Found a way to multiply Coinye and Doge earnings [Not telling ((yet))]

ocminer

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Quote from: kalus on January 12, 2014, 04:09:04 PM

Quote from: Nullu on January 12, 2014, 03:57:13 PM

Quote from: ocminer on January 12, 2014, 03:48:41 PM

There's a bug in some pool soft which counts INvalid shares as valid shares, since it's very easy to produce invalid shares and you are able to produce them at much higher speed, this is what he does.

the problem is, you're stealing from the other who mine in the pool as you're share rate is displays higher than it really this thus giving you more from the block than you deserve.

good pool ops see this immediately and ban you from the pool (freezing your earnings until then) and fix their pool soft so nobody can do this again.

I know what he's done, then. Changed the algo from scrypt, right? You can submit invalid shares very quickly by using a different algo.

great. that does nothing to benefit the currency at all, and doesn't represent any real-world improvement on hash rates.

If what you're saying is true, this merely takes advantage of a fault in some versions of existing software, and doesn't improve the hashrate of the physical hardware the way the OP implied it was.

guess where the currency comes from to fill this guy's wallet? From the other pool miners who paid hard earned money for their hardware.

If op is just showing off a software hack, he is a parasite telling us he's getting a free meal.

Just think over it..

There is no way of "tweaking" a 5770 to a 7970 :-)

Its simply an "exploit"..

It was used before on many, many pools, many people tried in on my pool too weeks ago.

The OP is just the first one who posted about it on bitcointalk.org

There is a issue ticket @ the stratum software from me already some time ago.

Maybe its good, so the other pool ops are forced to update their software.

kalus

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let's make a deal.

Quote from: Nullu on January 12, 2014, 03:57:13 PM

Quote from: ocminer on January 12, 2014, 03:48:41 PM

There's a bug in some pool soft which counts INvalid shares as valid shares, since it's very easy to produce invalid shares and you are able to produce them at much higher speed, this is what he does.

the problem is, you're stealing from the other who mine in the pool as you're share rate is displays higher than it really this thus giving you more from the block than you deserve.

good pool ops see this immediately and ban you from the pool (freezing your earnings until then) and fix their pool soft so nobody can do this again.

I know what he's done, then. Changed the algo from scrypt, right? You can submit invalid shares very quickly by using a different algo.

great. that does nothing to benefit the currency at all, and doesn't represent any real-world improvement on hash rates.

If what you're saying is true, this merely takes advantage of a fault in some versions of existing software, and doesn't improve the hashrate of the physical hardware the way the OP implied it was.

guess where the currency comes from to fill this guy's wallet? From the other pool miners who paid hard earned money for their hardware.

If op is just showing off a software hack, he is a parasite telling us he's getting a free meal.

lfgomez

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I'm not a real miner, I don't even have a AMD card or a Desktop PC, but I tested some tweaks for CPU miners on my notebook and got 10 to 15% increase in my hash power using AVX2 instructions.
Not very good for cpu, I know.. :-)

But I have an idea: If you can code your modification on cgminer, why don't you compile a version with your modification and a hardcoded mining pool for DOGE with your login and password. I mean, create a version that will only mine on your account, don't accept address, login and password input, and give the compiled file to people on the forum to test it. This way, your secret is mostly safe and you will be able to test this tweak on different GPUs.

I, my self, cannot test, unless this work fine for a mobile Nvidia card too, but I'm sure a lot of people will give a try.

Cheers,
Luis.

Nullu

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Quote from: ocminer on January 12, 2014, 03:48:41 PM

There's a bug in some pool soft which counts INvalid shares as valid shares, since it's very easy to produce invalid shares and you are able to produce them at much higher speed, this is what he does.

the problem is, you're stealing from the other who mine in the pool as you're share rate is displays higher than it really this thus giving you more from the block than you deserve.

good pool ops see this immediately and ban you from the pool (freezing your earnings until then) and fix their pool soft so nobody can do this again.

I know what he's done, then. Changed the algo from scrypt, right? You can submit invalid shares very quickly by using a different algo.

ocminer

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There's a bug in some pool soft which counts INvalid shares as valid shares, since it's very easy to produce invalid shares and you are able to produce them at much higher speed, this is what he does.

the problem is, you're stealing from the other who mine in the pool as you're share rate is displays higher than it really this thus giving you more from the block than you deserve.

good pool ops see this immediately and ban you from the pool (freezing your earnings until then) and fix their pool soft so nobody can do this again.

MadMatt

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My Nvidia registers all the numbers :/ my bad. If this turns out to work and someone DOES donate, whats stopping them from using what you told them to resell and so on? I'd just keep it to yourself and everyones happy

RB25

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BitSong is a decentralized music streaming platfor

Is it a hardware tweek or a software/code tweek?

Nullu

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Aren't you the same guy looking for charity donations?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/we-did-it-412035

Highly suspect.

cozk

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What the hell did i just read....

This thread went full retard.

Nullu

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Quote from: MadMatt on January 12, 2014, 03:17:04 PM

Why does it say 5700? Thought you had 5770's, driver issue?

Interesting catch, I'm not sure.. I'm running the latest Catalyst drivers, Afterburner also says 5700.. I guess it just means 5700 series. Mining software all sees Juniper which is the name of 5770s alone if I'm not mistaken.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150447

This is the exact card (2x), I looked up the 5750, those have a 720 core clock and 1150 memory stock. These are 850/1200.. 1 is overclocked a bit

I didn't exactly expect anybody to believe me, I mentioned it in an IRC chat and got laughed out the door. How exactly am I supposed to prove beyond a doubt that I'm not lying? There will always be some fatal flaw that leaves people thinking its a hoax.

For reference, I have a R9 280s, and Catalyst says 200. I have the latest stable drivers. I think the drivers are designed for a series, rather than a specific card. So it means 57xx, or 2xx, essentially.

Nothing to worry about.

AdamWhite

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I have a 1.5MH rig mining on middlecoin right now. If there was some way to split the earnings generated from the excess hashpower that would be win-win

AdamWhite

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Sorry to hear that. If I discovered a sure thing, I would scrape together everything I could to purchase older, less efficient mining gear and host the miners with friends and family. Best of luck in your endeavor

MadMatt

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Why does it say 5700? Thought you had 5770's, driver issue? Looked up that 5700's only get around ~100 khs. Seems kinda fishy now, you should have someone with good trust try it

AdamWhite

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essentially you're asking how to monetize software that was given to you for free... classy

Scratch

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Ive a 5770 mining. If you want I'll try whatever it is and corroborate your story. Not a hugely regular poster on here so obviously up to you whether you trust me or not.

MadMatt

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Could it be only usable for the 5770's? or does it have to do with the program / pool?

Bigeyeone

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well, if you must sell this secret, well, you should find a senior member with a good trust reputation that can verify your claim, that would go a long way if you want to convince others this is for real and this really works, you know kinda like the scientific peer review process

Bigeyeone

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if this is for real, which I highly doubt, what you should do then is buy as many GPU's as you can and dont tell anyone about it Wink

and if you must sell this secret, well, you should find a senior member with a good trust reputation that can verify your claim

SeriousCoins14

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Coinoholic

I need to look further into this, based on some friendly and some not so friendly input I may have stumbled on an unfair exploit. I'm not sharing an unfair exploit. Thats that for now.

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