Topic: France russia war soon (Read 101 times)

Major powers especially nuclear armed powers can only fight one another through proxy wars. If there is a war between France and Russia then it would be fought in Ukraine. The alternative would mean an end to both Russia and France and much of Europe along with it.

I think we should have seen enough already and pray for such not to happened again, for how long are we going to continue with the watching of how human beings are dying out of the curiosity of others trying to improve on their own developments, maybe some of us are just making such contributions because none of our members have ever been a victim of any of these war, we could have been able to relate well and understand better the reason to end all forms of war globally and let everyone leave it peace, because innocent souls are the ones paying most for all these.

My point about the USSR and Africa is that with the Internet, the nations of Africa can easily see what Russia was in the past. So, they wouldn't be kicking the US and France out, and inviting Russia in, if there wasn't some good that they found in Russia (or worse bad in the West). Your view of Russia (along with paxmao's) is skewed in a wrong direction, probably because of Stalin, and decades of false narratives about Russia being spread through the media.

You are reasonably logical in the things you say. Step back and look at the whole picture. ANY nation wants to advance. So, Russia and the United States both want to advance, too. But it's the US that is doing the exact things that you are ascribing to Russia. The difference is in the way that the US is doing them.

Russia did it by direct force through their arm called the USSR. Note that the Bolshevik Revolution was put in place by the US, and wealthy individuals from the US and Europe. These wealthy people wanted to steal Russia way back then, the same as their families want to do today. But people like Stalin stopped the US, even though Stalin was thoroughly wicked.

We can see from this that the US is doing the things that Stalin and the USSR wanted to do. But the US is sneaky about it. They don't do it the same way the USSR tried to do it, by direct force. It is to Russia's benefit to be a good benefactor to nations. It needs all the help it can get to fight the sneaky US, and the criminal US banking system, which is the problem against the whole world.

The US banking system won't formally take over and crush even the American people, until it is in a position of strength. But they are crushing even the American people, because this might be their last chance to crush Russia and take over the world. How are they crushing the American people? Through getting them to believe a false narrative about their own government (via the media and school propaganda training), and by causing the inflation that is wrecking individual families in the US.

The US has always been a method for wealthy families to use to conquer the world, right from its inception.

I am not in any way, shape or form suggesting the people from Africa is stupid. But it is a reality they were colonized and taken advantage of during decades or even centuries by colonial powers from the west.
Actually, it is not a phenomenon which is exclusive from the African continent, here in Latin America we have a very long history on how we had been colonized and exploited by the people from Europe, specially Spain and Portugal I did not mention it because we were talking about France and we cannot deny the participation of France in the colonization of Africa.

Also, I wonder what you mean exactly when you bring the former Soviet Union onto the table. Sure, the Soviet Union was a super power in the twentieth century with many good things, but it was also an authoritarian state which suppressed many of the civil liberties if their her citizens, to be point of being the prosecution of religions part of their government program. That is not the model of government which is supposed to be desired by the African people to their republics.

Considering your personal ideas, it is kind of strange you would mention the Soviet Union from a positive point of view, we are talking about a socialist republic, after all.

Your comment is a new angle to the rift between France and Russia, because this could be the underlying reason for these two giant countries faceoff. I know that France, is a democratic country, but most of the countries that they colonized are far from practicing true democracy, you'd see that most of these countries have one presidents that are ruling them for decades. People say that France, is the reason why this is, because they'll make sure that it's presidents that'll be loyal to them that'll be in power in those countries. People also say that Russia, has come to liberate these countries that France, has been taking all their natural resources, and this is why France is not happy with Russia.

Why are you picking on Africans like that? Do you think that they are all that stupid?

There are a lot of really smart things that have come out of Africa. And if you are referring to some of their mistakes, there are stupid people all over the world.

Do you think that with all their troubles with the West in the past, that they haven't figure out how to get on the Internet and learn what Russia was in the past... the USSR? Do you think that they haven't studied about Stalin?

I kinda like how cleverly you go about whatever it is that you are going about.

The context is important. France and other Western powers had historically treated Africa and the people from that continent in a very bad way, as land and merchandise which belonged directly to them to fulfill their own national purposes and boost their economies, in detriment of the quality of life of those who got colonized.
Those traces of colonization continued to be present even after those African republics regain their independence, in the form of industries and companies owned by France (in the case) which had almost a blank check to continue to exploit the natural resources of those territories. France needed the uranium of those African republics, to continue to grow energy independent.

Since Russia never had big colonies in Africa, the African people believe the Kremlin is different from the French, when in reality, Russia could have as many imperialistic aspirations as the French, or even more..

Probably one of the hidden reasons why there are bad relations between France and Russia, has to do with Africa calling Russia in and kicking France out - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=france+in+africa&ia=web.  Of course, the US is getting kicked out of Africa, too - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64006008.

First of all, according toresources like Loyce.club or BPIP, your main account Polo7 is banned:
https://loyce.club/profile.html?id=2640926
Now you're evading band and most likely your return won't be long.
Now back to the topic, in recent months it's notfirst topic about possible war between Russsia and France. But IMO, it's biggest nonsense for a while, I don't see any arguments why it could happen. If you would say that Russia can start war with Finland, Baltic states or Finland, it would sound more realistic.

Oh really, I always thought that Russia will be all over the Europe, from Moscow to Lisbon.

I don't think your prediction will come to reality op, and many countries has vow never to involve themselves in some things that will not bring good things to the country than to destroy what they have achieved before in the country, those countries that experience war before, they will never allow anything to cause war against them again than to apply wisdom to stop the war not to happen.

Since Russia are just recovering from the war they experience from Ukraine, I don't think Russian will have crisis with France because France government will teach Russia a lesson they will never forget and they will do things that will make Russia not to get involve in any war again.

Don't forget that the whole world know the truth of all those crisis that is causing war to some countries, and they know the country that is at fault which is the reason other countries will like to support the country that is not at fault in the war to ensure they over power the country at fault not to succeed their evil plan.

I personally believe it is kind of cynical to think this war could take such an escalation to the point even France will get directly involved against the Russian army. Implying such thing could have is directly suggesting all the countries between the east frontier of France and the west Frontier of Russia will be involved in the war, which is a very dire scenario.
Also, you are ignoring the fact France is a n active member of NATO, are we actually expecting to see not action from other member states if suddenly France was in a hot war against the Kremlin? It would be unreal.

Before discussing scenarios like this one which could obviously end up with the destruction of the whole European continent, it would be more productive to discuss the actual chances of a cease fire in the middle east and also some truce between Ukraine and Russia in the midterm. Though, that would be translated into handing over territories to the autocrats in the Kremlin.

It's just time question when they start war france want to win in order to be only power to produce electric cars and system and bring down all oil fuel industry.
It's gona be biggest fight Ever until to stale mate and agreement between russia and france.
Ukraine will be stay with west ...but probably finland will go to russian ownership.
USA don't disturb the USA will stay just watcher side

There is no redlines means " from the Paris to moscow it's all battleground"