Topic: ✔ Free 0.0005 BTC For First 10 Depositers | Bitflipper.io | Flip For Your Luck (Read 1467 times)

Quote from: eminentfox on May 16, 2017, 04:47:59 AM

Oh well, let's see when he is going to create a new topic (again) Cheesy

LOL, it can be very soon.
I'm wondering whether he has bad math about the house edge or he tried to fool people with wrong calculation?
Not a good example of gambling site owner who has just started his project.

Lol.your not the admin of this forum.so no one can stop me.
also your so rude to new sites publishers..
r.i.p

In this business people are rude all the time. It is up to you how you will react to unsubstantiated accusations and heavy criticism.
Grow a hard skin and don't try to be rude, it is the first rule of having good relations with your customers. They are always right.

There is way to check whether bet was provably fair or not, a way to peek under the hood?

Thanks Sir.

I Realised Now..
This is a Race Cheesy

dustboy

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It will gone sooner or later just like the previous similar site bitflippy and bitcoinflip because no one will deposit on this site. No offense but it is the reality, a gambling site with so bad behavior of the owner wont survive on this gambling industry.

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Quote from: randulahemal on May 19, 2017, 09:31:50 AM

Oh well, let's see when he is going to create a new topic (again) Cheesy

LOL, it can be very soon.
I'm wondering whether he has bad math about the house edge or he tried to fool people with wrong calculation?
Not a good example of gambling site owner who has just started his project.

Lol.your not the admin of this forum.so no one can stop me.
also your so rude to new sites publishers..
r.i.p

In this business people are rude all the time. It is up to you how you will react to unsubstantiated accusations and heavy criticism.
Grow a hard skin and don't try to be rude, it is the first rule of having good relations with your customers. They are always right.

There is way to check whether bet was provably fair or not, a way to peek under the hood?

masterzino

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Instant Withdrawals ?

Don't fall by this.
They still need to slow a proof of solvency. As per their 500mBTC max bet.
And even then, this is most likely a scam site, just waiting for you to bite with something like instant withdraws. Just read the opinions above.

randulahemal

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Instant Withdrawals ?

actmyname

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Spear the bees

Aside from everything else, would you like to show proof of funds? If your max bet is 500 mBTC, you must at least have several bitcoins in your bankroll, no?

At the very least, a signed message for a wallet would show some degree of solvency were a shark to appear on your site, betting away.

And I still don't understand why you're advertising a minimum deposit of 0.0001 mBTC when that is equivalent to 10 satoshi. There is no way that would be sent on the blockchain, never mind to your site. (And the promo wouldn't make sense if you were able to do that.)

Here's some friendly archives, too.

P1: https://archive.is/way54
P2: https://archive.is/koyT5

eminentfox

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bump

masterzino

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Quote from: adaseb on May 17, 2017, 02:55:46 AM

Someone should just red trust this guy and lock this thread.

If I recall correctly I think this is the same owner as that Bitflipy and Bitcoinflips scam sites. No idea why he keeps making new alts and coming back and thinking we all forgot about his scams.

Agree, yesterday he created (and locked/moved to trashcan by stuff) at least 3-4 of his spamming topics. He started with 75% on win, then 99%, then ...
This site is 1000% scam and nobody should trust a single satoshi there.

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Someone should just red trust this guy and lock this thread.

If I recall correctly I think this is the same owner as that Bitflipy and Bitcoinflips scam sites. No idea why he keeps making new alts and coming back and thinking we all forgot about his scams.

Bitinity

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Quote from: eminentfox on May 16, 2017, 04:47:59 AM

Oh well, let's see when he is going to create a new topic (again) Cheesy

LOL, it can be very soon.
I'm wondering whether he has bad math about the house edge or he tried to fool people with wrong calculation?
Not a good example of gambling site owner who has just started his project.

Lol.your not the admin of this forum.so no one can stop me.
also your so rude to new sites publishers..
r.i.p

You call a feedback as a rude? Look at how you reply to members here! You are so rude as well, and dont be wrong that no one can stop you. Forum has rules, if you violating the rules then moderator can stop you.

randulahemal

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Please Remove The Live Chat PoPup

moooonu

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Tried to visit your website but its not opening. Looks like its offlline atm.
Can anyone else access it atm?

eminentfox

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Quote from: actmyname on May 15, 2017, 09:52:47 PM

Oh well, let's see when he is going to create a new topic (again) Cheesy

LOL, it can be very soon.
I'm wondering whether he has bad math about the house edge or he tried to fool people with wrong calculation?
Not a good example of gambling site owner who has just started his project.

Lol.your not the admin of this forum.so no one can stop me.
also your so rude to new sites publishers..
r.i.p

eminentfox

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Quote from: ?? on ??

^ Yeah, this maths checks out. So you only have a 48.75% chance of winning (which is already worse than double or nothing bet on a dice site), but if you win you only get 1.99x

Since it's a coin-flip site, surely you should at least double your money if you win (especially as you're not given even odds...)

My issue is not necessarily the odds or the house edge but rather the owner's lack of care for the site. They change the site's payouts willy-nilly from a house edge to a player edge, to a greater player edge back to a house edge and use a site layout that's already been used in previous scams (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16971159)

Not only that but it seems a little odd that OP's post would say that the minimum deposit is 0.0001 mBTC. That's literally 0.00000010 BTC, or 10 satoshi.

With such a lack of degree of care in so many categories and a provably fair system that doesn't even work because the numbers can be manipulated (see quote below) there is no way that this isn't a scam, or extremely sketchy (worse than Betcoin.ag level) at best.

Quote from: actmyname on May 15, 2017, 06:50:03 PM

Despite the fact that you seem perfectly fine this time (house edge is consistent with the ev) the site itself is lacking in the provably fair section.

When you check your provably fair bit, it shows the server seed hash. All seems fine until you realize that the server seed hash corresponds to the previous bet. Which means that after you bet, you're given the server seed hash for the bet you just wagered. Which means that these bets can be manipulated.

Don't believe me? Try it yourself. Go into your provably fair section, copy down the hash. Then flip a coin, check your history and the seed section noticing that the bet you JUST played corresponds to a new hash: the one that's now updated and not the old one.

* quote taken from thread with same scripted game

Lol.so the site that u mentioned ; also script developer of bitflipper.
named overfeat.scam or legit depends on the administrator.

Bitinity

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Quote from: actmyname on May 15, 2017, 06:50:03 PM

Oh well, let's see when he is going to create a new topic (again) Cheesy

LOL, it can be very soon.
I'm wondering whether he has bad math about the house edge or he tried to fool people with wrong calculation?
Not a good example of gambling site owner who has just started his project.

actmyname

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Spear the bees

Quote from: ?? on ??

^ Yeah, this maths checks out. So you only have a 48.75% chance of winning (which is already worse than double or nothing bet on a dice site), but if you win you only get 1.99x

Since it's a coin-flip site, surely you should at least double your money if you win (especially as you're not given even odds...)

My issue is not necessarily the odds or the house edge but rather the owner's lack of care for the site. They change the site's payouts willy-nilly from a house edge to a player edge, to a greater player edge back to a house edge and use a site layout that's already been used in previous scams (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16971159)

Not only that but it seems a little odd that OP's post would say that the minimum deposit is 0.0001 mBTC. That's literally 0.00000010 BTC, or 10 satoshi.

With such a lack of degree of care in so many categories and a provably fair system that doesn't even work because the numbers can be manipulated (see quote below) there is no way that this isn't a scam, or extremely sketchy (worse than Betcoin.ag level) at best.

Despite the fact that you seem perfectly fine this time (house edge is consistent with the ev) the site itself is lacking in the provably fair section.

When you check your provably fair bit, it shows the server seed hash. All seems fine until you realize that the server seed hash corresponds to the previous bet. Which means that after you bet, you're given the server seed hash for the bet you just wagered. Which means that these bets can be manipulated.

Don't believe me? Try it yourself. Go into your provably fair section, copy down the hash. Then flip a coin, check your history and the seed section noticing that the bet you JUST played corresponds to a new hash: the one that's now updated and not the old one.

* quote taken from thread with same scripted game

eminentfox

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Quote from: piloder on May 15, 2017, 12:53:05 PM

Oh well, let's see when he is going to create a new topic (again) Cheesy

Maybe.....

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♥ ♠ PlayBitcoinGames ♦ ♣

Oh well, let's see when he is going to create a new topic (again) Cheesy

actmyname

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Spear the bees

Good job, you coward. Here's the archive of your old thread: https://archive.is/usoDP

And you still lie.

Here's the ev:

0.99 * (4999-126+1)/10000 + 5126/10000 * -1.00 = -0.030074

which is a 3.0074% house edge.

You falsely advertise your house edge AGAIN and you still continue to promote without any sense of mathematical computation.

eminentfox

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Don't know why i am getting this error but i am unable to open your site at the moment

Quote

This site can’t be reached

bitflipper.io’s server DNS address could not be found.

Try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN

100% Working Sir
Its Up Sir.
Sorry Bout it.
Was under maintenance For Leverage Chache

piloder

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Don't know why i am getting this error but i am unable to open your site at the moment

Quote

This site can’t be reached

bitflipper.io’s server DNS address could not be found.

Try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN

eminentfox

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Quote from: panjul07 on May 15, 2017, 12:42:29 PM

Quote from: eminentfox on May 15, 2017, 12:00:28 PM

Quote from: marlboroza on May 15, 2017, 11:44:44 AM

Quote from: eminentfox on May 15, 2017, 11:30:54 AM

Quote from: eminentfox on May 15, 2017, 12:00:28 PM

It shows how professional you are, deletes old thread and creates new one once there is negative feedback. Changing your game (the return percentage) many times, if I remember it correctly it was 75%, 110%, 97.5% etc and now it is 150%. I wonder how can a +EV game has house edge of 2.54%. Is this for real?

Yep Its Real.
so Check The Verifications.
Test The Site
And Tell Me The Status.
Do Not Feedback Without Testing it

He is actually right.

150% is multiplier 2.5X.
Players have advantage over you Grin

😂 Haha
when i Rise The Bet Return ; Negative
If i drop down the return : negative
Blah blah blah

You'll always get negative feedback if something sounds fishy on your sitem. Now you have just changed the bet return to 99%.
I would advise anyone to stay away from this site as the owner is not professional. He can change the bet return anytime as he wish without notice.
If you dont like to get negative feedback, dont open an ANN thread for your project here. Look at the other older trusted gambling sites, they still get negative feedback but they answered it with logic answer in professional way. Unlike you..
OK it is enough..no need to argue anymore.

Who Are You ?
I dont Care What You Say !
Do Not Ask Quetions .
I Know You Always Need to Drop Down Us.
so I Dont Care About You.
You Can Go Now
Bye

panjul07

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Quote from: marlboroza on May 15, 2017, 11:44:44 AM

Quote from: eminentfox on May 15, 2017, 11:30:54 AM

Quote from: marlboroza on May 15, 2017, 12:33:51 PM

It shows how professional you are, deletes old thread and creates new one once there is negative feedback. Changing your game (the return percentage) many times, if I remember it correctly it was 75%, 110%, 97.5% etc and now it is 150%. I wonder how can a +EV game has house edge of 2.54%. Is this for real?

Yep Its Real.
so Check The Verifications.
Test The Site
And Tell Me The Status.
Do Not Feedback Without Testing it

He is actually right.

150% is multiplier 2.5X.
Players have advantage over you Grin

😂 Haha
when i Rise The Bet Return ; Negative
If i drop down the return : negative
Blah blah blah

You'll always get negative feedback if something sounds fishy on your sitem. Now you have just changed the bet return to 99%.
I would advise anyone to stay away from this site as the owner is not professional. He can change the bet return anytime as he wish without notice.
If you dont like to get negative feedback, dont open an ANN thread for your project here. Look at the other older trusted gambling sites, they still get negative feedback but they answered it with logic answer in professional way. Unlike you..
OK it is enough..no need to argue anymore.

eminentfox

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Quote from: eminentfox on May 15, 2017, 12:17:14 PM

Quote from: marlboroza on May 15, 2017, 12:11:07 PM

Quote from: eminentfox on May 15, 2017, 12:00:28 PM

Quote from: marlboroza on May 15, 2017, 11:44:44 AM

Quote from: eminentfox on May 15, 2017, 11:30:54 AM

Quote from: eminentfox on May 15, 2017, 12:17:14 PM

It shows how professional you are, deletes old thread and creates new one once there is negative feedback. Changing your game (the return percentage) many times, if I remember it correctly it was 75%, 110%, 97.5% etc and now it is 150%. I wonder how can a +EV game has house edge of 2.54%. Is this for real?

Yep Its Real.
so Check The Verifications.
Test The Site
And Tell Me The Status.
Do Not Feedback Without Testing it

He is actually right.

150% is multiplier 2.5X.
Players have advantage over you Grin

😂 Haha
when i Rise The Bet Return ; Negative
If i drop down the return : negative
Blah blah blah

Try with provably fair system Wink

Webscript Made with That System sir.
With Random client seeds

Random client seed + random hash + random server seed = Random numbers? Interesting.

Yes Sir.
Also I Drop Downed The Bet Return to 99 %.
I not Expecting Much Profit from This.
Everyday i making over 0.5 BTC Profits With trading.
If there is a Mistake or any issue or aything..
Please Inform Me Sir.

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Quote from: marlboroza on May 15, 2017, 12:11:07 PM

Quote from: eminentfox on May 15, 2017, 12:00:28 PM

Quote from: marlboroza on May 15, 2017, 11:44:44 AM

Quote from: eminentfox on May 15, 2017, 11:30:54 AM

Quote from: marlboroza on May 15, 2017, 12:11:07 PM

It shows how professional you are, deletes old thread and creates new one once there is negative feedback. Changing your game (the return percentage) many times, if I remember it correctly it was 75%, 110%, 97.5% etc and now it is 150%. I wonder how can a +EV game has house edge of 2.54%. Is this for real?

Yep Its Real.
so Check The Verifications.
Test The Site
And Tell Me The Status.
Do Not Feedback Without Testing it

He is actually right.

150% is multiplier 2.5X.
Players have advantage over you Grin

😂 Haha
when i Rise The Bet Return ; Negative
If i drop down the return : negative
Blah blah blah

Try with provably fair system Wink

Webscript Made with That System sir.
With Random client seeds

Random client seed + random hash + random server seed = Random numbers? Interesting.

eminentfox

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Quote from: eminentfox on May 15, 2017, 12:00:28 PM

Quote from: marlboroza on May 15, 2017, 11:44:44 AM

Quote from: eminentfox on May 15, 2017, 11:30:54 AM

Quote from: eminentfox on May 15, 2017, 12:00:28 PM

It shows how professional you are, deletes old thread and creates new one once there is negative feedback. Changing your game (the return percentage) many times, if I remember it correctly it was 75%, 110%, 97.5% etc and now it is 150%. I wonder how can a +EV game has house edge of 2.54%. Is this for real?

Yep Its Real.
so Check The Verifications.
Test The Site
And Tell Me The Status.
Do Not Feedback Without Testing it

He is actually right.

150% is multiplier 2.5X.
Players have advantage over you Grin

😂 Haha
when i Rise The Bet Return ; Negative
If i drop down the return : negative
Blah blah blah

Try with provably fair system Wink

Webscript Made with That System sir.
With Random client seeds

marlboroza

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Quote from: marlboroza on May 15, 2017, 11:44:44 AM

Quote from: eminentfox on May 15, 2017, 11:30:54 AM

Quote from: marlboroza on May 15, 2017, 11:44:44 AM

It shows how professional you are, deletes old thread and creates new one once there is negative feedback. Changing your game (the return percentage) many times, if I remember it correctly it was 75%, 110%, 97.5% etc and now it is 150%. I wonder how can a +EV game has house edge of 2.54%. Is this for real?

Yep Its Real.
so Check The Verifications.
Test The Site
And Tell Me The Status.
Do Not Feedback Without Testing it

He is actually right.

150% is multiplier 2.5X.
Players have advantage over you Grin

😂 Haha
when i Rise The Bet Return ; Negative
If i drop down the return : negative
Blah blah blah

Try with provably fair system Wink

eminentfox

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Activity: 24

Merit: 0

Quote from: eminentfox on May 15, 2017, 11:30:54 AM

Quote from: eminentfox on May 15, 2017, 11:30:54 AM

It shows how professional you are, deletes old thread and creates new one once there is negative feedback. Changing your game (the return percentage) many times, if I remember it correctly it was 75%, 110%, 97.5% etc and now it is 150%. I wonder how can a +EV game has house edge of 2.54%. Is this for real?

Yep Its Real.
so Check The Verifications.
Test The Site
And Tell Me The Status.
Do Not Feedback Without Testing it

He is actually right.

150% is multiplier 2.5X.
Players have advantage over you Grin

😂 Haha
when i Rise The Bet Return ; Negative
If i drop down the return : negative
Blah blah blah

marlboroza

legendary

Activity: 1932

Merit: 2272

It shows how professional you are, deletes old thread and creates new one once there is negative feedback. Changing your game (the return percentage) many times, if I remember it correctly it was 75%, 110%, 97.5% etc and now it is 150%. I wonder how can a +EV game has house edge of 2.54%. Is this for real?

Yep Its Real.
so Check The Verifications.
Test The Site
And Tell Me The Status.
Do Not Feedback Without Testing it

He is actually right.

150% is multiplier 2.5X.
Players have advantage over you Grin

eminentfox

newbie

Activity: 24

Merit: 0

It shows how professional you are, deletes old thread and creates new one once there is negative feedback. Changing your game (the return percentage) many times, if I remember it correctly it was 75%, 110%, 97.5% etc and now it is 150%. I wonder how can a +EV game has house edge of 2.54%. Is this for real?