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You can't expect people to get fucked over and do nothing.

France has been peacefully protesting for decades. The consequences?

-We voted NO on EU referendum, government ignored the result and did it
-We demanded the non privatisation of a number of public companies, they did it
-We demanded the law deregulated the economy and they still did it, using a dictatorship tool known as Article 13 allowing government to do whatever they want

French governments was caught having a private black militia answering to no one, using weapons and having means of pressure on people representatives.

What do you want us to do? Stay calm in the house?

Well congratz that's what's happening. Movement is dying and less and less people care about. But the real solution would be to go to paris and get rid of our government while we still can...

Now that a nationalist force is rioting

Can you please stop saying shit? This movement is completely apolitical and it must stay so. There are communists, monarchists, anarchists, liberals, conservatives, nationalists... All working together to get those fuckers down. Don't bring in some kind of "it's the left" or "it's the right". It's useless and tends to divide fighters when they finally managed to find some common grounds.



I was in the protests and I think it's beautiful when you get a blackblock (strong left) protecting a monarchist while the communist cohalition is fighting of a police charge.
Don't bring division in this. Let the movement remain a symbol of unity for the French people.


HAHAHAHA a political. That's fucking hilarious. Fucking French people always wanting it both ways. I am not dividing anything, you are. The fact is this was a direct response to socialist policies, regardless if any of the dumb commies there understand it. I was noting how people treat an actual movement initiated by the right, they treat every little thing they do much different than as to say if the left went and burned dozens of cars down and assaulted people. There always seems to be excuses for leftist violence. Suddenly now with the yellow vests everyone is dithering over issues they never cared about before. Also, this is way bigger than France, so cool your baguettes with your possessive talk as if it is only France.
legendary
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You can't expect people to get fucked over and do nothing.

France has been peacefully protesting for decades. The consequences?

-We voted NO on EU referendum, government ignored the result and did it
-We demanded the non privatisation of a number of public companies, they did it
-We demanded the law deregulated the economy and they still did it, using a dictatorship tool known as Article 13 allowing government to do whatever they want

French governments was caught having a private black militia answering to no one, using weapons and having means of pressure on people representatives.

What do you want us to do? Stay calm in the house?

Well congratz that's what's happening. Movement is dying and less and less people care about. But the real solution would be to go to paris and get rid of our government while we still can...

Now that a nationalist force is rioting

Can you please stop saying shit? This movement is completely apolitical and it must stay so. There are communists, monarchists, anarchists, liberals, conservatives, nationalists... All working together to get those fuckers down. Don't bring in some kind of "it's the left" or "it's the right". It's useless and tends to divide fighters when they finally managed to find some common grounds.



I was in the protests and I think it's beautiful when you get a blackblock (strong left) protecting a monarchist while the communist cohalition is fighting of a police charge.
Don't bring division in this. Let the movement remain a symbol of unity for the French people.
legendary
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How were the IRS and the USSS ( Oklahoma bombing) buildings rebuilt?
With tax insurance money. With what money where the injured treated and the relatives of the dead compensated? tax insurance money!!
FTFY
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Im with stompix on this, i dont agree with damaging private property.
There will always be those who hang on to the end of a protest in
Order to cause damage for the fun or for self gain in the case of
looting.

I also understand that if your message through peaceful protest is
not going anywhere it can be frustrating and things can escalate
and one thing leads to another.

uhm well private property can be immaterial, that can be quite, a lot,

creation of bitcoin and doing an attention hack away from central banks could then also be considered damge to private property.

legendary
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Funny how no one had this moral dilemma over rioting when the people doing it were on the left and or some kind of minority. Now that a nationalist force is rioting everyone is a philosopher over whether it is right or wrong. Get off it. None of you give a fuck, you just think what you are told to think by the glowing idiot box in the corner.
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What has freedom of speech to do with burning the cars of people who just happened to park in the area where you want to exercise your "freedom"? What was the fault of the business owners who had their stores trashed, windows smashed or even set on fire?

People would really start o understand that your rights end where my rights begin.

When the french revolution part 2 begins they can switch to a new block chain economy based on bitcoin and perhaps some type of french petro coin. The government will learn they can't control the people if they use bitcoin

You know probably that the "petro" scam coin is a centralized coin controlled by Maduro and his cronies, right?

i clearly made long time ago in this forum the prediction that the banking cartels in the west and their "government gimmicks" will now evlolve towards communist and national socialist regime


I always find it funny how westerners are talking about the EU going towards communist. And this coming from a german who was lucky to be born 200km west is even funnier. You guys have really no idea what communism means.



Im with stompix on this, i dont agree with damaging private property.
There will always be those who hang on to the end of a protest in
Order to cause damage for the fun or for self gain in the case of
looting.

I also understand that if your message through peaceful protest is
not going anywhere it can be frustrating and things can escalate
and one thing leads to another.
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So many stories coming out of France about what is going on in the regions who have these protests going on.
One says they will be instating martial law so to take guns out of the hands of the people.
Another says there is a plan for a large group of rich parisians to withdraw all their money from institutional banks all at the same time just to prove these banks do not have enough money to produce the funds when called upon to do so.
Most if not all people already know banks perform on a quarter of what is on paper in the first place so in doing this they will literally bankrupt Frances financial system and cause havoc to the European union with brexit already on the horizon.
I would imagine this would be their intended plan all along with an organized run on the banks.

Sort of a domino effect of the European union's economical system.


struggle of french population abused by bitcoincultists for marketing

just disgusting.
The picture was taken sometime of december the 4th so all the talk of bitcoin being the countries saving grace was not fully in the line of focus.
But it is showing the people not in the country they are looking towards other ways to put this conflict at peace.
And if it is bitcoin then so be it.

bitcoin is no ones saving grace, except of the bitcoin miners, the bitcoin premine holders and bitcoin holders,

because all french humanist institutions can create their own cryptos, much less energywasting and you can also "invest" in them
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So many stories coming out of France about what is going on in the regions who have these protests going on.
One says they will be instating martial law so to take guns out of the hands of the people.
Another says there is a plan for a large group of rich parisians to withdraw all their money from institutional banks all at the same time just to prove these banks do not have enough money to produce the funds when called upon to do so.
Most if not all people already know banks perform on a quarter of what is on paper in the first place so in doing this they will literally bankrupt Frances financial system and cause havoc to the European union with brexit already on the horizon.
I would imagine this would be their intended plan all along with an organized run on the banks.

Sort of a domino effect of the European union's economical system.


struggle of french population abused by bitcoincultists for marketing

just disgusting.
The picture was taken sometime of december the 4th so all the talk of bitcoin being the countries saving grace was not fully in the line of focus.
But it is showing the people not in the country they are looking towards other ways to put this conflict at peace.
And if it is bitcoin then so be it.
sr. member
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So many stories coming out of France about what is going on in the regions who have these protests going on.
One says they will be instating martial law so to take guns out of the hands of the people.
Another says there is a plan for a large group of rich parisians to withdraw all their money from institutional banks all at the same time just to prove these banks do not have enough money to produce the funds when called upon to do so.
Most if not all people already know banks perform on a quarter of what is on paper in the first place so in doing this they will literally bankrupt Frances financial system and cause havoc to the European union with brexit already on the horizon.
I would imagine this would be their intended plan all along with an organized run on the banks.

Sort of a domino effect of the European union's economical system.


struggle of french population abused by bitcoincultists for marketing

just disgusting.
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Hear, hear.  It's always occurred to me that rioters (and even terrorists) always pick the wrong targets.  *Disclaimer: I don't support terrorism.*  But that guy who flew his plane into an IRS building?  He knew what he was doing.  The 9/11 terrorists?  They at least hit the Pentagon.  What I'm saying is that the gripes are almost completely with government institutions and the judicial system (like the Rodney King riots, etc.), but the rioters don't end up storming a courthouse; they break into shops and loot stuff.  It makes total sense if you're a cynic like me who thinks that greed drives most people's behavior, but rioting doesn't accomplish much for whatever the cause is except for media attention.  Terrorism accomplishes a lot, but not in a good way for anyone.


Leaving aside terrorists...all the latest protest I've seen are more anarchist orientated than actually demanding anything.

How were the IRS and the USSS ( Oklahoma bombing) buildings rebuilt?
With tax money. With what money where the injured treated and the relatives of the dead compensated? Tax money!!

I remember some funny footage from the Romanian protest two years ago, people almost trampling each other in the subway, blocking the entire central square in Bucharest, protesting peacefully against the government while the government building was....empty and all those officials where at home enjoying their dinner while thousands had to spend hours in traffic to get home after real work.

The whole stuff again with the BLM movement, most of the stuff they destroyed was in their own neighborhood, not like any of the "culprits" let's say as I am no fan of BLM was even bothered by it. Greek protest, setting aflame the only surviving shops in the center of Athens and sending more people to the unemployment office? And the French excel at hurting the average Joe with their protest, every damn year farmers block roads and disrupt traffic punishing their own customers while the government officials fly with their helicopters avoiding them all.

After all, what do those "yellow bests" even want? Oh, money! It doesn't matter how but we want money.
Wanting more money while disrupting the economy and causing billions in losses doesn't seem like a bright plan to me...but who knows....

In the end, everyone can protest if they want to, but for god sake don't act like football fans trashing their own favorite pub because their team has lost.


jes i have quite an understanding how live is in communism, and i know what drives demand for communism, its urban population that wants supply of consumption capacities from outside their urban environment, thats a reason among others.

"Quite" is an overstatement. Back to the drawing board Tongue



enough to predict communism/nationalsocialism in western europe. doesnt matter if a cryptoindexmafia, like coinmarketcap and bitcoiners will hover above them.
legendary
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Hear, hear.  It's always occurred to me that rioters (and even terrorists) always pick the wrong targets.  *Disclaimer: I don't support terrorism.*  But that guy who flew his plane into an IRS building?  He knew what he was doing.  The 9/11 terrorists?  They at least hit the Pentagon.  What I'm saying is that the gripes are almost completely with government institutions and the judicial system (like the Rodney King riots, etc.), but the rioters don't end up storming a courthouse; they break into shops and loot stuff.  It makes total sense if you're a cynic like me who thinks that greed drives most people's behavior, but rioting doesn't accomplish much for whatever the cause is except for media attention.  Terrorism accomplishes a lot, but not in a good way for anyone.


Leaving aside terrorists...all the latest protest I've seen are more anarchist orientated than actually demanding anything.

How were the IRS and the USSS ( Oklahoma bombing) buildings rebuilt?
With tax money. With what money where the injured treated and the relatives of the dead compensated? Tax money!!

I remember some funny footage from the Romanian protest two years ago, people almost trampling each other in the subway, blocking the entire central square in Bucharest, protesting peacefully against the government while the government building was....empty and all those officials where at home enjoying their dinner while thousands had to spend hours in traffic to get home after real work.

The whole stuff again with the BLM movement, most of the stuff they destroyed was in their own neighborhood, not like any of the "culprits" let's say as I am no fan of BLM was even bothered by it. Greek protest, setting aflame the only surviving shops in the center of Athens and sending more people to the unemployment office? And the French excel at hurting the average Joe with their protest, every damn year farmers block roads and disrupt traffic punishing their own customers while the government officials fly with their helicopters avoiding them all.

After all, what do those "yellow bests" even want? Oh, money! It doesn't matter how but we want money.
Wanting more money while disrupting the economy and causing billions in losses doesn't seem like a bright plan to me...but who knows....

In the end, everyone can protest if they want to, but for god sake don't act like football fans trashing their own favorite pub because their team has lost.

So many stories coming out of France about what is going on in the regions who have these protests going on.
One says they will be instating martial law so to take guns out of the hands of the people.

Hmm,  France has some really small gun ownership numbers, even by EU standards.
I really don't see the French population (or any in the actual EU) taking arms and storming the Bastille again.

jes i have quite an understanding how live is in communism, and i know what drives demand for communism, its urban population that wants supply of consumption capacities from outside their urban environment, thats a reason among others.

"Quite" is an overstatement. Back to the drawing board Tongue

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lol i was born in siberia near a city called barnaul, thats pretty much the centre of communist sovietunion.
I am 33 years old university graduated real estate economist and engineer and former industrial mechanic, I am from Germany i understand legal environements i can help move some out. freeing you from economic imprisonment of a regional/lingual or homoerotic Banking cartel....


So you were born in 86 and you have extensive knowledge about it although it fell in 89....
And you are from barnaul, siberia, soviet union, germany....

How about you stop with the lies?

lol,
nope i am not lieing, how about you start thinking.

a huge percentage of citizens in western countries werent born there.

jes i have quite an understanding how live is in communism, and i know what drives demand for communism, its urban population that wants supply of consumption capacities from outside their urban environment, thats a reason among others.
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lol i was born in siberia near a city called barnaul, thats pretty much the centre of communist sovietunion.
I am 33 years old university graduated real estate economist and engineer and former industrial mechanic, I am from Germany i understand legal environements i can help move some out. freeing you from economic imprisonment of a regional/lingual or homoerotic Banking cartel....


So you were born in 86 and you have extensive knowledge about it although it fell in 89....
And you are from barnaul, siberia, soviet union, germany....

How about you stop with the lies?
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freedom in france means the freedom to be abused as money earning cattle by the french banking cartel, thats why the french are protesting
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What has freedom of speech to do with burning the cars of people who just happened to park in the area where you want to exercise your "freedom"? What was the fault of the business owners who had their stores trashed, windows smashed or even set on fire?

Hear, hear.  It's always occurred to me that rioters (and even terrorists) always pick the wrong targets.  *Disclaimer: I don't support terrorism.*  But that guy who flew his plane into an IRS building?  He knew what he was doing.  The 9/11 terrorists?  They at least hit the Pentagon.  What I'm saying is that the gripes are almost completely with government institutions and the judicial system (like the Rodney King riots, etc.), but the rioters don't end up storming a courthouse; they break into shops and loot stuff.  It makes total sense if you're a cynic like me who thinks that greed drives most people's behavior, but rioting doesn't accomplish much for whatever the cause is except for media attention.  Terrorism accomplishes a lot, but not in a good way for anyone.

It's astounding how much unrest there is in the world today.  2019 is nothing like how I remember the early days of my life or even when I got out of college.  I'm just hoping something good comes from all of this and doesn't lead to armageddon.

Another says there is a plan for a large group of rich parisians to withdraw all their money from institutional banks all at the same time just to prove these banks do not have enough money to produce the funds when called upon to do so.
Now that's what I'm talking about as far as targeting the right institutions.
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When the french revolution part 2 begins they can switch to a new block chain economy based on bitcoin and perhaps some type of french petro coin. The government will learn they can't control the people if they use bitcoin

I like this brand of crazy. i hope you do a line of snazzy t-shirts.

ps. have a look at the 'binance in Zimbabwe' story and get back to me how bitcoin will protect us from "government"  Grin

https://news.bitcoin.com/one-month-on-still-no-access-for-thousands-of-binance-users-controversially-cut-off-by-the-exchange/
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So many stories coming out of France about what is going on in the regions who have these protests going on.
One says they will be instating martial law so to take guns out of the hands of the people.
Another says there is a plan for a large group of rich parisians to withdraw all their money from institutional banks all at the same time just to prove these banks do not have enough money to produce the funds when called upon to do so.
Most if not all people already know banks perform on a quarter of what is on paper in the first place so in doing this they will literally bankrupt Frances financial system and cause havoc to the European union with brexit already on the horizon.
I would imagine this would be their intended plan all along with an organized run on the banks.

Sort of a domino effect of the European union's economical system.
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Peaceful protests is a human right and anyone should be able to exercise that, but when it becomes a movement which is hijacked and made to spread the panic then the government has a decision to make.
People would really start o understand that your rights end where my rights begin.

I couldn't agree more with this statement.


french government is just a money printing banking cartel
run by a secret society (freemasons)
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Peaceful protests is a human right and anyone should be able to exercise that, but when it becomes a movement which is hijacked and made to spread the panic then the government has a decision to make.
People would really start o understand that your rights end where my rights begin.

I couldn't agree more with this statement.
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i clearly made long time ago in this forum the prediction that the banking cartels in the west and their "government gimmicks" will now evlolve towards communist and national socialist regime

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I always find it funny how westerners are talking about the EU going towards communist. And this coming from a german who was lucky to be born 200km west is even funnier. You guys have really no idea what communism means.




lol i was born in siberia near a city called barnaul, thats pretty much the centre of communist sovietunion.

legendary
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What has freedom of speech to do with burning the cars of people who just happened to park in the area where you want to exercise your "freedom"? What was the fault of the business owners who had their stores trashed, windows smashed or even set on fire?

People would really start o understand that your rights end where my rights begin.

When the french revolution part 2 begins they can switch to a new block chain economy based on bitcoin and perhaps some type of french petro coin. The government will learn they can't control the people if they use bitcoin

You know probably that the "petro" scam coin is a centralized coin controlled by Maduro and his cronies, right?

i clearly made long time ago in this forum the prediction that the banking cartels in the west and their "government gimmicks" will now evlolve towards communist and national socialist regime


I always find it funny how westerners are talking about the EU going towards communist. And this coming from a german who was lucky to be born 200km west is even funnier. You guys have really no idea what communism means.

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When the french revolution part 2 begins they can switch to a new block chain economy based on bitcoin and perhaps some type of french petro coin. The government will learn they can't control the people if they use bitcoin

jes and the people then will be happy to be enslaved by the bitcoin indexmafia. that tells them what a shitcoin is and what not.
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i clearly made long time ago in this forum the prediction that the banking cartels in the west and their "government gimmicks" will now evlolve towards communist and national socialist regime
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When the french revolution part 2 begins they can switch to a new block chain economy based on bitcoin and perhaps some type of french petro coin. The government will learn they can't control the people if they use bitcoin
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violent protests are different than peaceful protests.

its the difference between the d-day landing...... vs woodstock Cheesy

i fully understand that wanting to voice opinion should be allowed. i voice my opinion alot even when some others try to insult me hoping ill shut up because i am raising concerns about the buddies they want to protect.

but we have got to a point where protests are just loud opinions. and nothing more.
and when opinions and voices get ignored. some resort to vocal nd physical attack.

what people who want not just free speach but also political change. is to actually stop organising to just stand in a field/road with wooden signs. but instead with bits of paper that say to their local government representative

"if you do not address our concerns we will not vote for you again"

knowing in each area/zone/district there are only X amount of voters. a representative suddenly getting a couple thousand notes warning if he ignores a certain thing he wont get votes. is much more pressure than shouting down a street

so if you are a peaceful protestor and feel you voice is not being heard. dont double down by using violence instead try a different method of free speach(communication) while still peacefully protesting
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