Topic: frodocooper nolonger a mod, what could have happened? (Read 765 times)

     Theymos has yet to contact me with a yes or a no.


     I do see my long term "Frenemy" says nay. Maybe he is right we would fight and I would delete every post he ever made which would not be so good on my part.

 After all when my wife was sick from covid-19.  I did get angry and delete an entire thread of about 800 posts. As a protest to the 2020 April fools joke about covid-19.
Although the thread I deleted  was locked for years and of no value other than historical matters.


Very likely it could be too much drama which is why theymos has passed.

  BTW after 17 months and 120,000 worth of medical bills my wife pretty much has recovered.
Note we have medical insurance so we paid 8,000 of that 120,000
The damage covid-19 did to me is not gone but has improved> I am still seeing a doctor for treatment. Hoping to avoid surgery.

  Letting personal problems interfere with judgement may not be the best thing to do.
And I do have the policy on my modded threads of deleting "fuck you blow me bitch style of posts". Which some may not like.

Firstly the obvious, no I'd never want to be mod.

I've disagreements with some of those listed - and to be blunt those disagreements relate to the issues I had with Frodo.

Phil went on a rampage last year deleting posts due to not liking the April fool joke.
Definitely sounds like someone who shouldn't be a mod.

I sent a request to theymos

with cc's to

gmaxwell
mprep
philipma1957

We will see what comes of it.

Okay 👍 I will shoot a pm to theymos and see what happens.

I'm not super active in moderating there-- I process reports when they come in, but these days I'm not an active enough reader to be highly effective.  It would be useful to have an additional moderator who is active in the subforum.

I don't feel overloaded by report volume, -- though there are a lot of scamcoin mining posts-- but it's always good to have moderators that are regularly reading most of the threads in their subforums and currently I am not.

I will draft a pm to theymos and link this thread to him.

I would create some kind of give away with my 1st year's salary as a mod.

edit :

I would first talk to current mod of btc and alt section's

gMaxwell does btc mining

mPrep does  alt coin mining

as they may want the work and I do not want to take the work from them.


edit:
I will get back to this thread later on this weekend.

Since the community has come to a consensus regarding your candidacy for this position, and the fact that you have the time and desire for this, then maybe you should notify Theymos? Or at least send him a link to this thread ... so we at least find out what he thinks about it (I would not like this discussion to be deadlocked).

Just like some other members, I am as well backing you as a suitable candidate for the Job.

You are an old members of the community and yet you have been so helpful to members seeking help from both the bitcoin and altcoin mining sections. You replies really show that you are a hands on person and you have a vast amount of experience that you are willing to share.

I am not an active miner, but i have learnt somethings about mining just from reading your posts and replies.

Just as a FYI, the payments the mods receive are probably not going to be sufficient to earn any substantial amount of income by US standards. Most mods make a few hundred dollars per month. Mr Big made about $2500 last month, Xal0lex made about $1100, mprep made about $2200, but everyone else made less than a thousand, with most making less than $500, and some making less than $100.

Thanks I appreciate the vote of confidence.

As I said I would be willing to do some mod work.

I am 64 and getting in a car to drive 70 miles to the mine spending 3 hours in 100f temps to maintain the gear and driving back the 70 miles at the end of the day is getting  bit old.

I am a hands on guy but I am a bit tired of the mining grind.

Modding a section would be less physical work for me.

You are an obvious candidate and I think you would make a great addition to the section as a moderator. If frodocooper won’t be returning I can see you being a worthy replacement. You certainly have the crypto mining knowledge and have shown to maintain a high activity level over a long period of time.

I don't think he is a mod of the Dutch board currently. Theymos confirmed this to me when I brought up what I thought was a bug in his displayed title when being both a "mod" (actually a staff member), and a Copper Membership when I noticed he had moved another user's thread and left a redirect.

Well i would do the section or both or none.

Whatever theymos wants.

Note I am on the road thus I use this account. Not the main one.
I have zero problem about kyc if kyc is needed.
I simply did not know frodo's departure was going to happen.

While I sometimes did not like frodo's handling of some of my posts he worked hard at the job.

As to the alt coin mining thread and or the btc mining thread it can be difficult deciding what should go where.

Spam is another story it should go bye bye.

Yes, they will get payments but their payments will be decided by levels of things they handle on the forum.

The last financial report from theymos is in December 2017.

In addition to being recommended here, do you think you should go through the registration process to be able to take up the job? I've never seen someone apply to be a mod of a section, I'm curious if it's really the next one. I'm curious if it actually works out in a way I don't know yet, I don't think theymos will pm and ask if someone wants to take this job, he will?

I was not offered the job.

Maybe I would have taken it.

I would not mind modding

the alt coin mining section or the btc coin mining section.

Do not know what it pays or if it pays but it would be okay by me to do either one.

Oh, he was active, trust me! Check the editing details on the posts here: 
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5307087


Exactly the same feeling, in the past you knew that useless topic will get trashed immediately, you knew you won't have endless useless topics around discussing basically nothing. My first impression when I saw all those topics starting to fill the mining speculation was that Frodo was on vacation, I even wanted to post that as a warning to the OP, but when checking when he was last around I had a pretty bad surprise.

I do hope nothing bad has happened to him, and if left because of personal reasons, personal stuff should be kept personal.

Patrollers are indeed Staff on all boards. I just asked Theymos to change my rank to Copper Member.

I'm not convinced yet: Mitchell hasn't been a Mod (on the Dutch board) for quite a while.

There are also patrollers. I think they're called "Staff" on all boards.

I sadly believe the same, seeing how passionate he was about moderating the mining boards, it's very unlikely that he would leave for no reason, he has always been criticized by many members before and he probably grew a very thick skin so I don't think someone pissed him off and got him to leave, one thing to notice is that frod is from (and probably lives) in one of the countries that had a new recent pandemic wave and the positive cases have been skyrocketing there for weeks now, I hope he is safe and healthy because that's all that matters.

With that being said, I hope nobody does more digging on him, if he is well and happy to be away from the forum, leave him be.

this compliment seems to be something he's proud of, but I'm afraid it can also lead to a sad story  With a positive and responsible person as you describe, is it possible for him to quit his job without any reason? I think NO, the worst thing now is that maybe he has encountered some problem, maybe illness, accident, ... this world is really mysterious, (Or he's been taken by aliens  ). Just kidding, whatever the reason, I believe something pretty bad happened with him...

I was aware of this almost a few hours after he was removed, I only noticed this topic after ChuckBuck mentioned my name.



While I do disagree with a few things frod used to do, I am certain that the mining board was a lot better when he was around.

I am one of the most active members in the section, I watch every child board in it every day even when I don't post. When frod was around the amount of spam was close to zero, we hardly had the time to report any post as he was actively removing spam around the clock, he even did a great job in arranging different topics in their appropriate child board, that task alone is a lot of work.

Since he left, the amount of spam went up, not by a lot simply for two reasons.

1- Most spammers probably are not aware of the fact that he left.
2- He left at the bearish/no so spam friendly time.

I am pretty sure that when BTC hits new ATH and mining become very attractive again, the mining board will have to deal with a lot of spam, I report a few posts every day since he left which I didn't have to because he took care of it all.

Another thing I noticed after he left is that many topics are put in the wrong child board, the child boards can be very confusing to most new members, even to old members who are not active in the mining board, as for now, I am so glad that whoever handles our reports actually agrees to move topics to where we ask them to, although, I am pretty sure most mods won't understand why do we request moving a topic from board A to board B, it's like a general consensus that was build between the members of that section, so I do hope the mods keep moving topics to their appropriate child boards based on the community requests to keep things as neat as possible.

With that being said,I don't think we need a new mod, for now, we just need the miners' community to start utilizing the reports more and more, it's a habit we need to develop now since we didn't really have to when frod was around, i am positive the mining community will overcome this and continue to be the most anti-spam section in this forum.

Frod, despite all the arguments I had with you, you did a great job and you shall be remembered. Thank you

This is too bad to hear.  I think frodocooper was a little heavy handed with the moderation, but you could tell that he was doing a great job at keeping the section clean.  I'm sure he probably stepped down once he started receiving heavy criticism on this board as that is what most people do, and I think that's a loss to us all.

Come back frodocooper!  I'm sorry for adding to the criticism.  We need longtime members like yourself who obviously care about this place to stick around.  I would take overmoderation of my threads before letting the trolls loose like has been the policy on the rest of this forum (as long as they don't mention a Bitcoin fork).  I hope the mining section doesn't become a new home for trolls.  There are less and less places here where one can engage in productive discussion and this is another big hit to the forum.

oh ho  Nice to hear this from an insider like you. So that means only when there are certain events or tasks, you get paid for it. Since covid 19 spread all over the world, there have been quite a few mysterious disappearances on this forum 
lol, no fixed salary, but rewarded for the work, that's how I can understand
I used to think that Staff and Mod are 2 different positions  this information is really interesting 

yup, I also think that global mod has more perks in different section than regular mod

That is not always true. If they are wearing a Copper Membership, they will be labeled as a copper member. For example, see when mitchell posts.

I'm not sure of the exact boundaries of their roles and there's not much information available. I believe mods are restricted to their boards, while staffs can function on various boards just like global mods, except global mods have some extra privileges such as restoring posts moved to trash can.

I believe they do.

Mods are labeled Staff when they post outside their own board.

I am happy to see frodocooper finally demoded because he was to restrictive with editing posts from every members who posted in mining section.
That does not mean I am against moderation but changing my own words, restructuring them, changing size of my images to miniature size is not cool.
I wish you all the best frodo, I hope you enjoy your retirement in Shire, and maybe some better member will jump in to replace you.

Sorry to ask 

What exactly are the roles that staff members do, that are different from those mods do?
Do staff members get paid?

No, not really. Mods are more like volunteers who are rewarded with BTC for doing certain tasks. Theymos doesn't send us salary sheets every month (although there is some little administrative paperwork at the beginning)
And frodocooper didn't make a post about his leaving in the Staff section, like you I learned it in this topic.

It's probably a bit late for me to touch on this topic, but I'm a little curious, people often disappear on this forum and leave no reason behind, so even for a mod, yes Who really knows who he is and what he's been through?
I used to think that mods are employees of this forum and they get paid for their work, dont they?

Also, if nominated, why does no one choose mikeywith, he's also an excellent guy...

Don't be so sure about that. I remember that philipma1957 was one of the members who complained in the past that some of his posts and threads were being deleted in the mining sub. If he was offered or applied to be the mod of the mining section, he might accept to show a more lenient approach and don't go straight to post deletion. 

I also think philipma1957 would be a great candidate but he will probably decline. Wouldn't it be better to know who would be willing to do the job? And more so in that section, if many are miners, I don't know if what they will be paid for moderating will motivate them.

He was replying to PMs as recently as February so obviously post count means nothing but don't let that get in the way of your shitposting.

I think no way now if no data was scrapped.

The forum's Search for members with the option Search by position (using Staff as keyword) can help if there are data scrappers do their scrapping regularly.

I am not sure there is anyone does this.

He made one post last month and the last post he made prior to that was in October 2020. My guess is that he has been similarly inactive during that time. He may have responded to some reports during that time if he was still a mod, but has probably not been particularly active as a moderator.

He might have resigned due to the lack of time, but he was probably removed due to inactivity regardless if he asked to be removed or not (the underlying root cause).

He also only made 14 posts in 2020, if that gives additional information.

I just checked the activity in this section for the last few years and for the last year, apparently, philipma1957 candidacy is the most suitable for the position of moderator, (not to mention the quality of the content and its loyalty). Although for some reason it seems to me that even if he is offered this position, he will refuse ...



If someone wants to propose another candidate for this position, then we can arrange a vote similar to the election of a global mod, (although theymos appointed a different person anyway).

Frodocooper was last active just over a month ago--does anyone know when he was removed as a moderator?  I don't know of a way to check that.

In any case, since this is the internet it's not unexpected for people to come and go from a discussion forum for various reasons, even if they're a moderator on one.  I wouldn't jump to the worst case scenario (not that you're doing that, OP) for any member who takes a break or just disappears for good from a site they were active on. 

Suchmoon, I'm with you as far as hoping the mining section gets a strict mod.  That section was perhaps too strictly moderated, and sometimes I felt like I was going to get my post deleted if I didn't come off as an expert (which I am most assuredly not).  Keeping a section free from garbage posts is one thing; setting a bar to posting in it that's extremely high is another, and IMO the bar was perhaps a little too high.

I wouldn't want to speculate on "why" but I do hope that someone similarly strict will be appointed in frodo's place. Despite some complaints, those boards are a pleasure to read compared to the rest of Bitcointalk and we do need at least some part of the forum to remain like that.

For a community dedicated to a project where privacy is considered an important feature, people sure do speculate about other people's personal circumstances a lot.   

I tend to take that stance that they'll tell us if they want to.  But if that doesn't happen, then it's none of our business.

Today I just noticed that frodocooper is not a moderator anymore.

frodocooper was one of the mods who had zero tolerance for spam in the mining board though some people complained about the board being over moderated which I can understand but I think his contribution was a net positive.

Why do you think he was removed?
Inactivity?
Personal request?