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Topic: From a biblical view how does god deem Bitcoin? (Read 1858 times)

legendary
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December 29, 2016, 07:26:24 PM
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BTC belongs to caesar.
legendary
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Quote from: af_newbie link=topic=1695833.msg17300776#msg17300776

This is nonsense, please ignore it.  The guy is on medication.  I apologise for his post.  He is not well.


I have spent a couple of hours reading through the religious threads and some of the beddeckers replies, and he has showed himself in a completely different light than I thought he was from this post and reply links

However, as a thinking being, I tried to weed out the useful information from the bullshit
And my beliefs are still a bit rocked

I have not thought that there could be something that started the big bang and created order, I mean I did.. But not in this way, and the machine like stuff got to me a bit too Cheesy

How do you know he is on medication?

Just a hunch.  Sometimes his replies are coherent.  But when he is cornered or his medication wears off he just mumbles some random thoughts, contradicting himself, just becomes paranoid.

As for the complexity of the universe, the way the physical laws work, the way life originated etc.  Of course it is very intricate, it seems very unlikely it happened by chance, but it did. The conditions for life are just right in this universe and our planet.  But we just discovered billions of other planets so the universe might be full of alien life.  Who knows.

Saying that God did it in 6 days 6000 years ago is just showing lack of understanding of basic physics, biology and geology of Earth and the observable universe. Saying that evolution is a lie is just not very sincere or flat out ignorant.

It is a cop-out by ignorant people who do not want to look further.  Teaching or even repeating religious nonsense is just irresponsible.


I completely agree with what you said

I am certainly not doubting evolution or saying earth is 6000 years old

It just crossed my mind that a 'god' might have started the big bang in such perfect fashion

Of course this 'god' would be nothing like the gods we are taught about through the Bible, Quran and Torah
If there are 100 000s of gods worldwide only a madman can think his god is the right one, and all others will burn in hell for paganism and idolatry

Now you're thinking.

There's no reason to believe in a particular god, other than the god you read about, even if you do believe in some sort of creator.

Re: your question about why everything started in such a perfect fashion, consider this. Imagine there were a million universes, 999,999 with no life whatsoever (due to the laws of physics, which may have been different in each one), and 1 that randomly produced life, which evolved so far as to question its own existence.

That one universe is not "special" in any way, it could just be a product of randomness. But seeing as it contains the only form of life advanced enough to question its own existence, does that make it special? There was no life in the 999,999 other universes to ask these questions, but in the one that we happen to live in, the conditions were perfect for life to evolve to ask that question. So how do we know that we are not a product of randomness?
sr. member
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From the New Testament we know that Jesus was not particularly interested in any kind of money. He said, "Give to Caesar his part". What can be understood as: "people, pay taxes". This is not a bitcoin philosophy, definitely.
legendary
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Freedom&Honor
Quote from: af_newbie link=topic=1695833.msg17300776#msg17300776

This is nonsense, please ignore it.  The guy is on medication.  I apologise for his post.  He is not well.


I have spent a couple of hours reading through the religious threads and some of the beddeckers replies, and he has showed himself in a completely different light than I thought he was from this post and reply links

However, as a thinking being, I tried to weed out the useful information from the bullshit
And my beliefs are still a bit rocked

I have not thought that there could be something that started the big bang and created order, I mean I did.. But not in this way, and the machine like stuff got to me a bit too Cheesy

How do you know he is on medication?

Just a hunch.  Sometimes his replies are coherent.  But when he is cornered or his medication wears off he just mumbles some random thoughts, contradicting himself, just becomes paranoid.

As for the complexity of the universe, the way the physical laws work, the way life originated etc.  Of course it is very intricate, it seems very unlikely it happened by chance, but it did. The conditions for life are just right in this universe and our planet.  But we just discovered billions of other planets so the universe might be full of alien life.  Who knows.

Saying that God did it in 6 days 6000 years ago is just showing lack of understanding of basic physics, biology and geology of Earth and the observable universe. Saying that evolution is a lie is just not very sincere or flat out ignorant.

It is a cop-out by ignorant people who do not want to look further.  Teaching or even repeating religious nonsense is just irresponsible.


I completely agree with what you said

I am certainly not doubting evolution or saying earth is 6000 years old

It just crossed my mind that a 'god' might have started the big bang in such perfect fashion

Of course this 'god' would be nothing like the gods we are taught about through the Bible, Quran and Torah
If there are 100 000s of gods worldwide only a madman can think his god is the right one, and all others will burn in hell for paganism and idolatry
sr. member
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In the beginning is the word and word is -- bitcoin. Who knows, maybe money is just an illusion and the reality behind it is bitcoin and that by finding bitcoin we will achieve enlightenment, we will find Truth.

Oh wait, this is supposed to be about the Judeo-Christian/Islamic god right? Must be in the wrong thread... I'll leave now.
legendary
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Freedom&Honor
Quote from: af_newbie link=topic=1695833.msg17300776#msg17300776

This is nonsense, please ignore it.  The guy is on medication.  I apologise for his post.  He is not well.


I have spent a couple of hours reading through the religious threads and some of the beddeckers replies, and he has showed himself in a completely different light than I thought he was from this post and reply links

However, as a thinking being, I tried to weed out the useful information from the bullshit
And my beliefs are still a bit rocked

I have not thought that there could be something that started the big bang and created order, I mean I did.. But not in this way, and the machine like stuff got to me a bit too Cheesy

How do you know he is on medication?
hero member
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I think this is just another cheap question that is generating cheap answer and replies here lol. For people who believe in God as the creator, everything in this world and the universe belong to him.  For those that do not believe in God, we have nothing to talk about.
legendary
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You forgot 2 words: ''Free will''.
Yes, we are not robots but human beings with free will.
So, we can do with our free will whatever we wants, to do good or bad things.
God can prepare many great ideas and things for us, but Lucifer also offer us a lot evil things.
It's our responsibility what we will choose on the end.
Can you force your own children to do only good things in their life?
I don't think so.
They will do both good and evil and parents can just hope that, eventually, they will become good people, not bad or evil.
If you read story about ''Prodigal son'' in the Bible, you will perfectly understand God's hearth toward us.

legendary
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I'm sure that God wants us to be happy, connected, and have easier life.
His intention is not that we suffer but to enjoy nice life.
Internet is, in some way, as spiritual world, because we can overcome time and space.
Bitcoin is one of the best tools on Internet, so I'm sure it comes with God's blessing.
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So long as Bitcoin is given in church for donation then God deems Bitcoin A-OKAY!  Grin
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Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Does God also own all the Bitcoins? Grin Grin

Well i am a man of God so i believe he owns bitcoin Cheesy Why? because he owns us for he is our creator then we create something very nice and great to other people so he owns the world in other words he owns it all but we feel free to live because we have our own will to decide whom ever you want in your mind its because God can't judge people only he loves people by his Goodness of his heart so i believe that God very owns the bitcoin and he had a human supporting it so a human created bitcoin God will only just support that human as his wish to do with bitcoin God shall very agree on what shall happened he only just supporting his son to a brightest future so atheist i don't blame you if you don't believe in God but surely someday you will believe Cheesy Thank you! have a nice day!
legendary
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Freedom&Honor
Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Does God also own all the Bitcoins? Grin Grin

The lord of hosts?? You mean Anthony Hopkins?

Haha Ford is
Harrison? Huh

He was referring to Westworld. Anthony Hopkins created a world of humanoids who are called hosts
Ah ok. I wanted Westworld for the first couple of episodes but lost interest in it rather fast. I am not a West buff but the advanced technology was very well portrayed.
As Harrison is a big regilious person too.

Try and watch the whole series, it's well worth it. There are multiple narratives which seem confusing at first, but everything comes together in the end. One of the best TV adaptations for years IMO, great acting/writing and some very interesting philosophical questions. I really enjoyed it, even though the pacing in the first half of the series is a little slow.

No, the God of the universe, Who is shown to exist in many ways like these:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Cool

WOW!

This...

This made me question my beliefs

I was raised as a Christian, only to figure with vast certainty that God is an imaginary being, I lived so far around 5 years as an agnostic and an atheist only to have my belief rocked right now, after 5 years (20 yo btw)

Damn

I... I... Can't..

This.. Damn

I'm wondering do you believe in a "soul"?

I can grasp an idea of a "creator", but I cannot grasp an idea of a creator who cares about what we do (10 commandments etc.)
hero member
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Need some spare btc for a new PC
The similarity between Bitcoin and god: both are based on beliefs

there is absolutely no way to connect bitcoin and god on any reasonable level whatsoever.
sr. member
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The similarity between Bitcoin and god: both are based on beliefs
legendary
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Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Does God also own all the Bitcoins? Grin Grin

The lord of hosts?? You mean Anthony Hopkins?

Haha Ford is
Harrison? Huh

He was referring to Westworld. Anthony Hopkins created a world of humanoids who are called hosts
Ah ok. I wanted Westworld for the first couple of episodes but lost interest in it rather fast. I am not a West buff but the advanced technology was very well portrayed.
As Harrison is a big regilious person too.

Try and watch the whole series, it's well worth it. There are multiple narratives which seem confusing at first, but everything comes together in the end. One of the best TV adaptations for years IMO, great acting/writing and some very interesting philosophical questions. I really enjoyed it, even though the pacing in the first half of the series is a little slow.

No, the God of the universe, Who is shown to exist in many ways like these:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Cool
legendary
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Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Does God also own all the Bitcoins? Grin Grin

The lord of hosts?? You mean Anthony Hopkins?

Haha Ford is
Harrison? Huh

He was referring to Westworld. Anthony Hopkins created a world of humanoids who are called hosts
Ah ok. I wanted Westworld for the first couple of episodes but lost interest in it rather fast. I am not a West buff but the advanced technology was very well portrayed.
As Harrison is a big regilious person too.

Try and watch the whole series, it's well worth it. There are multiple narratives which seem confusing at first, but everything comes together in the end. One of the best TV adaptations for years IMO, great acting/writing and some very interesting philosophical questions. I really enjoyed it, even though the pacing in the first half of the series is a little slow.
legendary
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Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Does God also own all the Bitcoins? Grin Grin

The lord of hosts?? You mean Anthony Hopkins?

Doesn't look like anything to me.
legendary
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But from your post I can deduce the word "god" which isn't referring to the Almighty God, so who were you talking about?

Probably one of the numerous false ones about. You get lots of those about nowadays.

hero member
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God owns everything in the heavens and on earth, that's including the coins, like you quoted Scriptures, silver and gold is his. Likewise Bitcoin. But from your post I can deduce the word "god" which isn't referring to the Almighty God, so who were you talking about?

How can you know that? Just because? Did he tell you that? Is it written somewhere? Stop saying "it's god" to every argument, it's stupid and ignorant.
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God owns everything in the heavens and on earth, that's including the coins, like you quoted Scriptures, silver and gold is his. Likewise Bitcoin. But from your post I can deduce the word "god" which isn't referring to the Almighty God, so who were you talking about?
legendary
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God uses everything for His purposes. But since you didn't capitalize "god" in the title (From a biblical view how does god deem Bitcoin?), but appropriately capitalized some other words, you weren't talking about the God of the universe. What god were you talking about?

Cool

"God uses everything for His purposes." so are you saying that god used Hitler to get rid of all the jews but we mortals got in his way and ruined his plans? Are you also saying that god is using various diseases to cleanse the world of humans? Are you saying that he's really trying to get rid of africans with to all the illnesses and diseases, hunger, etc..? That's pretty stupid and ignorant thing to say even for your standard....


I checked through the words in your questions, and I didn't find any of them in my words, "God uses everything for His purposes." Are you sure that you were directing your questions at me? Sounds like you are talking about somebody else, and simply got at least two of us mixed up in your post. In the event that you WERE talking to me, how do your questions apply, since I didn't use any of the words in your questions?

 Huh

oh siht BADecked didnt put that annoying smiley at the end.

Well you said "God uses everything for His purposes." and everything involves everything...

Well, show us how that has anything to do with your questions.

Cool
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God uses everything for His purposes. But since you didn't capitalize "god" in the title (From a biblical view how does god deem Bitcoin?), but appropriately capitalized some other words, you weren't talking about the God of the universe. What god were you talking about?

Cool

"God uses everything for His purposes." so are you saying that god used Hitler to get rid of all the jews but we mortals got in his way and ruined his plans? Are you also saying that god is using various diseases to cleanse the world of humans? Are you saying that he's really trying to get rid of africans with to all the illnesses and diseases, hunger, etc..? That's pretty stupid and ignorant thing to say even for your standard....


I checked through the words in your questions, and I didn't find any of them in my words, "God uses everything for His purposes." Are you sure that you were directing your questions at me? Sounds like you are talking about somebody else, and simply got at least two of us mixed up in your post. In the event that you WERE talking to me, how do your questions apply, since I didn't use any of the words in your questions?

 Huh

oh siht BADecked didnt put that annoying smiley at the end.

Well you said "God uses everything for His purposes." and everything involves everything...
legendary
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God uses everything for His purposes. But since you didn't capitalize "god" in the title (From a biblical view how does god deem Bitcoin?), but appropriately capitalized some other words, you weren't talking about the God of the universe. What god were you talking about?

Cool

"God uses everything for His purposes." so are you saying that god used Hitler to get rid of all the jews but we mortals got in his way and ruined his plans? Are you also saying that god is using various diseases to cleanse the world of humans? Are you saying that he's really trying to get rid of africans with to all the illnesses and diseases, hunger, etc..? That's pretty stupid and ignorant thing to say even for your standard....


I checked through the words in your questions, and I didn't find any of them in my words, "God uses everything for His purposes." Are you sure that you were directing your questions at me? Sounds like you are talking about somebody else, and simply got at least two of us mixed up in your post. In the event that you WERE talking to me, how do your questions apply, since I didn't use any of the words in your questions?

 Huh
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Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Does God also own all the Bitcoins? Grin Grin

God created all universe so such a question is meaningless.
Since God is spiritual being, he don't need material things, including bitcoin.
His main concern is quality of our lives, our spiritual standard, compassion etc.
His the most important role is that He is our parent, father.
Parent always love his children and forgive them for all their mistakes.
He don't worry about Bitcoin, but about our souls.



"he don't need material things" but he can ban them and forbid material things?

"His main concern is quality of our lives, our spiritual standard, compassion etc" Well he's not trying that much to provide that, hm?

"His the most important role is that He is our parent, father" That reminds me of the black father stereotype, he makes a woman pregnant and runs away never to be seen again.

"Parent always love his children and forgive them for all their mistakes." Why are there sins then if we all will be forgiven? That doesn't make any sense to me.

":He don't worry about Bitcoin, but about our souls." yes, I can see that.

 
hero member
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God uses everything for His purposes. But since you didn't capitalize "god" in the title (From a biblical view how does god deem Bitcoin?), but appropriately capitalized some other words, you weren't talking about the God of the universe. What god were you talking about?

Cool

"God uses everything for His purposes." so are you saying that god used Hitler to get rid of all the jews but we mortals got in his way and ruined his plans? Are you also saying that god is using various diseases to cleanse the world of humans? Are you saying that he's really trying to get rid of africans with to all the illnesses and diseases, hunger, etc..? That's pretty stupid and ignorant thing to say even for your standard....

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Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Does God also own all the Bitcoins? Grin Grin

The lord of hosts?? You mean Anthony Hopkins?

Haha Ford is
Harrison? Huh

He was referring to Westworld. Anthony Hopkins created a world of humanoids who are called hosts
Ah ok. I wanted Westworld for the first couple of episodes but lost interest in it rather fast. I am not a West buff but the advanced technology was very well portrayed.
As Harrison is a big regilious person too.
sr. member
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God uses everything for His purposes. But since you didn't capitalize "god" in the title (From a biblical view how does god deem Bitcoin?), but appropriately capitalized some other words, you weren't talking about the God of the universe. What god were you talking about?

Cool

That's related with English writing style. Hebrew does not make any difference between upper and lower case letters
legendary
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God uses everything for His purposes. But since you didn't capitalize "god" in the title (From a biblical view how does god deem Bitcoin?), but appropriately capitalized some other words, you weren't talking about the God of the universe. What god were you talking about?

Cool
legendary
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Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Does God also own all the Bitcoins? Grin Grin

God created all universe so such a question is meaningless.
Since God is spiritual being, he don't need material things, including bitcoin.
His main concern is quality of our lives, our spiritual standard, compassion etc.
His the most important role is that He is our parent, father.
Parent always love his children and forgive them for all their mistakes.
He don't worry about Bitcoin, but about our souls.

hero member
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The Bible says give what is for the ROmans to the romans, what is for the Lord to the Lord. In simple words, God does not need your bitcoin, but give yourself to God because you belong to Him. It could also mean use your bitcoin to the proper usage the bitcoin should be but your intention and actions in using bitcoin must be in accord with Gods will.
sr. member
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Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Does God also own all the Bitcoins? Grin Grin

The lord of hosts?? You mean Anthony Hopkins?

Haha Ford is
Harrison? Huh

He was referring to Westworld. Anthony Hopkins created a world of humanoids who are called hosts
hero member
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Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Does God also own all the Bitcoins? Grin Grin

The lord of hosts?? You mean Anthony Hopkins?

Haha Ford is
Harrison? Huh
sr. member
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Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Does God also own all the Bitcoins? Grin Grin

The lord of hosts?? You mean Anthony Hopkins?

Haha Ford is
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SO bitcoin was created before man. Isn't a revelation that would be. Cheesy
legendary
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Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Does God also own all the Bitcoins? Grin Grin

The lord of hosts?? You mean Anthony Hopkins?
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Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Does God also own all the Bitcoins? Grin Grin

I think the tooth fairy owns 25%, and Santa Claus owns about the same.

As much as I've seen, Muhammad bought around 10-12%, not sure tho I'll have to check later.

Tyrantt 1:1: The duck can't swim if the closure of the electricity is not beyond the word.
Vod
legendary
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Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Does God also own all the Bitcoins? Grin Grin

I think the tooth fairy owns 25%, and Santa Claus owns about the same.
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Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Does God also own all the Bitcoins? Grin Grin
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