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From the founding of his cryptocurrency exchange FTX in 2019, Bankman-Fried engaged in widespread fraud, federal authorities said, and used his customers’ deposits to finance his political activities, buy lavish real estate and invest in other companies.

SBF intention to run an exchange was fraudulent from the get-go, imagine all that has come to light since the collapse of ftx. This serves as an eye opener for all those who trust SBF with their investment. This guy needs to go to jail, this is a premeditated crime that should be punished severely. To think that this douchebag keeps apologizing and pretending not to have any knowledge about the whole issue.  Undecided
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This was basically "known" as soon as the news of their bankruptcy came out, because lets be honest a company with billions of dollars from users funds suddenly not having enough liquidity is a proof that they used your money for something, which is a fraud. I mean we didn't exactly know where that money went to, but the logic of an exchange is to let you deposit, then charge you for trading, even charge a bit more for withdrawal fee than the transaction fee to make profit there, and that's it.

This means that there is no loss there, and the operational costs should always be lower than the revenue they make from these, and if it is not they still can't use the user funds, and get a loan or something, if it's not functioning then they need to just give the funds back and close shop that way. If somehow user funds were gone, then it's fraud, doesn't matter where it went to.
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I am pretty much sure that this guy will not spend more than a few days in jail. He has powerful backers in political circles within the United States and they will protect him no matter what happens. We are living in strange times. Steal billions of USD from ordinary people and the perpetrator will never face any sort of punishment. But if someone defaults on a tax payment of $100, then the IRS will hound him out of the home and jail him for the rest of his life. Says a lot about the criminal justice system within the United States.
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There is no amount of legitimacy in what he did he had his choice before him but chose to steal and take fraudulent act.

A self aware and conscious human should have known what the results and repercussions of his actions would bring up.
Now why relate that with his parents, no mother and father wants such sad ending for their kids especially to end with your both hands cuffed.
But he shouldn't go unpunished I do not feel pity for that creep
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Stealing and fraud is hard to get around, even if it was somehow legal in one sense it would still amount to the same thing of deliberate deception.

in regards to the co mingled funds

having user agreements that spot traders funds wont be loaned out.. and are separate from other users. is just contract breach of civil law by just being co-mingled. (guilty)
(imagine just a case of putting all funds into one wallet. but not use for loans. it would just be a guilt of civil law, not criminal)

but if those spot trader funds amounted to say 500k coins. where he moved or used those for loans. then that is financial fraud, which is criminal (guilty)
(by using spot trader funds for loans/leveraging. he is criminally guilty)

One of the funniest parts of this all has been Brian Armstrong and his remarks about what a crook SBF is ( talk about the pot calling the kettle black). 

yes, agreed, yes
armstrong is currently the secret hoarder of greyscales trust fund. but has stupid quotes in SEC filings that it cannot disclose the PUBLIC addresses of the hoards to the public, the trust, the company or to legal entities such as the SEC
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One of the funniest parts of this all has been Brian Armstrong and his remarks about what a crook SBF is ( talk about the pot calling the kettle black). 

I hope SBF is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and that he serves a shit ton of time.  He not only pulled some major scumbag moves, he (whether you like to admit it or not) made a bad look for an already reeling bitcoin/cryptocurrency ecosphere.

My guess is they will make an example of him, and he'll get pretty hard. 
STT
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Stealing and fraud is hard to get around, even if it was somehow legal in one sense it would still amount to the same thing of deliberate deception.   They'll bring racketeering charges against him if they have to, theres no way he is getting off altogether with it.   The only real chance if  determined to this aspiration rather then accidentally being awful was to disappear into the jungles of a country with no diplomatic links to USA, not often pulled off but theres no law to excuse redirecting a balance sheet of billions.
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ofcourse the parents know the loopholes
the best tax avoiders are the ones that excel in financial law
(UK treasury minister (in summer) had a wife that avoided tax.. yep the top UK tax man's own wife avoided paying billions in tax)

the issue is this:
even earlier this year when SBF was doing the liquidator industry of buying dilapidated companies to raid their assets. he had no follow through to finalise the process of disposing the bad assets.

then the last few years with his things like co-mingling of funds, lack of having compliance processes (while trying to lobby regulators about compliance rules). both show he has the knowledge but not the will power or attention span to actually implement

he may appear smart by saying certain buzzwords his parents taught him. like being able to explain leveraging in a 15 second elevator sales pitch. but it doesnt mean he actually knows how to hedge bets/investments, and use leveraging properly as proven
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The irony of two law professors having a child who commits one of the greatest financial frauds in history. Was SBF motivated to commit fraud as a form of rebellion against his parents?
Having a strong legal background, Sam already had a good idea that was he was doing could earn him jail time, but Sam committed the crime because he wanted to commit the crime, he had his choice, there is no need relating his crimes to him trying to rebel against his parents. Sam probably tried the fraud once, liked the fraud, then decided to keep on with it, expecting to never get caught. Unfortunately, it is every day for the thief, one day for the owner.
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The irony of two law professors having a child who commits one of the greatest financial frauds in history. Was SBF motivated to commit fraud as a form of rebellion against his parents?

I do not think so because in the early years of FTX, there is a record where SBF father works and got paid by FTX.  If SBF is in a rebellius state, he wouldn't have his father get involved in his business and pay him the works his father did.

If this is accurate it appears FTX was run as a giant slush fund from day one. Without any consideration given to risk assessment, compartmentalization or any of the core tenets large financial operations typically utilize to mitigate risk. Could lack of regulation partially be due to FTX being run as an offshore legal entity? In which case, crypto markets might shift towards more regulated markets? Or does the risk extend to more established and regulated exchanges like coinbase and binance as well?

SBF parents are knowledgeable about financial laws, this is the possible reason why SBF have the courage to embezzle the funds of FTX thinking that he will get away with it since he got parents who possibly knows holes of the financial laws and how to use them in their advantage.
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The arrest surprised the FTX founder and his parents, who were visiting him, according to a person with knowledge of the matter. Bankman-Fried was taken away in handcuffs.

Bankman-Fried appeared in Magistrate Court, dressed in a blue suit and white shirt, eschewing his usual dishevelled outfit of shorts and T-shirt. He was escorted inside by police, while his parents, Stanford Law School professors Joe Bankman and Barbara Fried, sat in the rear of the gallery.
parents were not 'just visiting'.
they actually quit their jobs as professors mid-semester and took early retirement and moved to the bohamas AFTER SBF got into trouble
even thought before the november trouble the parents had diary schedules of university activities set for 2023
(they said they long ago planned the retirement but that got debunked by the diary schedule showing they originally planned to work into 2023 before he got caught)

also when arrested usually the clothes you go in with is what you end up wearing to court(if its smart enough clothing). but if it is too casual you end up wearing a jail jump suit. so the obvious idea is get arrested in a suit so you can appear in court wearing a suit and avoid the orange jump suit visual bias of guilty view

he had been advised what to wear because its common knowledge that your not allowed a tie in jail (choke hazard) so thats the lack of tie at arrest. where if needed family can put a tie on him in the courthouse more easily than trying to arrange a dress-rehersal change of clothes hours before court should he have been in a jump suit from the jail.

so they had it well planned that he would have a suit at the jail to wear before transport and then a tie should he need it at the court house
(as many people do this to ensure they dont look guilty by turning up in a jumpsuit to court)


I blame the system more then the people exactly, its a given that people will be at some corrupt or inept does the difference really matter in terms of failure it seems quite inevitable to occur.

if everyone was good and never harmed anyone. there would be no need for rules

EG its impossible for someone to grow biological wings and fly into space. so thats why there are no icarus style rules.
rules exist becasue people do harm others.
but rules should be updated or meet the standards of their times to solve the problems that exist of the time(some rules are outdated) and some rules need to be invented. where the rules benefit the masses of normal people from being harmed. rather than made to profit the rich and foolish

STT
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I blame the system more then the people exactly, its a given that people will be at some point either corrupt or inept does the difference really matter in terms of failure it seems quite inevitable to occur.   Im surprised it was there from the start because surely he had to establish trust and be checked out by any bank or related lending, investment company to qualify and it makes all parties look bad to have been involved.
  The law aspect can be stated for or against, because surely he has a good defence team ready to reduce any liability he might have.  If they say fraud it does seem very serious especially when its billions misdirected but knowing law doesn't make them automatically any more moral people then others.

SBF not to contest extradition

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/19/business/sbf-extradition-bahamas/index.html

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NEW YORK - Sam Bankman-Fried’s lies, US prosecutors say, stretched back to the very beginning.

From the founding of his cryptocurrency exchange FTX in 2019, Bankman-Fried engaged in widespread fraud, federal authorities said, and used his customers’ deposits to finance his political activities, buy lavish real estate and invest in other companies.


According to civil and criminal charges filed against Bankman-Fried in the Southern District of New York on Dec 13, he repeatedly lied to customers, investors and lenders about the structure of his business empire and how he handled the billions of dollars in funds that crypto users deposited in his exchange.

In a 13-page criminal indictment, Bankman-Fried was charged with eight counts, including wire fraud against customers and lenders, as well as conspiracy to defraud the United States and violate campaign finance laws. A civil complaint filed by the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) laid out a detailed narrative of FTX’s collapse, claiming that for three years Bankman-Fried had misappropriated billions in customer deposits to fund his business and political activities.

The charges against Bankman-Fried came on one of the most dramatic days in the rapidly unfolding collapse of FTX, which has rocked the crypto industry. In Washington, the company’s new chief executive officer, who took over when the firm filed for bankruptcy, testified in Congress, laying out the myriad management failures that contributed to the exchange’s implosion. In Nassau, the capital of the Bahamas, Bankman-Fried appeared in court for the first time, having spent the night in a police cell after being arrested at his home on Dec 12. He was denied bail and remained in custody.

The arrest surprised the FTX founder and his parents, who were visiting him, according to a person with knowledge of the matter. Bankman-Fried was taken away in handcuffs.

Bankman-Fried appeared in Magistrate Court, dressed in a blue suit and white shirt, eschewing his usual dishevelled outfit of shorts and T-shirt. He was escorted inside by police, while his parents, Stanford Law School professors Joe Bankman and Barbara Fried, sat in the rear of the gallery.

The lead prosecutor for Bahamian authorities, Mr Franklyn Williams, argued that Bankman-Fried was a flight risk, with sufficient financial resources to escape the country. A lawyer for Bankman-Fried said his decision to remain in the Bahamas after FTX collapsed showed he had no intention to flee, adding that Bankman-Fried required medication for depression and attention deficit disorder.

The court’s chief magistrate Joyann Ferguson-Pratt ruled that Bankman-Fried should remain in custody. He was allowed a few minutes with his parents, who embraced him in a long hug as the courtroom was cleared.

Bankman-Fried’s arrest was a stunning fall from grace for an executive who was once described as a modern-day John Pierpont Morgan, and became a darling of big investors in Silicon Valley and a prolific Democratic Party donor. These days, Bankman-Fried, 30, is more often likened to Bernie Madoff, the fraudster who orchestrated a notorious Ponzi scheme.

As FTX collapsed, the SEC said in its complaint, investors were kept in the dark about what was going on. Federal prosecutors said Bankman-Fried’s lenders were also kept in the dark. And hundreds of thousands of FTX customers around the world were kept in the dark, too – only to find out that their money was gone.

“Bankman-Fried was orchestrating a massive, years-long fraud, diverting billions of dollars of the trading platform’s customer funds for his own personal benefit and to help grow his crypto empire,” the SEC said.

According to court filings, Bankman-Fried was indicted by a grand jury on Dec 9. The arrest took place three days later, when Bahamian authorities took him into custody at Albany, the luxury apartment complex where he has lived since he moved FTX to the island from Hong Kong in 2021.

At a news conference on Dec 13, US attorney for the Southern District of New York Damian Williams said the investigation into FTX was “very much ongoing” and “moving very quickly”.

He called the company’s collapse “one of the biggest financial frauds in American history”.

Federal prosecutors will need to extradite Bankman-Fried so he can face trial in federal court in the United States. But while the Bahamas has an extradition treaty with the US, that process could stretch for weeks or months if Bankman-Fried contests it.

Mr Mark Cohen, a lawyer for Bankman-Fried, said his client “is reviewing the charges with his legal team and considering all of his legal options”.

Just over a month ago, Bankman-Fried was widely viewed as one of the few reliable figures in a freewheeling, loosely regulated industry. He contributed US$5.6 million (S$7.6 million) to President Joe Biden’s 2020 election effort, and FTX also spent lavishly on TV commercials with an array of celebrity endorsers such as basketball star Stephen Curry and NFL quarterback Tom Brady. Bankman-Fried had been at the forefront of an industry-wide effort to bring crypto into the mainstream of American commerce.

But strip away all the references to crypto in the SEC’s civil complaint, and a picture emerges of garden-variety lies to investors – falsehoods that date back to 2019.

Regulators say Bankman-Fried lied to dozens of big venture capital firms and wealthy family offices, as he raised nearly US$2 billion (S$2.7 billion) to finance his company.

The SEC claims that he misled those investors in reports about the financial health of FTX and its sister company, Alameda Research, a crypto trading platform that he had helped start. He also misled investors about the close ties between the two companies, the SEC said, and concealed how he had allowed his trading firm to routinely borrow money from FTX customers – borrowing that occurred despite claims that all customer money was safe.

The mixing of money allowed Alameda to make bigger trades, invest in other crypto companies, buy Bahamas real estate and make personal loans to FTX executives. The fraud was enabled in two key ways, the SEC said: FTX customers were directed to deposit fiat currency, such as US dollars, in bank accounts controlled by Alameda, and the trading firm could draw down from a “virtually limitless” line of credit funded by FTX customer assets.

Then in the spring, when the crypto market began to crater, other crypto firms that were lenders to Alameda began to call in their loans, demanding repayment, according to the authorities. That forced Bankman-Fried and others at FTX to double down and take even more money from FTX customers to make Alameda whole.

The strategy of taking money from FTX to keep Alameda afloat imploded when customers of the crypto exchange started demanding their money this autumn. The financial hole was US$8 billion (S$10.86 billion), so big that the whole enterprise collapsed.

In the indictment and accompanying court papers, federal prosecutors echoed many of the allegations in the SEC’s complaint. They also claimed Bankman-Fried had broken campaign finance laws by making political contributions to both the Democratic and Republican parties “in the names of co-conspirators, when in fact those contributions were funded by Alameda Research with misappropriated customer funds”.

The scheme was “in the service of the defendant’s desire to influence the direction of policy and legislation on the cryptocurrency industry”, prosecutors wrote in court papers.

Before his arrest, Bankman-Fried was scheduled to testify at a Dec 13 hearing in front of the House Financial Services Committee, which is investigating the collapse of FTX. The hearing went ahead without him, featuring testimony from John Jay Ray III, a veteran of corporate restructuring who has taken over as CEO of FTX.

In his opening statement, Mr Ray blamed the collapse of FTX on the “absolute concentration of control in the hands of a small group of grossly inexperienced and unsophisticated individuals”.

In the early 2000s, Mr Ray oversaw the unwinding of Enron, the energy trading firm that collapsed in an accounting scandal. At the hearing, he called the perpetrators of Enron’s crimes “highly sophisticated”, whereas FTX executives appeared to have engaged in “really just old-fashioned embezzlement”, he said.

“Even with most failed companies, we have a fair road map of what happened,” Mr Ray said in his testimony. “We’re dealing with a literal paperless bankruptcy. It makes it difficult to track.”

The SEC, in its complaint, amplified those concerns and warnings. The complaint said that from the beginning, “FTX had poor controls and fundamentally deficient risk management procedures”. The SEC said the company treated assets and liabilities as “interchangeable” in its accounting ledgers and bookkeeping.

For now, however, no one other than Bankman-Fried has been charged.

https://www.straitstimes.com/tech/tech-news/ftx-was-engaged-in-a-massive-yearslong-fraud-us-prosecutors


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I hadn't realized both of SBF's parents are stanford law professors:

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Bankman-Fried appeared in Magistrate Court, dressed in a blue suit and white shirt, eschewing his usual dishevelled outfit of shorts and T-shirt. He was escorted inside by police, while his parents, Stanford Law School professors Joe Bankman and Barbara Fried, sat in the rear of the gallery.

The irony of two law professors having a child who commits one of the greatest financial frauds in history. Was SBF motivated to commit fraud as a form of rebellion against his parents?

If this is accurate it appears FTX was run as a giant slush fund from day one. Without any consideration given to risk assessment, compartmentalization or any of the core tenets large financial operations typically utilize to mitigate risk. Could lack of regulation partially be due to FTX being run as an offshore legal entity? In which case, crypto markets might shift towards more regulated markets? Or does the risk extend to more established and regulated exchanges like coinbase and binance as well?
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