OP = Scammer
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OP = Scammer
I don't really know who is right or wrong on the issue of the payment, I'd say if I was Muddafudda I would have just paid you the original amount. $150 Usd is pretty cheap to get a coin made IMO and there wasn't the altcoin generators back in November so it stands to reason that if you have a business creating coins that you would just copy and paste coins and change parameters but if you make a couple mistakes in the code it changes things completely. The coding mistakes have more or less made it much harder for Mudda to continue work with his coin creation business as those who are serious would do their research would think twice.
I would take this as a learning experience if you decide to ever get a coin coded in the future, diplomacy goes a long way. One day you should get your own coin coded and have all the code checked, rechecked and tested before before starting. I think the two most important things in building a foundation are forum management and fee structure. Onlyjackson made a valid point that before Quark really started doing well, they suffered some serious growing pains where someone in a leadership position would constantly fight with people in the foundation.
Here's a pic for reference
Just my 2 cents on the matter.
I would take this as a learning experience if you decide to ever get a coin coded in the future, diplomacy goes a long way. One day you should get your own coin coded and have all the code checked, rechecked and tested before before starting. I think the two most important things in building a foundation are forum management and fee structure. Onlyjackson made a valid point that before Quark really started doing well, they suffered some serious growing pains where someone in a leadership position would constantly fight with people in the foundation.
Here's a pic for reference
Just my 2 cents on the matter.
mudder is a premine junkie. Period.
if you're honest with yourself though, aren't we all a little bit? i remember when i made coins, i would premine them just because i knew i'd never have enough hash to get any coins myself. it was kind of fun to have a coin too, but cant say i'd ever make another one. It was a fun little expirement but now i'm happily content being a non coin dev. just my thoughts and attempts to keep some objectivity here. muddafudda has faults, but singling him out for loving his premine is kind of focusing on the wrong issue here, which the focus should remain on the fact that he fucked you over and basically told you to kick rocks, but you were probably pulling a noob, all up in his ear with demands. as a developer, we tend to hate that sort of thing, but that doesn't justify him taking your money in lieu of finishing the contract. if anythign else he should have returned you the money and told you to find someone else to boss around. just my .02 BTC
I am honest with myself, thus why I turned down that opportunity.
After the coin was presented, I thought about letting the premine slide (if it was to be fully accountable), then decided against it when I began to realize the constants. eg. the growing pile of broken and abandoned coins. If he was asking that much for ADT, how many others has he set up with his 5 LTC checkpoint updates ?
Oh yeah, I didn't make it or nothing to do with it. Client update 5ltc with windows qt if you need it in the future.
It may be worth considering putting the pos out to 9-12 months but it may not matter.
If you need anymore done i can smash em out for about 12 ltc a pop.
Regards
It may be worth considering putting the pos out to 9-12 months but it may not matter.
If you need anymore done i can smash em out for about 12 ltc a pop.
Regards
@ ALL, Anyone here that thinks this is solely about the 5 LTC is fooling themselves. Just ask the miners and bagholders who have lost a fortune thanks to that pile over there.
Its about time we organize ourselves and demand justice.
mudder is a premine junkie. Period.
if you're honest with yourself though, aren't we all a little bit? i remember when i made coins, i would premine them just because i knew i'd never have enough hash to get any coins myself. it was kind of fun to have a coin too, but cant say i'd ever make another one. It was a fun little expirement but now i'm happily content being a non coin dev. just my thoughts and attempts to keep some objectivity here. muddafudda has faults, but singling him out for loving his premine is kind of focusing on the wrong issue here, which the focus should remain on the fact that he fucked you over and basically told you to kick rocks, but you were probably pulling a noob, all up in his ear with demands. as a developer, we tend to hate that sort of thing, but that doesn't justify him taking your money in lieu of finishing the contract. if anythign else he should have returned you the money and told you to find someone else to boss around. just my .02 BTC
i don't think you should have asked for your money back from what i can tell..
mudda made a very good case i think
BUT if there was a premine then i'm thinking ooooh jeez that is not good lol
then i'm thinking id side with the other guy lol
sorry guys you got yourself a crappy situation here
one thing that stuck out to me is if your NOT a coder and you just go and demand after the fact
that you NOW want your coin to be SHA or scrypt afterwards you don't realize that may mean scraping the code base he was using etc
i have never worked on a coin but i have cruised through the source on some and i can code c++/c just fine so i know what it's like dealing with noobs
asking for stuff afterwards.. oh by the way i want this or that *now
my verdict ? honestly i dunno i'm kinda split between you two guys.. thank god my opinion doesn't mean anything lol
carry on now.. i'm done
mudda made a very good case i think
BUT if there was a premine then i'm thinking ooooh jeez that is not good lol
then i'm thinking id side with the other guy lol
sorry guys you got yourself a crappy situation here
one thing that stuck out to me is if your NOT a coder and you just go and demand after the fact
that you NOW want your coin to be SHA or scrypt afterwards you don't realize that may mean scraping the code base he was using etc
i have never worked on a coin but i have cruised through the source on some and i can code c++/c just fine so i know what it's like dealing with noobs
asking for stuff afterwards.. oh by the way i want this or that *now
my verdict ? honestly i dunno i'm kinda split between you two guys.. thank god my opinion doesn't mean anything lol
carry on now.. i'm done
Hia
Its been a while. lolAfter what fact(s) ?
Plz check the timestamps. My specs were posted on September 17 and he didn't get it done until November 11.
mudder is a premine junkie. Period.
i don't think you should have asked for your money back from what i can tell..
mudda made a very good case i think
BUT if there was a premine then i'm thinking ooooh jeez that is not good lol
then i'm thinking id side with the other guy lol
sorry guys you got yourself a crappy situation here
one thing that stuck out to me is if your NOT a coder and you just go and demand after the fact
that you NOW want your coin to be SHA or scrypt afterwards you don't realize that may mean scraping the code base he was using etc
i have never worked on a coin but i have cruised through the source on some and i can code c++/c just fine so i know what it's like dealing with noobs
asking for stuff afterwards.. oh by the way i want this or that *now
my verdict ? honestly i dunno i'm kinda split between you two guys.. thank god my opinion doesn't mean anything lol
carry on now.. i'm done
mudda made a very good case i think
BUT if there was a premine then i'm thinking ooooh jeez that is not good lol
then i'm thinking id side with the other guy lol
sorry guys you got yourself a crappy situation here
one thing that stuck out to me is if your NOT a coder and you just go and demand after the fact
that you NOW want your coin to be SHA or scrypt afterwards you don't realize that may mean scraping the code base he was using etc
i have never worked on a coin but i have cruised through the source on some and i can code c++/c just fine so i know what it's like dealing with noobs
asking for stuff afterwards.. oh by the way i want this or that *now
my verdict ? honestly i dunno i'm kinda split between you two guys.. thank god my opinion doesn't mean anything lol
carry on now.. i'm done
i told you 50 times, i wanted you to write that cpu miner in erlang, you wrote it in go. i demand a refund! YER A SCEMMER!
i don't think you should have asked for your money back from what i can tell..
mudda made a very good case i think
BUT if there was a premine then i'm thinking ooooh jeez that is not good lol
then i'm thinking id side with the other guy lol
sorry guys you got yourself a crappy situation here
one thing that stuck out to me is if your NOT a coder and you just go and demand after the fact
that you NOW want your coin to be SHA or scrypt afterwards you don't realize that may mean scraping the code base he was using etc
i have never worked on a coin but i have cruised through the source on some and i can code c++/c just fine so i know what it's like dealing with noobs
asking for stuff afterwards.. oh by the way i want this or that *now
my verdict ? honestly i dunno i'm kinda split between you two guys.. thank god my opinion doesn't mean anything lol
carry on now.. i'm done
mudda made a very good case i think
BUT if there was a premine then i'm thinking ooooh jeez that is not good lol
then i'm thinking id side with the other guy lol
sorry guys you got yourself a crappy situation here
one thing that stuck out to me is if your NOT a coder and you just go and demand after the fact
that you NOW want your coin to be SHA or scrypt afterwards you don't realize that may mean scraping the code base he was using etc
i have never worked on a coin but i have cruised through the source on some and i can code c++/c just fine so i know what it's like dealing with noobs
asking for stuff afterwards.. oh by the way i want this or that *now
my verdict ? honestly i dunno i'm kinda split between you two guys.. thank god my opinion doesn't mean anything lol
carry on now.. i'm done
i just read this thread, and i actually agree with muddafudda. Hippie Tech, you need to make up your mind about your coin before you start.
you gave muddafudda the right to give you 0 coins back.
However, I read the blackmail thread before i read this thread. For me, the blackmail thread is much worse than any offense that might have been inflicted over the development of vegancoin.
two wrongs don't make a right. you both suck.
lol senior member slap fight itt
you gave muddafudda the right to give you 0 coins back.
However, I read the blackmail thread before i read this thread. For me, the blackmail thread is much worse than any offense that might have been inflicted over the development of vegancoin.
two wrongs don't make a right. you both suck.
lol senior member slap fight itt
muddafudda has threatened to blackmail various individuals, hoping that someone would pressure me into dropping my case against him.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/time-to-expose-the-liars-cheaters-and-scammers-429914
OP updated.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/time-to-expose-the-liars-cheaters-and-scammers-429914
OP updated.
Ok thank you for your kindness.
Apology accepted.
My feedback has also been deleted.
HT xD
edit
But not forgotten.
My feedback has also been deleted.
HT xD
edit
But not forgotten.
Done
Are we ready to resolve this?
gogogo ;-)
ok...i will make the first step. you know that my feedbacks are the truth but i will delete it.
You should delete them, too. I think we are all are to old for this play school...ok?
ok you go first
ok done...
done
Now its my turn.
Delete the negative feedback you gave me and I'll accept that as an apology for your unwarranted remarks.
I will remove the feedback I posted soon after.
HT xD
Are we ready to resolve this?
gogogo ;-)
ok...i will make the first step. you know that my feedbacks are the truth but i will delete it.
You should delete them, too. I think we are all are to old for this play school...ok?
ok you go first
ok done...
done
ok thanks bitbop....and please for the future: send only feedbacks if you are really 100% know that someone is scamming...
ok thank you.
Are we ready to resolve this?
gogogo ;-)
ok...i will make the first step. you know that my feedbacks are the truth but i will delete it.
You should delete them, too. I think we are all are to old for this play school...ok?
ok you go first
ok done...
done
ok thanks bitbop....and please for the future: send only feedbacks if you are really 100% know that someone is scamming...
Are we ready to resolve this?
gogogo ;-)
ok...i will make the first step. you know that my feedbacks are the truth but i will delete it.
You should delete them, too. I think we are all are to old for this play school...ok?
ok you go first
ok done...
done
Are we ready to resolve this?
gogogo ;-)
ok...i will make the first step. you know that my feedbacks are the truth but i will delete it.
You should delete them, too. I think we are all are to old for this play school...ok?
ok you go first
ok done...
Are we ready to resolve this?
gogogo ;-)
ok...i will make the first step. you know that my feedbacks are the truth but i will delete it.
You should delete them, too. I think we are all are to old for this play school...ok?
ok you go first
Are we ready to resolve this?
gogogo ;-)
ok...i will make the first step. you know that my feedbacks are the truth but i will delete it.
You should delete them, too. I think we are all are to old for this play school...ok?
Are we ready to resolve this?
scammers flocking together lol
ok man..show me the exact post (NOT THREAD!) of my supposed scam
and the forum member who got scamed by me you freak@mods:sorry mods, because you do nothing against bitbop we have to do it by ourselves
scammers flocking together lol
Clueless when it comes to scamming ? Yup thats me ! 
I held onto Vlad2Vlad's coins for weeks and still couldn't figure it out !
I held onto Vlad2Vlad's coins for weeks and still couldn't figure it out !
Why are you ignoring me Vlad ?
I am tired of holding onto your 1B COL and do not expect the client to be fixed anytime soon.
Plz PM me your email so I can send you the entire wallet.
I am tired of holding onto your 1B COL and do not expect the client to be fixed anytime soon.
Plz PM me your email so I can send you the entire wallet.
don't speak with him Hippie Tech, he is realy a stupid freak
Do you want to resolve our trust dilemma?
Clueless when it comes to scamming ? Yup thats me !
I held onto Vlad2Vlad's coins for weeks and still couldn't figure it out !
I held onto Vlad2Vlad's coins for weeks and still couldn't figure it out !
Why are you ignoring me Vlad ?
I am tired of holding onto your 1B COL and do not expect the client to be fixed anytime soon.
Plz PM me your email so I can send you the entire wallet.
I am tired of holding onto your 1B COL and do not expect the client to be fixed anytime soon.
Plz PM me your email so I can send you the entire wallet.
For whom the noob trolls. eg. bitbop
I posted this on bitbop's rep thread hoping he/she would come to his/her senses and apologize for unjustly calling me a scammer.
Me too, op is scammer
I posted this on bitbop's rep thread hoping he/she would come to his/her senses and apologize for unjustly calling me a scammer.
I think you're the scammer, read quick tho
Me too, op is scammer
Explain your actions ! TROLL !
I've read the entire thread and I agree with muddafudda on this one. You paid him 5 LTCs and want a refund? How many hours did muddafudda spend on this?
Honestly, at $125 (current price, I assume it was in that ballpark when the deal was made) I'm not sure what you were expecting. Coingen costs about $125 (which didn't exist of course at the time of this deal) and you were expecting a high quality, custom made coin for the same price?
You probably would have been better off paying a reasonable price to a good developer, rather than hoping to get lucky with a $125 developer.
Honestly, at $125 (current price, I assume it was in that ballpark when the deal was made) I'm not sure what you were expecting. Coingen costs about $125 (which didn't exist of course at the time of this deal) and you were expecting a high quality, custom made coin for the same price?
You probably would have been better off paying a reasonable price to a good developer, rather than hoping to get lucky with a $125 developer.
So I'm supposed to comprimise on everything ? Including the premine ?
I did not get what I asked for, namely a SHA-256, POW, fair launch coin. He even messed up the rewards. I have every right to ask for and expect a full refund.
Btw, check the LTC market history before making those assumptions. LTC was approximately 0.01 BTC when I paid him the 5 LTC.
I've read the entire thread and I agree with muddafudda on this one. You paid him 5 LTCs and want a refund? How many hours did muddafudda spend on this?
Honestly, at $125 (current price, I assume it was in that ballpark when the deal was made) I'm not sure what you were expecting. Coingen costs about $125 (which didn't exist of course at the time of this deal) and you were expecting a high quality, custom made coin for the same price?
You probably would have been better off paying a reasonable price to a good developer, rather than hoping to get lucky with a $125 developer.
Honestly, at $125 (current price, I assume it was in that ballpark when the deal was made) I'm not sure what you were expecting. Coingen costs about $125 (which didn't exist of course at the time of this deal) and you were expecting a high quality, custom made coin for the same price?
You probably would have been better off paying a reasonable price to a good developer, rather than hoping to get lucky with a $125 developer.
As the pm stated I have started necessary steps in pursuing the matter. I have also been advised not to respond other than stating the intentions that I plan to pursue this.
Regards
Regards
Defamation? It ain't defamation when its true. You will lose your case anyway because:
a) You do not have a legal business
b) You don't pay taxes on what you earn here
c) Hippie Tech's criticism is warranted and fair. You refused to refund him for a service you didn't deliver upon, and he followed forum protocol by opening an accusation against you.
d) You have no terms of service.
e) Neither of you signed a contract.
f) You delivered a non working executable.
g) You attempted to extort him into letting you premine his coin.
a. I do have a legal business.
b. I pay taxes.
c. He requested the amount was up to me. By opening this thread he has tried to defame me and my business.
d. Has nothing to do with defamation.
e. Dont need to.
f. I delivered the exe.
g. Extortion " to secure (money, favours, etc) by intimidation, violence, or the misuse of influence or authority". if it up to me how much to return, there is no merit for extortion.
Business is business and I pay my taxes just so I can protect the business.
I think you're the scammer, read quick tho
LOLz ..
Oh ya ?! ... umm.. WTF DOES 'read quick tho' mean ?
Sounds like drunken redneck jibberish.
There is also the 5 LTC per update/ fix fee he was hoping to cash in on.
Could this be why so many other devs/ coin owners have abandoned their coins ?
My selective trolling/ questions have ruffled some feathers.. This is not just about 5 LTC. I'm sure of it.
Could this be why so many other devs/ coin owners have abandoned their coins ?
My selective trolling/ questions have ruffled some feathers.. This is not just about 5 LTC. I'm sure of it.
As the pm stated I have started necessary steps in pursuing the matter. I have also been advised not to respond other than stating the intentions that I plan to pursue this.
Regards
Regards
Defamation? It ain't defamation when its true. You will lose your case anyway because:
a) You do not have a legal business
b) You don't pay taxes on what you earn here
c) Hippie Tech's criticism is warranted and fair. You refused to refund him for a service you didn't deliver upon, and he followed forum protocol by opening an accusation against you.
d) You have no terms of service.
e) Neither of you signed a contract.
f) You delivered a non working executable.
g) You attempted to extort him into letting you premine his coin.
p.s. THANK YOU for showing animals respect and kindness ! pEACe
10 years and counting, mate. People think it's weird and I live in a country that exists almost solely on pork and dairy products. It's not always easy, given lack of access to basic ingredients and produce (was even asked to bring my own food once to restaurant for a familiy gathering WTF?! (peasants))
Also, I don't even have to be vegan merely to respect animals (although that is why i am vegan). I find that the smell of meat, raw or cooked, and dairy now makes me wanna puke.
So disgusting - if only people knew
Vegan coin, sounds kind of cool - and I am a vegan
But the wallet does not synch, I assume this is because of the dispute?
Whoever owns this, I'd consider taking it on assuming it works and nobody is looking for 5 LTCs for it!
Muddafuddda, if you want to adapt it a little bit (rewards per lock, a small premine), then let me know.
Otherwise, good day to you Sirs
But the wallet does not synch, I assume this is because of the dispute?
Whoever owns this, I'd consider taking it on assuming it works and nobody is looking for 5 LTCs for it!
Muddafuddda, if you want to adapt it a little bit (rewards per lock, a small premine), then let me know.
Otherwise, good day to you Sirs
You will not find me on there because I deleted everything weeks ago.
The fact that he insisted on the premine should be a clear sign that he is not to be trusted. He is directly responsible for many, if not most, of the abandoned and problematic coins out there. Please consider hiring someone else or you may want to look into one of the DIY guides that are apparently availbable.
HT xD
p.s. THANK YOU for showing animals respect and kindness ! pEACe
Vegan coin, sounds kind of cool - and I am a vegan
But the wallet does not synch, I assume this is because of the dispute?
Whoever owns this, I'd consider taking it on assuming it works and nobody is looking for 5 LTCs for it!
Muddafuddda, if you want to adapt it a little bit (rewards per lock, a small premine), then let me know.
Otherwise, good day to you Sirs
But the wallet does not synch, I assume this is because of the dispute?
Whoever owns this, I'd consider taking it on assuming it works and nobody is looking for 5 LTCs for it!
Muddafuddda, if you want to adapt it a little bit (rewards per lock, a small premine), then let me know.
Otherwise, good day to you Sirs
I have updated the OP to include the missed PMs and made a note about his alias "Memecoin" at Cryptsy.
As the pm stated I have started necessary steps in pursuing the matter. I have also been advised not to respond other than stating the intentions that I plan to pursue this.
Regards
Regards
New PM..
LMAO ..
1 - I did not get what I asked and paid for.
2 - As a test of character I initially let you decide what a fair refund would be.
3 - After a week with no response, I asked for 3 of the 5 LTC be returned.
4 - This has cost me my personal time and the hashpower spent earning the 5 LTC.
STOP PLAYING THE VICTIM.
Did you break a sweat copying Cryptogenic Bullion ?
Just cashed out a ton of btc. I have devoted 5btc to see if a defamation case is likely to result in a positive outcome for what you posted and damages to business.
Good luck and regards
Good luck and regards
LMAO ..
1 - I did not get what I asked and paid for.
2 - As a test of character I initially let you decide what a fair refund would be.
3 - After a week with no response, I asked for 3 of the 5 LTC be returned.
4 - This has cost me my personal time and the hashpower spent earning the 5 LTC.
STOP PLAYING THE VICTIM.
Did you break a sweat copying Cryptogenic Bullion ?
What happened::
muddafudda has refused to refund 3 of the 5 LTC I paid him for what turned out to be a copy n paste, premined, scrypt coin. eg. I specifically asked for a fair launch sha-256 coin. I paid him even though the coin's specs were not what I requested them to be, trusting that he would make the neccessary adjustments. After 2-3 days, I got buyers remorse and informed muddafudda that I wanted out due to time constraints, among other reasons. I also trusted that he would be fair about things, so I initially left it up to him to decide how much of the 5 LTC was to be returned. After a week without a response, I pm'd him asking for 3 out of the 5 LTC paid.
muddafudda has refused to refund 3 of the 5 LTC I paid him for what turned out to be a copy n paste, premined, scrypt coin. eg. I specifically asked for a fair launch sha-256 coin. I paid him even though the coin's specs were not what I requested them to be, trusting that he would make the neccessary adjustments. After 2-3 days, I got buyers remorse and informed muddafudda that I wanted out due to time constraints, among other reasons. I also trusted that he would be fair about things, so I initially left it up to him to decide how much of the 5 LTC was to be returned. After a week without a response, I pm'd him asking for 3 out of the 5 LTC paid.
I think there are 2 key points which invalidate your whole argument here.
1. After 2-3 days, I got buyers remorse and informed muddafudda that I wanted out due to time constraints You backed out, bad luck.
2. so I initially left it up to him to decide how much of the 5 LTC was to be returned Fair would be paying for my time, which you did and then backed out. My time cant be given back but because your LTC can, you decide to carry on like a 2 year old.
The facts are simple. You cancelled a job and left it up to me to decide. My time is worth far more than what i received from you so I decided to return nothing.
I also think the line "I also trusted that he would be fair about things" should be changed to "I also assumed devs time is next to free and he should pay for his time"
Caring on like a clown with a pointless argument reiterates Techshares argument.
You did not give me the ZERO PREMINE/ FAIR LAUNCH COIN I ASKED FOR.
I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO CHANGE MY MIND !
Funny how both you and r3wt have this thing with insisting on coins with premines.
My expectations were made clear from the beginning. The only change happened when I restated my request for SHA.
Remember.. YOU DID NOTHING TO EARN THIS. HOW MANY OTHERS HAVE YOU RIPPED OFF WITH THESE SHENANNIGANS ?!
Could this be why Auscoin/ the Maples dev has given up aswell ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/auscoin-132350
How much were you trying to get from him for your lame updates/fixes ?
I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO CHANGE MY MIND !
Funny how both you and r3wt have this thing with insisting on coins with premines.
My expectations were made clear from the beginning. The only change happened when I restated my request for SHA.
Remember.. YOU DID NOTHING TO EARN THIS. HOW MANY OTHERS HAVE YOU RIPPED OFF WITH THESE SHENANNIGANS ?!
Could this be why Auscoin/ the Maples dev has given up aswell ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/auscoin-132350
How much were you trying to get from him for your lame updates/fixes ?
You changed your specs halfway thru, and you didn't ask for anything unique... how can you expect more free work and anything other than a "copy and paste coin"? Hippy Tech has a habit of obsessively blaming others for mistakes he has made to the point of inventing tales of several community members being sock puppets all out to get him. They aren't sock puppets, and they are out to get you because you act like an asshole. I don't know muddafudda but I do know Hippy Tech and he truly has nothing better to do than to sit around and invent stories of conspiracy against him in his own mind rather than take responsibility for his actions.
Why does that sound familiar
I said that because I thought you could be trusted to do the right thing. So much for that... :/
I have since changed my mind.
RETURN MY 5 LTC.
I have since changed my mind.
RETURN MY 5 LTC.
Cant change your mind, it's not primary school.
As per before, this whole argument is based on someone changing their mind.
Admins please delete and warn user.
Regards.
I said that because I thought you could be trusted to do the right thing. So much for that... :/
I have since changed my mind.
RETURN MY 5 LTC.
I have since changed my mind.
RETURN MY 5 LTC.
LOL.
Admins are welcome to look through PM's. I am actually asking admins to delete this post due to no evidence and admission from the accuser it was MY CHOICE HOW MUCH TO RETURN. I made that choice, Hippy needs to live with it.
I needed the money dude. hence why i snuck in the premine. i feared if i quoted you to high you'd look elsewhere. you could have offered to pay more, i suppose. i could have asked for more too. fuck it doesn't matter at this point, i already confessed to you in pm. decide what you wanna do and we'll go from there.
Admins are welcome to look through PM's. I am actually asking admins to delete this post due to no evidence and admission from the accuser it was MY CHOICE HOW MUCH TO RETURN. I made that choice, Hippy needs to live with it.
I needed the money dude. hence why i snuck in the premine. i feared if i quoted you to high you'd look elsewhere. you could have offered to pay more, i suppose. i could have asked for more too. fuck it doesn't matter at this point, i already confessed to you in pm. decide what you wanna do and we'll go from there.
he scammed me on Nanotokens too. true douchebag, karma gonna fuck him up real good someday
You changed your specs halfway thru, and you didn't ask for anything unique... how can you expect more free work and anything other than a "copy and paste coin"? Hippy Tech has a habit of obsessively blaming others for mistakes he has made to the point of inventing tales of several community members being sock puppets all out to get him. They aren't sock puppets, and they are out to get you because you act like an asshole. I don't know muddafudda but I do know Hippy Tech and he truly has nothing better to do than to sit around and invent stories of conspiracy against him in his own mind rather than take responsibility for his actions.
I did request SHA not long after I decided on the specs, but that is a minor issue.
The main issue here is the premine he just couldn't do without. That fact alone is enough to warrant a complete refund and is cause for suspicion.
As for the rest .. blah blah blah.. If you don't wanna hear me talk about a sketchbag dev who opted his coin in on a bank started by someone known for selling trust votes, then don't read it.
Now apologize for threating my personal safety !
You changed your specs halfway thru, and you didn't ask for anything unique... how can you expect more free work and anything other than a "copy and paste coin"? Hippy Tech has a habit of obsessively blaming others for mistakes he has made to the point of inventing tales of several community members being sock puppets all out to get him. They aren't sock puppets, and they are out to get you because you act like an asshole. I don't know muddafudda but I do know Hippy Tech and he truly has nothing better to do than to sit around and invent stories of conspiracy against him in his own mind rather than take responsibility for his actions.
Looks like part of the conversation is missing (and thus, context), it jumps from "paid" straight to "I'll let you decide how much to return".
Oops. I should have been more specific as to when I decided to back out.
Yo 
Sorry to say but, I'm gonna have to back out from any involvement with Vegancoin. I have waaay too much on my plate and I need to learn a bit about coding before trying anything this technical.
The graveyard of shytecoins keeps growing.. the last thing I want is to be known for sprouting another IFC.
I know you have put some effort into it, so I'll let you decide how much of the 5 LTC should be returned.
LMVLfidTQcsemKieZYXnBm1epQTD9PcfPR
BlunderToe says he is vegan.. maybe I should run it by him ?
HT xD
p.s.
something tells me this coins-e thing is gonna blow up in alot of well known people's faces....
Sorry to say but, I'm gonna have to back out from any involvement with Vegancoin. I have waaay too much on my plate and I need to learn a bit about coding before trying anything this technical.
The graveyard of shytecoins keeps growing.. the last thing I want is to be known for sprouting another IFC.
I know you have put some effort into it, so I'll let you decide how much of the 5 LTC should be returned.
LMVLfidTQcsemKieZYXnBm1epQTD9PcfPR
BlunderToe says he is vegan.. maybe I should run it by him ?
HT xD
p.s.
something tells me this coins-e thing is gonna blow up in alot of well known people's faces....
No worries, will get back to you shortly.
Did you mean.. in a short week ?
Please return 3 LTC and we'll call it even.
LMVLfidTQcsemKieZYXnBm1epQTD9PcfPR
I know you have put some effort into it, so I'll let you decide how much of the 5 LTC should be returned.
You sent me $50 worth of LTC at the time, now you want $135 worth of LTC back. At a loss of $85 and my time??
I'm not asking its fiat value. lol Even if we were, 2 LTC / $85 is pretty damn good for a premined copy and paste job. Which btw, was not supposed to be a premined coin. I was very clear about that. Just based on that alone, I didn't get what we agreed on and should/could be asking for the entire 5 LTC, but I'm not.
Please refund 3 of the 5 LTC I sent you.
LMVLfidTQcsemKieZYXnBm1epQTD9PcfPR
Looks like part of the conversation is missing (and thus, context), it jumps from "paid" straight to "I'll let you decide how much to return".
UPDATE
Lets add attempted blackmail to the list.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/time-to-expose-the-liars-cheaters-and-scammers-429914
What happened::
muddafudda has refused to refund 3 of the 5 LTC I paid him for what turned out to be a copy n paste, premined, scrypt coin. eg. I specifically asked for a fair launch sha-256 coin. I paid him even though the coin's specs were not what I requested them to be, trusting that he would make the neccessary adjustments. After 2-3 days, I got buyers remorse and informed muddafudda that I wanted out due to time constraints, among other reasons. I also trusted that he would be fair about things, so I initially left it up to him to decide how much of the 5 LTC was to be returned. After a week without a response, I pm'd him asking for 3 out of the 5 LTC paid.
In light of all this, I am now requesting that the entire 5 LTC be returned.
Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/muddafudda-104282
Amount Scammed:
5 LTC
Proof of Payment:
http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/161ac7ef38808b1d909db5e5d2ce3535671c2742532112550cbaaf3b911033af#o1
PM/Chat Logs:
I changed my mind about PoS and asked that we go with PoW and SHA, soon after this pm informing him about the coin's specifications.
Weeks later I get this..
Just tuned in on the part about stability. How so ?
And don't rush anything/ put yourself out. lol.. Launch won't be for another 2-3 or 7 days as I wanna be sure everything works and that the word gets out.
May as well get this out of the way..
5 LTC SENT !
Status: 1/unconfirmed, broadcast through 7 nodes
Date: 11/11/2013 15:27
To: VEG LL1TYuFw3564kgRzf8KK6vkAiSwnHMRVso
Debit: -5.00 LTC
Net amount: -5.00 LTC
Transaction ID: 161ac7ef38808b1d909db5e5d2ce3535671c2742532112550cbaaf3b911033af
Did you mean.. in a short week ?
Please return 3 LTC and we'll call it even.
LMVLfidTQcsemKieZYXnBm1epQTD9PcfPR
I know you have put some effort into it, so I'll let you decide how much of the 5 LTC should be returned.
You sent me $50 worth of LTC at the time, now you want $135 worth of LTC back. At a loss of $85 and my time??
I'm not asking its fiat value. lol Even if we were, 2 LTC / $85 is pretty damn good for a premined copy and paste job. Which btw, was not supposed to be a premined coin. I was very clear about that. Just based on that alone, I didn't get what we agreed on and should/could be asking for the entire 5 LTC, but I'm not.
Please refund 3 of the 5 LTC I sent you.
LMVLfidTQcsemKieZYXnBm1epQTD9PcfPR
Additional Notes:
When muddafudda approached me about setting me up with my own alt, he insisted that he would remain anonymous, thus not wanting anyone to associate him with this coin. He also bragged about having many coins with 'candygirls' acting as devs.
Uses the name Memecoin, when using the Cryptsy troll box.
I am very interested to hear from others who have had similar dealings with this character.
HT xD
Lets add attempted blackmail to the list.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/time-to-expose-the-liars-cheaters-and-scammers-429914
Since I received a lovely scammer tag from a scammer over the next few weeks I will be revealing every little bit of juicy goss that I came to know in the last 6 months.
I will expose everyone and leave no stone unturned.
Special thanks to Hippie_tech.
My suggestions if you have something to hide, contact Hippie_tech and get him to remove the scammer tag.
You have all been warned.
I will expose everyone and leave no stone unturned.
Special thanks to Hippie_tech.
My suggestions if you have something to hide, contact Hippie_tech and get him to remove the scammer tag.
You have all been warned.
What happened::
muddafudda has refused to refund 3 of the 5 LTC I paid him for what turned out to be a copy n paste, premined, scrypt coin. eg. I specifically asked for a fair launch sha-256 coin. I paid him even though the coin's specs were not what I requested them to be, trusting that he would make the neccessary adjustments. After 2-3 days, I got buyers remorse and informed muddafudda that I wanted out due to time constraints, among other reasons. I also trusted that he would be fair about things, so I initially left it up to him to decide how much of the 5 LTC was to be returned. After a week without a response, I pm'd him asking for 3 out of the 5 LTC paid.
In light of all this, I am now requesting that the entire 5 LTC be returned.
Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/muddafudda-104282
Amount Scammed:
5 LTC
Proof of Payment:
http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/161ac7ef38808b1d909db5e5d2ce3535671c2742532112550cbaaf3b911033af#o1
PM/Chat Logs:
I changed my mind about PoS and asked that we go with PoW and SHA, soon after this pm informing him about the coin's specifications.
Im waiting to hear back from NaNaec about the logo and other icons..
Name: Vegancoin
3 Letter Code: VEG
TotalCoins: unlimited
POS Stake as %: 2.1 per year
Days till POS Stake: 2.1
Block Rewards: 21 VEG, doubles every 64512 blocks or approx 32 weeks to a max 84 coins per block.
Block Times: 5 minute blocks, 21 confs for minted blocks/PoS, 3 confs for TXs
Port:2169
RPCPort:2170
No premine, fair start. Zero TX fees.
Id like to have the diff start at 0.021 - 0.21 so as to discourage easy-mining.
Block to block diff adjustments..
35 blocks and 5k ZET sounds more reasonable.
Name: Vegancoin
3 Letter Code: VEG
TotalCoins: unlimited
POS Stake as %: 2.1 per year
Days till POS Stake: 2.1
Block Rewards: 21 VEG, doubles every 64512 blocks or approx 32 weeks to a max 84 coins per block.
Block Times: 5 minute blocks, 21 confs for minted blocks/PoS, 3 confs for TXs
Port:2169
RPCPort:2170
No premine, fair start. Zero TX fees.
Id like to have the diff start at 0.021 - 0.21 so as to discourage easy-mining.
Block to block diff adjustments..
35 blocks and 5k ZET sounds more reasonable.
Weeks later I get this..
Vegancoin
Proof of Work/Proof of Stake Hybrid- Clone of CGB
Scrypt
Linear Difficulty Retarget (3 block retarget)
Mining Confirmations 41 Blocks
Transactions require 6 confirmations
5 Minute Block Times
Blocks 1-64512 = 21 VEG per;
Blocks 64512-139001 = 42 VEG per;
Blocks 139001-205001 = 63 VEG per;
Blocks 205001 = 84 VEG per;
Default P2P Port: 17888
Default RPC Port: 17889
I got it pretty close to what you wanted. Stole the logo off what you sent me.
Here is the source http://www.mediafire.com/?3b6gzv8p8l5yoja
Here is the windows qt link http://www.mediafire.com/?bd2oj0o52w1a25l
I have 2 nodes up, addnode=54.252.196.5 is the checkpoint server.
I had to mine 50 blocks to set up the checkpoint server.
Regards.
Proof of Work/Proof of Stake Hybrid- Clone of CGB
Scrypt
Linear Difficulty Retarget (3 block retarget)
Mining Confirmations 41 Blocks
Transactions require 6 confirmations
5 Minute Block Times
Blocks 1-64512 = 21 VEG per;
Blocks 64512-139001 = 42 VEG per;
Blocks 139001-205001 = 63 VEG per;
Blocks 205001 = 84 VEG per;
Default P2P Port: 17888
Default RPC Port: 17889
Code:
rpcuser=username
rpcpassword=password
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcconnect=127.0.0.1
DNSSEED=1
daemon=1
server=1
gen=0
testnet=0
listen=1
maxconnections=100
addnode=54.252.196.5
addnode=1.122.74.26
I got it pretty close to what you wanted. Stole the logo off what you sent me.
Here is the source http://www.mediafire.com/?3b6gzv8p8l5yoja
Here is the windows qt link http://www.mediafire.com/?bd2oj0o52w1a25l
I have 2 nodes up, addnode=54.252.196.5 is the checkpoint server.
I had to mine 50 blocks to set up the checkpoint server.
Regards.
Yeah, whatever.
If you need it tweaked, just change the code and I can rehash the genesis block. Make sure you tell me before release and ask any questions if you dont understand, forking is a bitch.
I picked cgb as its stable and you can follow the patches if need be. Current diff is "difficulty" : 0.01410277, at block 54.
Here is my whole vegancoin wallet http://www.mediafire.com/?3nlbk48qlxb3pn8 with the blocks in the chain and wallet. 10 coins stay in the checkpoint server. You will need a checkpoint update in about 8 weeks.
My nodes are still up. If you want a clean chain with zero blocks mined let me know as ill have to change the code and remove a checkpoint for the server. (24hr turnaround, very tired). This also reduces stability in the chain but its your call.
When you happy and dont need anything changed, send some ltc here. LTC LL1TYuFw3564kgRzf8KK6vkAiSwnHMRVso
If you need it tweaked, just change the code and I can rehash the genesis block. Make sure you tell me before release and ask any questions if you dont understand, forking is a bitch.
I picked cgb as its stable and you can follow the patches if need be. Current diff is "difficulty" : 0.01410277, at block 54.
Here is my whole vegancoin wallet http://www.mediafire.com/?3nlbk48qlxb3pn8 with the blocks in the chain and wallet. 10 coins stay in the checkpoint server. You will need a checkpoint update in about 8 weeks.
My nodes are still up. If you want a clean chain with zero blocks mined let me know as ill have to change the code and remove a checkpoint for the server. (24hr turnaround, very tired). This also reduces stability in the chain but its your call.
When you happy and dont need anything changed, send some ltc here. LTC LL1TYuFw3564kgRzf8KK6vkAiSwnHMRVso
Just tuned in on the part about stability. How so ?
And don't rush anything/ put yourself out. lol.. Launch won't be for another 2-3 or 7 days as I wanna be sure everything works and that the word gets out.
May as well get this out of the way..
5 LTC SENT !
Status: 1/unconfirmed, broadcast through 7 nodes
Date: 11/11/2013 15:27
To: VEG LL1TYuFw3564kgRzf8KK6vkAiSwnHMRVso
Debit: -5.00 LTC
Net amount: -5.00 LTC
Transaction ID: 161ac7ef38808b1d909db5e5d2ce3535671c2742532112550cbaaf3b911033af
Yo
Sorry to say but, I'm gonna have to back out from any involvement with Vegancoin. I have waaay too much on my plate and I need to learn a bit about coding before trying anything this technical.
The graveyard of shytecoins keeps growing.. the last thing I want is to be known for sprouting another IFC.
I know you have put some effort into it, so I'll let you decide how much of the 5 LTC should be returned.
LMVLfidTQcsemKieZYXnBm1epQTD9PcfPR
BlunderToe says he is vegan.. maybe I should run it by him ?
HT xD
p.s.
something tells me this coins-e thing is gonna blow up in alot of well known people's faces....
Sorry to say but, I'm gonna have to back out from any involvement with Vegancoin. I have waaay too much on my plate and I need to learn a bit about coding before trying anything this technical.
The graveyard of shytecoins keeps growing.. the last thing I want is to be known for sprouting another IFC.
I know you have put some effort into it, so I'll let you decide how much of the 5 LTC should be returned.
LMVLfidTQcsemKieZYXnBm1epQTD9PcfPR
BlunderToe says he is vegan.. maybe I should run it by him ?
HT xD
p.s.
something tells me this coins-e thing is gonna blow up in alot of well known people's faces....
No worries, will get back to you shortly.
Did you mean.. in a short week ?
Please return 3 LTC and we'll call it even.
LMVLfidTQcsemKieZYXnBm1epQTD9PcfPR
I know you have put some effort into it, so I'll let you decide how much of the 5 LTC should be returned.
You sent me $50 worth of LTC at the time, now you want $135 worth of LTC back. At a loss of $85 and my time??
I'm not asking its fiat value. lol Even if we were, 2 LTC / $85 is pretty damn good for a premined copy and paste job. Which btw, was not supposed to be a premined coin. I was very clear about that. Just based on that alone, I didn't get what we agreed on and should/could be asking for the entire 5 LTC, but I'm not.
Please refund 3 of the 5 LTC I sent you.
LMVLfidTQcsemKieZYXnBm1epQTD9PcfPR
Quite simply I will not give away money andif you go public I will post the response where it was up to me how much to return
In other words don't ever try extort me or anyone again
I would have given you the $ value back but since you have been an arse you will get nothing. In your words "I'll leave it up to you to decide". I decide nothing.
Additional Notes:
When muddafudda approached me about setting me up with my own alt, he insisted that he would remain anonymous, thus not wanting anyone to associate him with this coin. He also bragged about having many coins with 'candygirls' acting as devs.
Uses the name Memecoin, when using the Cryptsy troll box.
I am very interested to hear from others who have had similar dealings with this character.
HT xD
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