G20Meeting: "Crypto-assets do not pose risks to global financial stability"

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Quote from: BeruchN on March 19, 2018, 09:34:12 AM

Source: https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-g20-regulations-carney/g20-watchdog-focuses-on-rules-review-holds-fire-on-cryptocurrencies-idUKKBN1GU0SF

Do you think the market is responding to this? ETH and BTC both went up recently, even though the article reads more like FUD.

"For now, crypto-assets don’t pose risks to financial stability, partly because they are still small relative to the financial system. Even at their recent peak, their combined global market value was less than 1 percent of global economic output, the FSB said.
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What a bunch of ignorant fools.

...ok, well, they aren't, the heads of the 20 most powerful countries are definitely not fools.

But, in the world of crypto, they are.
The very nature of blockchain is meant to disrupt financial stability.
Taking a look at the "marketcap", seeing that it is less than 1 percent of global economic output and deciding that it's not a risk, is flat out stupid.

Well, as far as the market though, I doubt it affects or will affect the market that much.
What the market really needs is not some average joe deciding to buy a couple thousand dollars worth of btc because of a news segment he saw.
What we need is institutional money to jump in, and they are not phased by such petty squabbles.

The market is poised for a huge bull run, and as many see the last couple months as a "crash" an institutional investor will see this as stability and be more inclined to jump in.
so, I don't expect much from these types of announcements at all.

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Quote from: ModernReboot on March 20, 2018, 10:19:35 PM

I don't see how crypto ever threatens global financial stability. More access==more stability. but governments are wanting additional safeguards for sure. And panicking at new tech, as usual.

Maybe you are not seeing it but if that is the case is because you are lacking imagination, think about it, if cryptocurrencies ever become mainstream that means that the average person will have a way to move its money in a way that no government around the world will be able to interfere, there will be true freedom of movement when it comes to your money, and that has never existed so it's huge.

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This is great news, given the positive dynamics at this summit, we can say that the market will soon grow significantly.

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G20 advocated cryptocurrency in a positive vein, IMF also supported this trend. This is great news for us and for the future of the crypt.

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I don't see how crypto ever threatens global financial stability. More access==more stability. but governments are wanting additional safeguards for sure. And panicking at new tech, as usual.

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Quote from: BeruchN on March 19, 2018, 09:34:12 AM

Source: https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-g20-regulations-carney/g20-watchdog-focuses-on-rules-review-holds-fire-on-cryptocurrencies-idUKKBN1GU0SF

Do you think the market is responding to this? ETH and BTC both went up recently, even though the article reads more like FUD.

"For now, crypto-assets don’t pose risks to financial stability, partly because they are still small relative to the financial system. Even at their recent peak, their combined global market value was less than 1 percent of global economic output, the FSB said.
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It is very likely that the market is reacting to this, however it's very telling the wording they used in order to describe cryptocurrencies, they say cryptocurrencies are not a risk for now, that doesn't mean the cryptocurrencies are not going to become a risk in the future, but cryptocurrencies are not going to be a risk for the average person cryptocurrencies are going to be a risk for them and the scam they have been running for such a long time.

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Because the amount of digital encryption money is still small, it is difficult to have a significant impact on the world economy!

This is a good news, which shows that many countries still adhere to the development of digital encryption currency!

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Quote from: m.sidorichev on March 20, 2018, 05:28:37 AM

Quote from: BeruchN on March 19, 2018, 09:34:12 AM

Source: https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-g20-regulations-carney/g20-watchdog-focuses-on-rules-review-holds-fire-on-cryptocurrencies-idUKKBN1GU0SF

Do you think the market is responding to this? ETH and BTC both went up recently, even though the article reads more like FUD.

"For now, crypto-assets don’t pose risks to financial stability, partly because they are still small relative to the financial system. Even at their recent peak, their combined global market value was less than 1 percent of global economic output, the FSB said.
"

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Frankly speaking I haven't supposed anything great, new and fundamental from G20. Though they talk a lot it doesn't have much influence and very seldom comes to actions

Ha, there's probably some truth to this. Unfortunately (or fortunately right now) the pronouncements of these big entities move prices.

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Quote from: BeruchN on March 19, 2018, 09:34:12 AM

Source: https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-g20-regulations-carney/g20-watchdog-focuses-on-rules-review-holds-fire-on-cryptocurrencies-idUKKBN1GU0SF

Do you think the market is responding to this? ETH and BTC both went up recently, even though the article reads more like FUD.

"For now, crypto-assets don’t pose risks to financial stability, partly because they are still small relative to the financial system. Even at their recent peak, their combined global market value was less than 1 percent of global economic output, the FSB said.
"

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Frankly speaking I haven't supposed anything great, new and fundamental from G20. Though they talk a lot it doesn't have much influence and very seldom comes to actions

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Yeah of course,cryptocurrencies is still in its infancy that is why these bankers wont get alarmed very easy,the total marketcap hasnt reached 1 trillion in total so why would cryptocurrencies will alarm these banks? well the technology theoretically could replace the cash in the future but it doesnt mean that it is in the near future,it could be years or decades from now.

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it's a good news, but I don't think it's much of a reflection on the market.

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This statement was more like "they may pose risk to global financial stability after they pass that %1". I don't really think it is good. This will probably affect markets to rise but in future they may try to pull the plug.

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Quote from: BeruchN on March 19, 2018, 09:34:12 AM

Source: https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-g20-regulations-carney/g20-watchdog-focuses-on-rules-review-holds-fire-on-cryptocurrencies-idUKKBN1GU0SF

Do you think the market is responding to this? ETH and BTC both went up recently, even though the article reads more like FUD.

"For now, crypto-assets don’t pose risks to financial stability, partly because they are still small relative to the financial system. Even at their recent peak, their combined global market value was less than 1 percent of global economic output, the FSB said.
"

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Of course it isnt a risk yet,the total marketcap of cryptocurrency is still less than 1% of the total marketcap of fiat,that is why it doesnt post a threat to any of the banks in the world,maybe in the future but not now as cryptocurrencies are still in its infancy period as it grows banks will see how the cryptocurrencies will be a big threat to them.

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Quote from: HardFireMiner on March 20, 2018, 03:49:20 AM

Check it up, THE US 2018 JOINT ECONOMIC REPORT:

https://www.congress.gov/115/crpt/hrpt596/CRPT-115hrpt596.pdf

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Conclusions
Technology presents evolving challenges and generates new
solutions. Blockchain technology essentially stores and transmits
data securely, in large volume, and at high speeds. So far, the
technology has proved largely resistant to hacking, and given this
feature, developers first applied it to digital currencies. Yet
blockchain has many more potential applications, such as portable
medical records and securing the critical financial and energy
infrastructure that the Report identified.
Recommendations
-Policymakers and the public should become more familiar
with digital currencies and other uses of blockchain technology,
which have a wide range of applications in the future.
-Regulators should continue to coordinate among each
other to guarantee coherent policy frameworks,
definitions, and jurisdiction.
-Policymakers, regulators, and entrepreneurs should
continue to work together to ensure developers can deploy
these new blockchain technologies quickly and in a
manner that protects Americans from fraud, theft, and
abuse, while ensuring compliance with relevant
regulations.
-Government agencies at all levels should consider and
examine new uses for this technology that could make the
government more efficient in performing its functions.

It can not be regulated unless you regulate the internet to access it..that's the whole point that is fking govenrments and banks both...so since the west is not China .. internet access wont be regulated and we can buy and sell BTC as we want....
They can try and tax the profit...and maybe how much money you can put into it ,,but buying and selling and moving it can only be done by the owner....thats pretty much it.
They tax all profit so why not BTC. I am saying they can not regulate BTC unless they ban internet. All the experts here is welcome to correct me if they can come up with a way to regulate BTC worldwide. Would make for a great discussion.

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Check it up, THE US 2018 JOINT ECONOMIC REPORT:

https://www.congress.gov/115/crpt/hrpt596/CRPT-115hrpt596.pdf

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Conclusions
Technology presents evolving challenges and generates new
solutions. Blockchain technology essentially stores and transmits
data securely, in large volume, and at high speeds. So far, the
technology has proved largely resistant to hacking, and given this
feature, developers first applied it to digital currencies. Yet
blockchain has many more potential applications, such as portable
medical records and securing the critical financial and energy
infrastructure that the Report identified.
Recommendations
-Policymakers and the public should become more familiar
with digital currencies and other uses of blockchain technology,
which have a wide range of applications in the future.
-Regulators should continue to coordinate among each
other to guarantee coherent policy frameworks,
definitions, and jurisdiction.
-Policymakers, regulators, and entrepreneurs should
continue to work together to ensure developers can deploy
these new blockchain technologies quickly and in a
manner that protects Americans from fraud, theft, and
abuse, while ensuring compliance with relevant
regulations.
-Government agencies at all levels should consider and
examine new uses for this technology that could make the
government more efficient in performing its functions.

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In fact they can not say anything else because they fear the outflow of capital associated with cryptocurrencies to other countries.

Max Likelihood

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Finally, some people who aren't alarmist.

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Quote from: Nagricoin on March 19, 2018, 09:14:57 PM

Waiting for the green zone)

Due to the good news on the G20 meeting in which the members of G20 attending this summit had come up with a statement that cryptocurrency does not pose any risk to the global financial stability which is actually gaining a positive impact on the crypto market where it started to go green right after. Then, investors of the cryptocurrency again were back on track resulting to make a positive growth that is happening in the current market.

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Waiting for the green zone)

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Yeah for sure. it is affecting market a little bit and it is turn it green, it is a good news to cryptos and I wish more of the news to come to cryptos, it will make the market to boom and bullish.

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I think good news will boost the exchange market. After this meeting the market will be green.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on March 19, 2018, 10:08:59 AM

Quote from: BeruchN on March 19, 2018, 09:34:12 AM

Do you think the market is responding to this? ETH and BTC both went up recently, even though the article reads more like ~~FUD~~.

More like FOMO, not ~~FUD~~ if a certain news makes price rise. But the news is genuine and coins are responding positively to it already since morning today. There is a thread here that outlined the perceptions of the attending countries for the ongoing G20 summit here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32665435

Good point, this is definitely great news for crypto and will probably cause bull trends.

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Quote from: cpoer2011 on March 19, 2018, 10:05:45 AM

That's a very good news but we should wait till the G20 summit ended and decide what they will do with crypto assets. I will wait for what happen next from G20 summit, I hope it's good news for crypto assets world.

That is a positive development that they would not emposed regulations to ICO’s and bitcoin users because it has only small impact to the world economy the good thing is it has the roam for improvement.

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Quote from: HardFireMiner on March 19, 2018, 09:49:29 AM

Good news indeed! I didn't know we broke the 1% value of global economic output, actually that's amazing!

Next bull trend will take how much? 10%? Maybe the whole 25%?!

yeah , it shows that if crypto adopted globally on large basis .
then we have too much potential for all coins to grow ..

we are just 1% of global output .

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Quote from: Aminmon on March 19, 2018, 10:01:43 AM

It seems that this is not a FUD, this is a real message.
Since the size of the cryptocurrency market is still small, it is not a real threat at the moment, so the G20 meeting did not discuss the bad news about the cryptocurrency market too much.

But on the other hand, aren't they somewhat underestimating crypto?

If it's not a threat now, it'll definitely be in the near future I think

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Quote from: BeruchN on March 19, 2018, 09:34:12 AM

Do you think the market is responding to this? ETH and BTC both went up recently, even though the article reads more like ~~FUD~~.

More like FOMO, not ~~FUD~~ if a certain news makes price rise. But the news is genuine and coins are responding positively to it already since morning today. There is a thread here that outlined the perceptions of the attending countries for the ongoing G20 summit here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32665435

Edited for clarification purpose
FOMO means Fear Of Missing Out. As the term suggests, a coin rises sharply in value and investors take steps rushing in to buy so as not to miss the boat.

FUD means Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. This is usually a negative fear of holding onto a losing coin. So, investors quickly sell off either in gain or loss.

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The first good news in weeks for crypto! Hopefully more good news will follow so that the prices can start going up again.

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That's a very good news but we should wait till the G20 summit ended and decide what they will do with crypto assets. I will wait for what happen next from G20 summit, I hope it's good news for crypto assets world.

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It seems that this is not a FUD, this is a real message.
Since the size of the cryptocurrency market is still small, it is not a real threat at the moment, so the G20 meeting did not discuss the bad news about the cryptocurrency market too much.

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I can't imagine why people are happy that there will be no regulation.
Why do you want to invest in an environment where your money can get stollen and you cant do nothing about it. With regulations will come and some protection for investors and maybe scam ICO will disappear.
I sure hope that my country will do something about this so that I can pay my taxes and benefit from my profit without having to "look over the shoulder".

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Quote from: kevoh on March 19, 2018, 09:54:55 AM

Quote from: BeruchN on March 19, 2018, 09:34:12 AM

Source: https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-g20-regulations-carney/g20-watchdog-focuses-on-rules-review-holds-fire-on-cryptocurrencies-idUKKBN1GU0SF

Do you think the market is responding to this? ETH and BTC both went up recently, even though the article reads more like FUD.

"For now, crypto-assets don’t pose risks to financial stability, partly because they are still small relative to the financial system. Even at their recent peak, their combined global market value was less than 1 percent of global economic output, the FSB said.
"

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I have read the G20 article thrice now including the French version, I am yet to see anything related to FUD. FUD will not make Bitcoin price respond to the news article by going up a $1000 immediately it was published.

You are only reading the latest news from G20 but if you are watching the whole discussions in various communities and there is a lot of people are speaking and talking about the rumour of G20 will be banning crypto, and that was total bullshit.

This article was to counter all of the lousy rumour and news to spread FUD to all of the crypto users.

Please read all of the news carefully. And you will get a lot of FUD from there.

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Glad that this news came out . I wouldn't say this was the sole reason for the dip but was part of reason.i hope that people start believing in crypto and the market recovers after the good news

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Quote from: tokeweed on March 19, 2018, 09:46:31 AM

^ I'd say that's good news imo, considering all the FUD about regulations and crackdowns coming out recently. At least every project is given some breathing room and should take advantage of it to get their legal sh*t together...

Yeah I think this is great news. Finally good to see the market responding to good news!

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Quote from: BeruchN on March 19, 2018, 09:34:12 AM

Source: https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-g20-regulations-carney/g20-watchdog-focuses-on-rules-review-holds-fire-on-cryptocurrencies-idUKKBN1GU0SF

Do you think the market is responding to this? ETH and BTC both went up recently, even though the article reads more like FUD.

"For now, crypto-assets don’t pose risks to financial stability, partly because they are still small relative to the financial system. Even at their recent peak, their combined global market value was less than 1 percent of global economic output, the FSB said.
"

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I have read the G20 article thrice now including the French version, I am yet to see anything related to FUD. FUD will not make Bitcoin price respond to the news article by going up a $1000 immediately it was published.

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Finally some good news for once. Definitely a bull trend!

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Good news indeed! I didn't know we broke the 1% value of global economic output, actually that's amazing!

Next bull trend will take how much? 10%? Maybe the whole 25%?!

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^ I'd say that's good news imo, considering all the FUD about regulations and crackdowns coming out recently. At least every project is given some breathing room and should take advantage of it to get their legal sh*t together...

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Source: https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-g20-regulations-carney/g20-watchdog-focuses-on-rules-review-holds-fire-on-cryptocurrencies-idUKKBN1GU0SF

Do you think the market is responding to this? ETH and BTC both went up recently, even though the article reads more like FUD.

"For now, crypto-assets don’t pose risks to financial stability, partly because they are still small relative to the financial system. Even at their recent peak, their combined global market value was less than 1 percent of global economic output, the FSB said.
"

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