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Hello everyone, there were a lot of doubts and feedbacks, I wrote down all the feedbacks and to clarify some doubts I left a list below with information

1-I am not selling the site.
2-I didn't ask for advance investment, this was clarified in the telegram.
3-I only opened space for those who want to have a casino and want to manage it, but no advance deposit was requested before the official launch.
4-I already got partnerships and an investment of 22 btc to assemble a team of developers and improve the project.
5-The design will be the same, but there are other games in development, I want to be objective that this is not a beauty salon but a betting site project.
6-The project presented is just a draft, keeping the real codes, because it's not time to launch it yet.
7-Everyone will be able to see the casino officially on the website luckyplayers.io launched on April 22 at 04:00 am gmt.
8-All projects prior to this one were modified and are in the legalization phase and are not the same as this one.
9-The licensing process for this casino is already underway and will be presented on the 22nd as scheduled.
10-Any new administration partnership was terminated, as we already have 3 new team members.
11- If you are a design and want to send a suggestion send me a pm on telegram, you will receive a great bonus if your design is accepted by our standards.
12-Thanks to everyone who contributed to this topic, the real objective of attracting attention has been completed, this is marketing  , we'll see you soon.

Sincerely Luizxind

Hello, your question is very interesting, and let me explain, both luckyplayers and newgames are my domains, and I use them to receive feedbacks and develop them, but the casino is just one, and there are things I haven't posted to let the mood down out of curiosity.

Hello, yes I sold the creative rights but they were reformulated and are in the licensing phase before starting to operate.  

Everything is great, but there is one moment. The most difficult thing is to drive game traffic, all new casinos face this. The turnover with such a casino is likely to be low.
Now there are top casinos with dice games and different slot providers. It will be difficult to compete with them.

It somewhat sounds like to me that you are looking for investors first and foremost. Why would someone invest into the online gambling casino and then have to manage it? Are you planning on compensating the managing work with equity or cash? You might want to add a few more details on the casino, what has been done in the past, which results you have so far reached and who is working with you.

Unless you can provide more info, this does not sound like something which would interest investors very much...

I don't know what other people have said, but if I must be sincere with you, then I did say that if I was you, I would have choosed to work on something else other than a casino, my reason is because there are alot of online casinos already, and very big ones at that, it will be very difficult for new casinos (most especially the poorly developed ones) to come.
In this kind of business where competition will be very high, you will need a very highly developed and competitive casino as well as alot of money for marketing, in other to get a chance of being noticed, and from my observations, your casino is poorly developed (am sincerely sorry to say this but it's the truth), and I also don't perceive you as someone who has the kind of money required to properly promote this casino, how do you plan to this casino popular amongst the several casinos already listed on this forum.?

Based on his old post, lucky players.io is also his own product so basiclly it is just a rename or rebrand but he forget to update all.
Looking at how the site looks like regardless it is a clone of other casino, it looks so bad for a new casino and I doubt investors will be interested.
I do even doubt that no one will be interested to spend few bucks to plat in this new casino.

This seems like a disaster waiting to happen. If the owner of this site cannot fix basic things like setting a page title from "Undefined" and knowing the the correct spelling for "Roll" is not "Rool" then you should have zero faith in their ability to keep a casino online. Either you're going to end up doing all the hard work to turn this into a prosperous site, at which point it'll be sold or your admin abilities get removed, in the "best" case scenario. What's more likely to happen is a real or staged hack will end up taking place after a small amount of depositors have placed a fair amount of money into the site. Even if it did start to take off, it's going to be the target of relentless campaigns to take the site down and this owner doesn't strike me as having the financial resources to fight back.

You will be having a hard time getting investors, I thought at first that you were looking for workers but I was wrong. Good luck on finding people to support you because your site is poorly made. Hats off to what you have achieved until now, creating an online casino needs people, partners and funds in the first place and you should have gone to meet them personally. Unless there will be a person who will believe in your cause and somehow gave you funds to acquire everything you need to make your plans running.

if you want to find a partner for your site you need first of all a reputable escrow for that funds.
no one could trust a site without track record or without reputable users/team behind.
more over, did you have planned some promotions? it's full of casinos nowadays, if your site is not known I doubt there is ROI.
if you are not able to guarantee such information that are essential for a business like that I have doubt this is a good investment

Tried to check your site but seems that the name of the site is not newgames.cc same as the domain name but lucky players it to see for myself rather than looking at the image you provided. As what previous post said about your self developed casino that is a bit similar to luckyplayers.io is not a good start as many people will think that you created your site not because you are going to make it but because you made it because you copied someone else's design. Well, that would change once you proved them wrong.

No, it's not a self-made casino it's a clone script of luckyplayers.io, check the footer and you will still see the luckyplayers.io mark I don't know if he overlooked it or OP does not know how to configure or edit the script, if he is a good webmaster he will make it unique even if it is a clone script but it's a copy cat of another casino, not worth investing you'll likely to lose money.
 

I visited the gambling website and noticed on how incomplete the website is. Like what most have also pointed out, the part where you are asking for a "manager" for administration does not equate to your thread, as you are looking for an investor. When you mean by a manager, it somehow implies that he/she will manage or be under the administration of managing the affairs of some gamblers.

One last thing to point out, what you need is an investor and a web-designer. Though I acknowledge your effort in creating this self-made website, it still needs a lot of work in order to compete with the titans of gambling websites available in the internet. Good luck, OP.

I also thought you are just looking for an admin for your site.
I looked around your site, it is not good, just pure honesty. I think you have to be more serious on the development of your gambling site before you look for your investors. I believe you will have a hard time looking for any investor if your site is like that. Can't even log in, create an account, play anything. Regardless, goodluck

The website doesn't look bad but I think it can be improved. Asking someone 0.01 BTC to be the admin of your site was not a bad idea, what are the perks of being an admin aside from 0.00005 BTC monthly? for me it's not being an admin but being an investor. What are the things that admin can do?

Count me in if it is a job and I would earn from being an admin in your online casino but if do you mean you would hire me as an admin and I need to invest then I am not sure I would like to be an admin since it looks like I would be going on a job but instead I would pay you. I think there was some misunderstanding here I think you are looking for an investor that would be a co-owner of your gambling site.

ya.ya.yo!

I am not sure are you looking for a team member and you wanted them to invest 0.01 BTC or are you specifically looking for an investor? I think you can let them invest in the bankroll of your casino aside from looking for someone to join your team and invest at first I thought you are looking for a moderator in your gambling site.

By the way I do like the screenshot from your casino, it looks good for me.

it is , lol .. the title is really not looking for managers/admins instead this is a investment offering in which OP is not trust worthy and the Casino offers nothing new instead traditional games that we can all find in normal casino so why need to drop into this when there are many casino that offers investment option, there are even has passive income that supports casino sites.
so I know that there are no even one member of the community that will have interest in this kind of approach .

I do not want to risk 0.01 btc to be an admin of the gambling site because I do not have experience managing a business website, just as a writer on a personal blog. Besides that, I think the return is too small, so I do not know if that offer will interest others in joining you. After all, how we can know that the site will give a return every month? I think you should run the site first, see how good the progress so you can offer it to people and show the results from your site.

This is hilarious.
If I understand this "offer" correctly,basically OP is offering someone to "invest" in his shit casino in order to get hired as an admin.What's the point? Who would want to be an admin of a crypto casino for free?Is the "admin" going to get paid a salary for his work(other than the "dividend" from his "investment")?
OP can fire the "admin" after a day or two and just run away with the coins.
This is either a scam method or just a really weird business idea(that simply won't work).
This is not how you do business and build trust in the cryptocurrency gambling industry.

Is it just me .... or did he spell the word "Roll" wrong? ..... What does "Rool" mean? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rool says it means :  To raggle; to ruffle....? ....and raggle means .....  "A groove or slot, often cut in a masonry wall or other vertical surface, for inserting an inset flashing component such as a reglet." 

Is this some type of gambling slang that I do not know? In any way... this looks like a template of another casino that are just used to get investors to invest their money. 

I looked at your website, and it seemed very normal to me, although I don't think your work is done yet. The website needs to be more attractive to attract people, and hopefully more games will be added. 0.0005 BTC per month, that is a 5% commission is very low. This is the aspect you need to keep in mind .

Indeed mate, He is looking for manager but at the same time is Investors and meaning this a sugar coated thread.

and also knowing that OP is just a low rank account and has no history in this forum of any good effect.
Surely if he will just put in title of what he really tend to find then maybe he will not gather many clickers .
0.0005 per month and you need to invest? no manager will take this seriously when they can earn without risking their funds.

This is a bad business proposal the site is a clone script and there's no player playing here, there's no guarantee that you will get your profit back or even the commission, the hardest part is marketing, you are not really an admin here but an investor and investor has no guaranty of profit, especially in the gambling niche where competition is very tight

You are not looking for administration but investor that's different, administration expecting salary while investor giving money to develope the project and get a profit from the investment
if you don't have enough funds to develop the casino it would be better to keep selling the casino website as you have done before, casino competition is very tight, marketing funds and buying licenses require large funds

The title of your thread is a bit misleading, because apart from a manager, you are looking for an investor, even if it is a small investment.

As you will see, there are several doubts about the project, and those of us who have commented so far do not seem willing to invest.

If you are looking for a manager, why do you want him to invest 2% of the cost? Just pay him a salary, in relation to the profits if you want.

I understand that the commission that the manager would get, is apart from the salary, isn't it? I don't think anyone is going to work as a manager for 0.0005 btc per month.

5% commission per month? why would people invest in that so small profit when they can earn much higher even in staking at some legit exchange?

and also a Member rank account asking for investment ? Am not sure if there will be someone interested dealing with such account.

But hope your business will reach its goal as Gambling community nowadays really increasing and there are even newly opened site almost every day.

I don't think it's gonna work, the casino is poorly created and don't have anything new to compete with existing casino. I know build a casino from scratch must be not easy thing, but my point isn't wrong. You need to work hard to make the UI/UX better and there's no guarantee your casino will popular too. Asking someone to invest on poor new created sites, you wouldn't find anyone will interested.

That 0.5BTC will only cover the gambling license since the average cost of Curacao license is more over 20,000$. Based on the look of the website that OP developing. The Casino somehow offers the typical house game that composed of dice, crash games and other simple games. I doubt OP will plan to get a license on this early stage and also seriously speaking, there’s a lot of huge casino that offering investment in there Bankroll so investing on casino like this is just a joke or waste of time to be consider.

As much as I wanted to partly become an owner of a casino, I wouldn't even think that 0.01BTC can get somewhere. This would mean a lot of us will own this casino, there will be a lot of problems to come. Not to discourage you, you are doing great.

I admire OP for creating a casino of his own from scratch, it's definitely an achievement. It isn't complete yet but it must feel amazing to almost have done it. Just a little bit more so congrats.

I'm not that familiar with building an online casino from scratch, but is 0.5 BTC enough for everything? I mean, from the development itself to registration and licensing to promotion and others? While it is not really a requirement for a crypto casino to be completely licensed, it must be a big factor for players and partners and software providers that they are dealing with a legally recognized casino. And normally, casinos are licensed offshore. That must cost you a lot.

And about partnerships, doesn't it include some kind of contract or agreement?

I'd honestly suggest creating a team-first that could review and offer opinions and reviews to your site before anything else. UI is a very integral part of what users see when they visit your site and it's usually one of the basis they use to judge your casino, and judging from your screenshot, it's not looking good. I know it's a self-developed project, but that's all the more reason to spend more time reviewing the casino and developing it into a much better site instead of rushing development.

I also saw from your post history that you sold sites prior to this as well, honestly, it just looks the same. Recolored and the like, UI still looks pretty bad. It's kinda rude to prior buyers since it's almost a reskinned site of theirs imo.

Yeah, I think OP needs to hear those words since he was just promising without making sure how he would get those commission if in the first place there are no traffic and players on his casino. Being a stakeholders won't make you gain profit for an underdeveloped casino maybe OP need to do some research on how to gain trust from stakeholders.

Promising something is just a word. I myself want to be an admin too but not like this.

We all want to be an admin of a casino but not a newly created casino with a questionable script, there's no guarantee with your own words that you will work on the development of the script, it's risky being part of the project it's better to fully develop it and work on getting players until it is a trusted casino, then you can invite people to be a part-owner of your casino.

OP, you have to relay every information you got there to convince your future partner/s. Try to include as much as stuff related to your proposal in an attempt to attract and invite some investors. It's really hard to get a partner here so I will just say, good luck finding one.


In fairness to OP, the statement is very clear.

Of course, OP will look at someone who is familiar with how managing a casino works, and to make the partnership very official, that person will have to risk some of their money as in the end, they are the ones who will manage the casino in the long-run.


On that particular topic, OP can instead have a feature of a bankroll investment program.

You can compare this to an ICO where devs are asking for funds which in the end the investors could just expect return that never comes. If it was just 2016, 0.5BTC will just be a small amount but today is 2022 which BTC is more than $20K.

If its just cheap as investing tokens of the casino, there may be a chance to invest just small amount. There are casinos that do release tokens, its probably something to consider although don't expect too much.

This is 21 century I don't think it's going to be that possible that people will easily buy into this idea  without them seeing proof of work, So since you have gotten to that level of development, it will be nice you finish it up by yourself , and show proof of work in this case anyone who wants to partner with you will see much reason to do so. Maybe if don't have much money to finish it up ,I advise you go for borrowing since you believe in your work.

The site is not properly configured based on what I see outside there is still the word on the homepage and obviously, you are using a clone script of luckyplayers.io, and the homepage describes the site that is very similar to  luckyplayers.io ,
Some page is not clickable and there's no FAQ and no TOS, this is a new site and it's not worth investing here as we don't know if this kind of script will work fine.

Looking at the UI of the site, it is the same as what you tried to sell last January. You sold 4 sites already per your claim, and now you have new other one with exactly the same script but with a bit different color theme? I'm curious, if you have sold 4 where are those buyers? I havent seen any new sites that looks similar to what you have sold, are those buyers bought your product but they did nothing with it? Sorry to say but I have to be honest here, I think you have not sold even one on January. Although you get a new domain (newgames.cc), but the name of the site remain the same as what you tried to sell "luckyplayers". Can you explain?

I thought that you're just looking for an admin to help you manage the casino. But you're not just looking for that one.
But you're looking for a 2 in 1 person, an investor and an admin. I think it's a good idea that you've put into that, making your investor be part of the management. As said and suggested, you're starting out and I think you'll be having hard time to look for that person who's willing to invest 0.01BTC on this.
Anyway, maybe it will help you out to give those details and summary of how many players your casino is getting daily and that could give the idea for those interested investors. Good luck mate.

^ To be honest, this is expected of the investors, there is a doubt of course and it seems you will get hard to find investors not unless that investor knows you personally. It is not easy to build trust and as we can see that was the aim of most gambling casinos that were here.
However, good luck with your business and hope you will find someday good investors that can increase your bankroll which is very important.

When investing, people expect it to be profitable, otherwise it makes no sense to start the investment.

You are asking for 0.01 btc with returns of 0.0005 btc per month. In other words, it will take 20 months for this investor to recover the investment.

It's a risky deal, because the investor will have to give 100% of this money and only after those 20 months the initial sum of money will be recovered on his hands. Meanwhile, there are another investment alternatives on the market, including the well known casino bankroll investment, where investors don't need to pay a fee or buy an admin position to start receiving interest over their funds, which can be entirely withdrawn at any time, plus interest generated.

I think this approach would be more interesting for you as a casino owner trying to increase your bankroll.

with so many good casinos today, would be hard to attract players from a seemingly substandard casino. because people won't trust the site, that's a fact. first and foremost, they want to know if the casino has enough bankroll to start with. and that is why it is important to secure those funds from private investors. maybe, the OP can pitch this project to his colleagues with a lot of money. because if they believe that this gonna go thru, they will invest on this project.

Plus for the above post. The website still poorly created. You think it can compete to these existing casinos? No hate just fact, I bet this will only close sooner if the design and other thinks will not improve. Plus, you need enough balance to start a casino business to compensate the winner which I don't think you have since you're finding stakeholders.

If you want to sell this software make it fit to be offered for sale, and for the looks of it i don't think the cost of this will be >$20,000. Well, there are still rooms for improvement, you can still do better.

I think it's great to see a self-developed gambling platform from the ground up. But offering anyone to be a stakeholder of an unlicensed and unfinished platform is just non-sense. How can they invest on something that promised a commission if the platform they will invest doesn't even have players or traffic and even the database connection is off upon visiting the link? I don't meant to discourage but offering something for such platforms won't really work UNLESS you will work as a developer for a company THAT will obtain/own your work credits and would pay you more monthly by maintaining it. The project developer > investor relationship never works as projects doesn't includes licenses, legal works, and other aspects than the backend/front end development. You need a Company/Investor with> legal / support / marketing / dev teams which has> devs and etc --- kind of administration, not the other way around.

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