Topic: Gambling addiction causes ear deafness? (Read 532 times)

I thought this is literally speaking about deafness due to some ear disability or being affected because of such gambling activity knowing that most of us nowadays when we are on a pc which we do really have those head phones and i do thought that this was the cause but well i was wrong and for sure there are people who had though the same thing. 

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Speaking about having that rejecting or ignoring advises around you and when someone is telling you that you are already doing that much with gambling or simply considered to be addict.Then you should
really make up some realizations that you should really be stopping along the way because people wont really be telling something if they do saw that you are really still that in good control towards yourself.

People would usually be quitting or stopping gambling or something when they do really come into a situation on which everything is already that been affected. I have known someone
in my friends ending up with addiction but i didnt bother on giving up some advises since its his money then i dont really like on being scolded out that i shouldnt really be trying out to show off some concern
or just simply minding off my own business.

My friend your title is very misleading and the original post doesn't contain anything related to deafness. Deafness is a physical disability and I don't think that gambling could cause deafness in anyone even if they are absolute addicts. The gamblers often avoid those people who try to stop them from gambling activity and that doesn't makes them deaf. Those gamblers can hear all the words of the one who is trying to show them the bad nature of gambling. They avoid those people intentionally because they can't stop themselves from gambling.

I have seen such gamblers who would never listen to anyone even if the one who is trying to stop them is their own biological father. The gamblers are so addicted into it that they will spend a lot of money on it and they don't care even if they lose everything. They aren't deaf or anything else but have no self-discipline to avoid gambling activities. The addicts will leave the addiction if something more interesting than gambling becomes part of their life. Other than that they won't listen anyone and will continue their gambling activities without any fear or regret.

Addiction is more powerful than you think my friend, maybe you would really have to agree with me that addiction is a spirit, it lives in and controls the mind of its victim, and where it becomes even worst is if the mind of the victim is weaker and can not think on its own and counter some of the things the addicting spirit is telling it to do, this is where the whole deafness thing comes into play, the gambler in real sense is not actually deaf, and neither does he or she don't want to listing to advices coming from friend and relative, its just that the victim have other voices speaking to him or her, and those voices seems more powerful and is in Control, and the victim have not the mental ability to say no to it.

This is exactly what is happening that the ordinary eyes cannot see, and some minds find difficult to comprehend either.

When I first read your subject, I thought that something new is discovered about gambling addiction but later when I read more details, I laughed at your sarcasm. You're right on the spot on this analysis. Not only does gambling addiction make you deaf, it also steals the power of your mind to understand right or wrong.

The gambler addiction fails to recognize that they are doing wrong and if someone tries to give them advice, they tend to be unhappy with them, and depending upon who has advised them, they may start misbehaving with them. Sometimes I feel that arguing with gambling addicted people is like yelling at a deaf person.

Which is true, they will not bother to listen as addiction already dominates inside their brain, they will continue what they think is good for them, most of the time they only hear what they want and they will just disregard any other things that will not fit to their interest, the only thing that might let them think if they already lost everything and they already seek help in resolving their problems, not all can realize that as regrets always happen at the end of the line.

One question is does gamblers really seek to maintain control over their lives?  If so, we cannot see gamblers being addicted to gambling.  Gamblers just don't want to be blamed or give time to people who are judgemental about their activities being bad,   Aside from that, gambling addict don't want to be disturbed when they are in the state of gambling nor they wanted to be stopped since gambling addict already lost their control and succumbed to the urge of gambling.

Gamblers are afraid of being judged by others. Therefore, they do not want to accept help from other people and do not recognize their dependence. Gamblers seek to maintain control over their lives and do not want to depend on the help of others. If you want to help your loved one get rid of the game addiction, then never give up. The gambler will have to accept your help sooner or later.

I think that evil spiritualistic forces have nothing to do with it. It is rather a feature of human psychology - to be blind to your habits. We cannot live without social evaluation, such is our human nature. And if a person closes himself in, he does not see his degradation. For example, most single men at an older age stop taking care of themselves or cleaning the apartment properly.

Gambling is even worst - it makes a habit in weak-willed people, which quickly destroys this person if no one tells him that it's time to end it. Only a few people can say - I really got into a bad situation, I need to work on myself. At this moment, you need to admit that you were losing, admit that now it can't go on like this. Also recognize that you will always have the habit of playing in the casino, and you need to be careful.

Yes among those who are addicted there are those who really do not realize that they are addicted, however controlling it is quite difficult even though the family reminds him, no matter how hard they will not listen, but I think it returns to the character of the person himself, if the person is stubborn it will be very It's hard to make it aware.

The situation is indeed worse, but I don't think it's can not to help, but it's hard to help because it has a narrow understanding. It might even be worse, those who realize it but cannot control their own drivers.

I think it only happens to a narrow -minded gambler and wants money easily from gambling, in contrast to those of us who only make gambling places to play to look for pleasure alone without regard to winning or losing, so that they have awareness in forming financial management or have a limit in gambling .


That might be a good concern step, but I think it will be useless if his addiction is severe he will be more deaf than deaf people, I think that can stop it when he can't make money and himself, and maybe you can help manage his finances, rehabilitation becomes A better advice to handle cases like this.

This happened to my friend and until now I still advise him but it hasn't worked because after listening to my advice he keeps doing it again, but sometimes my advice makes him annoyed and angry, which actually I just feel sorry for him, because the money he makes is very important to him .
and finally i got bored and i let him be like that, because when he wins he is good and also royal. And I think there will come a time when an addict will stop, because it all depends on the intention and if the intention is real it will definitely work. At least it can reduce addiction, because if there is no real intention to give any advice, nothing will work.

People who are enjoying what they do tend to close their senses to advice and reminders. We can compare it to a person who is in love. Despite all the advice of people around him/her because of the red flags and negative things that people can see, that person is blinded and just focus on what he/she feels. Same with gambling, a person isn't willing to listen if he likes gambling and has a deeper goal to achieve. He is not open to any corrections and advice because he focuses on what makes him happy.
However, it will not last long because once he encounters a failure, he will then realize his mistake of not listening to good reminders. If we have these kinds of friends and loved ones, I hope we wouldn't get tired of reminding them of what the right thing to do is. They may not listen to us but at least, we are doing our part.

This seems to be in a fairly acute condition and conditions like this in my opinion are not a matter of him not being able to stop but indeed not wanting to stop gambling. regardless of whether it is addicted or not this will obviously not be easy because indeed in this case he does not want to stop gambling even though he has been reminded by the closest family.
This is what makes things worse because even this will not be cured even if it is brought to the expert because the gambler seems to refuse and still wants to do gambling.
Now with something like this, the only way is how he realizes because that's what makes him able to come back, as long as he doesn't realize then he will certainly reject all forms of efforts that make him stop gambling.

It's strange to associate deafness with gambling when it's much more likely to be triggered by other causes. I find it hard to think of a scenario where somebody could be playing casino type games for that long and at that high of a volume that it would cause this to occur. It definitely made me think of the trigger noises that casino's often use to keep players alert and chasing "reward" type sounds as they are playing along. There might be some bigger issue at fault though if someone is so focused that they're blocking out external sounds.

Turning a deaf ears in gambling does not have to necessarily have the gambler with the deformity of a blocked ear, such gambler will not just listen to every positive advise to help his gambling experience or career in life because they think they know the best and stands not to be corrected, alot of people found under this category had been left out without much effort on them for change unless they personally wish to.

Because its still destructive behavior and restrictions maybe made just to aid up other non addicted gambler also to new one to came at this point. I really understand why government do some harsh actions towards  it since somehow gambling addiction can harm anyone especially when they think about doing crimes just to earn money to spend.

Better not to take it seriously and follow those people who's expert on this case since for sure they already see the worst of it and maybe we don't experience that so I guess they are just working base on the experiences they encounter from those people who's been in worst situation on their gambling habits.

It's easier to avoid advice from your live ones when you see people making live changing money through gambling, telling them not to gamble is like telling them not to make it in life, so them won't listen anyway.

We shouldn't stop to advice them if they are friends or family because we don't expect them listen to us, you might never know, and if truly you care for them, keep the advice alive and if they are smart, they will understand in time that you are doing this because you care about them.

We are talking again about addiction. Why we don`t talking about millions of gamblers without problem? Why we get restrictions due to these ill people? It is awful situation as for me. We can`t gamble without problems, we can buy medicament due to drug addicts, etc. The main part of people haven`t any problems with gambling or probably drugs, but we all suffers due to this small part of us.

It's like my friend, let alone the advice of friends, his wife and children he doesn't even listen to, that's why being a bad addict is difficult to cure, therefore addicts can be a reflection for us as gamblers so we don't play gambling too much, because if we can't controlling it of course will ruin everything and easy to lose money even family.

I always make myself aware when I play too much, at least there is an alarm for me to stop gambling so I don't gamble too much, that's why it's important for my family to always be able to remind us when I'm too far into gambling because without them I can't control myself. don't let our friends play too far, always remind them before they become addicts.

     -   Well, with other gamblers they actually do that. Even though their friends and relatives warn them, they turn a deaf ear and still do what they want to gamble.

So the other people, they just let them in their inclined gambling because they see that their warning to them is ignored. The reminder they heard goes in the right ear and out the left. This is really the effect when gambling becomes an addiction or vice to them.

Well, some of them actually listen and try to leave it but they can barely do that because just like this person whose brother saved him, they get too deep into it that they find it difficult to get out. Those who acknowledge that they are in a situation from where they must get out will take a helping hand coming towards them but those who don't think they are addicted would never accept it.

The ones who don't even accept that they are addicted can never be helped and that basically becomes the cause for them to ruin their lives and the lives of their loved ones too because they are not ready to leave their addiction but instead consider it not to be a problem.

Yes, it's not right to make fast money by gambling, meaning that person doesn't understand the process of making real money, in the process of working alone there needs to be a process of time, energy and thought, but people think that by gambling all the money can be obtained quickly, that's what I consider it as a lazy person, gambling only costs money if you can't control it.

Many people cannot control themselves when they play gambling and instead of looking for fast money there are only spending money fast, that's why I never considered playing gambling as a source of my income but as a place for me to have fun in it, but it all comes back to mind each.

Most, if not all, of the people I know who engage in gambling are open to constructive discussions. I am proud to say that I do not have anyone close to me who struggles with gambling addiction. Advising individuals with compulsive gambling can be challenging, and they should seek counseling from professionals. It is important to prioritize our own well-being, starting with a healthy mindset. Remember to gamble responsibly.

People who think about making quick money gambling should think again because they won't always be able to make it. They might lose a lot especially if they don't have good self-control. We may have experienced it and seen other people's experiences but don't let ourselves have to experience it because it will cost all the money. But if someone is willing to listen to other people's advice for his own sake, it will be a fortune for him because he can be saved and cured of gambling addiction.

I have never met a gambling addict, maybe because my community is not a gambler so I have never met gambling addict friends.
This power is because they don't realize that they are already addicted, especially if they are still able to continue to fulfill their gambling desires because they still have money. Usually they will realize when their finances start to be disturbed or when people around them are also disturbed by their gambling activities, but as long as they can still get money to gamble, it is very difficult to realize and start looking for help to get rid of this addiction.

When I saw the topic I was expecting to see new medical research from one or more of these top universities that links deafness to gambling addiction. I didn't know OP was insinuating that gamblers don't take or listen to advise because they have lost control and are under the influence of a strong habit.

Each time I meet with young gambling addicts, I always counsel them on the need to gamble responsibly. Many of them will look sober and promise me after swearing with heaven and earth that they will never engage in gambling as full-time employment again. But 95% of these youths will still go back to gambling. Some women have threatened to divorce their husband if he keeps gambling with almost all their income, yet they will still secretly go back to gambling. It is not deafness, pathological gambling is related to the brain reward system triggered by the release of dopamine.

Gambling addiction will always be a menace if you ask me around the world. The desire to earn money quickly in a short span of time makes people get addicted to gambling and usually produces negative results leading to bad consequences.

Self-control matters the most while gambling when compared to other factors basically.

it is not His brother that saved Him but His own desire to stop addiction , its just His brother is the key.
nope , because I don't even try to as I know what is gambling all about and yes it is addicted.
they are not deaf , but it is the addiction and their greediness that made them stupid not to listen in good advises .

Yeah I thought the same things too

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yeah gambling is very high addictive even do trade on futures just exactly like gambling, especially without proper knowledge, tho quit is also hard.

Today I do gambling but with no real money only using some chip from game and play for slot  is still fun tho

Yes, definitely whether it’s gambling or any other addiction, if we advise them to leave it, they don’t listen us, until and unless we gave them a reality check. We warn them about the adverse effect that is causing due to this addiction, but still they surely behave like deaf and hence do their own harm. Gambling addiction takes, when they think they have chance to win, but often losses. And these types of addiction seen only from people who is rich. Poor people can’t afford to get addicted.

I support addiction is never a joking issue, only someone who has been in this problem would truly understand how devastating the habit can be. Although I don't about it causing deafness but it can cause serious mental trauma and can leave the victim stupendously stranded on his mistakes and regrets. So if anyone is actually addicted to gambling and you know this, helping him can go a long way to saving his remaining financial life because an addiction is not something that should be ignored.

Oh, so you meant ear deafness as a metaphor and not literally the actual physical disease?

Well, the problem with most addicts is that they only listen to themselves. They have their own logic that they try to rationalize in their heads. They also attempt to justify their actions even if they know that what they are doing is already detrimental to their mental and physical health, yet they still continue to feed their addiction by succumbing to eat.

I really believe that in order to combat any addiction, the person must be very determined to help himself/herself in order to get out of that kind of environment.

Seeking professional help would be better. Indeed you may follow what others are telling you 'coz in the first place addiction is alarming. However, it won't be aided by just listening to the right thing to do. Professionals will give you steps on how to overcome addiction with basis and not just by mere opinions. Addiction is a serious state of mind, which requires thorough attention. On the ssme instance, the individual seeking for help could run into them with assurance of no judgements. There are also different approaches in order to overcome addiction and professionals will simply be able to tell which would work better for you. All it takes is to have an initiative of helping oneself.

I also thought it was that natural deafness so I checked the thread of the possible reason why gambling addiction can cause ear deafness.  Now I realized that I was click baited into ready this thread, and the deafness @OP telling is the decision of the player to ignore people making them look like deaf while they are engaged in gambling.

I thought this is physical deafness because honestly, there isn't any medical basis for that to happen. Anyway, if the gambler is consumed so much by their gambling habits that they no longer listen to reason, they should seek assistance with a professional for intervention, not just family and friends. Those guys can only do so much, but unless the gravity of the situation is presented to these gambling addicts, they won't really understand that what they're doing is damaging and detrimental.

^ I agree with you and that is definitely right.
There is nothing spiritual about reaching out to an addict. It is not about shouting or forcing them to change their ways.
True progress happens when we approach addicts with empathy, compassion, and genuine understanding because for me, it is about actively listening and engaging in meaningful conversations. We know on that stage of addiction, a gambler should be on especially treatment like a psychiatrist that only they have the ability to understand this kind of person who has been in a gambling addiction.  

The ops need to edit the thread to include a more clear term in the topic since there is no physical deafness in this argument rather than that it was just an exaggeration of the term and this could cause a misleading understanding of the topics but then it indeed the characteristic of gambling addicts not to listen to anyone but that doesn't mean that there have cases of ear deafness rather the developed a thick skin not to listen to anyone when their advice them on their gambling escapades.

But in the long run,  reading the entire piece will give more understanding of what the ops want to point out in clearer terms.

I am ignoring the misleading title and just answer to this.

There's nothing spiritual about it. Getting trough to an addict doesn't happen by screaming, it happens by listening and conversation, but if you really want to have an effect, maybe organize intervention with closest friends and talk with the addict. But have your basis covered and learn about gambling addiction before doing that. Because shouting only drives the addict away from your influence. That could make them just hide deeper in themselves.

There are also ton of peer support groups in the internet, there were even some peer support threads here in bitcointalk if i recall correctly. Point the addict to those, he might even enjoy talking with people who understand them and are not screaming to them, but work as cautionary examples.

And needless to say on top of those, professional help gives you best results.

Just like many types of addiction, a person who is an addict usually doesn't want to hear an advise.
They think they know what they are doing and they don't want to hear anything about what they need to do.
But if you have a close friend, or family who needs help, as much as possible, try to assist them to see what is really going on with their life.
Most of the time, they are blind to see what gambling is doing to their self or to their family.
This is why you need long patience when you deal to a person with such problem. Try to look for the root cause why he went that way.

Also thought this way but it turns out to be different.
Well, gambling addiction can cause a lot of stress and might trigger sickness as well. If your friend are more responsible in gambling then its good but if you have a friend who are still struggling and their situation slowly becoming worst, better to help them as early as possible. Addiction is not a joke, and you should treat this seriously at all cost.

What happens is that when someone is addicted they are in denial, they do not want to admit what is happening to them as it is too painful to do, since they know that if they finally admit they have a problem then they will have no other choice but to confront it, so in their minds it is preferable to deny they have a problem, however things get so bad that no matter how much they may try to deny it at some point they will have no other choice but to admit they have a huge gambling addiction problem and face it head on.

Do not be surprised if many of us are fond of gambling, the fact is that they are not aware that they are part of the addict. I found many of these phenomena in the neighborhood where I live, although not all of them fall into the category of addicts. but many of them claim, that they play just for fun and nothing more. However, what they don't realize is that they are involved in gambling almost every day. there is also, they are very well aware that they have become part of the gambling addicts. yet they deny it, that they are not one of them. I'm pretty sure, there are plenty of us who are in denial like I said.

I myself, it seems yes, I am a gambling addict. however, that doesn't mean I gamble blindly like the image of gambling addicts. in essence, I have an understanding of gambling itself, the definition of gambling for me, and most importantly responsibility. at least, for ourselves without harming the people around us.
There are also some of my friends who are compulsive gamblers, even some of them have spent their possessions. to be honest, I have no right to judge what they have done. right or wrong, let them judge for themselves. My job as a friend is nothing more than to give them support and motivation so they don't overdo it in their gambling. some of them, knowing full well that they were corrupted. however, their high desire for gambling has taken root deep and made it difficult for them to escape their addiction. people like this, need support from friends, family, and need special treatment.

I don't think the problem is that they don't want to listen, the issue is that they are not discipline enough to actually stop the act because to stop gambling addiction you actually need to be very precise on your decision to stop it, its not an easy task but anyone who knows how dangerous the habit can get will definitely find a way to stop this act.

Without reading the details of your posts a person will never understand what you have discussed here. Your title is one and the post is another.

Anyway, I am discussing your post. But yes there are many gamblers on online gambling platforms who have become addicted to gambling but they don't want to reveal themselves in public. But their behavior reveals their addiction to gambling. Here it is clearly understood that OP has become addicted to gambling everyone understands but dare not tell his elder brother because his elder brother is his savior. Gambling addiction is a very serious addiction and those who are addicted to it are completely destroyed.

I have been involved in online gambling for a long time but never turned gambling into an addiction. Moreover, till date I have not seen such a person as you quoted. But quite some time ago a person asked me about online gambling and how to gamble there. His family condition was very bad. So I advised him not to come directly to the gambling stage but he listened to me.

I had the same idea. I thought he'd cite some pseudoscientific article claiming that gamblers become deaf.

It's like OP is trying to take one of the old topics and add a twist to it so it doesn't look the same because we've already had a number of articles asking why gamblers don't want to change, but this is the first time that I see someone ask why they don't listen to advice and come to a conclusion that they could be deaf

They don't listen for the same reason why a drunkard keeps drinking even though he's at the bottom, sleeping in a park.

If he started talking to him or that person telling the truth about his gambling addiction, he would know that he was already addicted to gambling. And he is really lucky to have siblings who are willing to say that he is addicted to gambling, and this is good because he can ask his siblings to help cure his gambling addiction. And supposedly, the man can try to recover with the help of his brother, but it will return to the man because no one can force his will on the man except for the man who asks for help from other people.

Lol, how misleading the subject of this discussion is though..

Anyways, personally for me, I used to have a friend who was addicted to gambling, and many a times I advice him to either reduce the way he gambles, or quit it completely, and the problem with him is not that he does not listen, he does listen but going with the instructions given is where his problem lies..
One time, he confessed to me that, he had been trying his best to see if he can stop gambling, but hes unable to, that as long as he has money in his pocket, he will not rest from gambling until the whole money is gone.

Now, that is true addiction, so not that addicted gamblers have deaf ears and don't listen or hear what they are told to do, they do listen and hear, but the spirit behind that addiction won't allow them do exactly what they are told to do.

That title confused me to be honest with you op. I thought you meant ear deafness in the literal sense here. Anyway, I don't have any friends who cannot control their gambling addictions since they don't really wager much.

However, I know how difficult it is to control your gambling addiction based on my personal experience. It can get really, really scary sometimes.

Each person relates to addiction in a different way
But yes most people won’t listen or react angry when they’re presented with a negative aspect of their personality
It’s rare to find people who look at themselves and try to understand their behavior, from my experience most are just running on automatic

Gamblers will never be aware if they are into gambling addiction unless they monitor themselves and reflect on their gambling situation.  Addiction never tells a gambler that he will strike him, it is working in silence and it is late for a player when he knows about his gambling addiction.


I think his fear for his brother is the reason why he was awaken and be able to stop the addiction that is slowly engulfing him.  Kudos to his brother, by being strict and frightening, his brother is able to save him from addiction.


No, since I don't have a gambling addict friend as far as I know and I am too far away from my relatives to know about their day-to-day activities.


No they are not deaf, they just ignore people when these people reminds them of their gambling activities.

How would you know an addicted gambler ? When you start advising him to stop gambling,he will stop coming to see you anymore or want to interact with you so that you don't continue bugging him against his gambling wishes. I don't think that a gambler even knows when he is addicted because he thinks that it is his usual life style. I met someone who has lost everything he had on gambling and still believes that he will recover his lost,so many persons advised him but he turned his deaf ears on them. Not until when he used someone's money to gamble and he was arrested and nobody went to bail him out.

The thing is that realizing by your own could be also dangerous, because it could imply something drastic or traumatic has to happen in order for one to realize how deep the hole is where one is trapped after so many months or years. And at that point it is easy to have already lost the support of family and friends.

And I agree with you, this kind of things are not exclusive to gambling but rather happens quite often when comes to some behavioral addictions. I have a cousin who struggled with videogame addiction for months, League of Legends specifically, he would spend all the night playing and also play while eating, in spite the advice I personally offered to him about that kind of habits...

I don't know if this can be immediately confirmed by a psychiatrist because I don't think everyone has the inclination not to listen. It's just that there are some gamblers who are like this, usually, here they are deaf, that is, in general, a man will focus on the one job he is doing. Let's say he is gambling, even though he is shouted at in a loud voice, he tends not to respond to the sound because his focus level is at one point. To make stimulation easier, you can do a small experiment with 2 subjects, male and female, to prove the response rate of both. Try calling a woman (subject 1) who is focused on doing something and how will she respond? then do the same thing to the man (subject 2) whether he is gambling or actually doing other tasks (provided that both are really in a state of focus as gamblers who focus on the game).

this happens with all kind of addictions and not only with gambling.
it is really difficult (sometimes impossible) to realize to have such a problem.
In general the best way is to realize it independently. It requires time, it's painful, but probably the most efficacy solution.

The topic is so misleading and at that one needs to be careful and read through the entire message to graph what ops want to make of the statement and for some time I never thought that the deafness the ops mean was the area of not listening to advice in the excessive gambling and how it affect the individual, this is a common attribute of an addict of course there will always have an excuse not to have to listen to the last advise to quit gambling. I

Not just gambling addicts actually like we also see game addicts on the computer when they are engrossed in playing with their games sometimes they also like to be deaf they don't hear when we call, because they are focused on having fun playing and are definitely serious in playing, that's why there is always self-control before playing for example gambling, because basically being an addict or not is a choice.

If you don't want to become an addict, just limit your budget and time to play, including duration, so you can control the game and know when to stop. It's difficult, but if you're consistent, you won't fall deeper into a game like a heavy addict. that is why never gamble if you are not mentally prepared when you experience defeat. as you said addiction is the gambler's worst enemy.

It is common for gamblers to play deafness to advice especially if it is coming from someone who doesn't gamble at all or who gambles seldomly. I am having the notion the brother to the gambler might also be a gamble and knows how to make his brother listen to him about his addictions. It takes an experienced and trained person to talk an addict out of their addiction.

When something grows into an addict it takes extra discipline to break out of it. And to make an addict see reason with you the words of conviction must be full of experience, less of condemnation and packed with encouragement.

Because of the subject topic, I thought for a moment on how gambling cause a ear deafness LOL. I litterally thought it can cause real harm physically. But yeah, majority of the addicts don't care about things and don't listen to people advices until they are on a very deep trouble because of gambling. It's rare to see an addict to stop doing gambling just because they are told to stop. Even with realizations, there still an urge to do gambling if you are an addict. Those who stop instantly suffered from withdrawal and they just continued to play after trying it one more time.

Maybe we have different understanding of what the OP is telling. OP said "I met someone who said he wasn't even aware he was an addict until his sibling told him he was too deep into gambling". I say "saved", what I mean is that the gambler can still be made aware of what he did wrong (gambling excessively).
It's clear here that even the gambler the OP is talking about is aware that he has gone overboard, and I see that because he realized after being warned by his brother. And usually we admit our mistakes at that time after it happened.

Just like others, even I thought you are talking about physical inability but after reading the post I got the context.
It's true though. A lot of gamblers out there cannot be convinced because of their gambling addiction.
There are many who still want to quit gambling but their addiction over powers them and they get back to gambling.
It's a sad reality but they indeed behave like a deaf not because they don't want to listen but because they can't follow what they listen.

maybe that person wasn't addicted to gambling yet, he just kept spending a lot of time gambling and it's very different from being a gambling addict, for example the guys who work in the casinos and do the odds they have to spend a lot of time watching the games and analyzing a lot of data from many games every day, but that doesn't make them addicted to gambling, they are working, also another example is the case of professional bettors, they also spend many hours doing analysis of many games to be able to decide which game they will place a bet on, it is not something they will do in a few hours

because there are many leagues and many different games and sports, so a person getting very involved in gambling does not mean that he is addicted to gambling, for the person to see that someone is addicted to gambling, just ask that person if they can go without gambling for 1 month and ask them if they can go without thinking about gambling for a month or longer, if that person cannot do that then they are already on the road to gambling addiction, by the time that person can't take money and do other things and forget about games for a while so this person is already addicted to gambling

LOL 😂, The topic is funny, but the message is in the content. I am convinced that you never really got the right title for your topic before you chose this one; it's okay, though, since the message is at least understood. If you wish to change your topic, i suggest "addicted gamblers pays deaf ear to Advice" will give readers the idea of what the content would be.


Just like you, I have not accomplished that before; it's always difficult to do so. One of those addicts here will not even pay attention to anything you have to say; he can openly tell you to fuck off.



 just chuckled so badly. What... spiritual powers, like how? My philosophy lecturer back then at the university would always say that "man is the cause of his problems." That statement just came off my head because those who are chronic gamblers were the ones that decided to gamble in their full normal sense, then along the line they lose control and allow game (gamble) to control them, then how does it concern any spiritual powers?


Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺

You cannot convince or influence people to follow what you advise if they also see you doing such activities. Provably he will just ignore your words given to them and might still continue with his possible addiction because he didn't get decent advices coming from legitimate clean peoppe aways from this activites.

So hard for committed gambler to stop but daily advices can waken up his thoughts and he might realize that he need to stop his addiction and connect to more people who's not into the same addiction.

Yes, in any addiction things can get very ugly until the end of a person's life, and that is not what is sought, from what I have seen in some cases of addiction in casino games, people should leave it for so that they can be cured, because money is very easy to go, and it is not the idea that anyone should be left without their money because their work and everything they have to earn an income goes away, a person who has problems in The game must have a way to get out of that quickly , firstly to avoid Addiction and secondly so that your life does not start to distort , we must Always see everything related to what can happen and not rule out anything , because there is chaos of addiction to the game where the player steals from his own Family in order to play.

The story is not complete and what exactly he was saved? I only see on this story that someone is just absent mindend when gambling and not addicted at all. An addicted person will not gonna be on that state of mind because they are busy on their wager.

Maybe his brother save him that time on committing an all-in bet. I didn't encounter someone like this when gambling mybe when on headphones then its possible.

He was still at the point where he could easily be saved, which meant he could still listen to what other people were saying to him. Luckily there is a brother who knows and wants to say that he has gone too far in gambling, because if no one advises him maybe he will fall into an even crazier addiction hole.
Now this is an example of why someone should know we are gamblers, so when we lose control there will be someone to warn us and that will be a brake on us. And also people who know we are gamblers must have a high sense of concern, because if they were indifferent people they would not think about us.

Stopping an addiction requires initiative to seek for help if not by oneself. Being aware is one thing. Problem by most people going through addiction is being unaware  of how he/she is already doing such that if things or if things are getting out of hand already. No matter how your friend wants you to step out of your obsession, nothing will happen if you yourself won't do a thing about it. You'd be able to hear their warning but you won't have enough willingness to do as they told.

Gambling is different from other addiction 'coz it involves money, which is another drive for a person aside from entertainment and satisfaction.

Not only a gambler but even a normal person. I’m same like this when I’m focused on what I’m doing like when I’m at work doing my project, watching my favorite movie and other things that interest me more. There is nothing wrong on being focused even on gambling because it only shows how focused and interested are we on the things we are doing. It's not deafness but our mind is not entertaining interference like when we are on deep sleep or something.

I’m not alarmed with this behaviour unless I’m experiencing this kind of event out of control without I realizing it. I never try this on gambling because I’m always focus on my game due to the risk involved. I’m curious on how he can attain to be focused on gambling while it's full adrenaline rush when playing. You will be hype instead of being focus tho.

I think the same. At first I thought he was going to talk about physical deafness and not some kind of mental abstraction caused by the addiction that makes him not listen to anyone.


Fortunately I don't have any close acquaintances with that level of addiction. The most I've seen is someone gambling away the month's money on the slot machine, totally absorbed, as if nothing is going on around them.

how do I warn a gambling addict if I am also a gambler? even though I'm not a big nominal player, I still have control over the money I will put into the game.
I can't force a person or even my friends who are addicted to gambling. usually, I just remind them to rest and go to sleep for a while or just look for food first to prevent those who are too excited in game conditions that tend to be forced.
it's hard to get the gambler to stop. what may happen is from a coercive family or in certain situations he can realize his mistake.

This is just a myth but can not be deny to some extent. I have a friend who is very addicted to the extent I am thinking its not just ordinary but spiritually. Can you imagine this guy spent his cash on virtual betting and ended up placing his smart phone worth $125. After spending 1/3 of the amount of his phone, I showed up at the scene and rescued him and bailed his phone. Surprisingly, he still went back and continue playing with his phone as collateral. To cut the long story short, the phone was seized by the agent because he was not able to settle them after playing above the worth of his phone. I rescued him for the second time after raining lots of insult and advice but who am I to stop him? Guess what... The phone has been seized for the third time and we are just looking at each other like strangers. I told him to clear half of my debt before I should give him another money to retrieve his phone. I just don't know how to control him.

I gamble also but not to that extent of exhausting my whole cash not to even talk of placing one of my belongings. This my friend has gone far by placing his father's car and the car was held by the agent until his father came to clear the bills. Tell me how is this not spiritual for God's sake.

Not until a gambler is deaf in hearing before he can be regarded as a deaf gambler as long as such individual will not listen to advise from others, he's considered a dear ear gambler, when we are talking about listening to ideas, am not focusing on the general ideas that includes the wrong and bad ideas, but no paying attention to what could be profitable to a gambler's life is a display of deafness and should be discouraged among ourselves, things like this aren't spiritual matters but personal issues than can be dealt with by ourselves.

Screaming to them won't bring and end the situation at hand what I noticed mostly is that some gambler can't maintain their state of mind, whereby channeling all their thinking to gamble, there are some people who may think when they don't gamble for a day they missing alot. So the best way to get your brother out of this whole mess is to consistently calmly talking with them without any insults or form embarrassment, and what mainly attract the attention of most gamblers are lack of job, and laziness.

Is it not that your friend? Whenever I see your username with a new thread, what comes to my mind is "My Friend". By the way many people are addicted to gamble and when someone calls them they would not hear you because all their minds have been configured to focus only on the games they are going to play the moment. And this habit is not only in gamble for other things in life and that why we burn foods that are cooking in the house because the attention is not there again.

They will respond only to you, just saying yes to everything you've said. This is really pretty normal, not only in gambling addiction but in all kinds of addictions. You thought they would listen to you, but it turns out they didn't and still don't understand what you are saying. I haven't told someone who is addicted to gambling, but in other forms only, like computer game addictions, they tend to say yes, but their expression is like a void, and for sure it will not sink in their mind.

The title gets tricky if the person who makes a comment does not read the whole body of the context, this could be an enrichment to the people who play gambling because they ignore those around them as long as they enjoy and get satisfied in playing gambling, its better to scream to their ears as possible before it never been too late to them getting addicted, waste a lot of money, get into debt, and have a mental and emotional issues in the near future. Reason why better to get open to everyone before its too late.

In the world of gambling addiction is the worst enemy we have cause through addiction we can not control ourselves and that's the bad thing. That's why many Addicted gamblers have a ear deafness because they can not control themselves.  we must have the mindset that we gamble for fun and not for earning cause the more we mind that gambling is for earning then a big chance that we got into addiction.

There's no power behind this but may be called self determinant to achieve their desired winning/ Goal.
Sometimes if there were ways to get into a gambler's mind or thinking you would know that 60% to 70% of what they are thinking currently are ways to become successful, the process of these action or anxiety makes them sometimes behave strange were you might thought they are mad or deaf. Alternatively people who behaves that way aren't matured enough to gamble, they are not a responsible gamblers.

Those who took gambling as an occupation doesn't act or behaves strange, sometimes I could remembered few people I witnessed across my region are often subjected to it as workers, meaning they had time of everything and time to go inside their office for predictions and time to reason and discuss some other business as well as concerning issues of life.

Not really ear deafness but more on lacking attention on their surroundings because they are too deep in their session
I sometimes suffer from that I don't want to be disturbed or interrupted when playing on doing something important online I have total concentration on what I do, there's no spiritual power involved here there are people you cannot disturb on what they are doing and its not only on gambling but every field that require undivided attention.

People must be matured enough to control themselves. They might not be deaf-eared but they are just can not control and change themselves.

Gambling is only one of many activities people can do in their life. If they can not control themselves in gambling, they can lose control in trading, investment, gaming because when a person does things irresponsibly, the person has weak mentality. It will lead the person to many bad things that can not be self-controlled by that person. You only can give them advice and they will have to make decisions for their life.

Hopefully they will not lose their family and life because of addiction in any kind, gambling, trading, investment, gaming, drugs.

They are just on defensive on their actions and think that they are still fine. Maybe they just need proper guidance since most of this people is starting to ruin their life because he is in denial stage and not listening to others opinion regarding on what they notice to him. For sure keeping in touch with them and make them realize that they are in wrong path can change them since for sure they might think about what they are now going thru especially if they experience to lose a lot of money in gambling.

Also much better for this kind of thread if not ANN related post place it on Gambling discussion board since this is appropriate board for this discussions.

I've met a lot but to be honest I don't think they will listen to me if ever talk to them to stop on that addiction. I'm not the type to gave some advice but if I do I really get to the point and be frank to them directly on what are their problems and what to do to cope with it. I don't think they're deaf, they just don't want to listen to what others want to say.

I couldn't agree with you more. if the person wants to leave right as he recognized he was going into deep, or even before, he can do so, or he can limit himself right away. Others are aware that they are becoming hooked, but they are so stubborn/persistent that even professional advice can't help them. So, sometimes or maybe most of the time, it depends on someone's nature/personality.

I don't think I've ever met gamblers who were too deeply addicted but willing to listen to other people's advice to stop their gambling activities immediately. Most gamblers don't want to listen to the advice or words of other people who say they have a gambling addiction. They can neatly hide their gambling activities and only play gambling at online casinos when no one is around.

And your friend is really lucky because he wants to listen to what his brother says that he is addicted to gambling and wants to take advice from his brother. Hopefully, he can stop or cure his gambling addiction so he doesn't get too mired in gambling.

Most of them don't listen because they've heard it several times already, and there are always people who don't take the advice they hear seriously, even though it's for the better. Luckily, I don't have to spend my time helping my gambling friends since they're most likely aware and would stop on their own if they've hit their limits. Then again, if you're determined to help a fellow gambler, there are several ways to help someone that's addicted aside from telling them to stop.

Most people that are addicted to gambling don’t really know they are addicted, I came across some people and I keep on telling them they are already addicted to gambling but they keep on arguing with me that they are not addicted, they keep on saying they can stop gambling whenever they want, they are not just ready to stop, but the way those guys are attached to gambling, I know they are addicted and they can’t stop it. The way those guys keep on pumping money to gambling and they keep on losing but they can’t stop gambling, I know something is wrong.

It’s very difficult that you will advise any addicted gamblers and they will listen, they keep on believing that one day they are going to make massive money if they don’t give up, but after wasting lots of money and maybe selling their properties to gamble, some of them always come back to their right senses.

For some people gambling is their last hope and they have seen others make it from gambling so they have deaf ears when you want them to stop. If they stop gambling today they will have no other sources of income and they won't know that they're getting addicted.

I have experience of advising people against reducing the way they gamble and they did and also other experiences of advising addicts yet they seem not to hear. I think those that are still early into the addiction will respond to your advise than those that are deep into the addiction.

If you try helping an addict and they responded negatively doesn't mean you should stop trying to help them. Addiction is very hard to breakout from so you can get the person professional help and hopefully it helps to reduced the money and time he use for gambling.

It all depends on the psychology of a particular person. People who do not know how to resist excitement will always play for the full amount.
Such players need to play in a casino with a self-limiting feature

The funny part is that we might not even know that we are a gambling addict until become conscious of our activities and people around tell us how dedicated we are to gambling. This problem of making sure that we keep gambling does not start in one day, it is a continue habit that we might not understand how we get into it. It is very important to have people around that will keep scrutinizing our affiliatiom to gambling activities.

I was once a ln addict too and how I was able to stop gambling waw still a dream to me. It will strict practice for those that are already an addict to stop and keep going. One of the things that can stop us from reducing our gambling activities is when we involve ourselves in activities that are taking our time and not giving us chance to go gamble or play bets.

    -   It used to be that when online casinos weren't paid much attention to, most people who went to casinos were rich and had a lot of money. But now, online gambling has become rampant and it has become even easier because it is promoted by famous influencers who don't care about their followers.

Then, when there is a gambling addict, because he is addicted to gambling, he doesn't care what his friends or family say about what he is doing in the gambling industry. Theirs is that they can get what they want to gamble in the casino.

A very misleading topic of yours OP, I was thinking that I wanted to learn something new but after reading the thread,that when I saw that it isn't something new. Most gamblers hates advice,when you are telling them to quit. This is because some are addicted to it and will always keep on chasing their losses believing that some day their dreams will come true of hitting it big. While some see it as fun. Those that turn deaf ears to advice on gambling will only learn from a hard lesson because they can only learn by experience and not by advice. This does not just apply to only gambling but alcohol and smoking too.

That's why I've never been interested in campaigning for the site or having the casino site provide a way to get the addict to quit, when it's obvious that without the addict the casino will never have much money, so it's often laughable to see someone think like that, let's go back to the subject here is that a heavy addict who does not want to listen to advice.

Here maybe people already understand that it is difficult for a heavy addict to be advised to be invited to reduce his addiction itself let alone invite the casino to help overcome it, obviously it will be a waste of time, one time at the end point the addict will feel exhausted and at that point they will look for own place to reduce their addiction, so never ask for advice or force heavy addicts to stop gambling, it's very strange, so one of the keys is that everything goes back to the addict. because we can't change someone if not from himself who wants to change. 

There are some countries that believe in spiritual attack, I can not entirely blame them because it is true, in a way that someone will attack you to be doing something you like, like adultery and wasting your money on fine young girls, gambling and drug, just for not to be a successful person in life.

But there are some things that are just natural and not spiritual attack, but people in such countries will say it is their spiritual enemies that is causing it, not knowing that they are causing it themselves. You know that something is collecting money from you, why can't you quit that thing.

He only meant that to be advising someone but the person is not listening. I think I have heard an idiom like that before, but maybe I am not right, but that is what the OP means. The way OP used it in the topic title makes it to have different meaning.

Your topic is actually something  else and at first when I came across it, I was really  interested  and wanted to know how possible this could be for gambling to cause physical deafness.
With that been said, I don't think an addict will ever pay any listening ears to advice wanting him to quite gambling  and at some point, if you persist with your advice, they might want to see you as an enemy against their success.
One funny thing about addicts is the fact that they always believe that their days of glory will come or be restored and that's one belief that has kept so many addicts trapped.

It is not a spiritual power,it is just the greed who leads to addiction and no one can stop them except strong self will.I know people who have lost their families because of their obsession with gambling,they used to stay all day in the lotto club or casino and losing a lot of money there.I know that most people will be deaf when you invite them to quit gambling as they think of gambling as an habit which is part of their life now.I am also deaf in this aspect as only I decide which is better for me but when I saw the title of this thread I was scared to death as I thought gambling to have an impact on my hearing  .

What I think is that people are different, but most people that are addicted to gambling may likely not listen until gambling teaches them life lesson. When I was in school, my friend advised me but I did not listen. When out of school, I mean after I finished the final year in school, I met new friends and some of them know that I am gambling and using too much money for it. Many of them advised me, I thought they were wrong. When I lost huge amount of money a year after, the money that I supposed to use for something else, I changed not to be addicted anymore by quitting gambling for a year.

What gamblers hates most is telling them to quit gambling, if you wanna ever make some friends on a betting shop or casino shops never tell them to quit rather encourage them.
The only way to draw their attention to you is early morning or at night, probably when they wants to have their dinner at this point there's nothing much about gambling in their mind.

All their thinking would be to eat and take some rest, at this point you could start a gist that relates to gambling to draw all their attention, at ending of discussion you may tell them some disadvantages of  gambling that involves when someone is going off track about gambling.

To forcefully stop them is like a torgue of war were you are partially wanting to become a limitation to their success through gambling. What a gambler believe is that a day to come they must definitely strike a winning at any point in time, so they keeps trying that why you see people going worse everyday all in the name of gambling because they have focused, channel their efforts from getting Rich in gambling.

So, whenever you try talking to them you automatically becomes their enemy that wants to limit them from becoming whom they want through gambling.

The title is kinda misleading because it give an entirely diffirent meaning as what you wrote in the body of the thread...

This is not only applicable to gambling alone, if you tell someone that what he / she is currently doing is not right they tend to argue and claim that you're only jealous of them and you want them to stop doing what it is that they are doing so that you can take over and start benefiting from it yourself.

In the case op mentioned it seems like the person is not the dogmatic type and he's ready to listen to others and take advice so that they can improve their life but if it was the type I described above ( the dogmatic type, the one that's always looking for what to justify their activities even when it's clear that it's wrong) they will never listen and that could be attributed to being "deaf to advices".

I do not think this topic is suitable for the main board. You should move this topic to the child board  - Gambling discussion.

Initially my first reaction to the heading was, What? I thought that a few gamblers might have met with an accident that caused hearing loss. We tend to see such heading in main stream media as click bait. Coming back to the topic, any kind of addiction would alway make the addicted person behave in the same manner. This is common as an addicted person would never accept his addiction.

I thought at first from your topic title that the individuals had physical deafness until I read the entire message and this is why I decide to comment since the title is misleading because there is a difference between ear deafness and not listening to advice and I think in this situation you have over-emphasis and push too much.

But all the same,  you are right when you said those who are addicts are not aware or simply overlook their gambling excessiveness but another person can easily notice that.

It's easier to get addicted to online gambling, but I recently met someone who said that he isn't even aware that he was an addict until his blood brother told him that he is going too deep into gambling.

He said that he screamed to him to wake up scarily, he said his brother is his savior, but I replied to him that he is someone who listened, most gambling addicts that I have came across have closed ears, they won't listen to you when you try to warn them or advice them.

Have you meet gamblers that are going way too deep into addiction and you try to stop them and they listen? I've never accomplished that before.

They always behaved deaf, like some spiritual power is in control.