Topic: GAMBLING PROBLEM? - Refference topic for websites that offer help/support (Read 6906 times)

You would be surprised.... it's not something they have to advertise either - patron is expected to calculate the odds for his/her self.

O/T: QUESTION STILL REMAINS, Please PM me if you're uncomfortable with responding here.

Fuckin A... Who in there right mind would play a game with 5% or more!?

Hi all,

Just doing some research at the moment on margin restrictions placed by government entities on real life Casinos.

Currently where I live, a casino or gambling venue is not allowed to have a margin of 5% or greater which I find to be ridiculous.


Just curious if anyone could share what the restrictions are where you live? you don't have to share the city however country would be very helpful.


Thanks!

I basically yolo'd it because I knew it was never going to be mine anyways. I think I wagered over 3000-4000 mBtc total

Were you finally able to withdraw some, after gambling that much?
Or did you lose it in the process?

Most casinos put a gambling with responsibility warning and advice people to seek help when they see they are in trouble, at least in public.

Not all casinos are morons that just say fuck you to people with gambling problems, at least in public

I told my girlfriend and handed over all my cards. This way I know it's wrong to gamble and I don't even think about it that much anymore. I recently did win 1000mBTC on a promo giveaway, did gamble it because I had to gamble that amount 36 times in order to withdraw but never felt the need to deposit my own btc

Well thats none of your business
But I will still say it. I sold a book back in 2010-2011, and got bitcoins in return.
Just recovered the wallet from the private key I had in 2013. Was definitely a good deal for me.

I am not sure about how those casino responds to such accusations.
But some casinos like luckybit actually have a gamble responsibly link on their site, which is a nice thing to do.

just to know...did you buy these btc or you mined them?

Looking for some good quotes on gambling threads to show the attitude of some of the casino owners of this forum, you can PM it if you don't wish to post them here.

I remember one a while ago about some guy complaining about his troubling state of mind when it comes to gambling and wishing the same disease upon the casino owner so they knew how he felt and the only response he was awarded with was "Sucks to be you" or something like that...

Anyone else remember this? if so can you tell me which casino/link to thread? other examples are welcomed!

Its hard to not be motivated to gamble after such triggers. I would suggest locking your bitcoin away, for the time being( as long as bitcoin gambling is what interests you). You could ask a family member for help to stop you from gambling. During boredom use that money to take your family out for dinner or something fun.

Good question, however, I still get emails from casino's but that's not what trigger(ed)s me, only when they used incentives like no deposit bonuses. I think it won't help much to prohibit ads on social media, if a person has no hesitate to gamble, he or she will, with or without ads. The addiction should be killed from within, not from the outside world.

Have noticed something a little alarming the past few weeks...

I tweeted a response to one of Crypto Betting Index's posts a few weeks ago and ever since I've had at least 2-3 Casino twitter accounts "follow" and "unfollow" me as a form of advertising (twitter notification + e-mail)

From what I've read, it doesn't take much at all for a problematic gambler to relapse and fall into old habits especially in times of boredom (which is why we're on social media in the first place)

Now here is my question:
Does this mean social media should be prohibited for someone in a rehabilitation stage?

I've read a lot of the guidelines from some of the leading help websites and none of them mention this sort of stuff, is our information outdated?

Thoughts?

Yeah thats really great. For the people wondering, this is the link they put in: http://www.helpguide.org/articles/addiction/gambling-addiction-and-problem-gambling.htm
Its also mentioned in the op.

Great work to Luckybit for adding this to their website, in this day and age a sense of moral almost non existent in casinos (then again I suppose there never was), hopefully Luckybit set an example for some of the other Casinos advertised on BTCtalk.

Thats too nice

Yeah Luckybit has a warning at the bottom of the page and a link to get help page.

Gambleing hate gamble when u get large lost.....

go to luckybit and scroll down to the bottom, scroll fast or u will want to gamble there
there is a link at the bottom of the page

I'm a gambling addict, I do think there is some sub-conscious need to self-destruct in me. Even knowing all this its hard to control, I was doing pretty well for awhile but have fallen back into it lately.

Someone sent me this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03kQXimVcrw

Great video, defiantly suggest watching if you wanted a deeper understanding of a problem gambler.

Well I guess what is good about BTC is that the most you can lose is all your BTC.

Unlike the casinos where all you keep doing is withdraw more money from your savings or taking cash advances on credit cards.

I know you can always buy more BTC, but its not instant. And by the time you get more BTC, most likely you would learn your lesson and move on.

in fact the linux command didnt work for me, im not an addict but i tried to block primedice

I think the idea is great, but I'm afraid there are not a lot of people backing you . Most of the time, the only people who care are the victims. I do agree there should be a stickied disclaimer/help topic.

Thanks BCNJ.

/Bumpthread

I dont think it will work in the forced format, cant say for sure. Its the wild west in bitcoin land and for good reason most of the time.

If you can get gaming sites voluntarily opt into things that would be ideal but i think you said you approached a couple sites before with no luck.  So not sure how you get them to opt in to a gamble awareness campaign by choice.

Would appreciate some feedback on my last post thanks!

Thanks for the feedback Daanie, I was beginning to question if anyone would even care about this topic considering how many Casino owners just post here to bump their own threads but replies such as yours make me think otherwise.

I've been considering starting a petition on Change.org to have Theymos implement a regulation on advertising your casino here which would stipulate that you have a clear section for help or support to troubled gamblers if you want to your site mentioned here.

However I haven't been on this forum for very long so I don't know him well enough to say it would work, has something like this in the past worked with Theymos? thoughts/opinions? I would invest considerable time into this so I'd want to make sure it at least has a chance before I start.

You should definitely read the articles ,links posted by the Op. Might be useful.

I must say, even this topic helped me out a bit. I currently don't feel the need and hope it will stay like this. Some ppl here opened up my eyes, thanks.

Thanks, there is definitely a lot of great advice there.

Hey Jamie thanks.  One thing i would say (incase i came across cold to anyone) is dont feel bad if you get caught up in the gambling trap.  There are very smart people working to make gambling appealing.   Some people are susceptible to different things.  Once you are self aware of problems like this you have a level of control even if that means total avoidance.  Just be honest, accept you are fragile and the external world is much bigger than you.

Peace out.

A very good response, I'm going to add this to the topic as it holds a lot of weight being from someone who used to do this professionally (and its' good advise in general).

Couldn't agree more, that's why I've been pushing BtcTalk to make it a requirement that if you advertise here you must also advertise for help to those troubled by the addiction of gambling.

Sad to say it's a losing battle.

Maybe the casino sites should have a help section.
Sometimes, the "Gamble Responsibly" disclaimers don't help. 

This is what makes me never gamble/gamble anything but spare change + some thoughts:

1.) Understanding odds to a decent level. As a former professional poker player, i only like to make +ev bets.  I do not consider p2p poker "gambling".  After many years playing poker a roulette wheel or any other house edge game etc hold very little joy for me.

So i would suggest anyone stuck with gambling problem learn the odds in depth.  Dont delude yourself that any 1 bet vs the house is a winner even if you win - its hard because sometimes you do win on a -ev bet and it deceives you.  In a parallel universe you lost.

2.) I like making money.  If you make -ev bets you must like to lose money or something that is the truth of it.   We aren't above needing money to survive so unless you want to self destruct on some level? which you might, you need money.

I know its not this simple but it seems like gamblers want to self destruct?... at least on some level, thats a hard thing to get over, been there and dont have a simple solution because everyone is different with different life set up.  Maybe admitting you are attempting to self destruct when gambling is a good first step vs deluding yourself that a -ev bet means something else.

Its hard to recognize a -ev bet with some things in life but with gambling vs the house its very clear using math measurements only.

You need asses weather it's worth it.

1. Are you losing sleep over your gambling?
2. Is your life significantly more stressful sometimes as a result of gambling?
3. Are you finding it hard to provide yourself with the basics in life? food/cover etc?

Feel free to pm me if you don't want to respond here.

sometimes when I fell salary amount just average,
I need something that make it multiply.

Yes, gambling !
But it contains high risk
and I lose so much 
But just don't be addicted and regret for a long time because it will kill you soon !

help reference

Totally true, some people live on the streets because of their gambling addiction. It's something serious

I disagree, in fact I think you're misinformed about the definition of the term.

Gambling is fun, there's no doubt about that - but when done properly that's all it is and no more
Gambling as a 'problem' is when you're making heavy decisions constantly based on luck hoping for the best and as a result lose friends/family/significant funds or your morale in general.

I suggest you educate yourself about the topic a little more.

I think we've all got a bit of a gambling problem, even those who have never stepped foot in a casino or risked money.  It is human nature if you live in society, because as humans we want to get the most reward with as little work as possible, and when that happens there is a feeling of thrill and ecstasy.  Combine this with the fact that we are risk takers, and gambling becomes part of human nature.

I don't think it's possible to make a guide for such a problem, everyone develops an addiction for their own reasons, weather to escape reality, the adrenaline, the love of winning, the 'high' and several more that I don't even know about.

The best we can do is offer our unconditional support.

Some interesting topics there, thanks for sharing Finlon.

I think, once a comprehensive guide is made, this should be stickied.

Also, for the person looking to UP ban himself from PD3, you gotta be careful...if you don't address the addiction it will come up in other ways, like on other sites.  Banning yourself from 1 site won't make it better in the long run.

There are also some interesting replies here: http://www.reddit.com/r/problemgambling

On how to go about solving gambling issues.

First one is Linux/Mac as mentioned, the second one isn't a command, just the file path and syntax of what to put in the file to achieve the blocked result

What type of command is that?

Taken from the Primedice thread, if you want to ban yourself from a website please follow the steps listed below:


Edited the full URL into the commands, credits given to espringe for posting this guide in an attempt to help a community member.

Only problem I have is when I fckin lose!

Full blown addict and I hate it.. As the other guy said when I found bitcoins last year it became a whoe new addiction, I gotta stop losing so much .. I'm just always chasing money I lost and just lose more grrrr

I think a requirement of advertising your website here should be that you have to put a section for gambling support or a reference to a credible helpline. on your casino website.

Just because we're somewhat unregulated doesn't mean everything will all be magically ok, it's a real issue and it needs to be addressed IMO.

Thanks for your posts Deanie & Finlon, hope the links posted helped you out - offer still stands if you need to chat to someone

Thanks, this should be helpful . I have lost over 20 BTC as well when the price was 1000/btc, and I would degen them. I try and not visit any of the sites even to have a look.

I have a gambling problem and need a little help. I lost over 20k dollars I believe (total). It's not that I gamble myself into trouble, but I do lose a lot of money. I never go to casino's or online casino's anymore but since I found out you can gamble with BTC I'm having another addiction.

Gaming can help me a lot, it means I'm basically moving my addiction elsewhere but gaming gets boring after a while.

I will try out your tools and hopefully it can help me!

Hi all,

Just going to post a few links here in relation to gambling problems/addiction. If you've suffered something similar in the past, please post your own tips and stories for other Bitcointalk members who are potentially having the same issues.

Also references to good helplines/websites are appreciated, I'll edit them into the topic.

This one here I've personally found very helpful, especially the live advise helpline (I haven't used it but I've recommended it to others who say good things):
https://www.gamblingtherapy.org/

Few others I found via google:
https://www.problemgambling.ca/gambling-help/online-tools/

http://www.helpguide.org/articles/addiction/gambling-addiction-and-problem-gambling.htm

Additionally if you would just like to talk to someone you're more than welcome to shoot me a PM and I'll give you my contact details, I understand how much of a problem gambling can be for some people having seen it first hand and being there to support them through it.


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