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Topic: Gauging interest. Custom Made S4/S4+ water block (Read 3397 times)

newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
this looks interesting, i'd be in for 12 (assuming you'd need 4 blocks per s4+ right?). where are you located?
sr. member
Activity: 287
Merit: 250
Global economic crisis? i hold my bitcoin..
i rather choose water block only.

hero member
Activity: 637
Merit: 502
You need 2 blocks to cool an S4+?

Please post pictures. I love watercooled miners.
hero member
Activity: 676
Merit: 501
So are these in stock and ready for ordering?  Grin

In Theory for sale, I am going to post pics this weekened, then what I need to do is get a definitive price ($45 seems to be right), and the figure out shipping for you guys...

Question is  Do you guys want a "kit" like bitmain tried to do, or do you want just the water blocks only?

I think i would wanna source my own pump kit this time around so as long as u supply the blocks with connector barbs already in place i can source my own tubing, radiator & pump.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 500
Where am I?
So are these in stock and ready for ordering?  Grin
hero member
Activity: 676
Merit: 501
I'm deff interested...

Im looking to shut my S4's noise up! I live in a unit block where we all sit right on top of each other & the people around me hate the noise i produce...

This could be a life saver in terms of cutting the noise!
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
i'm curious how many wb i can make with 1400...

i can buy cooper sheets 5mm thick, i can  make the channels or look for a cnc
braze it and test it at above 200psi!

1k for a sheet of 1m*2m*5cm 90kg....

Get it in 10mm sheet, then you can sandwich two halves together with a basic gasket in the middle. Route / drill a channel into each half and you've got yourself a block.

You only need half the block to be copper, the part touching the chips, the other half can be acetal, either clear or black.

His intention wasn't to get cooling improvements from the copper, it was to make the channel in contact with the fluid be copper / not aluminium.

da fuck are u talking about!!!

i just want to plug the miner on my mains and dump the water in a swimming pool!

alu will complicate things with the need for a heat exchanger, pump and radiator just to be safe
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1185
dogiecoin.com
i'm curious how many wb i can make with 1400...

i can buy cooper sheets 5mm thick, i can  make the channels or look for a cnc
braze it and test it at above 200psi!

1k for a sheet of 1m*2m*5cm 90kg....

Get it in 10mm sheet, then you can sandwich two halves together with a basic gasket in the middle. Route / drill a channel into each half and you've got yourself a block.

You only need half the block to be copper, the part touching the chips, the other half can be acetal, either clear or black.

His intention wasn't to get cooling improvements from the copper, it was to make the channel in contact with the fluid be copper / not aluminium.
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1220
i'm curious how many wb i can make with 1400...

i can buy cooper sheets 5mm thick, i can  make the channels or look for a cnc
braze it and test it at above 200psi!

1k for a sheet of 1m*2m*5cm 90kg....

Get it in 10mm sheet, then you can sandwich two halves together with a basic gasket in the middle. Route / drill a channel into each half and you've got yourself a block.

You only need half the block to be copper, the part touching the chips, the other half can be acetal, either clear or black.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1185
dogiecoin.com
i'm curious how many wb i can make with 1400...

i can buy cooper sheets 5mm thick, i can  make the channels or look for a cnc
braze it and test it at above 200psi!

1k for a sheet of 1m*2m*5cm 90kg....

Get it in 10mm sheet, then you can sandwich two halves together with a basic gasket in the middle. Route / drill a channel into each half and you've got yourself a block.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
i'm curious how many wb i can make with 1400...

i can buy cooper sheets 5mm thick, i can  make the channels or look for a cnc
braze it and test it at above 200psi!

1k for a sheet of 1m*2m*5cm 90kg....
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1185
dogiecoin.com
i was talking for myself

i need it in cooper so it doesn’t get more complicated with heat exchangers extra pumps and shit

So far the AL one is 55-90USD an Copper one would be 400-1400USD.... Good luck!~

Indeed. If corrosion is considered an issue then brass coat something else.
hero member
Activity: 507
Merit: 500
i was talking for myself

i need it in cooper so it doesn’t get more complicated with heat exchangers extra pumps and shit

So far the AL one is 55-90USD an Copper one would be 400-1400USD.... Good luck!~
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
So dogie was  saying the s4+ volts are fixed causing the power draw to be linear on the s4+

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11336299


Since this is the case I do not want a water block as my needs call for under clock and under volt and quiet.


hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
i was talking for myself

i need it in cooper so it doesn’t get more complicated with heat exchangers extra pumps and shit
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1185
dogiecoin.com
interested! in a cooper one, not alu!

cooper more resistant in time
big rads are cooper because of the above

Making the same block from copper as it is aluminium would increase the weight 3x and the price 9x. Increasing corrosion resistance isn't worth that.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
interested! in a cooper one, not alu!

cooper more resistant in time
big rads are cooper because of the above
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1185
dogiecoin.com
As long as you don't touch SysCooling you should do well.
If anything, you should look at a liquid cooling kit for the S5; that I would definitely buy.

Syscooling did an S5 kit. And lets be honest, they were providing entire kits for the C1 [-blocks] for less than we could buy just the radiator. You could have also bought 6 pumps from them for the same price as one of our usual retail ones. But yeah, those pumps did tend to fail a lot.
You were buying C1 radiators and pump kit parts and selling them?

No. What I mean was Syscooling was selling and shipping us entire watercooling kits for less than we could buy just the radiator in local markets.
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
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As long as you don't touch SysCooling you should do well.
If anything, you should look at a liquid cooling kit for the S5; that I would definitely buy.

Syscooling did an S5 kit. And lets be honest, they were providing entire kits for the C1 [-blocks] for less than we could buy just the radiator. You could have also bought 6 pumps from them for the same price as one of our usual retail ones. But yeah, those pumps did tend to fail a lot.
You were buying C1 radiators and pump kit parts and selling them?
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1185
dogiecoin.com
As long as you don't touch SysCooling you should do well.
If anything, you should look at a liquid cooling kit for the S5; that I would definitely buy.

Syscooling did an S5 kit. And lets be honest, they were providing entire kits for the C1 [-blocks] for less than we could buy just the radiator. You could have also bought 6 pumps from them for the same price as one of our usual retail ones. But yeah, those pumps did tend to fail a lot.
hero member
Activity: 1666
Merit: 513
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Maybe... I'm gonna be selling mine this summer before it loses too much value, only ordered it as a temp unit whilst upgrading.

As many others have stated, don't deal with SysCooling.
They killed an otherwise sweet miner, the C1.
If you must offer a kit, I suggest Darkside radiators and Swiftec pumps.
Been running non-stop for me for a few months now.
Me thinks miners learnt their lesson with cheap components.
Lucky for me, I had a pump waiting before the C1 arrived but still needed to replace the radiator, despite the pump being DOA.
Leaks really suck, even more if you didn't prepare and DOA pumps are a real flacid inducer.

As long as you don't touch SysCooling you should do well.
If anything, you should look at a liquid cooling kit for the S5; that I would definitely buy.
legendary
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
Sounds cool, eventually all home miners should take this route but it sounds pricey for the waterblock.  Is it just novelty?

Since right now the main thing holding back the S4/S4+ is overheating issues, and you can save 100w by pulling those fans, I am thinking that over all its going to allow more stable overclock/clocking of the units, and allow longer life of the chips as running at 65+ is rough on even good chips.
You still have to power the pump and fans on the cooler though, so power isn't what you're saving on.

That can be moved external to the inbuilt PSU to get more headroom is what he is suggesting, which is true.

Mech, Maybe you misunderstood, this isnt to make the S4/S4+ user less power per se, its to increase thermal tolerance, decrease thermal variations, and explore the abilities of overclocking the unit as a whole.

I agree 100% with Dogie, also you wouldn't need as aggressive fans as the case has for water cooling as the cooling properties and thermal conductivity of water is an order of magnitude greater than air.

A conservative estimation puts the S4+ with better cooling able to run in the 3.2-3.5TH range,. and we'll never reach that on Air cooling alone.



Yeah, but can the board level voltage components deliver that sort of power reliably?
legendary
Activity: 1174
Merit: 1001
Interested
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1185
dogiecoin.com
Sounds cool, eventually all home miners should take this route but it sounds pricey for the waterblock.  Is it just novelty?

Since right now the main thing holding back the S4/S4+ is overheating issues, and you can save 100w by pulling those fans, I am thinking that over all its going to allow more stable overclock/clocking of the units, and allow longer life of the chips as running at 65+ is rough on even good chips.
You still have to power the pump and fans on the cooler though, so power isn't what you're saving on.

That can be moved external to the inbuilt PSU to get more headroom is what he is suggesting, which is true.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Sounds cool, eventually all home miners should take this route but it sounds pricey for the waterblock.  Is it just novelty?

Since right now the main thing holding back the S4/S4+ is overheating issues, and you can save 100w by pulling those fans, I am thinking that over all its going to allow more stable overclock/clocking of the units, and allow longer life of the chips as running at 65+ is rough on even good chips.
You still have to power the pump and fans on the cooler though, so power isn't what you're saving on.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Sounds cool, eventually all home miners should take this route but it sounds pricey for the waterblock.  Is it just novelty?
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1220
I love that I don't see syscooling mentioned.  Please don't use any syscooling gear.

It was just a horrible company.

I wouldn't use them if they gave me the parts free.. Too many issues with AL to Cu and Cu to Brass with this stuff.....

Stick with copper/acetal and don't bother nickel plating either, thats just a pita.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1185
dogiecoin.com
I love that I don't see syscooling mentioned.  Please don't use any syscooling gear.

It was just a horrible company.

I wouldn't mind if they made the blocks, but maybe not the pumps Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
I love that I don't see syscooling mentioned.  Please don't use any syscooling gear.

It was just a horrible company.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
I would be interested.  Will these be compatible with the S4 also?



ditto to this question as the s4 are much lower in price.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 500
Where am I?
I would be interested.  Will these be compatible with the S4 also?

legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
  maybe I would go for one.  I never used water cooled miners.  Should do it once.
hero member
Activity: 507
Merit: 500
Looking with a friend at getting a custom fabricated S4+ water block, more than likely going to get Alum, instead of copper due to corrosion issues that were seen with the C1 by bitmain.

Don't have prices yet, but Ill put the leg work in and work on getting everything together if people have interest.
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