Topic: Gawminers.com really or scam ? (Read 5716 times)

The one with same-day shipping is black, quite less appealing than the red one

Plus, week 8 miners should ship in only two days.

Oh, no. I was just browsing and that's the first thing that came up. I would want the same day shipping one. I was just saying how good the price was.

It's incredible to thing, people used to buy 7950's and R9 290X/whatever for like 400,500,600 dollars. Now You can get a 27mh/s+ for $850. That's like 50x the power.

Any particular reason why you would want Week 8 instead of "same day"? I think the price is the same.

http://www.gawminers.com/products/27-mh-s-unbranded-the-falcon-by-gaw-miners-asic-scrypt-miner-free-zencontroller-same-day-shipping/

http://www.gawminers.com/products/27-mh-s-the-falcon-by-gaw-miners-asic-scrypt-miner-free-zencontroller-week-8/

Geez, that is tempting. 27Mh/s for $850 with a free zen controller.

I have the same problem!
I had 2 miners hosted at GAW and in the past 2 weeks they are not running!
I wrote to support many time but still nothing...

I'm having similar issues. They did replace one of the miners (to their credit) but the other one is malfunctioning also. I did get a response from the tech about the second miner malfunctioning, I can assume he's working on it. I sent in a ticket about some missing reward points and nothing's being done about that. I called their sales line and was hung up on by the automated software.

Yup, have a couple of hosted miners and they are all down for the past day. Been having issues with very significantly lower hash rates sporadically for the past few weeks.

I have hosted miners with GAW and have had nothing but issues the last 2 1/2 weeks..  And they wont tell us what is going on or why..     I open many tickets each day reporting the same issues over and over and over.  Actually one of their Tech guys had the nerve to tell me there was no issues going on..   WTF.....

I have lost total faith in this company and will never spend another dime with them..

I'm going to post my full conversation with your CEO, and with your support troll Andrew nuygen shortly, too bad you can't ban me here. Welcome to reality.

More to the point of their tactic I'll post my current conversation with the gawminer CEO, this guy is trolling me because I posted a complaint on their hash trader form... Wouldn't you complain if they sent you a usb cable that doesn't fit the product. Customer support at gawminer is completely retarded, the product are excellent just the people running gawminer are a bit off. Good thing they can't delete my comment on this forum or have the CEO threaten to ban me ROFL.

like my comment above, he may be a competitor of the gaw, so he continued to discredit gaw,
I own the book already experienced no constraints on gaw, their service is good,
Riview for stuff I will explain again when it comes to this week

IVE ORDERED TONS FROM THEM THEY LEGIT

It's true, I'm pretty jaded at this point and incredibly cynical when I come here to read and post now.

That's the problem with these forums.  The securites section along with the alt-coin forum are full of these shitheads.  Spamming uncredible shit daily

You were warned to stop trolling, so you made your own shitty blog, waited 2 or 3 days but nobody even bothered to read it so you came to advertise a bit and get more attention.

You call my account out by post my profile link. I enjoy post on my site now, is much nicer for writing.

Time for late lunch/early dinner, not sure which yet. >.<

I also post on Zeus but not here.

Guys, this account is a competition's sock puppet, that never bought anything from GAW and registered on bitcointalk only to post negative comments.
I contacted admins and he got warned, but apparently it wasn't enough to discourage him, why would it be? He can always make more accounts, right?

it is not clear what you convey, your new ID here jdi difficult to trust you,
if you only paid people to drop them or you really,

didnt have any problems or issues with them

Hi friend! I find thread here and you post my profile in little list above.

Not okay.

My experience not good with other companies so I look for new option. GAW buy ads so I keep seeing them, they ship international so is option. But they not good, cover up so much and hide problems. Search and you find plenty about GAW that have nothing to do with wacky panda conspiracy idea.

In fact, I so pissed I make english blog to write about it so customer can see:

https://cryptocointruth.wordpress.com/

One day I write more with Zeus, but my thunder run okay now so things better with them. Most what I post just customer complain from hashtrader forum. But GAW moderate away on there now too so no way to know what post still exist.

Grow on man panda, GAW not good people, separate yourself there.

Oh more! GAW ban me from hash forum because I make conversation there too. Forum for ideas but only if they stroke GAW.

Am yet to order with them so I  have no idea on their quality of good but seeing reviews seems their ok compared to a lot of other such as KNC and rigs blowing up or not working or units coming arrived as broken or being tampered with. I will continue to wait and see before I decided on doing anything as am sure their will be more company s to choose from soon and waiting on 3 or more to see if they are a success or are a scam

yes the wait is really boring,
but the next week we can get a cheaper price but as long wait.

if you've done many orders there?
how do you think the quality of their goods?

Nice to see more people getting their orders forfilled. The only problem I do not like is the so called pre orders. Once they have finished if they will go to buy now then ill put my orders in but until pre orders change I wont order as so tired of pre orders and waiting weeks on end before even getting equipment.

yes they are real,
I've ordered them and the goods arrived my country now live attendant deliver to my address,
and I will try their products run well

I dont think they are scammers as i have seen they are completely a full company, indeed they are one of the few mining companies on which i would trust.

Good talking to you Panda. I see you're at it again with your made up shit instead of responding on the subject. Keep going and have a nice weekend.


GAW didn't honor my RMA. It's a fact. I'm sorry you didn't like it but it's a fact. I eventually sold the defective item via craigslist to someone who knew how to fix it. And - you'll like this - I included a USB cable with it for free


Where did you offer to do that? I might have missed it. But see below.


That's because I'm clearly capable of asking "the company" myself, and did so many times via support. You keep interrogating me so it's a natural question - what do you want from me?


"you lack basic understanding of the law" - not true.
"You're working hard every day to advertise against a legitimate business" - not true.
"You're actively approaching random people and influencing their choices" - not true but perhaps by "random people" you meant forum users and by "approaching" you meant me posting here.
"you're doing this every single day since last month" - not true.
"you're either mentally unstable or paid to do it" - not true but perhaps could be classified as an opinion.


That's a long last word. Love those.

1) I already stated that I do not have any demands to you or GAW, so you can lay that to rest.
2) When the CEO asked me to stop posting in the self-moderated thread I stopped, so I respect forum rules. That doesn't mean I must like the practice of deleting posts or any of the other questionable marketing practices employed by GAW.
3) Settle? You sound dangerously close to offering me a payoff for shutting up. I hope that's just a misunderstanding. How many figures are we talking about? Just kidding, don't get all excited now.

This part should be a sticky everywhere you go posting about GAW, because it sums up this whole conversation we had.

You lie GAW doesn't respect RMA, yet you say your miners are working and are buying more "because they are cheap".

I say, get the list of things you didn't get and I'll send it to GAW for you, you ignore it.

I ask you what you want from the company you're attacking, you answer by asking me what I want from you...

What is more, you lack basic understanding of the law, you have the right to express your opinion, but what you're doing here is a different thing. You're working hard every day to advertise against a legitimate business. You're actively approaching random people and influencing their choices, and you're doing this every single day since last month. That's why I'll say this again you're either mentally unstable or paid to do it.

My opinion is you never wanted to settle with GAW, and never cared about any refund, you're having fun trolling GAW threads.

My last word to you:
1. If your order was incomplete let me know what it is that you were lacking and GAW will send it to you, I'll personally support your claim.
2. If 1 is not an issue and you're just mad because they deleted your posts in a moderated thread, they had a right to do so, by posting in a self moderated thread you agree to this, just ask a mod.
3. I'm almost certain you won't settle for any kind of compensation and will continue this black PR, you were probably already compensated by their competition. We'll see in a few days.

I don't remember you asking me that, but if you did I apologize if I didn't respond. Please give me the link and I'll post a reply right away.

I didn't pick "1 small sentence", I quoted the whole post. Twice. Bolded false statements presented as facts, but you can address it as a whole, no problem. Is it true or false, can't be that hard?

I don't have any demands, not particular enjoyment in this except occasionally something like you here trying to wiggle out of your lies, that makes me smile

Why don't you just tell us all what exactly do you want from me. Stop posting what I think? Not a chance. Stop buying from GAW? Depends on how this latest one goes. What else?

I asked you multiple times in your thread weeks ago, when you started whining, why you don't want to return the hardware and get a refund, but was ignored.

And of course I bet I won't get that list of demands from you, simply because you're enjoying this whole thing. You're an attention seeker and like going back and forth with me and attacking a legitimate business.
And you just proved this by picking just 1 small sentence out of my post and ignoring the rest.

Why don't you just tell us all what exactly do you want? Because otherwise we won't get anywhere.

This here is pretty much one big lie:


I asked you a couple of times to specifically address the bolded parts, since those were stated as facts known to you, but are not true, therefore lies. The rest of it is bollocks too although could be considered an opinion.

Yes there were other people who didn't get some minor thing like a cable but all of them contacted GAW and were taken care of. If you were this 1/1000 who didn't then I'm sorry, if you needed money to buy some $10 cables you should have just said so. Hell, I would've sent it to you myself if I could avoid arguing with you for 2 months.


In the last 2 months I've read at least 10 posts of people who had some issues, chose RMA option, and later posted that they got what they wanted, so I don't know what went wrong in your case.

Yeah, I can see you have a problem with GAW and me. A normal, sane person, would just say he's not satisfied, doesn't recommend the company and go on with his life.
You are deliberately working against GAW. Yes working, sitting here every day posting negative comments about them, researching threads where people ask about GAW to spread some negativity.

I never lied to anybody, and I loved your comparison, I wonder if you also spend an hour every day whining about GM

Edit: I have an idea. If you had problems contacting the support, why don't you just list the "missing parts" and pm me with it, I'll ask the support to check it out and send you the refund (strangely I always got my answer within hours.) If you had to buy an additional connector or whatever to keep your miners running add that as well. If you really don't have an agenda here we should be able to finish quickly and go separate ways.

Again, the part where I said I ordered "a lot" from GAW? Hello? You seem to be focused on your own version where there was only one order so it has to be either this or that.



Again, you should at the very least read the info you're disputing. The miners were fine with some minor exceptions. Gridseed cupcakes, Gridseed blades, haven't got the Fury yet but it's a Zeus Blizzard so I know what to expect.

I had problems with missing parts, orders delivered weeks late, non-existent RMA process, hosting hardware not working, etc. "delivered a product" does not absolve of any of that. "send it back" is not always a solution. Which part of this you still need help with?

I also have a problem with GAW (and you) deliberately lying to its existing and prospective customers. Again, if you had read the start of "my thread" you'd see that what prompted to start it was not an order issue. It was GAW deleting posts, which to my opinion is a dishonest practice employed to shore up company's public image and avoid addressing issues. And if that was a single isolated incident it would have died right there right then.

"people you clearly hate" - you seem to be taking this too personally. I don't "hate", I'm not 13 yo and not in a sect. I ordered from a business that I initially respected but now not so much. I have a low opinion of the CEO of said business and their marketing practices and customer service. Frankly I don't think too highly of Mary Barra or GMs service either but I rented a Chevy recently - that must be so weird.

Care to address the "inside knowledge" tidbits you posted earlier? One word - true or false?

I asked because you wrote this:


Now you're saying you actually did get it...

Ok, we're getting somewhere here. My next question is:
If you didn't like the miner why not send it back like a normal customer? Why spend 2 months insulting people who, as you just admitted, delivered a product?
And finally, why after all these months of whining and deliberate black PR, did you order another miner from people you clearly hate?

I bet I'm not the only one that thinks it's weird.

As far as I know everyone has been receiving their miners without issue.

Panda, if you had read at least the first couple of posts in "my thread" that you keep mentioning, you would know the answer to your question. Yes, I have received "something" from GAW.

I already told you I purchased the Fury because I needed it for a project and it was cheap. Don't know what else you feel is wrong with that. That I know what kind of delivery and service to expect so I can weigh the risk against the price? Are you now not only establishing qualifying criteria on who can post about GAW, but also on who can buy from them?

Just a few posts ago you stated in a clearly "matter of fact" context that I'm not dealing with GAW in any way, that I've been offered refund(s) - which allegedly I didn't want, that I refused to send some order back. It sounded like you have some inside knowledge except none of it was true. I wanted to address that but I should have known that your propensity to make stuff up as you go will lead this to another "brick wall".

I have ordered several fury miners to Canada and got them no problem Also ordered week 4 miners that I am waiting for now. The support I can say will go out of there way to make you happy and ensure your not loosing out money. Yes the support is busy at times and takes a bit to get through but I would recommend this company to anyone.

dogecoinbruh, if you have time look around hashmaster.com, gaw's own forum in its third iteration. It's getting out of hand apparently so they yanked all the various complaint threads and merged them (kudos for not deleting everything altogether). Which prompted more complaint threads now complaining about complaint threads being merged . It's hilarious although I have to give it to them, they are trying to plug all these holes in the dam with all their fingers and toes.

Hey Panda, a few questions:

I've been trying to find some background information on these companies, one of which being GAWminers. I'm sure you know Reactor, as he posts regularly here. How can such an active member of the bitcointalk community have such problems with GAW unless they were true? Why would he make up stuff about GAW and potentially ruin his reputation; I don't buy that he could have been hired by a competitor. Even if he was bought off, his claims could have been easily been poked full of holes in he was in fact spreading FUD.

Why were they deleting all his posts? Why delete posts at all unless you don't want anyone seeing them. Why not delete all the questions regarding orders too (the ones that were actually making that thread unsearchable). To top if off, they created their own SELFMODERATED thread. That's a red flag if I've ever seen one. Leave the arguably most active cryptocurrency forum to make your own forum so you can moderate threads and delete bad posts? That's BS and you know it.

Then, there's the case with Gridseed. Apparently their CEO got into an argument with Gridseed regarding compensation for customers, and ended up cutting ties with them. I remember reading the whole essay Josh posted about it, thinking to myself "Wow, this guy is really going to bat for his customers" which made me consider them in the first place. That post has since been deleted on their self moderated thread I believe, and they've created their own self moderated forums (go figure). They've been selling Blades again for awhile now, needless to say, I guess Josh made up with Gridseed.

This guy seems to be either the most customer oriented CEO in the world, or the mega king of bullshitters. I hope the first is true. I really do hope that the "conspiracy theories" you're talking about are exactly that, conspiracy theories.

I was going to order from GAW but saw all the posts saying how bad their service is (sending Pi's separately and not changing the values for customs? rookie mistake guys) on multiple sub reddits and here on bitcointalk.

I completely understand you're just a contracted worker offering tech support for them, but defending the company so vehemently makes it look like they're on the defensive, which shouldn't be the case. If this was all lies and FUD, they've had to respond to it once and ignore it from there. At least that's how it should be handled in my professional opinion.

Also, before you comment on how I'm a new account, I'd like to state it here. This is a new account, I've only before been a lurker on bitcointalk, but decided to make an account for posting today.

I'm not trolling or trying to spread FUD. I just want to know if you can answer any of this, if you can't, that's understandable. I'm sure they don't let you into their boardroom meetings or anything.

All that said, I love the panda picture, god damnit I love pandas....

Thinking to buy here but waiting for reviews off others to decide on buying from gawminers if theirs no pre order and shipping next day like antminers do then I might conciser it but until that day comes's I will never do pre orders again for buying mining hardware.

You missed the parts where I said "A LOT" and "dozens" of tickets, and pretty much every other part of my post. Wanna know the full sordid details ask your GAW buddies to take a peek at their support tickets, since you are not listening to anything I'm saying.

Who said anything about victims, I was talking about the effect of your actions. I'm not representing GAW, you are. Talking crap about GAW and discouraging people from buying their products? You are doing a much better job at it than I ever did. Please go on, keep yelling at people who disagree with you, call them liars and trolls, make shit up when you run out of arguments, and you'll fit right in with the fine folks at GAW.

I can't believe what I'm reading. You ordered hardware, didn't get it, yet you went on and ordered more because it was cheap?
So did you finally get anything from GAW or not?

Let's clarify some things and hopefully end this quarrel:
You started your anti GAW thread on the 27.03 - this means you've placed your order before this date.

I find it hard to believe you didn't get anything and placed another order a month later.

As for my attitude towards you I'd like to remind you that for the last 2 months, you've been posting crap about GAW almost every day, like a hardworking employee, doing whatever you could to discourage people from buying their products. There were people with issues in that thread, like in any other hardware sale, and all of them finally got what they wanted and went on with their lives, but not you. You kept coming back every day with some more whining to keep the thread afloat and keep your post count up in the meantime.
Finally, when I started answering you in that thread, what was your response? You went through my old posts trying to find something to use against me, and now you 're playing the victim saying I'm attacking you.


Thanks and same to you, you'll need it.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/updownbt-signature-campaign-scam-656074

A bit - actually a good lump - of revisionist history there. Thankfully there are unmoderated threads out there where I have explained my story with GAW and my motivation behind the criticism. tl;dr version for my friend panda here:


Now I'm not naive to expect that this will somehow encourage you to stop making shit up about me. I do hope however that your incessant attacks on me will make some prospective GAW customers look deeper and develop realistic expectations about dealing with GAW, and not just look at the shiny facade it's been propping up. Good luck with your signature campaign, don't be so bitter about my sig, you wouldn't want me in your campaign anyway

they're real friends,
I just ordered a 1.3 MH fury and stuff I'll order a few more days,
they send with DHL services


so I think your question is too horrible,
always think positive and learn to trust others 

I understand, I didn't say he is. Sorry if I confused you.

I called him a troll because he posts negative stuff about GAW for a few weeks, yet he's not dealing with GAW in any way.
He bought something from them, wasn't satisfied with the service and was offered a refund, like any other unhappy customer, but he didn't want it. What he wanted was to spend an hour or more each day discrediting GAW in their thread (although as I said he got his order and refused to send it back).

So either he was approached by the competition and asked to continue his negative campaign or is just frustrated. (probably both) Why?

He came to the GAW announcement thread and started posting his personal stuff there, which got deleted, but since he was in a pay per post campaign he was losing money every time it happened, so he started his own thread to keep his posts rolling.

And this is the quintessence of moon.

Hey, I'm just saying moon isn't a sock puppet, he spends time doing other things than complaining about GAW.

There's a whole army of trolls who posted crap about GAW, all new accounts with either no post history or a history of 1 word spam, followed by posts in the GAW thread. I'm 100% sure about these:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/arthur-jones-341923
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/octave1-337896
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mellgibs-124250

Three new accounts, never dealt with the company they were working so hard to discredit. I've seen similar activity in other equipment seller's threads. New people claiming they had bad experience with the company, unable to give details about their order. But yeah, as moon said it's a conspiracy theory.

I don't think moon is a troll, he posts in many other threads and provides some useful info in them. Now the other guy, he is pure troll with his sock puppet account.

Yup I'm calling you a troll because that's what you were doing in every single GAW thread on this forum. It must be your part time job because you're spending at least an hour a day writing about GAW.

And you are even able to double your income by posting with a paid sig, that's creative!

Speaking of lies, how is week 4 shipping and hosting going? DHL still mining with GAW hardware in Hong Kong, or whatever the latest status was?

I'm sorry to say this but you haven't been doing too well with this countering thing. It consists mostly of yelling "trolls! lies! shells! (whatever that is)". The CEO at least had sparks of creativity when it came to excuses, you're not up to speed panda gal.

You know what you did in the thread yesterday, If that's not trolling then what?
I'll answer you in your own words.



Yes I'll personally message them right now and ask about your shipment. And keep your curses to yourself.

That's exactly why I run the campaign, have a lot of time to spend on the forums, so why not get a few $ for managing the campaign? This doesn't make me an employee, I previously run the same campaign for GAW's competition.

And since I'm doing this and have their signature I feel personally responsible to counter any lies said about them here by trolls like this moon guy.

Panda is not an employee.

This is a very good example of what GAW is all about. Ad hominem attacks and conspiracy theories, when a dissenting opinion is encountered and there is no "delete" option.

Yup, that's what I just said, pure trolling and lies, you keep roaming the forums looking for any thread about GAW to leave your negative comment. Don't have time to count but probably 50% of your forum activity is writing crap about this company.

As for thread bumping, look who's talking. I've seen you bump your own posts with shell accounts, sad but true.

Finding real information was indeed a problem but for an entirely different reason - there wasn't (and still isn't) much "real" coming out of GAW. Please continue bumping this thread.

The thread was made to serve as a place for questions and announcements and was closed because trolls like you were spamming there every day, making it impossible to find any real information.

You should know that the thread was being heavily moderated and eventually GAW left bitcointalk altogether. Here is how unmoderated feedback looks like:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gaw-miners-scryptsha256-miners-and-hashlet-cloud-independent-feedback-thread-537912

I can confirm that my Fury works perfectly, both with the zenMiner or directly with the PC.
It's only flaw is that it's louder than I imagined, but that's not a big problem. I get virtually no discarded shares, hashrate is constant at 1,3 mh/s, the device does not run hot, and support is very responsive.

I'd definitely recommend it

I've put in like $6000 worth of orders from them. They are a little slower than competitors, but good customer service. They haven't scammed me out of any money, just shipped out my latest order a week late and seems to have no idea why. 

I just purchased 30 units from them to Canada. I'll let you know too.

Gawminers is not a scam. I ordered from them and have received product pretty quick too.

fury release dated June 16, should I wait for info from those who have already received the goods they ordered 

I had a few things shipped from them. Thy had included everything they advertised on the site and price was the best part. Shipping was not delayed either. Will definitely buy from them again.

All awesome so far! Yea - not a scam company!

They are real and I've ordered a bunch of Blades and the new asics. Some hosted some delivered and I will buy more. I don't understand why you jumped right in with a scam question in the title when a little looking around here or reddit would have given you an answer.

Hi!

We have thousands of customers and hundreds of reviews. We take CC as well as BTC (unlike most companies).

You can find our closed thread here with 138 pages of content and over 380,000 views:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gaw-community-is-located-at-communitygawminerscom-529093

Thanks so much and happy mining!

Rami
CMO
GAWMiners.com

thanks for answering. If you've received the order you give the information back to me.
your thoughts there are other sites that recommendation?
and reliable?

I just ordered 3 GAW miners - Should ship out in 10 days!.

Use coupon codes and buy 1 at a time - First order was Fury miner - Retailme15  - I got $15 off - So the miner was $110
The next two orders I used code - comebackfor10  - and got them for $115 each.

No shipping charges and tax is included in the price.

I don't know yet on my personal experience - as I have not received the product yet.

But I did do a lot of research around on various companies and have bought from Zoomhash in the past (good experience).

I have read a lot of reviews about GAWminers and there are mixed opinions about them.

But for the price - I decided to give them a chance. Getting 3.9Mh/s for $342 bucks - best deal out there right now as far as I can see - At least for the small miners.
Better pricing then the Blades.

sorry,
I ask this because a lot of news out there that are not clear about this site. who can provide information please comment on this