George Soros is now officially trading bitcoin. Good or bad?

ipanks

hero member

Activity: 1610

Merit: 507

Quote from: Lee_Mire on July 01, 2021, 02:24:07 AM

OK, so George Soros is now officially trading bitcoin at his investment firm Soros Fund Management. His intentions are unclear but he is well known for being a ruthless financier. Do you think this a good or bad thing for bitcoin?

If Soros is officially trading bitcoin, it seems he tempting to make money from bitcoin. Maybe that is good for bitcoin as that can influence bitcoin to Soros friends Grin

If Soros is interested in bitcoin's volatility, he wants to try to enter the crypto market and if he can make a lot of money from bitcoin, he can support bitcoin. If that can happens, bitcoin will grow more and it can reach more users out there.

Vaculin

hero member

Activity: 2940

Merit: 613

Winding down.

Quote from: Lee_Mire on July 01, 2021, 02:24:07 AM

OK, so George Soros is now officially trading bitcoin at his investment firm Soros Fund Management. His intentions are unclear but he is well known for being a ruthless financier. Do you think this a good or bad thing for bitcoin?

Maybe I'm going to say sorry for not knowing him but I think it is not important.
Anyway, let him experience trading so he could tell his friends that trading is the best place to stay for rich people that wanted to lose their money in a very short period of time. And hopefully, he could find trading is not an easy game like you can easily manipulate the market without knowledge about crypto.

He needs attention, then much better to welcome him.
Welcome George to trading and I hope you will find it comfortable.

Welsh

staff

Activity: 3304

Merit: 4115

Quote from: dkbit98 on July 02, 2021, 07:59:02 AM

Money is just a paper or number on the screen, and this can all be gone in second in some financial collapse, like in Lebanon now for example.
Money is not really control because money is controlled by only few individuals and corporations.

That's somewhat true. It can definitely be made pointless in an event of a economical collapse, but I also think its completely relevant, and contributes to the amount of control a person or corporation has up until that point.

Quote from: dkbit98 on July 02, 2021, 07:59:02 AM

You don't have to agree with me, but read and investigate how many countries Soros destroyed, and he is just using money as one of his tools for destruction and control of the people.

I'm not trying to disagree with you. You've brought up some valid points. I just think that the point stands that at the moment whilst money is relevant, it does directly correlate with control. Although, I don't know the intentions of Soros'anymore than the next guy, and I might be underestimating the significance of this. Plus, I don't doubt that someone has powerful as Soros' wants to benefit directly from his investments, and is looking for both control, and money.

dkbit98

legendary

Activity: 2212

Merit: 7064

Quote from: Welsh on July 01, 2021, 05:16:57 PM

Money is control. Our world is run on money.

Money is just a paper or number on the screen, and this can all be gone in second in some financial collapse, like in Lebanon now for example.
Money is not really control because money is controlled by only few individuals and corporations.

Quote from: Welsh on July 01, 2021, 05:16:57 PM

Therefore off course its important. Otherwise, we would see less millionaires/billionaires tax evading. So, claiming money not being important past a certain point, I would disagree.

You don't have to agree with me, but read and investigate how many countries Soros destroyed, and he is just using money as one of his tools for destruction and control of the people.

jesselui

full member

Activity: 854

Merit: 109

Trident Protocol | Simple «buy-hold-earn» system!

The rich buy cheap and sell expensive, that's their only purpose. He will want to buy Bitcoin at these prices and sell it more expensive. It will use its power to increase its price.

Lucius

legendary

Activity: 3234

Merit: 5637

Blackjack.fun-Free Raffle-Join&Win $50🎲

When I see that the main news these days is what Soros or Buffett is doing, then I know that people are obviously getting terribly desperate trying to convince themselves that these two old farts will help them to pump the price of BTC. People who are with one foot in the grave are not the ones we need to look at as factors of any change in the world for the better.

All these stories about how the rich share their wealth serve only to wash the conscience of all the bad things they have done during their lives - the farther they are from Bitcoin, the better for all of us.

Tristan Bieber

jr. member

Activity: 83

Merit: 3

Soros is definitely not a simple financial investor. Everyone may have heard that Soros shorted the entire Southeast Asian market and triggered a financial turmoil in Asia. This happened more than once, so it may not be the same for such a person to enter the crypto market. A good thing, if he becomes the next Musk, it may not be beneficial to most retail investors, but it will also have a positive impact. If more and more giant whales participate, it may be scattered. For market manipulation, the ultimate goal of businessmen’s participation is to make a profit. If market conditions remain bad, it will also affect their interests.

dota2bestplayer

jr. member

Activity: 88

Merit: 3

This should be based on a short-term or long-term upward trend, because the price of BTC has such a big relationship with other projects, so more BTC capital investment can help other projects grow. I think this is closely related to both. Soros wants to make money and wants to invest, so it is good for us to let him join. But he will definitely manipulate the market, hoping that the price fluctuations at that time will not affect the sentiments of other investors.
As more and more giants join, manipulating prices will become more difficult.

Welsh

staff

Activity: 3304

Merit: 4115

Quote from: dkbit98 on July 01, 2021, 07:50:38 AM

Money is not important to you if you can have it as much as you want or print it to infinity, but you can always have more control and it seems that is what turns on some rich people.

Money is control. Our world is run on money.

Therefore off course its important. Otherwise, we would see less millionaires/billionaires tax evading. So, claiming money not being important past a certain point, I would disagree. We don't know their goals, and quite evidently, they don't just hang up their boots for a lack of a better phrase. Myself, it wouldn't be important past a certain point, since I'd probably retire, and just enjoy my life not having to worry about anything, but that's no the attitude of these individuals, and they continue to look for opportunities to earn money. I think money is, and always will be important to them.

stompix

legendary

Activity: 2912

Merit: 6403

Blackjack.fun

Official...what is official about this?
All news point to this source:

https://www.thestreet.com/crypto/news/soros-fund-management-is-trading-bitcoin

Quote

A prescient comment, as it turns out. Fitzpatrick, chief investment officer for Soros Fund Management, in recent weeks gave the internal green light to actively trade Bitcoin and perhaps other cryptocurrencies, according to two people with knowledge of the matter.

So they might have allowed their traders to trade bitcoins and those might or might not have done so.

Besides, it's the traders that work for Soros Fund Management that would do this, not Soros himself as some imply, common, the guy is 91!!! do you really think he is up at his desk at 8 am opening his laptop and putting sell and buy orders on Binance? Grin

Common, I think the guy is more concerned about waking up the next day rather than bitcoin trading.

dkbit98

legendary

Activity: 2212

Merit: 7064

Quote from: Welsh on July 01, 2021, 07:30:24 AM

The only reason he would want to manipulate the market would be to profit off of it. This could potentially be the reason they are investing, although I don't think George Soro' has as much influence of other investors that are currently invested in Bitcoin. Therefore, he's unlikely to manipulate it significantly, unless its from volatility due to the amount invested.

Money is not important to you if you can have it as much as you want or print it to infinity, but you can always have more control and it seems that is what turns on some rich people.
For example BlackRock and Vanguard Group are two largest asset management firms in the world that own almost everything you can imagine and they are both largest stake holders in Microstrategy, holding over 23%, they also control mainstream media and big pharma industry.
Soros Fund Management owns a lot of shares of BlackRock so think about that, he controls much more than you think.

lepbagong

full member

Activity: 2268

Merit: 121

Enterapp Pre-Sale Live - bit.ly/3UrMCWI

Quote from: Lee_Mire on July 01, 2021, 02:24:07 AM

OK, so George Soros is now officially trading bitcoin at his investment firm Soros Fund Management. His intentions are unclear but he is well known for being a ruthless financier. Do you think this a good or bad thing for bitcoin?

actually there is no prohibition against anyone wanting to trade bitcoin because all have the same rights and obviously he has a lot of capital and fame that can affect what is said and done.
in business everything can be done with the aim of making profit and he is the same as @elonmusk with his Tesla company.

but all returned to those who have indeed become investors and often trade, for the past with the behavior of people who want to seek temporary profits. by using what one has to influence a large number of people, it is no longer the case. because it is clearly not good for crypto development. so it is returned to all investors whether they can reduce it so that it will not be influenced again later.

Welsh

staff

Activity: 3304

Merit: 4115

Likely irrelevant in the long term, and might result in some instability, and price swings in the short term depending on timing of investment, and how much is invested. You could argue that price swings are good for you in the short term, or not. Really does depend on the individual, and your specific goals. Although, as for the longevity of Bitcoin, it might help with exposure, and might encourage some adoption, but other than that it shouldn't have a big impact on it.

Quote from: dkbit98 on July 01, 2021, 07:29:35 AM

George Soros don't care about making more money because he has more than enough of it, but he does care about controlling everything and he is obviously not controlling Bitcoin.
All we can expect from his fund is to manipulate the market or add some more strict regulations for Bitcoin, so I don't see this as anything positive for Bitcoin and crypto.
This Soros Fund Management donated $10 million to Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign and we all know how that end up, but they, they also acquired a stake in Lehman Brothers just before their failure in 2008.

The only reason he would want to manipulate the market would be to profit off of it. This could potentially be the reason they are investing, although I don't think George Soro' has as much influence of other investors that are currently invested in Bitcoin. Therefore, he's unlikely to manipulate it significantly, unless its from volatility due to the amount invested.

dkbit98

legendary

Activity: 2212

Merit: 7064

George Soros don't care about making more money because he has more than enough of it, but he does care about controlling everything and he is obviously not controlling Bitcoin.
All we can expect from his fund is to manipulate the market or add some more strict regulations for Bitcoin, so I don't see this as anything positive for Bitcoin and crypto.
This Soros Fund Management donated $10 million to Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign and we all know how that end up, but they, they also acquired a stake in Lehman Brothers just before their failure in 2008.
He does not care about Bitcoin or decentralization so beware of anything this fossil is doing.

CryptoStar19

jr. member

Activity: 70

Merit: 2

Quote from: Lee_Mire on July 01, 2021, 02:24:07 AM

OK, so George Soros is now officially trading bitcoin at his investment firm Soros Fund Management. His intentions are unclear but he is well known for being a ruthless financier. Do you think this a good or bad thing for bitcoin?

Naturally any firm that begins to be involved in the crypto space is a great thing for bitcoin. It is this further degree of institutional involvement that has been the defining feature of this bitcoin cycle as compared with the prior ones and over long term, this would only be further the case as bitcoin and crypto in general has become a more widely accepted investment asset.

yazher

hero member

Activity: 2268

Merit: 588

You own the pen

Quote from: Lee_Mire on July 01, 2021, 02:24:07 AM

OK, so George Soros is now officially trading bitcoin at his investment firm Soros Fund Management. His intentions are unclear but he is well known for being a ruthless financier. Do you think this a good or bad thing for bitcoin?

With the current state of the market, we really need that kind of people who can influence bitcoins even more. As you can see, when they invested in Bitcoin, you cannot say it's all bad rather it's good because this will promote the investment of bitcoin in a large audience and large followers such as Soros will technically make the flow of the market even nicer. As you can see, it's a battle of those people who have a large number of followers because it turns out that whatever they say, will affect the flow of the market.

avikz

legendary

Activity: 3080

Merit: 1500

Quote from: Lee_Mire on July 01, 2021, 02:24:07 AM

OK, so George Soros is now officially trading bitcoin at his investment firm Soros Fund Management. His intentions are unclear but he is well known for being a ruthless financier. Do you think this a good or bad thing for bitcoin?

As per some sources, Soros Fund management LLC manages assets worth over 5.3 billion usd. So such kind of money mongers are never a good news for the crypto market. While Soros is just trying to make some more money, it will be much easier for him to manipulate the market for his own gain. With this kind of money in pocket, it's never a good news for small traders like us. We have already seen what money power can do here in case of Elon Musk, so I personally wouldn't want another billionaire to jump into crypto market for sure!

Kittygalore

member

Activity: 868

Merit: 63

I don't know much about this Soros personality but I am pretty sure that if he is going to put a lot of money in trading, I think it will be bad for us retail investors because we are susceptible to getting caught in big waves when whales drop. But for the market, I think this is a good thing.

Yogee

sr. member

Activity: 1554

Merit: 413

Many traders and investors in the traditional markets have been laughing at BTC calling it a bubble and that's still happening today. Some of them usually points out that if crypto is a legitimate investment then why does wealthy people like Buffet avoid it? Soros comes to the picture - their argument weakens.

Quote from: kryptqnick on July 01, 2021, 05:05:06 AM

...If there's just Elon Musk, his impact is very high. But if there are also others like Soros, if one of them goes bullish or bearish, it'll affect the market less.

I like this thought and I actually love to see them lock horns.

NotATether

legendary

Activity: 1568

Merit: 6660

bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org

You should include the source next time you copy and paste something (including if the reddit author was you, to avoid confusion): https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/obh1iz/george_soros_is_now_officially_trading_bitcoin/

Anyway, Soros is known to accumulate enormous amounts of currency and then shorting them on the pretense the currency will be devalued, when that country has a financial crisis.

For this to work, it's necessary that signs pointing to a crisis be known in advance for several months, which is easy to see with government-issued currencies (British pound sterling stands out in this regard). With cryptocurrencies there's usually no advanced warning signs that a huge downtrend such as this one will occur, the events happen in short sequence either instantaneously ("We regret to inform that Tesla will no longer accept bitcoin as a payment method" tweet) or over the course of several days ("Bitcoin mining is bad for the environment" or "US law enforcement seizes Colonial Pipeline ransom from Darkside").

famososMuertos

legendary

Activity: 1918

Merit: 3047

LE ☮︎ Halving es la purga

Quote from: Lee_Mire on July 01, 2021, 02:24:07 AM

OK, so George Soros is now officially trading bitcoin at his investment firm Soros Fund Management. His intentions are unclear but he is well known for being a ruthless financier. Do you think this a good or bad thing for bitcoin?

[maybe]These old millionaires come to have fun with bitcoin in a personal bet with another millionaire or billionaire in this case[/maybe] by the way you made me google his name:
https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/george-soros

Quote

Why is billionaire George Soros a bogeyman for the hard right?

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-49584157

It is always good to make the reference, you cannot know everyone, if I do read this man a bit you can understand his question of whether he is good or bad, let's say there are quite a few grays in his environment.

bryant.coleman

legendary

Activity: 3766

Merit: 1217

As far as I know, George Soros is opposed to the very idea of cryptocurrency and I don't expect a change in position from him anytime soon. Now coming to Soros Fund Management, I think that other players may also be involved in making the decisions. Also, we need to check whether their involvement with cryptocurrency is direct, or through intermediaries. I am being so skeptical, because the posters here have a habit of using fake news as clickbait. I normally don't believe these posts, unless I could confirm them from Forbes or Bloomberg.

passwordnow

hero member

Activity: 3136

Merit: 591

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Every big guy is free to trade whenever they want. And this only signifies that he cannot ignore the market of bitcoin for which he can trade and that means money to him. Nothing to expect if there's a known guy gets into bitcoin and they've announced their interest to trade because everyone does what they also do. The main difference is that they're known and they've got loads of money as their capital to start which can make them more money too as they trade.

kryptqnick

legendary

Activity: 3248

Merit: 1402

Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!

I don't mind him being involved in BTC trading. Of course, it's profit-oriented, but if there are more people like this, their marginal utility, so to speak, decreases. If there's just Elon Musk, his impact is very high. But if there are also others like Soros, if one of them goes bullish or bearish, it'll affect the market less. Also, I sympathize with Soros a bit because while he's very rich, he tries to help out other people by donating lots of money to good causes, so I think it's good for BTC reputation to have such names backing it up. According to Wikipedia,

Quote

He has also donated 64% of his original fortune, making him the most generous giver (when measured as a percentage of net worth), and distributed more than $15 billion through his Open Society Foundations (an international grantmaking network that supports advancing justice, education, public health and independent media).

Kong Hey Pakboy

member

Activity: 1120

Merit: 68

It's both a good and a bad in my opinion because as you have said, Soros is a ruthless financier meaning that with his money he can probably move the market to his liking and have people get in and fatten up the prices and pull out all the money and profit out of the losses of those who followed. It's good because it means that the market will have more players on the field and the prices are going to up.

yhiaali3

legendary

Activity: 1848

Merit: 1982

Fully Regulated Crypto Casino

George Soros is one of the most famous businessmen in the world and of course he is on the Forbes list of the world's rich, he is known to be a very successful businessman, but I don't think he is very interested in adopting bitcoin, in the end there will not be much difference between him and Elon Musk, both of them are looking for profit and double their money.
Of course, this news will have a good effect in the beginning because a big rich businessman joins the Bitcoin club, but soon he starts manipulating prices like Elon Musk to make more profits.

Yaunfitda

hero member

Activity: 2870

Merit: 594

Quote from: Lee_Mire on July 01, 2021, 02:24:07 AM

OK, so George Soros is now officially trading bitcoin at his investment firm Soros Fund Management. His intentions are unclear but he is well known for being a ruthless financier. Do you think this a good or bad thing for bitcoin?

50/50, this old and traditional fart just wanted to make money out of this market. Maybe they have been observing from the background for many years and just decided that it is about time to enter and play the market as whales. Although it might bring more investors to the market because of this news, but I would be very cautious. In the end whales like him, can manipulate the price in their favor or can have shills to spread FUD so that they can buy cheap cryptos.

acener

full member

Activity: 1274

Merit: 115

★Bitvest.io★ Play Plinko or Invest!

Quote from: NeuroticFish on July 01, 2021, 02:29:00 AM

Quote from: Lee_Mire on July 01, 2021, 02:24:07 AM

His intentions are unclear but he is well known for being a ruthless financier. Do you think this a good or bad thing for bitcoin?

His intentions are 100% clear: he wants to make even more money.

It is clear that when big names enter vrypto it is always for the profit,
It is always a good thing for crypto when people enter the market it is for the growth of crypto industry,
It doesn't matter if it's big or small investor they are contributing to the growth and sometimes publicity of crypto.

NeuroticFish

legendary

Activity: 3668

Merit: 6382

Looking for campaign manager? Contact icopress!

Quote from: Lee_Mire on July 01, 2021, 02:24:07 AM

His intentions are unclear but he is well known for being a ruthless financier. Do you think this a good or bad thing for bitcoin?

His intentions are 100% clear: he wants to make even more money.

It may be good as advertising for Bitcoin. It may be bad for the price fluctuations and market manipulation, but we already have that so he cannot do much worse.
I'd say that's it's good and bad at the same level. Nothing impressive.

Lee_Mire

jr. member

Activity: 56

Merit: 13

OK, so George Soros is now officially trading bitcoin at his investment firm Soros Fund Management. His intentions are unclear but he is well known for being a ruthless financier. Do you think this a good or bad thing for bitcoin?

Topic: George Soros is now officially trading bitcoin. Good or bad? (Read 187 times)