Topic: German Bundesliga Season 22/23 - Discussion & Prediction Thread (Read 963 times)

Actually I think Vlahovic can also be added to this list. He can also play as a complete forward in my opinion. He is a pretty young striker just as Osimhen also. Kane is definitely one step ahead due to his being very experienced solid striker. But he is about to become 30 in a month so the amount Tottenham demand for him is just too much.

Instead of spending that much money on Kane, Bayern Munich should go for Osimhen by paying the nearly same amount of money. Or they can just go for Vlahovic who can cost way lower than the other two alternatives. If Bayern Munich don't intend to splurge on a striker too much then Vlahovic is really much more favorable.

Baumgartner is a beyond what people understand levels of talent people are sleeping on. With Leipzig I think he will be able to show a lot more of his talents, this kid is only 22 years old I believe and he has skillset of much older players, he plays with fire and he plays with wisdom.

I bet you that after they buy him, and make him play for a few seasons alone, he is going to shine so much that he has a potential to be bought by the huge clubs. He may end up with Real Madrid, city, PSG, Bayern type of club where he will worth 100 million one day. Maybe I am wrong, after all I am not a scout, but Leipzig got a big future star with that transfer and they did the right thing, definitely the move of the summer that will have the biggest impact.

I agree with your thoughts on this. I'm sure all Bayern Munich fans would agree. And I would like to add that there are a few strikers in the world that fit your description. There is no alternative other than Harry Kane and Osimhen. I think Harry Kane could create a second Lewandowski effect for them. But Osimhen's style of play may not be directly compatible with Bayern Munich. Osimhen could create a second Sadio Mane effect for Bayern Munich. I think Harry Kane is the best alternative for them. They finished this season as champions without a good forward. But they may not do the same next season. They have to transfer a good striker. And Harry Kane is the best name for them.

two transfers were completed today within the bundesliga.
Raphael Guerreiro has joined bayern münchen on a free transfer from bor. dortmund. the 26-yo portuguese international has signed a contract there until the summer of 2026.
and secondly, Christoph Baumgartner is moving from tsg hoffenheim to rb leipzig. the transfer fee for the austrian midfielder amounts to €24 million plus bunos payments. the 23-yo CB has signed a contract with this year's dfb pokal winners until 2028.

getting a great striker like Lewandowski is something that until now has not been fulfilled by Bayern. there are even rumors that Sadio Mane will leave Bayern because his performance at Bayern does not match the expectations of management and fans.


I read in an article that Bayern in the coming season will focus on young strikers because they also haven't found a replacement for Lewandowski, we'll see how the news goes, however, Bayern will have to fight hard to improve their performance.

Bayern Munich players don't cost a fortune but their qualities are extremely valuable. Bayern Munich has estimated finances for the transfer market, and it is extremely likely that they would scout potential players for the club. Bayern manager Thomas Tuchel prevailed in a few accolades with his new club, and he is working hard to take the club to new heights with the addition of new players to his roster. Bayern Munich is a top elite club in the Bundesliga, with the best league performance. The Bavarians have been looking for a great striker since the departure of Robert Lewandowski, and they have missed his presence in the Allianz Arena.

I don't know how much transfer budget Bayern Munich would like to allocate for the striker transfer. But no matter what they are in need of strengthening the lineup with a solid striker. It would be much better if we see them going for a complete forward. They have played with Lewandowski for years and become really successful in this time period. He has always had the biggest role in their successes. Considering that they are aware of the importance of making such transfer there are a couple of good players in the market.

But most of them would cost Bayern Munich quite high sum of money. If they don't plan to make many big transfers maybe they can be willing to pay a sum over 100 million for a striker.

there are things that are very difficult to understand, why did they dismiss Daniel Farke when mönchengladbach had an acceptable performance, mönchengladbach finished in 10th place in the bundesliga, what did the club's management expect? Could it be that the objective of the Mönchengladbach management is for the team to get a place in the Bundesliga? but for that to happen, mönchengladbach would have to overcome strong opponents like the top 6 teams from last season, something that I don't believe mönchengladbach would be able to do, for me the problem with mönchengladbach is not in the coach, but in the lack of investment in good players so that they are

strong to compete with the big 6 teams in the bundesliga, anyway we'll see next season how the new coach will do, if he doesn't perform well, I see him being fired early and his contract until 2026 will be a headache for the management of mönchengladbach, signing a long-term contract without having seen in practice how the coach is doing with the team is a mistake in my opinion, the management could have opted for a short-term contract, and if he had if doing well then the management could extend his contract for a long term

I'm curious about what kind of transfers Bayern Munich will be making this summer. I have checked Transfermarkt about rumours related to them and interestingly haven't seen anything related to a centre-forward. It looks like they are prioritizing a left-back, right-back, centre-back and a midfielder right now. The recent rumours are all about these positions.

My source: https://www.transfermarkt.com/bayern-munich/geruechte/verein/27

The latest centre-forward rumour was in late May and Vlahovic was the name rumoured with them. This makes me think like Bayern Munich don't have any plans to splurge on a centre-forward this summer. Because there is an alternative like Osimhen as well but his price tag must be around 130 million euros.

On the other hand Vlahovic might cost around 70-80 million euros I guess. Besides he is also really young and skilled. I think he could also be the right choice for them.

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Dino Toppmöller is the new coach of eintracht frankfurt and will succeed Oliver Glasner. the new coach has a contract until 2026. as head coach, the 42-yo led the luxembourg club f91 düdelingen to the championship and also to the europa league qualification in the past season.

I couldn't have agreed with you more about that. This was Dortmund's biggest title chance thanks to Bayern Munich's wasting their chances one by one. Bayern Munich surprised us all by losing so many more points compared to past seasons. But even this wasn't enough for Dortmund to become champions. Bayern Munich literally served the title on a silver platter for them I mean.

I don't think that we would see Bayern Munich this much vulnerable twice in a row. The reason why they were like that last season must be due to making bad calls about their manager. I mean why would you change your manager in a critical time period of a season? Tuchel didn't have much time to have everything under control once again.

However now he will have the needed time to start over and make Bayern Munich great again. 

as i have already written here, it is now official: Gerardo Seoane will become coach of borussia mönchengladbach for the new season. the 35-yo swiss, who previously coached bayer leverkusen in the bundesliga, succeeds Daniel Farke, who was sacked after the last matchday of the 2022/23 season. GS signs a contract until june 2026.

there are two new transfers in the bundesliga for the upcoming season...
namely Ramy Bensebaini moves on a free transfer from bor. mönchengladbach to the other borussia to dortmund and signs there a contract until june 2027.
and with Lois Openda, rb leipzig has found a successor for Christopher Nkunku, who moved to fc chelsea and was this year's top scorer. the belgian striker from french club rc lens scored 21 goals for the club in the past ligue 1 season. nothing has been announced yet about the duration of the contract as well as the transfer fee.

i don't think next season will be as exciting as the last one in terms of the battle for the championship...
but we can look forward to the two promoted teams, fc heidenheim and sv darmstadt.
especially for heidenheim, who are now the 57th club to complete a season in germany's top league it's going to be very exciting - we'll see what all the new season brings and whether we see another (third) promoted team in the form of hamburger sv

What do you think about people blaming Tuchel for nearly losing the Bundesliga title to Dortmund? Honestly I'm quite surprised to hear this kind of things because Tuchel hasn't had even a long time period with the team yet. Isn't it too harsh to criticize him in this way? I think that Tuchel doesn't have anything to do with this. He had such a short time period left in the remaining part of the season with high expectations from him.

In my opinion, Nagelsmann was replaced with Tuchel in the wrong time. That must be one of the reasons why the team decided to sack Salihamidzic and Kahn both. This is one of the features I like about Bayern Munich. The discipline level is always high which helps the problems become solved before the situation gets even worse.

We don't have any clue about next season yet but I believe Bayern Munich and Tuchel will have a good relationship. We can see the usual domination by them again especially in this league.

Bundesliga Season 22/23 Recap:



Wow, what a season finale. Bayern really did it again and became Bundesliga champions once again. It's their 11th title in a row, sick.

Dortmund had all the chances, but really managed to lose the title with a 2:2 against Mainz 05 in the last minute.

Besides Bayern and Dortmund, RB Leipzig and Union Berlin (crazy!) qualify for the Champions League. The former Bundesliga giants Hertha BSC and Schalke 04 are relegated to the second division. This should make the 2. Bundesliga also extremely exciting next year. In the relegation round, two other Bundesliga veterans will meet, namely VfB Stuttgart vs. Hamburger SV.

In any case, we can be excited boys. The Bundesliga Season 23/24 will certainly be fun again. I will then adjust the title of this thread as soon as the transfer window for the new season begins. GG.

according to information from the german 'bild' newspaper, bor. mönchengladbach officials have met with 44-yo Gerardo Seoane. there are persistent rumors at the club about another change of coach after this season. the current coach Daniel Farke (who still has a contract until 2025) has not been able to convince throughout the season with his borussia and will finish this season on the 10/11 place.

now the first relegation from the bundesliga is fixed. with the late (90+4) 1-1 equalizer by vfl bochum against hertha bsc berlin the supposed 'big city club' leaves the highest german league for the 7th time in his club history

Oliver Glasner will no longer be coach of eintracht frankfurt next season and will leave the club after the dfb pokal final against rb leipzig. almost one year after the sensational europa league win, it is now time for the coach (who has coached eintracht since the summer of 2021) to quit. the reason for the move was the unrest that has arisen at the club in recent weeks and months and especially around the personnel OG

The 29th matchday of the Bundesliga starts tonight. We can expect some exciting matches again:



Source: Google, Bundesliga, 29th matchday

I'm pretty excited to see whether FC Bayern can defend its lead in the Bundesliga against Mainz 05 on Saturday. In addition, Dortmund plays Frankfurt at home and on Sunday evening we will see a very close game (IMHO) when Bayer Leverkusen plays RB Leipzig. This one is all about the Champions League places.

As usual I placed some bets on various games. Let's see how it goes this weekend. What are your picks guys?

yesterday there were already rumors about this and today it has become reality.
vfb stuttgart has sacked its coach Bruno Labbadia. BL, who only took over the club in december, has unfortunately not managed the turnaround. his performance in the 11 bundesliga games - only 1 win
but the club also immediately presented a successor today. Sebastian Hoeneß (last on the bench at tsg hoffenheim) gets a contract in stuttgart until summer 2025

It is clearly the main focus of the media highlighting the Bundesliga because the match between FC Bayern Munchen and Borussia Dortmund is a derby match which will show who deserves to be the leader of the standings after Bayern Munich were slipped last week by one point because Bayern Munich lost to Leverkusen with a score of 2 -1. And this match is to show Bayern Munich's first match under Thomas Tuchel, who has just replaced the previous coach, Negelsmann.
I also often bet on Bayern Munich, but it seems that right now I have doubts about Bayern Munich and I will bet on Dortmund.

Yes, the FC Bayern vs. Borussia Dortmund match is definitely a highlight of the weekend and it's really very difficult to say who will win. Actually, I almost always bet on FC Bayern, but in this match I don't bet on either team. I think FC Bayern will hopefully be highly motivated to win the game, but it will certainly be no different at Borussia Dortmund as both teams are fighting for first place in the table. Even if it's not a game I like to bet on, I almost think Dortmund will win. FC Bayern is very good, but also weakens here and there this season. So I'm very, very excited to see who's going to win or if we're going to see a maybe fair draw. 

This weekend is the 26th matchday of the Bundesliga. And it's going to be massive. On Saturday we will see the top match FC Bayern vs. Borussia Dortmund. Pretty hyped!



Source: Google, Bundesliga

I am already quite excited. Pretty likely, this will be the highlight of the season. First place against second and of course Thomas Tuchel against his old club. That sounds like a great football match with a lot of tension to me, haha.

What do you guys think? Dortmund or Bayern? Probably the decisive game of the season.

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Uff, what a joke. Sucks, that small clubs like Köln will be punished, while other European clubs get a special treatment.

fifa has imposed a transfer ban on bundesliga club 1. fc köln for the next two transfer periods, which means for the entire 2023/24 season.
the reason for this is a new signing made by the club at the beginning of 2022. at that time, the talented slovenian striker Jaka Cuber had transferred from olimpija ljubljana to cologne's youth department. cologne is said to have incited the then 16-yo to breach his contract so that no transfer fee would flow to the club he had left.
the ban is now legally binding. the only chance cologne still has is to appeal to the cas. furthermore, JC has now been banned for the next 4 months and the bundesliga club has to pay a €54000 fine to ljubljana.

Yep, pretty likely and it looks like Thomas Tuchel is about to get some help from one of his former assistant coaches from Chelsea. The German Bild reports that FC Bayern is in contract talks with assistant coach Anthony Barry:


Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1640692325490753536

Then let's hope that Tuchel gets his desired assistant coach as soon as possible. Anyway, pretty crazy that now already transfer fees need to be paid for assistant coaches, lol.

However, this is probably how the European football business works in 2023. 

Good to see the positive and smiling of face of one the greatest modern day German football tactician again. The confidence that Thomas Tuchel brings to any team he's managing is another reason why he flourishes wherever he goes.
Bayern Munich's decision to sack Julian Nagelsmann who only lost three games this season and hired Tuchel must be one of the toughest decisions that the club management has taken and I know he would want to repay the bravery of the club's heirarchy decision with finishing the season on an excellent note. Winning the UEFA Champions League this season will be the ultimate and best way to pay back the club's bravery decision and with Tuchel's established records, who will say that he can't do it? No one I guess

It's official: Thomas Tuchel during his first training session with FC Bayern at Säbener Straße in Munich.



Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1640646644155703296 (more photos and videos here: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia)

Uff, pretty excited tbh (especially as a big Bayern fan, haha). So far, the reactions to Tuchel seem to be very positive. If you read a little bit in the Bayern Forum (where usually many insiders post), the new coach also seems to be well accepted by the team.

And what do you guys think of the transfer? Will FC Bayern now win the triple with its new coach?  

Sorry for the late reply. Pretty sick development at FC Bayern.

I didn't expect them to sack Julian Nagelsmann that early. However, it's the right decision (IMHO). FC Bayern has lost 10 points to Dortmund since the winter break and you no longer had the feeling that Nagelsmann was making the team stronger. As a Bayern coach, it's not enough to get players to 95%. Rather, you are a moderator and coach at the same time. Perhaps Nagelsmann's time at Bayern simply came 10 years too early. He's still very young and you could tell that he had a hard time coaching the absolute top stars.

But maybe we'll see him as Bayern coach again in a few years. It's not like other great coaches haven't had a second chance at Bayern (Heynckes or Hitzfeld for example).

And yes to Thomas Tuchel there is not much to say: Absolute world class coach who will make Bayern even better. I think with him we may even expect (bigger) chances in the Champions League.

yesterday late in the evening the bombshell burst in munich and the club sacked its coach Julian Nagelsmann. as his successor Thomas Tuchel is to sign a contract with bayern. and who knows TT, who is also a special character and has already had in the past as a coach also so his lapses...
in any case it remains very exciting at the isar

Here is an overview of the 25th match day of the Bundesliga:


Source: https://www.sport1.de/daten/fussball/bundesliga/spielplan

As usual, I'm betting on FC Bayern again this weekend and of course I hope they're successful again. This weekend they play against Bayer Leverkusen, who are currently ranked 9th in the Bundesliga. So please keep your fingers crossed that FC Bayern wins and so does my bet. Has anyone else bet on FC Bayern this weekend?  

Transfermarket just announced the most valuable football team in the world. It contains four Bundesliga players:

Jamal Musiala €100m (FC Bayern)
Matthijs de Ligt (FC Bayern)
Jude Bellingham (Borussia Dortmund)
Joško Gvardiol (RB Leipzig)



Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1635654125315670017/photo/1

A very good cut for the Bundesliga, IMHO. Of course, Mbappe and Haaland lead the ranking in terms of market value, but the Bundesliga still doesn't have to fear other European leagues.

Borussia Dortmund dropping points for the first time in 2023 leaves FC Bayern at the first place of the Bundesliga table with 52 points. Looks pretty good as a Bayern fan, haha.



Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1634636054086004737/photo/1

Of course, it is a little unexpected that Borussia Dortmund did not manage more than a 2-2 draw against Schalke 04 in the 100th Revierderby. At least I had expected a pretty clear victory for Dortmund. Let's hope that Dortmund doesn't lose any more points in the next few games and that the Bundesliga remains exciting. Currently, the gap between Bayern and Dortmund is "only" 2 points.

As a Bayern fan I am pretty happy about this. Despite his age, Choupo shows outstanding performances every weekend. I just hope that due to his age (33 years) he can keep the strong form in the next season. Otherwise, I can imagine that the topic of "new striker" can once again become interesting for FC Bayern. According to rumors, they are still interested in signing Harry Kane. But that's a completely different caliber economically, of course, and that's why I'm glad that Bayern currently doing well with the cheaper Choupo-Moting option.

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This weekend is the 24th matchday and we can look forward to the following matches:



Source: Google, Bundesliga

Yes, Leipzig would have deserved a draw, but somehow it didn't work out. Even if they played well, they couldn't prevail against BVB.  

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Thank you! I guess we were both lucky with our bets. So congratulations to you too. Yes, Bayern won, but they weren't convincing, in my opinion. I would have expected a sovereign victory against Stuttgart. But I don't want to complain, at least they won.  

With BVB in 2nd place, it remains at least exciting. That somehow makes it more interesting than knowing beforehand that FC Bayern will be the winner of the session.  

Congrats for winning your bet (and my bet as well  ) because Bayern has won! 
So yes, Bayern has won, but not really convincingly when Stuttgart almost achieved a draw because after Stuttgart scored for 1-2 very late, Bayern has been under big pressure during additional time.

Back to normal for Dortmund on second position in the table but it's still close.
Unfortunately, Union only got one point at home against Köln, where a lot of wasted chances (also for Köln) made it 0-0.

And also a sad day for Bochum, losing 0-2 against Schalke 04 at home. 
Schalke 04 has now won 2 games in a row against direct competitors Stuttgart and Bochum, which means 6 points for Schalke's relegation battle while their competitors got 0 points.

but as you go into the game analysis, rb leipzig deserved at least a draw and if not maybe an away win.
with a total of 17 shots on goal rbl had twice as many as dortmund. the possession of 62% was for an away team that played in dortmund on world class level and also in other important aspects leipzig was better than dortmund...
nevertheless, these kind of victories show how currently bvb reacts to supposedly stronger teams and is also drifting due to the current wave of success (of now 8 wins in a row)

BVB was able to hold its own against RB Leipzig last night and won 2-1. Marco Reus and Emre Can were the scorers and thus led to victory. This means that BVB is the leader for the time being, but that can change again today if FC Bayern plays successfully against Stuttgart, as they have the better goal difference. Since I bet on FC Bayern, I'll of course keep my fingers crossed for them. 


Source: Google, Bundesliga

vfl wolfsburg and bayern münchen have announced two contract extensions. at wolfsburg, dutch defender Micky van de Ven has extended his contract until the summer of 2027. the new contract has no exit clause and will therefore bring vfl wolfsburg a lot of money when they sell the player.
bayern münchen, on the other hand, can look forward to keeping cameroonian striker Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting for another year - he has extended his contract by a further year.

LOL! I hope, you will not be right about that. In any case, yesterday I placed my bet with a lot of confidence and keep my fingers crossed for FC Bayern. But yeah, I'm sticking with it. If FC Bayern lose, I won't bet on the club anymore. Well, at least not this season anymore. 

Interesting picks. I agree for most picks but Adeyemi (Dortmund) and Kolo Muani (Frankfurt) have played very well and are not included. Adeyemi is injured now but he contributed a big part to Dortmund's strong performance.
Zalazar? Well, Schalke hasn't lost a game in February but only scored 2 goals in 4 matches, which is really ridiculous.
Might be a joke after all?...  

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It will be crucial when Dortmund is facing Leipzig Friday evening. Dortmund didn't show an impressive performance against Hoffenheim, a very weak team currently.
Leipzig will be a much stronger opponent.
Maybe it's because Adeyemi is injured, but Dortmund has a very good quality in general. Especially Brandt and Bellingham have been strong recently.

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I bet you won't never bet on FC Bayern again.  
Pressure shouldn't be a problem for Bayern, it's a very experienced team.

It's reassuring to know I'm not the only one with this experience. 
Yes, really impressive what BVB is currently offering. It is currently the strongest opponent for FC Bayern in my opinion. Hopefully it stays that way. 

That would be something if FC Bayern lost to Stuttgart. Then I would never bet on FC Bayern again and as you say, FC Bayern need the points and can't miss this opportunity. Hopefully that's not too much pressure for Bayern. I'll keep my fingers crossed that they don't have a bad day and lose. 

I'm also curious about the result of this game. Since both teams are currently quite strong, it will certainly be an exciting game. I can imagine that BVB will win, but you shouldn't underestimate RB Leipzig. 

Another update for our thread today: The February Bundesliga team of the month just has been released. Dortmund dominates like crazy, lol.



Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1630914318186192897/photo/1

Daaang! FC Bayern fans not amused, haha.

100%. FC Bayern's problem this season is also not scoring goals, but inconsistent performance. In some games things are going extremely well, while in others absolutely nothing is working out. The upcoming Bundesliga games and the second leg of the Champions League are likely to be decisive in determining whether this will be a successful or a weak season for the club.

The following Bundesliga matches are scheduled for the weekend (match day 23):



Source: Google, Bundesliga

The most interesting match of the weekend already takes place on Friday, when Borussia Dortmund faces RB Leipzig. Let's see if Dortmund can confirm their strong run of form and take three points for the lead in the Bundesliga table.

LOL, same here. 
I decided to go for Borussia Dortmund instead, which payed off.
Amazing job from BVB in 2023 so far. Champions League, Cup, Bundesliga: all games won. 
Some games have been very close, but still won. 

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Very nice performance against Union and Bayern could have even scored 5 or 6 goals in total. After leading already 3:0 in the first half, Bayern had several opportunities in the 2nd half to score.

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Considering that Stuttgart lost to Schalke 04 last weekend, it would really surprise me to see Bayern losing points against Stuttgart.
Bayern just can't afford to lose points right now, even when Dortmund will face Leipzig next weekend, which will be a difficult game.
And Union is also still close.

Haha, too bad buddy. Bayern actually put in an extremely good performance against Union Berlin. The 3:0 result was fully deserved. Let's see if Bayern can show a more consistent form in the next games.

However, the fact that Bayern and Dortmund are now both at the top of the table with 46 points promises a pretty exciting final last leg of the season.



Source: Google, Bundesliga

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And at FC Bayern, there seems to be another interesting development. It is possible that Benjamin Pavard will extend his contract after all, even though it has looked more likely in recent months that he will soon be leaving the club.


Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1630494738221617153

For the second time I was wrong with my gut feeling. Last time I also bet FC Bayern and lost. This time I didn't bet on FC Bayern and FC Bayern won. I should probably stop listening to my gut feeling when betting. Anyway, FC Bayern put in a good game and won against Union Berlin 3-0. In the next game between FC Bayern and Stuttgart, I'll bet on Bayern again. I expect them to win the game with no problems. 


Source: https://www.fussballdaten.de/vereine/1-fc-union-berlin/fc-bayern-muenchen/

Yes, let's hope it stays that way. That definitely makes it more exciting. But if FC Bayern continues to be so dominant, it is easier to win bets on FC Bayern. 

Borussia Dortmund have to win because they know there is a big opportunity for them to go up to first position on the table this weekend, a draw between Union Berlin v Bayern Munich is very possible, and if it happens that way and Dortmund win their own game, they would be on top. The schedule is even in their favor because they would play on saturday and have the chance to take the top position before Bayern v Union Berlin play their game on sunday.

I like the way the top three teams are so close to each other this season, the suspense of not knowing who is going to win the bundesliga makes it so interesting and attractive, i hope Union Berlin and Dortmund hold on until the end of the season, without collapsing towards the end and allow Bayern win it easily.

I agree with you there. I honestly also don't know how I'd bet on this match. The odds on Bayern aren't high enough to make a bet pay off and a Union win is still relatively unlikely, even if FC Bayern is currently in poor form.

However, there are a few other interesting matches this weekend. Borussia Dortmund has to play Hoffenheim and the two Champions League teams Frankfurt and Leipzig face each other. Pretty exciting, if you ask me.



Source: Google, Bundesliga

For me the odds Dortmund @1.80 and RB Leipzig @1.72 look pretty interesting.

Especially Leipzig seem to be in better shape than I thought. Their performance today in the Champions League, playing 1:1 looked pretty strong. I didn't expect that, tbh.

Yes you are right. If FC Bayern don't improve its own performance, they will have a hard time against Union Berlin and could even lose their first place in the table if they suffer their third defeat. My gut says I shouldn't bet on the game and I probably won't. I can well imagine Union Berlin winning, but FC Bayern would be capable of that if they had a good day. It's not for nothing that they're still number 1 at the moment. It's really difficult to predict how the game will end. 

Yep you're right, the red card was a pretty harsh decision, so it's not surprising that Bayern coach Julian Nagelsmann went bananas, haha.

Gladbach's performance in recent years against Bayern has been quite solid, though. Except for one high loss, all results were pretty close.



Source: https://www.weltfussball.de/teams/bor-moenchengladbach/bayern-muenchen/11/

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And it looks like Union is not afraid of Bayern, or else the statements below cannot be interpreted, haha:


Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1628051728900792320

IMHO, if FC Bayern cannot significantly improve its own performance, it will also be quite difficult against Union. The Bundesliga looks more exciting than it has in a long time. Sweet!

Yes, unfortunately lost. Found the red card against FC Bayern was not justified. But whatever. Either way, I should have listened to my gut feeling and not bet on Bayern. Well, luckily it was only a small amount I bet on Bayern Munich. After all, RB Leipzig won and so did my bet. The win made up for the loss on the lost bet. 

Damn, it looks like your FC Bayern bet didn't go to well. Sorry buddy.

You're right, Bayern's performance has been extremely shaky in recent weeks. Somehow they have lost their routine and are weak, especially against smaller clubs. Of course, the 3:2 defeat against Borrusia Mönchengladbach this weekend fits in with this poor performances.

However, Bayern's weakness is a really positive development for the Bundesliga. We could finally get an exciting race for the Bundesliga title this year. And Dortmund is currently leading Hertha 2-0 in the last match of the matchday, making the Bundesliga table closer than it has been in a long time. FC Bayern and Dortmund would then both have 43 points. Pretty exciting.



Source: Google, Bundesliga

I bet on RB Leipzig and Bayern Munich today and I hope both clubs will win their games. What do you think, was that a good decision? I'm so unsure about Bayern Munich in particular because the club's performance has been very different lately. 

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Side note: If you look at the thread like this, you might think it's on the german local board. 

not only the two games you mentioned, anything is possible in today's match between augsburg and hoffenheim, and sc freiburg has not yet won the game against vfl bochum, which is strong at home.
but soon we will know and be smarter

Haha, interesting strategy. But you still won't win, my tips in the pools are too good. And everyone knows: You bet too heavily on your favourite Werder Bremen, haha. 

The next Bundesliga match day 21 is going to be quite interesting, since there are a few close matches:



Source: Google, Bundesliga

Stuttgart vs. Köln and Eintracht Frankfurt vs. Werder Bremen are almost impossible to pick on, if you ask me. At least I have no clue what to pick in our Bundesliga pools. Dortmund should easily defeat Hertha and I am excited to see whether FC Bayern can continue its strong Champions League performance against Borussia Mönchengladbach.

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Pellegrino Matarazzo is a quite interesting choice tbh. I didn't expect him to actually come back. Let's see if he can turn things around at Hoffenheim.

Pellegrino Matarazzo is the new coach at tsg hoffenheim. the coach, who was sacked at stuttgart back in october'22, is returning to hoffenheim, where he worked alongside J. Nagelsmann as co-coach from 2017 to 2019. PM has signed a contract until summer 2025.
since the new coach comes from the region (also lives there) and knows the club very well, i think it's the best decision hoffenheim could make.

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since i participate in two bundesliga pools and want to catch up with you there, i will not disclose my picks/bets

Yea, but to be honest it was pretty obvious that Breitenreiter would be sacked after this disappointing 2:5 defeat against Bochum on the weekend. However, it's the right decision, IMHO.

Hoffenheim's results have not been good for a long time and it really didn't seem as if Breitenreiter could turn things around again. I am really excited to see who will be the new coach. There are already a few names floating around as possible replacements: Ralph Hasenhüttl, Adi Hütter or Domenico Tedesco. I think all three of them can do the job, but who will? We'll probably find out in a few days.

Meanwhile, the Bundesliga continues with the following matches scheduled for the 20th matchday. What are you bets everyone?



Source: Google, Bundesliga

tsg hoffenheim has sacked its coach André Breitenreiter. after the 2-5 away defeat in bochum and the current negative trend of 9 games without a win (2 draws and 7 defeats), this step was only a matter of time. AB only took over this club as coach in the summer and has unfortunately not been able to record any positive results with this squad. as a result, tsg hoffenheim now occupies 14th place and is only 3 points ahead of 16th place.

This is a pretty sick one, if you ask me. Particularly since Benjamin Pavard has long been in talks with a transfer abroad and FC Bayern was thus faced with the difficult question of signing a new full-back. But this problem is now off the table with the signing of Joao Cancelo. In my opinion, Cancelo is one of the best fullbacks in the world and I'm sure he will make Bayern's squad even stronger. Actually as a fan I am pretty hyped, haha.

And even if it is currently "only" a loan with an option to buy for €70m, I'm sure that Bayern will still cleverly renegotiate here and you can certainly still push the price a bit.

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In your list, however, you forgot an interesting transfer: The 28 year old midfielder from FC Bayern Marcel Sabitzer leaves FC Bayern for a loan until the end of the season to Manchester United. Both clubs have also already announced the transfer. For FC Bayern, of course, this is a loss - but in my opinion a bearable one. Bayern's midfield is still strong without Sabitzer and if you really need more players at the end of the season, you end the loan and Sabitzer comes back (but I doubt that, since we also have Laimer coming to Bayern next summer).

The German newspaper Bild has more news on the transfer: Sabitzer verlässt die Bayern

German Bundesliga deadline day

Joao Cancelo   Manchester City    > > FC.Bayern München
Renato Veiga   Sporting Lissabon > > FC Augsburg
Eder Balanta   FC Brügge            >> Schalke 04
Tolga Cigerci   MKE Ankaragücü   >> Hertha BSC Berlin
Gustavo Puerta  Bogota FC         >> Bayer 04 Leverkusen
Philipp Max       PSV Eindhoven    >> Eintracht Frankfurt

finito-end-ende-aus-vorbei-finish..... update 6pm

Isco deal failed. Isco on the way home


all deals can be seen here

https://sport.sky.de/fixe-transfers        

Haha yeah. Just got the push notifciation aswell on my mobile.
Couldnt believe my eyes.. for the 2nd time! It smells like April Fools day!!!

First time was when they reported that this deal would happen and now that it has been canceled. Looks like Isco and/or his manager gambled a bit to high. Even if I would have loved to see this transfer, everything speaks for Union Berlin and their politics.
It is and will remain as an traditional club that simply remains true to its line.. that really has to be respected.  

In a Bitcoin forum this is probably the wrong answer, but I mainly use Bwin & Tipico, haha. Currently, if I had to pick a Bitcoin bookie, it would probably be Sportsbet. I have placed several bets here in the past and never had any problems.


Fixed your post: Union's transfer disaster with Isco.

The German newspaper Bild just reported that the Union-Isco deal fell through at the last minute after all. WTF.

It looks like Isco is already in Berlin and also passed the medical check earlier today. However, it looks like he is asking for a much higher salary than previously agreed with Union. Since no agreement could be reached in this way, Union has now dropped the transfer. What a story, LOL.

There should be more news in a minute, so let's see what else comes to light. 

today and tomorrow the first 4 matches in the dfb cup eighth finals will take place.
in paderborn and in mainz there might be a surprise. in the other two games any result is possible

 I never believed that Cancelo would leave the Citizens after been the best left back despite the fact that he's not a Left footed player, covering the left side of the defense when they had no left back and he created so many chances scoring goals from his position and now they sent him on loan? Is like both Pep and Cancelo are having some kind of bad relationship because I don't see why you'd loan one of your best, something fishy is going on in that locker room of Man City. And Cancelo blocking Man City on I.G, not that sure he's going to come back.

https://www.givemesport.com/88110592-joao-cancelo-has-blocked-man-city-fan-accounts-ahead-of-bayern-move

 Talking about the champion of the German league with the there very poor form, losing every single point to teams they're suppose to smash and getting all 3pts and now going to get Cancelo isn't going to change anything. IMO Cancelo will only add up to the number of players in the team but nothing to boost their style of play.

I dont know. Cannot see a big impact for Bayern right now which is to be triggered by Cancelo. But maybe the defense will be stabilized a bit by that.
So far, however, there has only been talk of a loan with an option to buy or nah?

I'm surprised that the really fat transfer hasn't been talked about yet... Isco to Union Berlin!
That would be really spectacular and a bit surreal for me :-D This morning the medical check should definitely take place according to some newspaper here in Germany.

Bayern Munich is in talks to sign Manchester City full-back Joao Cancelo who has asked to leave the club this month due to frustration with his role. Pep Guardiola is willing to grant Cancelo's wish and is not seeking a replacement. Bayern Munich is exploring a loan deal with a €70m option to buy the player permanently.

Do you believe Cancelo's arrival at Bayern Munich will help the club's ranks?

How well Union Berlin are playing after the break, they won all the games and took full advantage of Bayern draws, now they are separated by only one point.

But something incomprehensible is happening with Bayern, I can’t say that they play badly, their game is quite good, but the final stage of the attack fails. I read an interview with Oliver Kahn, he said that in this break the players were given a lot of time to rest, maybe part of the reason is that they need some time to get in shape. He was also dissatisfied with Gnabry's trip to Paris for a fashion show, reproaching him for the fact that from difficult times for the team you need to be focused on the result.

It is unusual to see such a series of draws from Bayern (and surprisingly, everyone is like a blueprint with the same score 1:1). I hope that in the cup match with Mainz the situation will change, for Bayern the odds 1.47 and in the match with Wolfsburg for Bayern the odds 1.59 I will make a multibet for Bayern to win in these matches, the odds are 2.33

after yesterday's city-derby defeat of hertha vs. union, the then self-proclaimed 'big-city-club' again falls into chaos and thus does not come to calm. because yesterday the sports director Fredi Bobic was sacked, the man who should actually build up hertha (just like back then with frankfurt) again step by step and bring a lot of stability.
hertha currently occupies the 17th place in the table and is in the midst of the relegation battle...

Good luck u degen! Multi-bet with a small bet size?
I hope you are right this time, didnt place any bets the last weeks. Stuttgart need to get as much points as possible for now so maybe u are good! 

Btw..
Which bookies are u using? Looking for a new one who is accepting cryptos. Was using stake before but had some hard times/problems with placing bets and there are weird odd jumps sometimes.

You're right, pretty tempting and that's why I just placed my bet, haha. I know a RB win is much more realistic, but @4.8 draw just sounded too good.  

And to be serious: It's pretty unlikely, but IMHO Stuttgart will do everything not to slip into the relegation spots. That's why points are urgently needed and they will get one important point against Leipzig. Pretty sure, haha.  

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In addition, there are a few more games at the weekend, let's see whats on the table:



Source: Google, Bundesliga Matchday 18

Cheers to an exciting Bundesliga weekend. Let's see if my FC Bayern can finally win again.

I don't really know. The odds are really tempting but not realistic for me at the moment. There was a draw in the first half of this season (1:1) but with the current performance I see RB Leipzig clearly ahead.
Maybe they just had a small dip in their form but the table should not be ignored. They need the win to stay in front and Stuttgart is not in a good position at the moment.

The direct comparison is also clear:




Taking all this into account, I find the odds of @ 1.42 on Leipzig much more interesting.

Too bad buddy. What are you picks for the next matchday? I guess you're betting again, right?

RB Leipzig vs. VfB Stuttgart tomorrow X @4.80 sounds pretty interesting too me. As inconsistent as Leipzig has performed so far, I think the game could well end in a draw.

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Pretty excited to see Brooks back in the Bundesliga again, tbh. IMHO, he significantly strengthens Hoffenheim's defence and I can also imagine that he will already be in the starting line-up on Saturday.

I mean, he knows the Bundesliga, is an experienced central defender and hopes to get more playing time after his time in Benfica.

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In general: Guys please make sure that you participate in the discussion. Don't quote yourself, quote others and talk to each other.

The 29-year-old Brooks signed a deal through June 2024, Hoffenheim said  in a statement. Kicker magazine reported Hoffenheim paid 300,000 euros ($327,000) for the transfer.

After the resumption of the league, Hoffenheim did not achieve any positive result, a draw against Stuttgart and a loss against union.

I think Brooks would be an additional solution for a club at the moment, right?

Down to the Final Results:

MAINZ 05 1 vs DORTMUND 2

Both Teams Score

WIN

FREIBURG 1 vs FRANKFURT 1

Above 2.5 Goals

LOSS

Unfortunately, I wasn't too lucky with my tips for the 25th of January. Got half right and half wrong, but the odds did not helped me and ended up not recovering the initial investment.

I had already read a few weeks ago that Laimer had a great interest in a Bayern transfer next summer. Pretty interesting that the transfer went so quickly in the end. But honestly it's starting to get pretty tough when it comes to the Bayern midfield. Top-class players everywhere. It will be pretty exciting to see whether some players leave the club in the summer and ofc who will be in the starting squad next season.



Source: transfermarket.com, Bayern


Haha, the everlasting argument of Bayern's opponents: Bayern buys the top players of the closest rivals in order to weaken them.

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Good bet. And a pretty interesting game tbh. Fortunately, Dortmund still managed to score in the 90+3 minute and thus come a little closer to Bayern. Very good for the league, if you ask me.


Yikes, close call. I would have expected more goals here, but in the end the 1:1 is probably a fair result for both teams. Sucks for your bet though. Haha.

I'll leave my tips for some of today's games:


MAINZ 05 vs DORTMUND

I believe the most likely scenario for this match will be for both teams to score at least one goal. I expect to see a very balanced match. Even so, the two squads usually go for the attacking strategy, where goal opportunities arise quite easily. I should note that the market Both team Score was the winner in the last two matches played by Mainz and in four of the last six official matches for Dortmund. Thus, a very open match is expected, with goal situations on both sides.

Both Teams Score

FREIBURG vs FRANKFURT

I believe the most likely scenario for this match will be the existence of several goals. In addition to the Eintracht Frankfurt team presenting better arguments, both individual and collective, for this game, Freiburg is going through a very good phase at the offensive level in home matches. Having that said, I believe risking in favor of the Above 2.5 Goals is a good option.

Above 2.5 Goals

as reported today by the german sports magazine kicker, the transfer of Konrad Laimer (rb leipzig) to bayern münchen has now been completed. the austrian international is considered to be Julian Nagelsmann's desired player and will then move on a free transfer after the end of this season ... nothing is known yet about the duration of the contract.
thus one can now also claim that bayern remains true to its strategy and continues to weaken the competition...
https://www.kicker.de/laimer-hat-den-vertrag-bei-bayern-unterschrieben-934312/artikel

Tonight we continue with the 17th matchday of the Bundesliga and the following matches are scheduled:



Source: Google, Bundesliga Spieltag 17

On paper, it should be two easy wins for RB Leipzig and FC Bayern today. But at Bayern in particular, it's hardly been about football in recent days, but rather about the tiresome goalkeeper discussion, which peaked yesterday with the sacking of goalkeeper coach Toni Tapalović. As a reason, irreconcilable differences with the rest of the coaching team were cited by the media. If you ask me, a very unfortunate end for a co-trainer who had been working with Bayern (and Manuel Neuer ofc) since 2011.

But perhaps now is exactly the right time for the team to finally get back to normal and focus fully on the games in the second half of the season (Neuer is injured anyway until the end of the season, why are we having this goalkeeper discussion at all?). I mean there are tough opponents waiting in the Champions League - you simply can't afford discussions off the pitch tbh.

And concerning the Leipzig game: Probably a 5:0 or something? Pretty, pretty sure Schalke getting smashed today.  

The weekend's games were completely bonkers, if you ask me. As a FC Bayern fan, I was not only disappointed about the 1:1 against RB Leipzig, but also that FC Köln literally blew Bremen out of the stadium with a score of 7:1, LOL. My bet that both teams would score came off. But a result like that? WTF.

Nevertheless, there was also quite a surprise for me personally. Despite the crazy results, I was able to win the matchday in our German Bundesliga betting game and win a 2 mBTC free bet on Betnomi. That makes the weak performance of FC Bayern very easy to forget, haha.

The Bundesliga table currently looks like this. FC Bayern leads the table with 35 points, followed by Eintracht Frankfurt, Union Berlin and SC Freiburg with 30 points each. IMHO, none of these three rivals will finish on a Champions League spot at the end of the season, but we'll see. Will be more likely something like RB Leipzig, Dortmund and Gladbach?



Source: Bundesliga, Google Search

Don't miss: The next matchday already starts tomorrow, as there are also matches on Tuesday and Wednesday this week.

Can you please leave us alone if you are just here for post hunting? This quoted Post of @Docnaster is the perfect example why this thread exist!
Just a random post with zero reference to any posts before. If you go to the other Bundesliga thread with the 34345345 pages you only see posts like this. <_<

@bullrun2020bbro: I think you will delete his post, so I quoted it again, so that you at least understand the reference. Maybe he will reply to it though - but from past experience I would say that won't happen!


And now: do not get angry and back to the topic: BUNDESLIGA!

Yeah the opener yesterday was not what I was expecting. Especially Kimmich and Goretzka (Note 4 & 5) disappointed. In the meantime, Choupo-Moting just keeps on scoring... that should be interesting in the future.

The Bremen game was really hard to watch as a fan... originally I would have gone to Cologne - now I'm glad I didn't.
It will be exciting for the next games - I hope that the mistakes from the first 45min will remain as an one-time incident.

Besides Bremen, Freiburg was the biggest surprise for me. Who would have predicted that they would be shot out of the stadium like that? Let's see what the two Sunday-games will bring...

I also like the idea of ​​this topic, because the other topics are almost exclusively used for spamming.

The games today were really crazy, Köln (Cologne) 7-1 or Wolfsburg 6-0 were high-scoring games. Bayern München (Munich) is currently weak and they are playing badly, actually Leipzig had a big chance to win the game. Somehow I feel like Bayern are currently missing the good old players.

Nice Thread, I like the rules and details in the thread. I haven't watched or followed the Bundesliga for a long time. There was a Leipzig and Bayern Munich match yesterday, I watched a little bit, after all, it's a good match. RB Leipzig drew at home. Leipzig is still promising. The points for the top positions in the league are very close to each other. Bayern Munich opened the goal at 37 minutes. Shortly after the second half started, Leipzig caught the draw and they evened the situation. Even though a foul was expected, I think the position was clean.

Thanks for your support guys, let's see how it goes. I am confident that together we can build a cool and fun place for everything related to the Bundesliga. 

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Let's try to set a good example with this thread. Maybe it works out and we can manage to reduce the spam at least a little bit. And if it doesn't work, we will have to look for other solutions, I guess. But let's give this one a shot first.

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Anyway, enough introductory talk, let's get on with the Bundesliga: Today's top match between RB Leipzig and FC Bayern just ended in a 1-1 draw a few minutes ago and I think that's probably a fair result overall. In the first half, I really felt FC Bayern were clearly the better team - but after the half-time, RB improved significantly, so the draw is okay in the end, tbh.

For the excitement in the Bundesliga, the draw is certainly not a bad result either, because if Freiburg scores a win tomorrow, they can get as close as two points to FC Bayern.

That's the schedule for tomorrow, plenty of exciting matches.



Source: Bundesliga, Google Results

Personally, I am very interested to see how Schalke 04 will start the second half of the season. After the disastrous first half, it's time to turn things around rather quickly if they don't want to be relegated to the second Bundesliga once again. It is quite remarkable what has happened to this great club with such a long tradition.

I am generally against self moderated threads but including this one on watch list to see how it will develop. I am also against multiple threads on same topic but that is another problem. I am personally in dilemma what to do with my Premier League and La Liga themes since they have been quite full of spam and I am doing all my discussing on pool threads that are closed to non participants. Something needs to be done but I haven't found perfect solution yet. Keeping an eye here in hopes to get some inspiration, or more probably I will just close those threads sooner than later which is a shame since they have a lot of history and some good conversations as well.

We do want to stay on topic at least on first page My bet for today is both to score and I found the odds @1.52 for it which is more generous than I expected. I will go that far to say I expect both teams to score at least 2 goals but I have a feeling Bayern will edge it with result like 2:3 in the end.

today i saw an interview with marco rose on ntv. Marco Rose has a lot of respect for the munich team, but he also thinks he has a chance of winning
tonight's top game against the team from munich. a few days ago, I bet on a bayern victory in the bundesliga betting game. today, after the interview,
i even think the leipzig team can pull off a surprise. personally, i would be very happy with a draw.
a victory for the leipzig team, however, would make the Bundesliga even more exciting.

if you don't have DAZN you can also watch the match live on Sat1. ( free tv )

I think that's a good idea and I also wish good luck with the new thread.

Since my limited soccer knowledge is already too little for one place on the forum I will concentrate on the German language version.
But who knows - Maybe I'll come by again sometime.

So that it does not immediately drift into the OT yet a tip from me to today's game. Leipzig will win (3-1)

when i saw the thread title, my first thought was... we already have a bundesliga thread, what the hell does bullrun2020bro want with a second one?
but when i visited the thread and read his 'why', i find this more than appropriate and a very great idea to create this self moderated thread.

but now to the actual topic...
today it is finally time and it goes on immediately with a top game tonight. bayern guests today (with its new goalkeeper Y. Sommer) in leipzig. a game on the same level, whereby bayern has the better individualists and goes into the game as the favorite. with an away win bayern münchen can expand the lead over rb leipzig to another 3 points (then 9 pts.)

Great idea, I support that by 100%.

It was just annoying because ucould hardly have discussions/conversations. Example: ugo to a post via quote to have a serious conversation about it and there is never a reply.
This can depend on several factors. 1. the post got lost in all the spam posts or 2. the quoted post was itself a "spam post" to get on its post count for signature bounties.

A self-moderated thread should solve the problem - though that means some work for u. Thanks @bullrun2020bro