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Quote from: Silence Scream on September 08, 2023, 02:18:49 AM

Bellingham was Borussia Dortmund's biggest weapon. The same situation was true for Haaland last year. The team got a little worse after Haaland left. After Bellingham left, Dortmund got worse. Dortmund is a team that is adept at recruiting young and talented players. They may be bad this year, but they can make up for that deficiency soon. The observer team is very good.

I absolutely agree with this comment. Borussia Dortmund are really good at adding young players with super talents. But they also have a very good youth system. Samuel Bamba is a player from their youth system and after a couple of seasons he can make the leap to a very good level. On the other hand, Karim Adeyemi is one of their good signings. Felix Nmecha, who they signed from Wolfsburg, is also a very good player. I criticize Borussia Dortmund a lot from time to time, but they are making good signings and giving importance to their youth system. I think they continue to do the right things. They came very close to overtaking Bayern Munich last season. I hope they can do it one day.

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Quote from: rendravolt on September 08, 2023, 01:29:12 AM

Victor Boniface is the most successful transfer this summer for Leverkusen. The reason is that currently he has scored 4 goals and 2 assists with Leverkusen and I think he will start to fill the Bundesliga top scorer this season. Last season, when he was still defending his previous team Saint Gilloise, he recorded a total of 22 goals in all competitions and as a striker he was also quite productive with 12 assists. I didn't expect Xabi Alonso to find this hidden gem and now Victor Boniface will be the focus for Leverkusen to achieve their targets this season, especially securing the champions league zone. But even if there is another target that is quite impossible, I think Leverkusen will become a new challenger for the Bundesliga title.

The most successful transfer by leverkusen was recruiting xabi as a new coach. I thought that if leverkusen cannot recruit him if xabi was not picking him to be recruited by bayern. Having xabi on leverkusen has been also improving the club a lot.
It's not only from the way he was treating his club but xabi was also helping the club in scouting the outstanding player to be recruited by the club. I can't wait to see the match between bayern munchen vs bayern leverkusen.
Finding an hidden gem is the most difficult thing that can be done by leverkusen. Changing the fortunes of Leverkusen in such a short period of time is no small feat, and I must say that I appreciate him a lot for it.

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Bellingham was Borussia Dortmund's biggest weapon. The same situation was true for Haaland last year. The team got a little worse after Haaland left. After Bellingham left, Dortmund got worse. Dortmund is a team that is adept at recruiting young and talented players. They may be bad this year, but they can make up for that deficiency soon. The observer team is very good.

It could be said that this season Dortmund will be even worse. It will be difficult for Dortmund to get anything this season after they lost players like Jude Bellingham and Raphael Guerreiro in the same season. This will also have an impact on the UCL league of course, especially since they are in a strong group, of course they will find it difficult to get through the group phase with the current players. I think the Bundesliga this season will be a competition between Bayern Munich and Leveskusen, I don't think Dortmund will be able to compete with the current squad.

However, Dortmund could not replace Holland with a striker as good as him. The Dortmund team unfortunately missed out on the title last season. But I hope to do something good this season.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on September 08, 2023, 02:18:49 AM

Bellingham was Borussia Dortmund's biggest weapon. The same situation was true for Haaland last year. The team got a little worse after Haaland left. After Bellingham left, Dortmund got worse. Dortmund is a team that is adept at recruiting young and talented players. They may be bad this year, but they can make up for that deficiency soon. The observer team is very good.

It could be said that this season Dortmund will be even worse. It will be difficult for Dortmund to get anything this season after they lost players like Jude Bellingham and Raphael Guerreiro in the same season. This will also have an impact on the UCL league of course, especially since they are in a strong group, of course they will find it difficult to get through the group phase with the current players. I think the Bundesliga this season will be a competition between Bayern Munich and Leveskusen, I don't think Dortmund will be able to compete with the current squad.

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Quote from: shogun47 on September 08, 2023, 02:28:55 AM

I wouldn't at all compare Bellingham with Haaland and also not confuse the recent success as a goal scorer with Bellingham being a full mode striker. It could be and it will still take some time to see whether Bellingham can keep going and scoring. But the biggest weapon Dortmund had was Haaland for a while and Bellingham was very good, but he never as decisive as he has now been for Real Madrid. It doesn't happen very often that a player decides a few games in a row in the last few minutes.

For Dortmund Bellingham scored a goal around every 8 games. For Real Madrid he scored 4 goals in 3 games. To me this is most likely more of an outlier than the expected standard.

Even Ancelotti is surprised by Bellingham's performance:

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I'm not surprised by Bellingham's quality. What surprises me is that he has scored so many goals in the first few games. It's quite surprising for everybody and for him. He's a professional and he's very serious.

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He can get to 15 goals because he did it with Dortmund.

This is a clear understatement because playing in La Liga for a dominant club, Bellingham can count on a clearly higher number of goals. In general, Real Madrid currently does not have a clear striker, but the group of players capable of scoring is quite large, this poses additional difficulties for their opponents.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 08, 2023, 03:45:12 AM

Quote from: Silence Scream on September 08, 2023, 02:18:49 AM

Bellingham was Borussia Dortmund's biggest weapon. The same situation was true for Haaland last year. The team got a little worse after Haaland left. After Bellingham left, Dortmund got worse. Dortmund is a team that is adept at recruiting young and talented players. They may be bad this year, but they can make up for that deficiency soon. The observer team is very good.

Dortmund would find a way to improve their results sooner or later. I don't see them making a great start mostly already. This kind of a start isn't something new for Dortmund. They still manage to be one of the top teams in the league no matter what. Bellingham's departure will of course affect them negatively.

But there are new players added to the squad who can also make a decent level of contribution. Honestly I don't think they can be in the title race until the last moments this time but they can at least maintain their existence in top four.

Yes indeed, of course there is nothing to worry about the bad conditions experienced by Dortmund because after all, over time Dortmund will also recover in its own way. Although indeed, when players who have great talent leave, of course there will be a bad impact that occurs also on Dortmund performance. But from all that has happened, again and again Dortmund always manages to have new talents in its squad and great again, Dortmund will always be willing to sell great players in its squad.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on September 08, 2023, 02:18:49 AM

Bellingham was Borussia Dortmund's biggest weapon. The same situation was true for Haaland last year. The team got a little worse after Haaland left. After Bellingham left, Dortmund got worse. Dortmund is a team that is adept at recruiting young and talented players. They may be bad this year, but they can make up for that deficiency soon. The observer team is very good.

I don't think that Dortmund will be bad this season even though at the start of this season Dortmund was not yet at the top of the standings after playing three matches in the Bundesliga. But Dortmund still has a lot of matches to prove that they are still strong enough in the Bundesliga, even though Dortmund might not be that good in the UCL, but if it's just in the Bundesliga, I think Dortmund still has to be taken into account by its opponents.

Borussia Dortmund has always sold important players, so it didn't really matter with Bellingham's transfer to Real Madrid and Dortmund will still be the top team in the Bundeliga, but it must be admitted that this season they won't be as strong as last season and also of course the competition at the top the Bundesliga standings with Bayern will not be as competitive as last season, Dortmund will still be Bayern's shadow.
But you also have to watch out for there are several Bundesliga teams that have started to develop much better this season and that is a bit of a threat to Dortmund at the top of the standings to fight for a ticket to the UCL.

I heard this kind of speculation last season too, when they sold Haaland. Many said that they would not be as strong as the previous season because they sold one of their most important players. And they showed that it was wrong and they remained one of the clubs that had the second biggest chance after Bayern Munich, and even last season they almost won the title if only in the last match they could get full points at that time. Yes, it happened because Bayern Munich were in decline, and at the same time they performed well so that such a situation was created.

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Quote from: ginsan on September 07, 2023, 05:30:46 PM

Even without Bellingham this season, Dortmund strength is still enough to be taken into account by their opponents in the Champions League. I will not miss the games they play especially Dortmund fill in Group F which is very interesting to watch every game they play.

Haller is the spearhead of Dortmund this season. I hope he can contribute many goals in the Champions League match. Karim Adeyemi is still very young and I'm sure he will find his golden age this season. However, Dotmund's performance in the Bundesliga seems less than perfect at the start of this season. But I believe they are candidates in the top 4 until the end of the season.

I don't know if the same thing will occur this season; if care is not taken, the team might not even end in the top four this season.They always sold their players every year without replacing them with someone better; however, each player they sold after leaving the team went on to become a star at other club. As examples, consider Jude Bellingham, who only scored 8 goals for the team last season but is now doing well for Real Madrid with 5 goals in 5 games. Haaland also became a star after leaving the club. Some even claim that because Haaland knows the league he joined, he cannot be a striker for more than one season, and we now have evidence that he can. We'll see if Sabitzer or Haller can score for the team to go to the next round despite Borussia Dortmund's performance.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on September 08, 2023, 02:18:49 AM

Bellingham was Borussia Dortmund's biggest weapon. The same situation was true for Haaland last year. The team got a little worse after Haaland left. After Bellingham left, Dortmund got worse. Dortmund is a team that is adept at recruiting young and talented players. They may be bad this year, but they can make up for that deficiency soon. The observer team is very good.

I don't think that Dortmund will be bad this season even though at the start of this season Dortmund was not yet at the top of the standings after playing three matches in the Bundesliga. But Dortmund still has a lot of matches to prove that they are still strong enough in the Bundesliga, even though Dortmund might not be that good in the UCL, but if it's just in the Bundesliga, I think Dortmund still has to be taken into account by its opponents.

Borussia Dortmund has always sold important players, so it didn't really matter with Bellingham's transfer to Real Madrid and Dortmund will still be the top team in the Bundeliga, but it must be admitted that this season they won't be as strong as last season and also of course the competition at the top the Bundesliga standings with Bayern will not be as competitive as last season, Dortmund will still be Bayern's shadow.
But you also have to watch out for there are several Bundesliga teams that have started to develop much better this season and that is a bit of a threat to Dortmund at the top of the standings to fight for a ticket to the UCL.

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Quote from: X-ray on September 08, 2023, 05:51:37 AM

True, but it's a bit different for haaland caused by he was a finisher. Bellingham was attacking midfielder which was working even harder in helping its club to win the game. Haaland has proper finishing, and he was only wiating for his teammates to supply him the ball.

Haaland is a goal scorer and he did his goal scoring task well in all clubs he has played for. Dortmund do feel missing goals from Haaland as players they bought to replace Haaland did not bring similar total goals Haaland could score for them in a single season.

Jude Bellingham did not score many goals in Dortmund and he only improved it in the past season before leaving them to join Real Madrid. Jude has more connections with other players and he is an important chain for Dortmund operation than Haaland. They are both important players of Dortmund but Jude likely caused more problems for Dortmund in tactics than Haaland.

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The difference between either of players are on how big the efforts are being made by them. Manchester city was not fully relying on haaland. Did you forget KDB, foden or alvarez?

Without Haaland, Manchester City still can score many goals because they could score many goals before Haaland came. Haaland helped them having many goals in the last season but they did not totally rely on Haaland to have goals. Foden, Alvarez, Marez, Silva and other attacking players in Manchester City could do it together very well.

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Manchester city had so many talented players while real madrid have some. Ancelotti's decision to end Madrid's transfer journey earlier than other clubs is causing regret among many people.

How Real Madrid have less talented players than Manchester City? They are both big and rich clubs and Real Madrid still have many star players in Bernabeu. One Champions League is not enough to make Manchester City is a bigger or more successful club than Real Madrid.

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Quote from: borovichok on September 08, 2023, 03:08:06 AM

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Bellingham was Borussia Dortmund's biggest weapon. The same situation was true for Haaland last year. The team got a little worse after Haaland left. After Bellingham left, Dortmund got worse. Dortmund is a team that is adept at recruiting young and talented players. They may be bad this year, but they can make up for that deficiency soon. The observer team is very good.

Jude Bellingham and Erling Haaland are the only players that are making positive impacts on their new positions in their club. Borrusia Dortmund is one of the few elite clubs that have been really consistent in producing young talented players in the past decades. The club keep generating huge figures every transfer window, that's basically what they know best in doing. There's always evidence that they produce brilliant players that have the best peaks in leagues games. Moreover some of these new players struggle and even fail to meet-up the demands for the purpose they got signed in the first place.

True, but it's a bit different for haaland caused by he was a finisher. Bellingham was attacking midfielder which was working even harder in helping its club to win the game. Haaland has proper finishing, and he was only wiating for his teammates to supply him the ball.
The difference between either of players are on how big the efforts are being made by them. Manchester city was not fully relying on haaland. Did you forget KDB, foden or alvarez?

Manchester city had so many talented players while real madrid have some. Ancelotti's decision to end Madrid's transfer journey earlier than other clubs is causing regret among many people.
Madrid could try to sign more quality players to support its club.

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Quote from: shogun47 on September 08, 2023, 02:28:55 AM

Quote from: Silence Scream on September 08, 2023, 02:18:49 AM

Bellingham was Borussia Dortmund's biggest weapon. The same situation was true for Haaland last year. The team got a little worse after Haaland left. After Bellingham left, Dortmund got worse. Dortmund is a team that is adept at recruiting young and talented players. They may be bad this year, but they can make up for that deficiency soon. The observer team is very good.

I wouldn't at all compare Bellingham with Haaland and also not confuse the recent success as a goal scorer with Bellingham being a full mode striker. It could be and it will still take some time to see whether Bellingham can keep going and scoring. But the biggest weapon Dortmund had was Haaland for a while and Bellingham was very good, but he never as decisive as he has now been for Real Madrid. It doesn't happen very often that a player decides a few games in a row in the last few minutes.

For Dortmund Bellingham scored a goal around every 8 games. For Real Madrid he scored 4 goals in 3 games. To me this is most likely more of an outlier than the expected standard.

The fact that Borussia Dortmund is very good at recruiting talented young players who later goes on to become football superstars shouldn't be the reason why the club management should be their best players every summer and getting huge financial profits as rewards. That particular ideology of the club's heirarchy has really caused them the chances of winning major trophies for the club.
The sold Jadon Sancho to Manchester United after his impressive rise to stardom at the club and still allowed Erling Haaland to join Manchester City the following summer then sold Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid this summer. The club's continuous sale of their best players have aided their rivals in winning the German Bundesliga title for over the past 10 years

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The dortmund team is now under a bit of pressure after drawing in the last two matches . The Dortmund team moved to ninth place in the points table. They will certainly want to get back on track and reclaim top spot in the table by picking up full points against freiburg. But it won't be easy. Freiburg is the stronger team in the home match . And the Freiburg team will be looking to move into the top four of the table this season as well. Dortmund have performed well in the last few head-to-head matches. However the Freiburg team is quite strong at home. And so the match is expected to be very competitive. Both teams have chances to win.

The Dortmund team don't seem to be very strong this season going with their performance in their last two matches, for a team that has good number of quality players the coach and the entire team should be under pressure because their performance has been quite disappointing especially them picking only two points in two games. They are in the 9th position which is true but they may drop more points against a strong Frieburg team who's a bigger opponent with more home advantage to win unless Dortmund will be more improved otherwise they shouldn't expect nothing but a defeat and more chances to be in the 10th or 11th position in the league table. The home team will be looking forward to win at home since the match will be played in front of their fans since they are at home but Dortmund can scale through to steal the win from Frieburg of they play a better football in the game.

Compared to last season, I think Dortmund team is weaker this season. This team played very well last season. A win in the last match of the season would have made Dortmund champions of the Bundesliga. But at the beginning of this season, their performance is very slow. One of the reasons for Dortmund's slow performance is that they sold one of the best players in their squad, Bellingham. Bellingham was Dortmund's best midfielder. , and because of Bellingham's excellent performance, Dortmund's performance last season was stable. And so because Bellingham is not in the squad this season, Dortmund's performance is unstable. I don't think Dortmund will challenge for the title this season.

Bellingham was Borussia Dortmund's biggest weapon. The same situation was true for Haaland last year. The team got a little worse after Haaland left. After Bellingham left, Dortmund got worse. Dortmund is a team that is adept at recruiting young and talented players. They may be bad this year, but they can make up for that deficiency soon. The observer team is very good.

Haaland was sold by Dortmund last season. You know he was their leading scorer, he scored a lot of goals. Even after Haaland's departure their performance was stable, thanks to Bellingham. If I talk about Bellingham, because of his responsible performances Dortmund's midfield and attack were fairly stable. Now after losing Bellingham Dortmund is even weaker again. You know they have a talented striker like Haaler, but problem is Haller is still not able to perform consistently well. Haller's consistency in performance will actually bring stability back to Dortmund's performance, I guess.

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Quote from: len01 on September 08, 2023, 04:36:48 AM

one day I imagine when Dortmund did not sell these talented players and kept Haaland and Bellingham Im sure Dortmund not go down like this and also winning the bundesliga title a bit easier to break the record but after all this has become a habit dortmund when getting young players built for getting new talent then selling him over Dortmund does not need reliable player and not want a title in bundesliga. It is very sad to see dortmund performance lately which has appeared very bad and whether it is successful this season will be able to build talented young players again but what is certain is a little sad to see bad things happen to Dortmund.

You're right though cause I could imagine what their team would had looked like with Haaland and Bellingham still involved in it, even though they didn't win the Champions League, they would've probably won the league title and be very invisible, but consider Dortmund a more business minded team, because they careless about winning trophies and are more focused on buying youngsters across Europe, develop them into future prospects and sell them for huge fee to top clubs when they're fully developed, just like I happened with Sancho, Haaland, Bellingham etc.
So far they haven't been in their best form and are still struggling to win matches, their performance is not all bad because they're still unbeaten just that they lack the ability to score against their opponents which has made them to draw their last two matches, they still have young talented players in their team and hopefully for them Karim Adeyemi would be the player they'll cash in on next summer.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on September 08, 2023, 02:18:49 AM

Bellingham was Borussia Dortmund's biggest weapon. The same situation was true for Haaland last year. The team got a little worse after Haaland left. After Bellingham left, Dortmund got worse. Dortmund is a team that is adept at recruiting young and talented players. They may be bad this year, but they can make up for that deficiency soon. The observer team is very good.

I don't think that Dortmund will be bad this season even though at the start of this season Dortmund was not yet at the top of the standings after playing three matches in the Bundesliga. But Dortmund still has a lot of matches to prove that they are still strong enough in the Bundesliga, even though Dortmund might not be that good in the UCL, but if it's just in the Bundesliga, I think Dortmund still has to be taken into account by its opponents.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on September 08, 2023, 02:18:49 AM

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Bellingham was Borussia Dortmund's biggest weapon. The same situation was true for Haaland last year. The team got a little worse after Haaland left. After Bellingham left, Dortmund got worse. Dortmund is a team that is adept at recruiting young and talented players. They may be bad this year, but they can make up for that deficiency soon. The observer team is very good.

one day I imagine when Dortmund did not sell these talented players and kept Haaland and Bellingham Im sure Dortmund not go down like this and also winning the bundesliga title a bit easier to break the record but after all this has become a habit dortmund when getting young players built for getting new talent then selling him over Dortmund does not need reliable player and not want a title in bundesliga. It is very sad to see dortmund performance lately which has appeared very bad and whether it is successful this season will be able to build talented young players again but what is certain is a little sad to see bad things happen to Dortmund.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on September 08, 2023, 02:18:49 AM

Bellingham was Borussia Dortmund's biggest weapon. The same situation was true for Haaland last year. The team got a little worse after Haaland left. After Bellingham left, Dortmund got worse. Dortmund is a team that is adept at recruiting young and talented players. They may be bad this year, but they can make up for that deficiency soon. The observer team is very good.

Dortmund would find a way to improve their results sooner or later. I don't see them making a great start mostly already. This kind of a start isn't something new for Dortmund. They still manage to be one of the top teams in the league no matter what. Bellingham's departure will of course affect them negatively.

But there are new players added to the squad who can also make a decent level of contribution. Honestly I don't think they can be in the title race until the last moments this time but they can at least maintain their existence in top four.

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on September 07, 2023, 01:46:38 PM

The Dortmund team don't seem to be very strong this season going with their performance in their last two matches, for a team that has good number of quality players the coach and the entire team should be under pressure because their performance has been quite disappointing especially them picking only two points in two games. They are in the 9th position which is true but they may drop more points against a strong Frieburg team who's a bigger opponent with more home advantage to win unless Dortmund will be more improved otherwise they shouldn't expect nothing but a defeat and more chances to be in the 10th or 11th position in the league table. The home team will be looking forward to win at home since the match will be played in front of their fans since they are at home but Dortmund can scale through to steal the win from Frieburg of they play a better football in the game.

There is some uncertainty surrounding the impending meeting between Dortmund and Freiburg, as previous head to-head results point to Dortmund possible superiority. It is impossible to ignore Freiburg recent performance and home advantage though. Dortmund is ready to resume their winning ways after two draws and reclaim the top spot in the standings, but Freiburg is also driven to move up this year. Expect a difficult match in which both teams have a chance to win, although the ultimate outcome might not be as lopsided as previous encounters, possibly going in Dortmund's favour by a score of 1-3 or 0-2 instead. Dortmund is under pressure, but Freiburg would not make it simple.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on September 08, 2023, 02:18:49 AM

Bellingham was Borussia Dortmund's biggest weapon. The same situation was true for Haaland last year. The team got a little worse after Haaland left. After Bellingham left, Dortmund got worse. Dortmund is a team that is adept at recruiting young and talented players. They may be bad this year, but they can make up for that deficiency soon. The observer team is very good.

Jude Bellingham and Erling Haaland are the only players that are making positive impacts on their new positions in their club. Borrusia Dortmund is one of the few elite clubs that have been really consistent in producing young talented players in the past decades. The club keep generating huge figures every transfer window, that's basically what they know best in doing. There's always evidence that they produce brilliant players that have the best peaks in leagues games. Moreover some of these new players struggle and even fail to meet-up the demands for the purpose they got signed in the first place.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on September 08, 2023, 02:18:49 AM

Bellingham was Borussia Dortmund's biggest weapon. The same situation was true for Haaland last year. The team got a little worse after Haaland left. After Bellingham left, Dortmund got worse. Dortmund is a team that is adept at recruiting young and talented players. They may be bad this year, but they can make up for that deficiency soon. The observer team is very good.

I wouldn't at all compare Bellingham with Haaland and also not confuse the recent success as a goal scorer with Bellingham being a full mode striker. It could be and it will still take some time to see whether Bellingham can keep going and scoring. But the biggest weapon Dortmund had was Haaland for a while and Bellingham was very good, but he never as decisive as he has now been for Real Madrid. It doesn't happen very often that a player decides a few games in a row in the last few minutes.

For Dortmund Bellingham scored a goal around every 8 games. For Real Madrid he scored 4 goals in 3 games. To me this is most likely more of an outlier than the expected standard.

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