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January 17, 2022, 07:48:28 AM
#59

Ghislaine Maxwell will no longer fight to keep names of 8 john does secret
https://nypost.com/2022/01/15/ghislaine-maxwell-will-no-longer-fight-to-keep-names-of-8-john-does-secret/

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January 03, 2022, 08:56:56 PM
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meaning in short.. the 2009 NDA is no longer applicable. epsteins dead.

Speaking of which here is an article pertaining to this conversation:

Jeffrey Epstein cut secret deal with Prince Andrew’s rape accuser

https://www.rt.com/news/545092-epstein-secret-deal-prince-andrew-accuser/

also worth noting. bottom of the 12 page settlement document release.. giuffre(V.roberts) didnt sign or date it.
so p. andrews defence has no proof the deal was finalised or settled.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60119368/32/1/giuffre-v-prince-andrew/
again NDA not applicable
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January 03, 2022, 08:10:12 PM
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The big way that the Maxwell case could relate to the P.Andrew case is if she decides she wants to get her sentence reduced by naming a few names. She can expect a very long sentence, and if she has (as she surely does) a list of names of big public figures, I'm sure she could get that sentence reduced. The two questions I suppose are: a) is she self-serving enough to be willing to sell out all of her friends? I think we know the answer to that one. But the second question, b) if she starts naming names, then she is admitting her own guilt... and is she willing to do that? Or will arrogance and pride prevent it?

a. she can only name names to reduce sentance BEFORE those names are convicted with their own crimes by other victims.
    EG if prince andrew is found guilty of the giuffre civil case. its then too late for maxwell to then name p andrew for a sentance reduction. so she has a short window to decide on loyalty or liberty

b. she is already found guilty. there is no legal harm that can increase her sentance by naming names. there is only personal loyalty harm of losing friends by mentioning them.

..
with all that said. P.andrews case this week is trying to dismiss the giuffre case due to a 2009 'settlement' disclosure that giuffre cant put any legal actions against anyone linked to anything related to epstein maxwell...
this is a weak defense for p.andrew as the clause does not mean that if p.adrew done any random crime of burglary or murder or tresspass or [insert unlimited crimes] that guiffre cannot sue him.. so guiffre just has to say that p.andrew did not pimp/traffic her.... so nothing to do with the clause.. instead p.andrew raped her. (which she already is accusing him of)

worse case she has to pay back $500k to break the contract. (something she can easily raise via many social donation sites, if that is needed).. oh and guess what. epstein is dead. so he cannot enforce his contract anymore to try to stop her talking or claw back the $500k for talking

its like medical privacy. (doctor patient confidentiality) it stops applying after death because the patient is no longer alive to fight a breach of contract.

its like the national census released 100 years after date of report. as its believed all those within old census are now dead and so no one can fight any invasion of privacy.

meaning in short.. the 2009 NDA is no longer applicable. epsteins dead.

Speaking of which here is an article pertaining to this conversation:

Jeffrey Epstein cut secret deal with Prince Andrew’s rape accuser

https://www.rt.com/news/545092-epstein-secret-deal-prince-andrew-accuser/
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January 03, 2022, 07:00:34 PM
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The big way that the Maxwell case could relate to the P.Andrew case is if she decides she wants to get her sentence reduced by naming a few names. She can expect a very long sentence, and if she has (as she surely does) a list of names of big public figures, I'm sure she could get that sentence reduced. The two questions I suppose are: a) is she self-serving enough to be willing to sell out all of her friends? I think we know the answer to that one. But the second question, b) if she starts naming names, then she is admitting her own guilt... and is she willing to do that? Or will arrogance and pride prevent it?

a. she can only name names to reduce sentance BEFORE those names are convicted with their own crimes by other victims.
    EG if prince andrew is found guilty of the giuffre civil case. its then too late for maxwell to then name p andrew for a sentance reduction. so she has a short window to decide on loyalty or liberty

b. she is already found guilty. there is no legal harm that can increase her sentance by naming names. there is only personal loyalty harm of losing friends by mentioning them.

..
with all that said. P.andrews case this week is trying to dismiss the giuffre case due to a 2009 'settlement' disclosure that giuffre cant put any legal actions against anyone linked to anything related to epstein maxwell...
this is a weak defense for p.andrew as the clause does not mean that if p.adrew done any random crime of burglary or murder or tresspass or [insert unlimited crimes] that guiffre cannot sue him.. so guiffre just has to say that p.andrew did not pimp/traffic her.... so nothing to do with the clause.. instead p.andrew raped her. (which she already is accusing him of)

worse case she has to pay back $500k to break the contract. (something she can easily raise via many social donation sites, if that is needed).. oh and guess what. epstein is dead. so he cannot enforce his contract anymore to try to stop her talking or claw back the $500k for talking

its like medical privacy. (doctor patient confidentiality) it stops applying after death because the patient is no longer alive to fight a breach of contract.

its like the national census released 100 years after date of report. as its believed all those within old census are now dead and so no one can fight any invasion of privacy.

meaning in short.. the 2009 NDA is no longer applicable. epsteins dead.
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January 02, 2022, 01:56:20 PM
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giuffre and the prosecution done a smart thing there.. by keeping her out of it because they knew the defense would want the case sealed.

Maybe, yeah. The big way that the Maxwell case could relate to the P.Andrew case is if she decides she wants to get her sentence reduced by naming a few names. She can expect a very long sentence, and if she has (as she surely does) a list of names of big public figures, I'm sure she could get that sentence reduced. The two questions I suppose are: a) is she self-serving enough to be willing to sell out all of her friends? I think we know the answer to that one. But the second question, b) if she starts naming names, then she is admitting her own guilt... and is she willing to do that? Or will arrogance and pride prevent it?
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January 02, 2022, 10:51:32 AM
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Next up is Prince Andrew, I think the next hearing in the civil case is on Tuesday, with the trial towards the end of 2022, unless Andrew's lawyers can get the thing dismissed.
by sealing the case, the victims are not publicly known. and so if victims of maxwell were also victims of P.andrew. the victims cant use public knowledge of maxwell case as their evidence, because the 'public knowledge' did not disclose that maxwell was charged due to actions involving (real name victim). and the seal means they cant use court transcripts to link the two
.. basically they cant say 'maxwell was charged of crimes against me' as there is nothing in public domain linking victim to maxwell

Giuffre wasn't called as a witness by the prosecution in the Maxwell case, so it looks like the intention is to treat the Prince Andrew thing completely separately.
She's due in court this week, so he'll be sweating over that. Andrew's legal team have tried to get the case dismissed on the basis that she doesn't live in the US any more, but the judge rejected the attempt.

giuffre and the prosecution done a smart thing there.. by keeping her out of it because they knew the defense would want the case sealed.

but part of the maxwell case is a known(well now unknown and sealed and not to be referenced in court) history of trafficking girls.
meaning those trying to prosecute P.andrew cant use maxwells case to show that p.andrew was surrounded by many underage girls when partying with maxwell on multiple occasions. meaning its just a case of just being 1 victim one perpetrator exchanging words and who's words should be believed.

if giuffre was in the maxwell case. then she would have been sealed/ordered to not mention things mentioned in maxwell case.
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January 02, 2022, 05:55:47 AM
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Next up is Prince Andrew, I think the next hearing in the civil case is on Tuesday, with the trial towards the end of 2022, unless Andrew's lawyers can get the thing dismissed.
by sealing the case, the victims are not publicly known. and so if victims of maxwell were also victims of P.andrew. the victims cant use public knowledge of maxwell case as their evidence, because the 'public knowledge' did not disclose that maxwell was charged due to actions involving (real name victim). and the seal means they cant use court transcripts to link the two
.. basically they cant say 'maxwell was charged of crimes against me' as there is nothing in public domain linking victim to maxwell

Giuffre wasn't called as a witness by the prosecution in the Maxwell case, so it looks like the intention is to treat the Prince Andrew thing completely separately.
She's due in court this week, so he'll be sweating over that. Andrew's legal team have tried to get the case dismissed on the basis that she doesn't live in the US any more, but the judge rejected the attempt.
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January 01, 2022, 07:27:11 PM
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if you want to pick a time that showed picking a political leader was bad due to them being terrible.. obviously trump is top of the list.

im surprised, that any of the feminist woke women voted for him. with all of his sexual harassment stuff, with his publicly know links to maxwell and epstein, before 2016

but then again.. american politics has always had problems



court documents had been sealed,
its cos of this
Next up is Prince Andrew, I think the next hearing in the civil case is on Tuesday, with the trial towards the end of 2022, unless Andrew's lawyers can get the thing dismissed.
by sealing the case, the victims are not publicly known. and so if victims of maxwell were also victims of P.andrew. the victims cant use public knowledge of maxwell case as their evidence, because the 'public knowledge' did not disclose that maxwell was charged due to actions involving (real name victim). and the seal means they cant use court transcripts to link the two
.. basically they cant say 'maxwell was charged of crimes against me' as there is nothing in public domain linking victim to maxwell

A little weird but not too surprising that he escaped relatively unscathed from the Maxwell trial. But the guilty verdict there will not do him any favours... he can try to wriggle free, but his reputation has already gone anyway. The question now is whether he can wriggle out of facing a trial.

there are many loopholes.
a. jurisdiction. decline american courts as accusations of crimes were about UK locations/events.
b. US case law/verdict not applicable to UK
c. UK CROWN prosecution service (like US DA) can decide its not worthy of a trial (emphasis CROWN)
     (when mother owns the court system, dont expect justice).

if P.andrews case is put aside, appeals should take it to international courts out of mothers hands

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]
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January 01, 2022, 08:14:18 AM
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How is someone with no carisma, average intellect and lacking international experience become vice president?

Easy answer, it's because Saint George Floyd took a bit too many drugs than he could handle. Recall in May of 2020, before the DNC convention, Biden was going to pick your typical white woman democratic politician, maybe Amy Klobuchar, had it not been for BLM terrorists setting cities ablaze. It was only after Floyd's death that Biden proclaimed he *must* pick a woman of color. And so Harris is was. To not pick a woman of color during such racial tensions was to desecrate amongst the sacred space of woke social justice politics, and of course Biden must oblige to the radicals.

I agree, she's terrible.
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January 01, 2022, 06:33:03 AM
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I don't see a link between Kamala Harris and Epstein. Think about it logically -- Epstein only associates with the rich and powerful. Kamala Harris was just a California AG, and a senator in the past. Epstein wouldn't care about some AG or senator, they are not the elite. The elite are the billionaires, the former Presidents, the active federal government employees. Anyone on the state level is useless to him. And plus he lived in Florida not California so he had no use for Harris.

There used to be a time leaders were aspired, these days is any of them even remotly liked?
How is someone with no carisma, average intellect and lacking international experience become vice president?
Any idiot can be the "leader" in a democracy.
In modern days when a prime minister runns a country into the ground he just quits, flees the country and gets another high paying job and the resident people can sort out the mess he left behind.

Blackmail is the world govenment
https://rumble.com/vmyx1n-monopoly-who-owns-the-world-documentary-by-tim-gielen.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=2
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January 01, 2022, 05:35:04 AM
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I don't see a link between Kamala Harris and Epstein. Think about it logically -- Epstein only associates with the rich and powerful. Kamala Harris was just a California AG, and a senator in the past. Epstein wouldn't care about some AG or senator, they are not the elite. The elite are the billionaires, the former Presidents, the active federal government employees. Anyone on the state level is useless to him. And plus he lived in Florida not California so he had no use for Harris.
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January 01, 2022, 05:15:44 AM
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I spent a little time with it and could not find any doctoring.
Somebody would had to spend a lot of time, all details, free strands of hair and such to fabricate this thing.
Easy one to spot is the light source is the same as can be seen on shadows, to create one or the other shadow is a lot of work.


Fact checking came about once truth started to flourish.
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December 31, 2021, 07:49:34 AM
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Next up is Prince Andrew, I think the next hearing in the civil case is on Tuesday, with the trial towards the end of 2022, unless Andrew's lawyers can get the thing dismissed.
A little weird but not too surprising that he escaped relatively unscathed from the Maxwell trial. But the guilty verdict there will not do him any favours... he can try to wriggle free, but his reputation has already gone anyway. The question now is whether he can wriggle out of facing a trial.
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December 30, 2021, 12:32:18 PM
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Ghislaine,Ghislaine,Ghislaine (Jolene,Jolene,Jolene)
https://youtu.be/2lUO1rfeRE4

So court documents had been sealed, what is the meaning of cover-up?  Already before case started judge said, data is to sensitive, i say bullshit
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December 30, 2021, 06:15:58 AM
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Not surprising is how little details of the Epstein network we got.

she will use up all of her appeal chances first to try claiming innocence. as per usual protocol of what lawyers do..

if she just mentioned names now. she loses all options of appeal.

.. then as last resort, she will claim she is guilty, try to lessen her sentence(though kinda late to switch), then claim remorse for actions, again try reducing her sentence because 'rehabilitation system works' where she is reformed(usual deceit)..  then seek further reduction in sentence if she can provide proof of other criminals.

but she is like 60+ so i hope she spends atleast 20-30 years locked up, and literally dies of old age behind bars even with sentence reductions.

i just hope that it wont be a 2005 epstein deal where he just had a silly curfew thing with special deals to give other criminals immunity

I hope she gets locked up too Franky. The only way that she could pull a 2005 Epstein deal is if the media goes into a full blackout mode of the trial acting as though it does not exist and even puts the trial venue into total secrecy (last part might not happen, blackout certainly will knowing how our media "covers" things these days). I think whats gonna happen is that she will most likely "kill" herself like Epstein did or since they have a well-known bodyguard covering her then she'll suddenly die of "COVID". I'm sort of surprised that Epstein didn't die of "COVID" as that only helps another narrative that we are all being fed.


Mega Group, Maxwells and Mossad: The Spy Story at the Heart of the Jeffrey Epstein Scandal

https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/
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December 30, 2021, 03:42:31 AM
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Not surprising is how little details of the Epstein network we got.

she will use up all of her appeal chances first to try claiming innocence. as per usual protocol of what lawyers do..

if she just mentioned names now. she loses all options of appeal.

.. then as last resort, she will claim she is guilty, try to lessen her sentence(though kinda late to switch), then claim remorse for actions, again try reducing her sentence because 'rehabilitation system works' where she is reformed(usual deceit)..  then seek further reduction in sentence if she can provide proof of other criminals.

but she is like 60+ so i hope she spends atleast 20-30 years locked up, and literally dies of old age behind bars even with sentence reductions.

i just hope that it wont be a 2005 epstein deal where he just had a silly curfew thing with special deals to give other criminals immunity

Will the US government accept any of those pleas? I'm not sure. Maybe they could use her to testify against others involved in the Epstein ring, but that also forces me to question whether these people want to bother holding anyone accountable. It would seem they're not very interested in accountability. After all, Epstein being offered a generous plea deal sent the message that if you're rich and powerful, you generally can avoid any consequences as long as you pay the right people. It was only after Maxwell was 60, long after these crimes were uncovered, that any charges were brought forth. All the mean while, Epstein and Maxwell travel the world, meet with the world's most powerful people, while avoiding any consequences for their crimes.

2010, Maxwell pictured fat Chelsea Clinton's wedding - https://factcheck.thedispatch.com/p/was-ghislaine-maxwell-at-chelsea

2008 IIRC was the point Epstein had been convicted, investigation starting back in 2005. You think someone would have said to the Clintons that this woman *may* be a sexual predator.




Well will they go after the "John's" now?
https://youtu.be/tNx06Bd655s



Fake picture - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/09/08/fact-check-altered-image-shows-jeffrey-epstein-next-kamala-harris/5672684001/
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December 30, 2021, 03:37:02 AM
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Well will they go after the "John's" now?
https://youtu.be/tNx06Bd655s

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December 29, 2021, 11:28:07 PM
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Not surprising is how little details of the Epstein network we got.

she will use up all of her appeal chances first to try claiming innocence. as per usual protocol of what lawyers do..

if she just mentioned names now. she loses all options of appeal.

.. then as last resort, she will claim she is guilty, try to lessen her sentence(though kinda late to switch), then claim remorse for actions, again try reducing her sentence because 'rehabilitation system works' where she is reformed(usual deceit)..  then seek further reduction in sentence if she can provide proof of other criminals.

but she is like 60+ so i hope she spends atleast 20-30 years locked up, and literally dies of old age behind bars even with sentence reductions.

i just hope that it wont be a 2005 epstein deal where he just had a silly curfew thing with special deals to give other criminals immunity
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December 29, 2021, 10:41:50 PM
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Guilty on 5 of 6 counts, okay I guess. After so many days I was almost certain on a hung jury. Not surprising is how little details of the Epstein network we got. Seems like they wanted to keep those matters private. Perhaps it was too unusual of a request for the public to be aware of crimes by the powerful, we're not entitled to these matters apparently.
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Ghislaine Maxwell convicted in Epstein sex abuse case

https://news.yahoo.com/ghislaine-maxwell-jury-must-years-161625990.html
I am not sure what grounds Maxwell might appeal on. However, even with an appeal, it would be in her best interest to start naming names, even if in a way such that she does not implicate herself, as long as she can back up what she says.

I am not sure if she actually waits for her appeals to be exhausted before she starts naming names, however, once she is sentenced, the fact that she didn’t corporate is pretty much set in stone in terms of her sentence.

I might see some kind of sweetheart deal in which she names Trump right before the 2024 election in exchange for a pardon, however I don’t think she would be able to corroborate Trumps implication, as I do not doubt she has already been offered a similar deal by prosecutors.   
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December 29, 2021, 05:25:48 PM
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Ghislaine Maxwell convicted in Epstein sex abuse case

https://news.yahoo.com/ghislaine-maxwell-jury-must-years-161625990.html

GUILTY!  Cheesy
cmg777 beat me by 9 minutes

BBC is currently interviewing Alan Dershowitz who is explaining that maxwell will appeal, that this case weakens the other cases against p.andrew and that maxwell wont get a 30+ year sentance, but a sub-20 year sentance.

funny part is that Dershowitz was actually one of the [suspected/accused] assaulters of the victims of epstein/maxwell. so the BBC interviewing Dershowitz about the validity of the guilty verdict seems to be lop sided to create a bias that the verdict is unjust.

BBC should have interviewed an impartial law expert. not one of the assaulters.

expect more drama in about 9 months involving the other cases and appeals, seems maxwell and her chums wont just lay down and accept the verdict
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Ghislaine Maxwell convicted in Epstein sex abuse case

https://news.yahoo.com/ghislaine-maxwell-jury-must-years-161625990.html
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December 24, 2021, 02:21:30 AM
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funny part is maxwell is pleading ignorance to the prince andrew thing.
but a photo has HER with prince andrew and the 17yo where she took the girl from america to the UK.

it wasnt a pic of epstein, P.andrew and the girl. so its not like it was epstein introducing P.andrew to the girl

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December 22, 2021, 08:27:16 PM
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Jury has been deliberating for over 20 hours at this point, asked to review evidence of the accusers. US justice system for federal criminal charges (and state, for that matter) involve a unanimous verdict, both for guilt or acquittal. Generally the longer deliberations take, the better it is for the defense because it usually means there are a few jurors disagree with the majority resulting in a deadlocked.

This is a clear cut case, leaving no possible room to be on the fence. Not sure how you could possibly be unsure in this case about what your position is, but juries are unpredictable.

Keep your eye out for a hung jury, resulting in a mistrial.
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December 18, 2021, 02:20:47 PM
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Looks like she be free to go soonish?
https://web.archive.org/web/20211218191801/https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article256675947.html

Dont want to know why the pillow is wet


Old news but still new
Count One: Conspiracy to entice minors to engage in illegal sex acts.
Count Two: Enticement of a minor to travel to engage in lllegal sex acts.
Count Three: Conspiracy to transport minors with intent to engage in Criminal sexual activity.
Count Four: Transportation of a minor with intent to engage in criminal sexual activity.
Count Five: Sex trafficking conspiracy
Count Six: Sex trafficking of a minor.
Trial Leaves Out KEY Alleged Epstein Victims.
https://youtu.be/LeTpTS2YJoE
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December 18, 2021, 01:52:51 PM
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It's almost as if there is no trial

It is shocking that despite all the interest from the public on this case, the media is still brushing it under the rug.  It's almost as if there's extremely wealthy and powerful people that own the media companies and don't want them covering this.  With all the garbage the media is throwing at us, what possible sense in the world does it make that we aren't seeing this case plastered on every channel like the OJ trial?  None.  I hope there are a hundred documentaries that come out slamming every person involved who tried to cover this up.  Nowadays you can get cancelled for saying something as commonsense as all lives matter, but get a few hundred 13 year olds to sleep with rich people and you get those responsible for cancel culture suddenly turning a blind eye.  Crazy.
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December 18, 2021, 12:52:40 PM
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Counsel for Maxwell commenced their defense the other day, in which they plan to call 35 witnesses to testify.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/ghislaine-maxwells-defense-begins-judge-denies-request-witness/story?id=81797739

What number of these character could the jury trust -- in my opinion, none.

Surely you can find a defensive witnesses that are willing to lie to support a friend, or mislead a jury to support a friend.

The testimony isn't public, but from what some of the court reporters have said about the testimony, numerous witnesses outline in detail sexual assaults committed either by Maxwell herself or with Epstein in the presence of Maxwell. What could will these witnesses do, say Maxwell is jolly fellow who is not capable of committing any crime?

You mentioned one important thing here, but the other one is that Maxwell already announced through her lawyers to stay silent. Some people seem to be shocked about that, but wasn't it to be expected that she is not going to say a single word? That is probably the best strategy she can choose in her own defense. I guess most importantly it comes down to some of the documents/documentations that have been found concerning Epsteins practices and Maxwell's role in administrating everything.
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Counsel for Maxwell commenced their defense the other day, in which they plan to call 35 witnesses to testify.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/ghislaine-maxwells-defense-begins-judge-denies-request-witness/story?id=81797739

What number of these character could the jury trust -- in my opinion, none.

Surely you can find a defensive witnesses that are willing to lie to support a friend, or mislead a jury to support a friend.

The testimony isn't public, but from what some of the court reporters have said about the testimony, numerous witnesses outline in detail sexual assaults committed either by Maxwell herself or with Epstein in the presence of Maxwell. What could will these witnesses do, say Maxwell is jolly fellow who is not capable of committing any crime?
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It's almost as if there is no trial




Well they had to have the Ritttenhouse and Smollett show trials first then nothing to see here after lets brush it under the rug.
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December 16, 2021, 05:12:17 AM
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It's almost as if there is no trial


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Twitter banned the Maxwell trial tracker, had 500k followers - https://twitter.com/trackertrial

I don't believe in a grand conspiracy theory, but just in general incompetency by Twitter such that some minor rule must have been violated causing them to take action. There are other places to get info on the trial and Twitter's attempt to silence coverage will not be successful (because I don't think they tried). It's good to know their platform is dedicated to protecting the best among us. Wouldn't want any misinformation on Maxwell going around at all or anything.

It is too much to be a coincidence that as soon as Jack Dorsey steps down you see blatant censorship of seemingly legitimate accounts doing a public service of spreading information about an event people want to stay informed.  This might be the most obvious example ever of someone stepping down to take a fat paycheck and walk away while the powers that be immediately start to use their creation for evil.  People should take note.  Twitter might be the latest example, but this is happening everywhere, in all industries, across continents.  People need to learn to think for themselves or our civilization is screwed...
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I'm willing to wager that Ghislaine will meet an untimely demise to "COVID" but it will be poisoning by the bodyguard or someone else. Same song, same dance, Status Quo, the small people don't have a chance, until they pick up a pike and fight back (wow I should be a music writer lol). Franky its good to see you on a topic that you feel passionate about that we agree with here Cheesy
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December 09, 2021, 02:42:38 PM
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Photo of Queen's Balmoral log cabin with the two resting at the porch has been shown at her trial, who else managed to use it?

I bet Prince Andrew has been sat on that bench at some point.

Actually, saying that he sat on the bench in the context of a trial suggests that he was involved in some sort of sexual abuse of the judge. I don't mean to imply that at all... Prince Andrew of course is eternally innocent and would never be engaged in any such impropriety.  In fact, it's difficult to imagine that he could be involved with this trial in any way. I don't even know why I brought it up, the name just came into my head for some inexplicable reason. Roll Eyes

Ah the toxic duke back in the day
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/10/epstein-ducked-sex-abuse-questions-deposition/
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December 09, 2021, 02:14:49 PM
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Photo of Queen's Balmoral log cabin with the two resting at the porch has been shown at her trial, who else managed to use it?

I bet Prince Andrew has been sat on that bench at some point.

Actually, saying that he sat on the bench in the context of a trial suggests that he was involved in some sort of sexual abuse of the judge. I don't mean to imply that at all... Prince Andrew of course is eternally innocent and would never be engaged in any such impropriety.  In fact, it's difficult to imagine that he could be involved with this trial in any way. I don't even know why I brought it up, the name just came into my head for some inexplicable reason. Roll Eyes
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December 09, 2021, 12:27:34 PM
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60 Minutes Australia
https://youtu.be/8Q2Aks6esJ8


Photo of Queen's Balmoral log cabin with the two resting at the porch has been shown at her trial, who else managed to use it?
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December 08, 2021, 02:30:35 PM
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Twitter banned the Maxwell trial tracker, had 500k followers - https://twitter.com/trackertrial

I don't believe in a grand conspiracy theory, but just in general incompetency by Twitter such that some minor rule must have been violated causing them to take action. There are other places to get info on the trial and Twitter's attempt to silence coverage will not be successful (because I don't think they tried). It's good to know their platform is dedicated to protecting the best among us. Wouldn't want any misinformation on Maxwell going around at all or anything.
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December 08, 2021, 02:03:45 PM
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As you command,     Peter Doris?


The Free Press Report  https://patriotone.substack.com/

Bonus: https://ibb.co/L5s05Yf
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December 07, 2021, 07:03:47 PM
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nothing really revealing in that document that other hotels dont do..
.. however, they really have a thing for ordering alot of cheese. like 3x the amount compared to meat
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December 04, 2021, 06:56:46 PM
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maxwells latest defence is that one victim is NOW an actress and is crying crocodile tears which she has been trained to do due to being an actress..

also she has psychologists trying to spread doubt in witness/victims memory

the thing is. many of the victims(if you followed the epstein case) made police statements at the time of their assaults when they were teenagers and so before any even went to acting school or had time to forget what occured.

seems maxwell is not looking for proof of innocence, but instead just enough doubt in witness/victim testimony to get a 'reasonable doubt' verdict of not guilty. but i doubt it will work.

she is guilty. guilty. guilty. maybe better to plead guilty and name and shame for a reduced sentence deal.

the importance of the pilots evidence is not so much about any innappropriate acts happening on the plane in view of the pilot, but simply that maxwell and epstein brought the girls across state lines, thus ticking the first of 2 boxes about trafficking minors
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December 03, 2021, 05:49:13 PM
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Hmm, good list. But Trump is not here? Must not have gotten logged.

Anyway, the defense angle here has been that Maxwell must've been ignorant of all the sex trafficking that Epstein was doing, yet here she has 400 flight logs, the most of anyone. The pilot described Maxwell has being the next in the hagiarchy of Epstein's social apparatus.

I guess she really must have liked the plane, surely has nothing to do with trafficking children the defense will argue  Roll Eyes
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December 03, 2021, 03:39:45 PM
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People with 10 flights or more flight logs
Jeff Epstein 832
Ghislaine Maxwell 400
Sarah Kellen 311
Emmy Tayler 191
Nadia Marcinkova 125
Andrea Mitrovich 66
Teala Davies 50
Shelley Lewis 40
Cindy Lopez 37
Clare Hazell-Iveagh 32
Jean-Luc Brunel 29
Michael Liffman 28
Virginia Roberts 28
Banu Koluk-Koylu 26
Doug Band 26
Bill Clinton 25
David Mullen 23
Pete Rathgeb 22
Magale Blachou 20
Tiffany Gramza 20
Celina Dubin 18
Gwendolyn Beck 17
Jordan Dubin 17
Eva Dubin-Andersson 16
Sophie Biddle 15
Chauntae Davies 14
Adam PerryLang 13
Alberto Pinto 13
Valdson Cotrin 13
Alexia Wallert 12
Adrianna Muscinska 11
Chris Tucker 11
David Slang 11
Eric Nonacs 11
Glenn Dubin 11
Jim Kennez 11
Kevin Spacey 11
RGR ? 11
Rodey Swater 11
Susan Hamblin 11
Tatiana Kovylina 11
Casey Wasserman 10
Joel Pashcow 10
Laura Wasserman 10
Mandy Ellison 10
Patsy Rodgers 10
Nicole Junkermann 3

Interdasting analysis of flight logs https://web.archive.org/.../2019-07-06-Epstein-Flight...
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November 30, 2021, 06:48:09 PM
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Hopefully, this link from National File and hell the whole site is back up again but...

https://nationalfile.com/fashion-designer-who-died-day-before-ghislaine-maxwell-trial-was-named-in-sex-trafficking-lawsuit-against-epsteins-brother/

"Virgil Abloh, the prolific black designer who worked with Louis Vuitton and was CEO of Off-White, died after he reportedly lost a “two-year battle with cardiac angiosarcoma, a rare cancer” at 41 years old on Sunday, just one day before the criminal trial of alleged sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell."

Also Geraldo is saying that Maxwell is the victim in this? I'd say he is one of those John Does or Corporate Does.

WATCH: Geraldo says accused trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell is a victim of the US government

https://thepostmillennial.com/watch-geraldo-says-accused-trafficker-ghislaine-maxwell-is-a-victim-of-the-us-government?utm_campaign=64487
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November 30, 2021, 03:51:12 PM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10256453/Epsteins-relationship-Maxwell-personal-business-says-Lolita-Express-pilot.html

Epstein pilot testifies in Maxwell trial, states former Presidents Bill Clinton and Donald Trump flew on private jet owned by Epstein. Bill Clinton flew multiple times in fact. Asked if he witnessed any sexual activity by the prosecution, pilot answered no, stating the cockpit door was always closed.

This pilot made a lot of money from Epstein, had his children's tuition paid off, and even hosted his daughter's wedding at a property owned by Epstein. Does anyone really believe he is ignorant of any and all illegal activity of Epstein for years after being his personal pilot, and making millions off it?
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November 30, 2021, 05:13:36 AM
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It's probably more that rich people are used to getting away with whatever they like, tax evasion is most common, but any other illegal activity, too. (Isn't that right, Prince Andrew?)
So they view the prospect of a trial by jury to be unfair... because impartial is unfair, as it removes their inbuilt immunity.

I think it's not so much that the jury would be biased against the rich, the objection is more that they aren't biased towards the rich.


I would say the jury would be more or less biased against them because of the possible crimes they committed but like a judge, a jury is supposed to be impartial until they hear the facts that the prosecution and defense attorneys have brought to the table. It is a shame but judges can be bought and so can juries if they are somehow doxxed to their prospective rich buyers. However, it might be cheaper for the rich to hire someone to commit violence/threats against the judge and jury which is what seems to have happened to Epstein and now Maxwell's father.
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November 30, 2021, 04:41:34 AM
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https://youtu.be/U5UU9KWwBWU   7/11/1991 two days after corrupt father 'The bouncing Czech' suicided (November 5) on the yacht "The Lady Ghislaine"


Blackmail business is a lucrative endeavour


It's only the first day..
 

Oh, ho
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November 29, 2021, 02:16:58 PM
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The prosecution has to have a mountain of evidence against this person, should be a quick and easy case. In fact, her defense team was arguing that jurors could not be neutral because they would have disdain and bias against Maxwell because she's rich....funny, because you would think someone would have that sort of bias because she is involved in trafficking of children. But sure, I guess it's because she's rich.

It's probably more that rich people are used to getting away with whatever they like, tax evasion is most common, but any other illegal activity, too. (Isn't that right, Prince Andrew?)
So they view the prospect of a trial by jury to be unfair... because impartial is unfair, as it removes their inbuilt immunity.

I think it's not so much that the jury would be biased against the rich, the objection is more that they aren't biased towards the rich.
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November 29, 2021, 08:07:18 AM
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The lead prosecutor in the Ghislaine Maxwell case is Maurene Comey, daughter of James Comey
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1465059290943737856



That be interesting fireworks if she sings like a bird.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10249945/Ghislaine-Maxwell-stand-save-life-amid-child-sex-trafficking-charges.html

Per Wikifakeia her birthday is Dec 25, 1961. well  12+25+1961 = 1998 1998/3 = 666
Per court documents (under oath) her birthday is Feb 12, 1961.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4355835/1137/13/giuffre-v-maxwell/ (page 6)
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November 25, 2021, 03:33:39 AM
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Remote fracture of right first rib (Dont know how common a broken rib is with hanging)

resuscitation efforts... its common!
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Anyone free to do the own fact checking. I am none the wiser, seems to add more questions.

2 Abrasions of left forearm (damage of the skin)
3 Cutaneous contusion of wrists (brusing of wrists)
4 Subcutaneous hemorrhage of left deltoid muscle (Bleeding beneath the skin on shoulder muscle)
5 Hypertensive and atherosclerotic cardiovascular disase (heart problem that is caused by hardening of arteries)
   Cardiac hypertrophic (abnormally thick heart muscle)
   Left ventricular hypertrophy (left pumping chamber that has thickened maybe inefficient pumping)
   Renal arteriolar sclerosis (Chronic kidney disease)
   Slight coronary atherosclerosis (buildup of plaque inside the artery walls)
   Slight to moderate aortic atherosclerosis (thickening and hardening of arteries)
6 Hepatic steatosis (Fatty liver disease)
7 Cervical lymphadenopathy (lymph nodes disease, abnormal large lymph nodes)
8 Remote fracture of right first rib (Dont know how common a broken rib is with hanging)
9 Remote appendectomy (appendix removed)



https://www.thedailybeast.com/ghislaine-maxwell-chuckles-with-attorneys-at-jury-selection-for-her-sex-trafficking-trial
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her defence seems to be about not being involved in sex trafficking. meaning not being involved in any act prince andrew done.
so she wont admit their crimes as thats simply admitting her own crimes.

so dont expect her to call out the other famous people as it hurts her defence

that said. lets hope the prosecution can trap her in her lies and get a guilty verdict

the only way to get her to name the elitists is if she wants to plead guilty and then reduce her sentance by naming other people

The prosecution has to have a mountain of evidence against this person, should be a quick and easy case. In fact, her defense team was arguing that jurors could not be neutral because they would have disdain and bias against Maxwell because she's rich....funny, because you would think someone would have that sort of bias because she is involved in trafficking of children. But sure, I guess it's because she's rich.
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November 24, 2021, 01:46:05 PM
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Ghislaine Maxwell is fighting to prevent jurors from seeing a copy of Jeffrey Epstein's 'little black book' at her criminal trial
Jeffrey Epstein's "Little Black Book" 95 pages 1971 names  https://epsteinsblackbook.com/all-names
Mick Jagger, page 28.
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November 23, 2021, 10:33:11 PM
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her defence seems to be about not being involved in sex trafficking. meaning not being involved in any act prince andrew done.
so she wont admit their crimes as thats simply admitting her own crimes.

so dont expect her to call out the other famous people as it hurts her defence

that said. lets hope the prosecution can trap her in her lies and get a guilty verdict

the only way to get her to name the elitists is if she wants to plead guilty and then reduce her sentance by naming other people
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November 23, 2021, 06:19:29 AM
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U.S. judge lets Ghislaine Maxwell call 'false memories' expert to testify at trial
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-judge-lets-ghislaine-maxwell-call-false-memories-expert-testify-trial-2021-11-22/

Ghislaine is/was also friends with the Nathan Wolfe aka"Virus Hunter" (book published 2011 about the coming pandemic)


All 26 Locations Bill Clinton Flew With Jeffrey Epstein On The Lolita Express
https://patriotone.substack.com/p/heres-all-26-locations-bill-clinton
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November 22, 2021, 05:57:06 PM
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Will she make it to the end or name names?

Wonder how often the name 'Prince Andrew' will come up in this trial? Not after an exact figure, just to the nearest hundred.  Grin

Prince Andrew's name probably won't come up as the media will run cover for him like they always do. Sure it was a slight story for awhile but he is probably one of the John Does or Corporate Does (what the fuck is that never heard that term before...). I'm surprised they named Lil Wayne (by his real name), Beyonce, R. Kelly (by his full real name) and others in this. Total bombshell, Tash.
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November 22, 2021, 09:15:33 AM
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Will she make it to the end or name names?

Wonder how often the name 'Prince Andrew' will come up in this trial? Not after an exact figure, just to the nearest hundred.  Grin
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...... Another interesting factor is was the Rittenhouse trial even real? Or just a rights grab/scare:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PWc3oVMS6Wfr/

How many criminal trails you know where the accused is right behind the judge without (or with) shackles?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/photos-of-unusual-proximity-between-rittenhouse-and-judge-spark-commentary-tells-you-everything-you-need-to-know
I know very little, next to nothing about the case. Seen the odd photo or story and could not be bothered to read any, too many irregularis.
To me it was always just a distraction just like when you read someone with a suitcase of heroin was apprehended. All it means an other containerload made it into the country. Noob police is happy they got a "big" guy(s) and makes them feel good and worthy of the job, media is happy they have a story, tv goofers are happy thy see some value for money on tax bucks and obviously the crew with the big pay day is happyest of all.

Green screen mishaps are more frequent this days either there is so many or rushed.
Some time ago was this beauty, folder changing color
https://youtu.be/YyHfzcItoFs
At this stage it still seems red, maybe the tree spooked it? The coat of arms or what ever it is at center is red at end it should not be.


Missing foot seems the new normal


Maxwell trial yes there is some big names listed as co-defenders. Will she make it to the end or name names?
David Boies (#22) is the head of Boies Schiller Flexner law firm one of the Democratic party law firms.
Also Clintons, Jeff Bezos, Ira Kleiman (Florida trail), Harvey Weinstein and big Oil, big Bank, Tabacco, Insurance, Health....
https://www.bsfllp.com/about-us/overview.html
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It is time for a dedicated thread as the case will be with us for a little while. Limited news, no live feed and some big names as co defenders.
Ghislaine Maxwell's Lawyer Has Defended Terrorists, Murders and High Profile Ponzi Scheme Fraudsters
https://patriotone.substack.com/p/ghislaine-maxwells-lawyer-has-defended

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18196132/latham-v-the-1953-trust/?fbclid=IwAR2S1irhXPaBHWvXK64gfq6LUMRXsiFNOmSsMToVYGOgwufAymnRAnhgsZs





So the reason why this wasn't covered is because the Kyle Rittenhouse trial was scheduled at the same time. Coincidence? I think not. Additionally, the obvious from what you posted is that those indicted defendants are huge media companies that would like this information suppressed. So there is an interesting paradigm forming here: the Rittenhouse trial was about the potential of taking more of our constitutional rights whereas the Ghislaine trial is about taking back the human liberties and getting real justice for the child sacrifices they've made to their false gods. Another interesting factor is was the Rittenhouse trial even real? Or just a rights grab/scare:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PWc3oVMS6Wfr/
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It is time for a dedicated thread as the case will be with us for a little while. Limited news, no live feed and some big names as co defenders.
Ghislaine Maxwell's Lawyer Has Defended Terrorists, Murders and High Profile Ponzi Scheme Fraudsters
https://patriotone.substack.com/p/ghislaine-maxwells-lawyer-has-defended

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18196132/latham-v-the-1953-trust/?fbclid=IwAR2S1irhXPaBHWvXK64gfq6LUMRXsiFNOmSsMToVYGOgwufAymnRAnhgsZs



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