Topic: girl math vs boy math (Read 646 times)

From this story I draw the conclusion that women prefer to enjoy life and buy daily necessities for an attractive appearance, because beauty is a woman's asset in order to get a well-established boyfriend, (showing high class) even though there is a soul mate (god) who regulates , but instinctively women do like the beauty of the form of self-care efforts although it depends on the character of the woman, there are also those who like simplicity.

Men think more because he is the source of future breadwinners for his wife's children in the future, I myself will certainly do with saving crypto like that, because men can be appreciated when they have money regardless of the type of investment. Between men and women there is reciprocity and mutual need.

If two types of people like that get married, give a commitment for the woman to hold the household money as wisely as possible (pisan with the money that will be given for her needs), or save a few percent every month by the man, in my opinion there will be a lack of money if you are used to buying branded goods and good money management will stabilize the investment that is being undertaken.

Overall, everyone likes to invest both men and women as well as their consumptive nature, only different designations and priorities, of course everything that is done there are results and benefits that can be obtained not always in the form of money

while this is true most of the time. but there are so many women/girls who broke this stereotype about girls, and are Good Bitcoiners, Cryto traders and entrepreneurs in crypto. I know many Crypto token projects with women working as CEO, and other roles.
another reason of that could be the unawareness of Bitcoin in majority of girls. otherwise they wouldn't let such gold opportunity and spend their money on fancy shoes and dresses.

I wont say either of you are wrong in that example.   The reason being diversity is a strength, you might well need both.  You are not wrong to save crypto, history shows that better now then the doubts many had a decade ago but even so the volatility in BTC or any crypto is gigantic.  There is a worth to the normal savings, mostly I would state that as flexibility, a reserve or liquidity; if you have fiat bills to pay thats true.    
  I dont imagine it now but BTC can goto 10k and its not a failure exactly, it would be immense pressure some bad change of law a disastrous administration decision I dont know exactly but extremes in price are possible even while unlikely.  In that context diversity is a positive, I dont recommend anyone to be in BTC 100% as that road has been hard in the past and probably the future.  I favor all perspectives tbh as none are absolutely correct or incorrect.

I actually read it as a generalization of how monetary management strategies varies between a girl and a boy.
It's been documented that there is a large gap on number of male and female using and buying crypto and that is due to the nature of how these two gender perceives money.
I'd like to talk about my personal experience. My partner is one of the brightest female I've ever met. We have most of our priorities matching except for how we want our savings be. I want to invest my saving into crypto while she wants to save it on saving account. Tried to convince her that saving is actually loss due to inflation and crypto is the future but she won't listen.

what is one of the biggest time consuming things huge majority of women do after they wake up
..make up/hair.. sorry just a fact

however most investors check the markets when they wake up

mens grooming habits are less then huge majority as first concern when waking up

but again this topic IN THE ECONOMICS category is about economics

there is no single economic strategy that works for all people
different people have different life concerns, income limits, time limits and priorities.
so yes there are different economic philosophies for different demographs. just dont get triggered if one is branded by a gender for a gender and promoted by that gender simply because it mentions the gender.

A bit cliché its more about those who recognize the worth of working assets over whole generations led to believe just spending money makes you rich.  To own something with high utility is how to stay rich after you spend your cash, I wouldn't say its a gender thing exactly.   Same reasoning between whether women can be engineers or whatever practical job, certainly they are capable its just determination and valuing that job and ability over more retail or modern type economy jobs.
   In this scenario, just holding crypto is commodity speculation the criticism could be that the male is more likely to take gambles & is another cliché.



I thought this was relevant, women know your place    (1938)   To be fair its retrospective and they wont even send you a letter now nevermind a nicely illustrated one.#

The irony to that bit of history would be how much in the war within a few years USA production relied on women in factories doing quite heavy work etc.

I am not gonna deny the lack of using the money wisely by women is more common in this modern era but men also comes into the same category, only few have the vision of investing and getting rich all others concentrate on living fancy life style and hook up with girls and buy them everything for one night stands.

I am quite surprised people still have this mindset that women pay more attention to their looks than they do to investments. I don't know what country these people with these mindsets are from but I live in an environment where women are breaking the bars in almost all the industries, competing favourably with their malw counterparts. These generation of women are becoming even more risk tolerant. We still have men between the ages of 18 to 24 who are still drunk in youthful exuberance, they'd rather invest more in their looks than they invest in viable projects.

Good financial management is not just peculiar to one gender, it is something that should be seen from the individual angle. Anyone can be a very bad Financial manager irrespective of their gender.

I think the gender is only being used as an example when comparing one person over the other. Those who buy fancy stuffs I.e. Rolexes can still sell his stuffs later because it was also kind of investment which value can grow over time. Except maybe on some luxuries items like for example a t-shirt, unless it can became vintage soon like the others. If they are willing to buy fancy stuffs, they shouldn't look for bargains, because they can still afford its original price.

But anyway, it's their choice. If they are into items that don't appreciate in value, we can do much about it. Maybe this is the ones that makes them happy? We also have our own, and they don't have a problem with that as well.

So do you just think and assume that a woman's nature is to care for children, wash dishes, wash clothes, cook, sweep and other housework?
Hey bro, a woman's nature is only to give birth and menstruate. Meanwhile, when it comes to housework and caring for children, it is a shared task. In terms of financial management, business investment and career, this is not directly related to gender differences, but rather through education, experience and good financial decisions. Likewise, in terms of investment, this is not related to gender differences, but is related to the individual's own understanding of financial markets, strategy and good risk management.

And regarding responsibility, I think everyone has their own responsibility, both towards themselves and their families.

It is not a problem, but a thing of priorities, and some in my gender will consider investing more in looking good and nice than in investing in Cryptocurrency. There's a massive misinformation that cryptocurrency and things like that are usually for men and women should concern themselves with looking pretty so that they can attract these kinds of men into romantic relationship that may end in marriage. That is how some ladies think, I meet them always in the hair salon and listen to them when they talk for about priorities, only few ladies mention cryptocurrency, or any other kind of investments.

there is no absolute economic math that works for everyone..
each person develops their own for their own standards, reasons, situations, needs
some financially benefit them, some give them guilt free excuse to expense beyond their means

when girls create their own trend and share it. dont get mad if someone mentions "girl" when its a brand girls created for girls

the importance is not to then get triggered by "girl" being mentioned but realise its just another philosophy, invented, used and shared by the very demograph its branded as. but the point is about the economic philosophy not the brand name

According to my personal reasoning, both women and men in terms of good and intelligent financial management, all individuals have the potential to become good, intelligent and responsive money managers regarding their respective financial conditions. It's just that this matter depends on knowledge, understanding and ability in terms of financial literacy, spending policies and wise financial decisions. This ability is not directly related to gender differences, but rather to the individual's education and experience.

Likewise when talking about dealing with an investment or shares. Both women and men have the same capacity in terms of analyzing and managing an investment. In investment, success is more related to a deep understanding of financial markets, strategy and good risk management. It's just that winning cannot be denied, that when making a decision and taking a risk, women tend to need quite a long time to be able to make a decision, compared to men.

the calculation of men and women, especially married women, is clearly different. that's why the finance or accountant department in a company is filled with more women than men.
because the foresight and accuracy of a woman is more handa than a man, that's why HRD prefers women to fill posts in the finance department of their company.
If a married woman is more careful in managing finances so that her husband's income is enough to live well.

there are actually different economic philosophies. there is no single math that works for everyone
some economic philosophies are there to teach good methods.. some are social trends to jokingly give excuses for wasteful spending

they change over time

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many people think the base financial math philosophy is the golden ratio of ~ (or 30:50:20)
where they say housing should not cost you more then 30% of your income. 50% for other bills/expenses 20% savings/investments

however this number does not work for everyone
those that are poor have a higher housing cost vs income than a rich person
those that are poor have a higher bills cost vs income than a rich person
those that are poor have less spare cash after housing/bills so cant invest as much
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certain people want to do the 20% save/investing. some want to do the 20% excess luxury spending

some even gamble the 50%+20% bill money on slotmachines/scratchcards/races thinking they are investing in future bigger income from jackpots/wins

While I agree with what you just said, I believe that women are generally not created for these things. They don't have the mindset to think about businesses, investments, finances, and all other stuff. I know that a lot of women do them, and they are pretty good at what they do, but that's a minor percentage of the women population of the globe and even they do it because they are compelled to do it. After all, they either don't have someone who can take care of them and their finances or they want to be independent.

Men are created for such things, their minds are built with the thoughts that they have to work, earn money, do business, and all other things because they know they are the ones who have to provide for their families and take care of them. Men are born with mindsets that are ready to take responsibility by the time they reach a certain age.

Yes, it's true, most men will take bigger risks than women, especially in financial matters, so we can see that men use their money more for whatever they like and that is very different from women who still think about it. If they spend the money, they don't need the item.

If a man's business goes bankrupt, of course they will look for various ways to keep the business they have built so that it continues to run well, while women will give up if the business they are running cannot produce the profits they want. Men must of course have an income that can meet their wife's needs so that they don't leave her because most women will leave their husbands if they are unable to support their wives.

24yo male: "Can buy 4 rolexes, but I'd rather continue to hold crypto and go through my life with a cheap watch for a couple of bucks, never spending crypto".

Crypto should not be an end in itself, but a means to achieve goals. The main thing is to stop in time.

There is no such thing as girlish or boyish math. There is just math. Among men there are also a lot of people who behave like 20yo female you described. The only difference is the junk they waste their money on.

In general, a man has a higher level of courage when it comes to taking risks. And of course, when we start an investment, it won't always be profitable, because there is also something called a risk that could cause us to make a loss. But when it comes to making decisions, men tend to be more extreme and a little hasty in making decisions because they think practically and only judge what they will face. and perhaps this is what causes a man to be able to take a risk, even though the risk is quite high and this is also the pattern that makes the world of business, investment and gambling mostly filled by men.

while a woman's tendency to make decisions requires a lot of time, because they have to consider everything, including the consequences they will get. So maybe this is what causes women to be quite hesitant to take a risk, which makes them quite reluctant to enter the world of business or investment.

they will sell. just at different times.
its like pensions (ill simplify it to just 2 demographs of 20yo buyers vs 67yo sellers)
those already invested who are over 20yo wont touch their funds until they are 67 but they eventually will
the people selling out at 67(+) are selling to new buyers at 20(+)

the next level of understanding is not everyone started at the same time.. their 20th birthday year is different to someone elses 20th birthday year
(each year there are new 20yo starting pensions)
the next level of understanding is not everyone ended at the same time.. their 67th retire age is different to someone elses 67th retire age
(each year there are old people claiming pensions)

next level of understanding
not everyone buys in full or sells out fully in 1 year
the 20-66 drip feed in deposits
the 67-100 drip feed out withdrawals

..
then. for simplification. we get into high school math of supply or demand
in pensions if there is a fertile population, more young than old. then the demand is higher then supply

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now translate it to bitcoin
there will be buyers of different stages/times
there are already sellers in profit ready to sell at different times

even if when you are invested and holding X years. there are different investors ready to sell at different times
if there are more coins buy demands then coins on market. prices rise

if everyone invests, I mean here where the money will flow?
because I think the person who sold at the beginning will give the money to those who are still holding back.
Or if everyone invests there will be no loss for each person because they don't sell?

In essence married women will be much more able to control their finances because at this point they are no longer concerned with themselves but rather with how their family's needs can be met well even though their husband's income level is small. The needs of unmarried people are quite different from those of married people because they talk about responsibilities. But for those who are not married, money is definitely sought only for their own needs without sacrificing the needs of other people.

I see women who are much more wasteful before they get married and even though there are also women who are married they are still quite wasteful. There is a fairly basic difference in how someone who is married is much more able to control their money to meet the needs of living together with their family because maybe they were taught by circumstances to live more frugally..

I like how they argue by the knowledge they have, cause if the girl only knew about $100 for sure she would literally pick it, as the boy chooses Bitcoin cause he's either aware of Bitcoin's value or he's doing crypto. But it is still a win-win situation for the girl cause she knows that $100 is a huge amount, but if $100 is an option for a Bitcoin, isn't she would be curious why is it getting compared to $100? Like how her boyfriend keeps saying Bitcoin? By reading your reply I think I have answered my question, might not be true to all of girls or boys but I think we can observe those claims.

What I was trying to say is that it isn’t every female that thinks so, you will be impressed at how some of them think. And it’s the same thing I’ll tell you about what you say about one’s woman leaving them when they are broke. Again, it isn’t always the case I’ve seen families where the woman is playing a great role financially. So maybe we need to be more cautious when we talk on things like this because it makes the hardworking women feel bad and unappreciated. So instead of generalizing it, you can say that some women, or most women will leave.

there is a philosophy that men know the future is not guaranteed so would work/invest for the future. where as some philosophies suggest women always see that future partners/opportunities will pop up. so do not fear taking what they can get in the moment

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as for how modern social media cause changes in peoples economic philosophies.. i have seen a recent trend of people who think homeless are secretly ALL richguys doing RAK(random acts of kindness) skits/reels, so these people would put junk change(pennies) into a homeless guys tip-cup and then expect to be given $xxx back. and if not would just raid the homeless guys whole tip-cup, or argue that the homeless guy didnt perform like a dancing monkey to reward the person who only put a few pennies in

Of course there are differences between female mathematics and male mathematics. Specifically in basic psychology, men take more risks, while women seek certainty (on average). If we can give an example, men and women definitely have different approaches to money.

A man when he had a problem almost went bankrupt. he will reduce expenses, he will create a budget and he will try to earn more. Meanwhile for women, they cannot live without money and it is very unlikely they will run out of money because for them money is everything. If a married man empties his bank account, then the woman will leave and will soon be divorced. So the conclusion is that men's mathematics is better than women's mathematics because men have a strong mentality in all things to earn money.

This reminds me of the videos I've seen before.
- Interviewer: $100 or 1 bitcoin
- Young girls: $100

I haven't seen clips showing how boys/men responded but I'm pretty sure there are some who would choose the $100 as well. Maybe the ratio is 1 boy for every 10 girls hehe.

There are claims that most girls act and think that way because they do not have the natural inclination to provide for anyone other than themselves. Boys are usually shaped as the provider so there's the big difference in mindset.

Very true for majority of the cases but there are cases where the boy math is terrible and he’s thinking to spend his money wrongly (especially with women, have fun, go clubbing, etc). And there are cases when the girl is doing investment calculations too. But no doubt that guys likely think to invest more because there’s that mentality of the tag of men from society.

The example you put is realistic.

That's how women really are, most of them spend their money on beauty products, luxury goods, fancy clothes, etc. And this is normal for women.
For men, most of them don't buy too much in terms of things, not too expensive for the body, a good watch and a simple outfit are okay.

oh my god i mention girl and suddenly it must be an attack....... um..nope
i did not brand/label 'girl math' as 'girl math'... females did.

just treat it as a brand of a economic philosophy that just happens to mention the G word. and you will notice the topic is about economic philosophies
stop crying because i said the word girl and instead treat it as a brand name of a economic philosophy instead of getting triggered by the word girl and thinking it must be a gender attack because it mentions a gender

remember this is a ECONOMICS category
discuss the economic philosophy. dont get triggered because someone mentions a gender

when you start devolving communication into "lets avoid a topic and instead turn it into a gender argument" you are not going to win any debate, you are just avoiding the discussion

this topic in economic category is about the economic philosophy being shared, not the brand name.
dont blame me for the G word in the brand. i didnt invent it.


would make even more sense if people understood the context and content are of 2 different economic philosophies instead of only talking about how a brand name mentions G and then avoid the economic topic to cry how the brand (i had no involvement in inventing) should be rebranded to B(oomers)
knowing all that would do is just still ignore the economic discussion just to scream and cry how its then age-ist.

how about not get triggered by the label as the excuse to avoid talking about the economics

its the same silly mindset as
i wanted to highlight a bitcoin bug in 2016 that would allow junk data be added to block without majority node requirement to validate each byte of data. leading to a scenario where junk can be added in large lumps.... (fast forward to 2022 where ordinal junk shown what my warning was about)

rewind to 2016-2022 just mentioning the flaw over the years, people ignored the flaw discussion and just cried how i mentioned the devs names involved in allowing the bug and instead of seeing the real issue that effects bitcoiners.. they instead just wanted to kiss ass and woke play their admiration of devs as gods that should be defended.. ignoring the bug that needed to be sorted
oh well. when idiots rather want to ass kiss a group rather then discuss the content.. its on them

Would make more sense if you did boomers vs millennials to be honest.

The Americans doesn't like this, where's trans women, trans men, pan sexual, non binary, third gender etc etc.

I think both genders are same, although women are tend to spend the money to men. My assumption most of users that joining in this forum are males and they have better understanding about money management, so the lesson is don't choose women that only loves you when you have money, try to test them to not give money and brought her to live like a poor.

I very often encounter this calculation in everyday life, in general, women want to get something bigger than men. Men are more consistent in their goals, while women are not. It's not that women don't understand how to save and invest, but because of their greater desire, they prefer to spend some of their money to buy something new. This comparison is very realistic and has become the nature of women as explained by Op.

I normally don't care about social media. And social media isn't society. And if one is to spend some precious moments on social media, it shouldn't be on garbage contents like this one.

How could anybody not think that it is not an attack on gender when you are creating labels based on gender? Is it not an attack on gender when you are classifying an otherwise neutral mathematics into girl math and boy math and that the former is associated with squandering, impulsive buying, being shallow, high time preference, and so on while the latter is all about being wise, mature, and so forth?

If that crypto is just a bag of altcoins and he didn't sell during the bull market, it doesn't matter that he had a huge unrealized gain, because the bear market will wipe out all those gains for good and the coins will never recover. And many crypto investors, especially beginners, do in fact hoard hyped altcoins instead of BTC, because they expect quick profits and BTC seems too slow for them.

well the tricks of social media and culture can play different in different era's
there have been era's of the "dead-beat dads" and the "single parent moms"

but yet again we are not so much talking about gender stereotyping.. but economic philosophy


(no genders mentioned in both examples)
invest, accumulate then spend a portion
vs
discount spend. then spend the rest

previous era of
"bread winner"
one earns the household income
vs
"house spouse"
other manages and budgets household income

Apparently, it’s often the case when you have to put these gender together in a means that deals with money management and utilization under normal circumstances. Especially, for the age grade used in making these experiments.

The innate nature of a male child is one that comes with challenges of which most is, having to be the provider, the one that is at the giving end but, the mechanics is different with the female child. They face a different kind of challenge and that be, getting married, yeah, getting married.
As such, the need to be the provider isn’t much of a concern but, it’s often left in the hands of the males.

Of course there are females that have been known to step up and do step up when the situations aren’t right but, there is always a course for this shift. For males, it’s just how life is for the gender.

The use of money for married women and men is of course very different based on their living needs and the needs of their own families, even though the goal is to make themselves and their families happy. However, this will look even more different for an unmarried woman and man who sets goals only for themselves because they don't have family needs that they need to think about. Apart from that, the way women and men care for their face and health is often not the same, so any differences are always born at first.

When someone is older or elderly, of course additional differences in the use of money will also reappear naturally in everyday life because every person who is old or who is still the highest leader in a family will definitely use money very wisely. So that all the money is not spent in vain and can continue to be used to earn more money by investing capital in business, investment and others. This was done only in order to enable his children and grandchildren to experience a more decent life through whatever means, including through more formal education in life after he was no longer around.

Wow I enjoyed this statistic. It is very interesting, although it is funny. Girls usually always think about luxurious things, especially dresses, heels, purses, and some makeup, while a man or a boy can endure and save as much as he can in order to achieve his goal in the near future. That is why you can't compare the methods of thinking of a man and a woman. Although it is not true for all girls that you can compare the method of their thinking with that of men, almost 85% have the same thinking about using expensive things. That is why you always see boys or men who are always thinking of getting more than they have just to live a better life.

Furthermore, men are the breadwinners of the family, and being a breadwinner is not a small task to face, so even if they didn’t inform you of ways to get the money or plan a strategy to make money, you will go and identify it yourself in order to succeed and give a good and best life for you and your family at large. That is why, most of the time, the thinking and calculation of boys and girls are different.

This is your opinion though but I consider it a stereotype and inaccurate generalization that society makes us to believe from the time immemorial. It's time to discard this belief and face the reality because nowadays, we have many women who can manage money excellently and likewise we have men who are extravagant. Actually, women tend to spend more on luxury and irrelevant things but it doesn't mean they're not financially responsible or conscious. There are factors that contribute to this imbalance spending habit between us and we can not conclude generally that one gender is better or worse with money management than another.

On the age of 20 then it would really be that impossible that someone cant really be able to think up well on whats viable things that needs to be done and what are the things that should really be avoided.
Spending up something on wants isnt bad but thinking up more or having that kind of importance when it comes to investment then it is much more worth.
Thinking or mindset would really be that entirely be depending on a certain individuall in regardless of their gender, it is really just that not shocking that girls or women does really like on buying things on which
they would really be that being too impulsive if we do compare it to males on which we are really that adventurous when it comes to investment.This is why that someone who had been thinking about
investment would really be always have the advantage specially if dealing up with Bitcoin or crypto then prices or value could shoot up even more higher or more than on what you do expect on.

I know some smart girls who do business, so I wouldn't generalize. As a matter of fact, my richest neighbor is a woman and there's some really rich people living here, but she's on another level.
The example is good if we don't focus on genders, but rather on a situation an investor will find himself in when compared to a spender. Women are usually spenders, but it doesn't mean men can't be.
My father used to be a saver and he never made big money.

I sometimes feel like this all saving and investing is overrated. I've been in bitcoin for many years and I feel like we're being constantly abused by bad actors. It's scammers, market manipulators, politicians...
I admit that sometimes I feel like giving up and spending all my investments and showing off for a few years before I get too old to enjoy it.

I do feel like there is a stigma and feeling of the "n-word" in this topic. When women talk about girl math, they are making a joke together, they are women and they can joke about it, just like the n-word where people could make that joke or say that word if they belong to that group, but if you are as white as a hospital wall, then I am sorry but it is racist to use that word, it would be considered racist, you may agree or disagree on this arrangement but that is how it is, same with this girl math thing.

Women can go around and talk about girl math and joke about it, because they are women, and they are doing it ironically and they are joking, but when we men do it, it's not nice, it's like we are mocking them, and could be considered sexist, we need to be careful about it.

We can conclude that money will be in the right condition when someone can use it and perhaps the mindset of women and men has a different structure, whether they are young or old. Men usually handle finances differently from women and there are times when the two are often out of sync when combined together, for example how each partner handles money in everyday life with different needs.

The point is that I agree that age and gender will see money differently in the process. Even though money is essentially the same and the only difference is how someone uses it to buy, invest, do business or other ways. Sources of income can be seen from how aggressively a person can produce and opportunities may also differ.

its not about favouring either

just 5 years ago the narrative was the opposite economic philosophy
guys "YOLO LAMBO" and girls "frugal/coupon"

its got do so with for/against the post creator favouring/disliking either. its about economic philosophy

Do you favoring men over women?

I can feel happy with the example of this case, but not everyone is like that, and we all understand that it depends on investment perception. It is not fair that "female" are the ones who study hard and have knowledge about life, their investment abilities are also very different, and it is no exception that "male" also have their own ways of living far away from evil and are unable to invest successfully. I can only describe investing in terms of age. Most of them at that age still have to learn a lot, and admittedly lacking experience, only a few can access the investment space as well can earn profit. The majority are still dependent on material attractions, or are not capable of investing, or they have an unhealthy lifestyle of spending money.

       -   When I read the title made by @franky1, I said to myself that I am weak in math or numbers. But I'm good at counting money . According to the illustration given by OP, I kind of feel like I can relate to this story.

In reality, this really happens; only the patient and steadfast succeed in cryptocurrency. Especially if you know for yourself that you are sure of the crypto assets you are holding that will give you big profits in the future during the upcoming bull run.

many era's of different economic philosophies of genders have manifested.
generally since the civilised world of photography and television.. women wanted to be shiny things, guys wanted to own shiny things

Naturally your postulation is the psychological posture of the female and the male gender, it is believed that as a man your build or wired to provide and create solution and improve on your wealth, but women are built to enhance their beauty, to look good for men and for themselves, so theoretically each of them would want to spend their money on what deems them fit. However this theory is a bit twisted as most young men are usually engulf in youthful exuberance, so at that age they too would want to wear the latest shoes, wristwatches or  drive the best cars, it's just a handful of them that will think about investment.

harmful? (adjective: causing or likely to cause physical damage/injury)
no one is physically hitting anyone..

i did not invent "girl math" infact it was females that popularised it themselves.
and even they are not physically bruising each other over it

if you are in the mindset that topics should not be talked about if a gender is mentioned and then you avoid the content and context of the topics ECONOMIC philosophy, to just act offended by the very mention of a gender.. its time you wake up

you getting triggered by topics for simply mentioning gender is where you are part of a group inciting more gender division and causing arguments by trying to turn every conversation into a gender debate

its like the silly non binary "pronoun" trend that is meant to cause confrontation
here ill spell it out

when two people are talking directly to each other, both sides do not use he/she pronouns in conversation.. grammatically its not even part of the conversation.. in reality and grammatically direct 1-on-1 conversation uses "I" and "YOU"
(try it. have direct conversations with anyone, and count how many times you use the term he/she when talking to them about them.. you will find it very very difficult to even try to insert intentionally " he/she" into a direct conversation when describing them directly to them.)
the pronoun argument is a anti-social trend pretending to solve a problem that was not even part of the conversation

so when one person interrupts the conversation to grammar-nazi check the other person, controlling the other persons narrative by saying they should identify them as not he/she.. that person interrupting is just sheep speaking(mindless copying) a trend they heard on social media. to cause argument in a conversation where by the conversation never spoke the words he/she in the first place, but instead did say i/you..
so grammatically never needed correcting, and instead was just a silly interruption to cause confrontation where no confrontation was needed

when someone interrupts a conversation to then scream about some gender related emotions they have.. or how topic physically injures them because the other person is talking about a topic and not some trend they want to interrupt with.. it gets stupid

by having people get triggered by very mentions of gender where by conversations are being commanded to not talk about topics as a whole unless they met some social media trending grammatical policy.. just makes people avoid the topic completely.. dividing people from even communicating with each other

if you have a issue with people talking about women (good or bad) then thats on you
if you have a issue with people talking about men (good or bad) then thats on you

just the mention of a gender is not a reason to avoid a topic

We must first acknowledge that financial decisions are personal. Instead of gender stereotypes, they reflect personal beliefs. Your female character chooses quick enjoyment, a common human desire, while the male invests in crypto long-term. Not gender, but financial literacy and foresight

Bitcoin support is more than just hoarding it like a dragon. Recognition of its financial transformation potential. Your guy appreciates the value of investing and sees past the attraction of fancy products. A financial revolution, Bitcoin is more than a money. Freeing people from established financial structures, it allows them to manage their finances. The actual lesson is that, not high heels or timepieces

Well - The only subject that scared me in class is MATHS.

I lost my in space after reading the question and i really don't no why I'm replying this.

HAHAHA

Honestly, promoting gender stereotypes for no reason isn't something I endorse. Tons of women don't care and no longer wear high heels, and wouldn't want to spend so much money on something as meaningless as a clothes item. Of course, many males also don't care neither about watches nor about cryptos and hoarding cryptos. Girls aren't stupid and focused on shoes, boys aren't investment geniuses.
Making more generic examples and saying that it's just 'person A' and 'person B' would argue for the same point of accumulating cryptos, without stereotypical harmful gender roles.

My wife does this shit.
She even tacks on the words "Girl Math" when she does it.
At least she recognizes she has a problem 😂.
Sad part is she has her MBA. She's aware.
Should see the buying power girl math has during a mining boom..
"How many pairs of shoes can you mine this week?"

It seems to be a cultural difference. In my country, women tend to save more than men, as you find that most young men buy a new car approximately every 6 months, and before reaching the age of 30, they will have paid more than 200,000 dollars in cars, while women buy a simple car, by the age of 30 they buy an expensive car and so on. Most of the women in my country spend on travel and beauty products, but there is rarely extravagant spending on clothes, while men spend more on cars, houses and watches than on investments.

19yo female: "finds a rich sponsor, someone she would call Daddy"
19yo male: "works on 3 jobs to get money for university, rolex, first investment"
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25yo female: "I have my cheap old out of fashion Jimmy Choo. Daddy please-please-please get me a pair of new one, and since you off to shop, grab me iPhone 15 Pro Max Ultra Carbon Bourbon 1TB"
25 yo male: "still holding, works on a regular job in the office".

both genders suffer from "fake it till you make it" economic philosophy in recent generations

other economic trends like "dont work for the man, take a side hustle".
where minimum wage of $15 = $120 average day but social media promote "make $100 a day" meaning get paid less than minimum wage

there are too many bad economic lessons at play. yet instead of concentrating on the economics, some wanna turn it into a "gender" debate

And do you know what? most people think women are better in financial management to men.

Maybe, but I'm not really sure.

With the current society where everyone try to impress other people e.g. wear branded cloth, eat in luxury hotel, have a lambo etc, even though all the assets they own are borrowed with loan. So we can't really know the real rich person and the fake one.

its about the economics not insulting genders

very recently in the past the roles were reversed
guys would be YOLO'ing lambos and girls would be studying STEM to get good careers to invest in future

its not about insulting a particular gender. its about how ECONOMICS of social media education show different philosophies, perpetrated by their own genders sharing their gender philosophy between themselves using social media to cause economics to change per generation

This is like a slight jab against prioritization of genders, but this is highly true. My ex-partner was always on the lookout for 'deals' on shoes, bags, and clothes thinking that she is doing a great job 'saving' when buying those sale on the mall, while I was there thinking of ways to make money while not actively trading or engaging in something that takes off time for myself in doing other things. Good thing I invested in bitcoin, stuck through it, and made bank and never told her. Most of them think of impressing others, unfortunately, and it becomes their downfall financial wise.

It depends, indeed, on psychological traits and, of course, environment, rather than sex. On the other hand, what if he invested in Luna instead of Bitcoin, or if he panic sold his BTC in March '20 when price fell to 4k? (or other scenarios previously explained?). At least the woman could still possibly sell the shoes on wallapop and get some money back.

I think that frank was joking, and I hope that no woman here feels insulted. If I was a newbie woman and read some of the previous posts, I would feel really discouraged to join a group of crypto-baboons. So sensible, intelligent woman who read these posts: ignore them; you're not alone.

i have no issues with women..
seems your jumping the gender defence bandwaggon rather than see how social media are promoting a new economic narrative

im not the one that invented/promotes/viral-trends  "girl math" nor previous trends of "girl power"*
and like i said in other posts. over time different social trends come and go.
previously for instance the social trend was guys: "YOLO a Lambo" and womens trends were "couponing"
previously for instance the social trend was guys: "support the family home" and womens trends were "girl power in the workplace"
previously for instance the social trend was guys: "men are bread winners" and womens trends were "be the house wife"
previously for instance the social trend was guys: "men go to war" and womens trends were "get to work to support your country"

it swings back and forth, depending on the era. some decade pro female independence some decade con

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the point is not about my personal experiences. because i have no negativity against females, i adore smart women

the point however is, society is the ones speaking such narratives in this decade/era. and it shows how (by how viral these trends get) that it changes societies thoughts on economics

its more about the economic differences of changing times.. not about attacking a gender

*the funniest part about these social economic trends being bashed into a gender battle. is that its actually the females themselves that are derogatory about themselves by using "girl" instead of "women", and its the females sharing social media clips, reels, skits between themselves

I could use some strong words for this, but let me just say that this is outright false.

You're talking about a particular behavior which is not really peculiar to a specific sex or gender. There are extravagant persons, both female and male. There are financially wise persons, both female and male. There are irresponsible men and women.

Although shopping and impulsive buying are normally attached to women, men are also into other things that are equally absurd and costly. It's men who usually spend a treasure on alcohol, drugs, gambling, sex, hobbies, and so on.

OP might have certain issues in the past with particular women. But this is just hasty generalization.

This is clearly an overgeneralization, each individual, doesn't matter what's between their legs have different mindset based on so many things, I know many men who spent most of their money on sneakers, gym supplement, or luxury watch even though their saving is minimal, and the they definitely doesn't have any investment. On the other hand there many of my female peers who invest in housing, stock, or even crypto. And vice versa I also know women who don't invest and man who invest a lot.

My point is assuming that all human with vagina is financially retarded and all human with penis is financially advanced is extremely outdated mindset.

Well, this is somehow realistic. Many women at the age of early 20s are not thinking of their future and more focus on material things that can satisfy themselves. However we should not generalize women as not all have such way of thinking because there are also men who sometimes think that way too.

IMO, it depends on the mindset of each person since regardless of the gender, one can act wisely to spend their money where they can gain in the future rather than spending it in material things. In the end, clearly the future depends on how you act when you are still younger and still capable to work and earn. Because certainly there's a different outcome when you chose the wiser side than the other.

As a married men I do find this joke funny, but I also know the reality. With me being a husband and knowing plenty of my friends who are husbands, we do not spend no money neither, we do spend some. All those new pc's, new ps5, new gta six coming up or something, new watch, wanting to buy a new car? Wanting to get some drinks with friends? You think men spend nothing but just spend on crypto? You do not know men if you think that they do not spend any money for useless stuff. I have spent so much money in my life for absolutely nothing, so I can easily say that its not going to be all that great for me neither, and yes the female part is right, but we are like that as all humans, not just one gender.

This is a good one, we should take a look at things with different perspective. Yesterday I saw some Tweet from some girl, she is making memes because she is not hot enough for onlyfans. So this girl vs boy question doesn't have some universal answer, we are all thrown into this world and we play with cards we got. Some have nice bodies, other have great minds... and while some are blessed with both there are people who don't have either of them.

And math is exact science, something we can't say for life. There's always that "luck" factor, if we don't have luck in crucial moments than all other factors are in vain.

Men are better than women with money on average. Most men don’t spend excessively on non-essential items. Lots of women spend on excessive clothes, shows, make up. Obviously there are exceptions to the rule but it does seem that men are more responsible where spending & money management is concerned.

my topic is not about gender discrimination. its about how the youth view/share their own popular saving/spending methods/philosophies within their own peer/gender groups

"girl math" is a popular philosophy created by women and shared by women. its their own invention. they chose it and popularised it.
its not discrimination just to talk about the subject

im not saying all women think this way but its the current social media narrative of economics that women are branding themselves (most in the teen-25yo age range of females by females)

as for guys the popular trend is the save/invest and then buy products philosophy using the gains not the principal.
(it used to be just "YOLO a lambo")

the point of my post is not to discriminate by just mentioning the 2 trends.
it was to mention the two trends to compare the two different popular trends of modern economic 'teachings' (sharing) on social media

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everyone knows for centuries women have always worked. even classical history and biblical and ancient greek/egyptian scriptures show that women have been leaders(cleopatra,catherine the great, elizabeth the first, queen victoria (hundreds more))
examples of medeival bakers, wheat milling, colonial times saloons, biblical inn's/vineyards, ancient and modern farms, dress makers, writers, modern office workers, etc[insert lots more jobs] show women have for centuries had jobs and a variety of them

however there have always been popularised trends of philosophies that change per era that cause different economics to be taught to change people views

EG men coming back from world wars returned and found lack of jobs. so to reduce the employment market competition (to open up more available jobs for veterans) there were misogynistic campaigns like the 1950's "women should be house wives"

my topic is not about the misogyny of one trend campaign vs another.. its more of the ECONOMIC differences between 2 current trends and how the results of following such trends cause different results

if you post this on twitter i'm sure that many women will come to your tweet and say that they are smarter than most men and claim that they are independent and don't need a man lol.

but my opinion on this is quite simple, that most women, i'm not saying all of them, use their money mostly for consumptive things, such as beauty, luxury goods, etc., because they think that's what they need to please themselves, get praise from other people, or for other reasons, and they consider that to be their most valuable asset. so they don't think twice when they spend that much money just for these things because they think that beauty is important.

while men, most of them think logically and think that they can postpone the things they want for something more important, for example investment. most men prefer to invest their money to be able to make more money, so that they can not only buy the things they dream of but more than that they can become rich people. and especially they don't need beauty or care products like women so they can allocate the money for other things.

There are girls that have the same mindset as us. That can endure all of the luxuries that she desires but they're not that a lot. We know that most of the girls are fashionable and they want to be in at most times.

While us, we can't even buy those personal things that we wanna have but at least sometime in the future, we will be able to afford it for multiple times and that's a real story.

If it's about the patience in investing, we're the same and we can hold for as long as we can be.

I believe that it's in the nature of men to be responsible and take care of their wives and children, from an early age boys will be building their mindset to one day take up the responsibility of a family, this naturally makes him to work harder and safe money for the responsibilities ahead. While in the nature of women with all due respect they're "the weaker sex", they want to focus on taking care of themselves, because they know that one day it'll be a man's responsibility to carter for their needs.

Although I must say that in this age that the naretive is gradually changing, we now have men who are irresponsible and have no plans from their youthful age to take family responsibilities, on the other hand I've seen women who are enterpreneuers, they have investment mindset and from their youthful age, they're never dependant on any man to carter for them.

I have always seen debates regarding who is more likely to spend more or who would have more money between boys or girls

Let me use the words men and women since we are talking about adults stated in your post anyway i really do not like these comparisons since this is obviously a generalization based on a few people who have the means to spend $10k without thinking about its consequences at the end of the day this all depends on one’s economical status and mindset or how they grew up not on their gender

Not all women spend like this and besides don’t men have interests and hobbies as well? How much do men pay for their basketball shoes? For their pc set up? Or for their collection of whatever interest they may have?

I think that there is nothing wrong with indulging yourself once in a while especially if you can afford to do so just make sure to find the right balance and still learn how to invest

The socio-cultural settings of some societies makes the female gender to act this way that they find it difficult neither the necessity to save for investment whereas the male gender is levied and compounded with much expectations and responsibility as a man and it is so unfortunate that base on this almost in all society's we have greater number of entrepreneurs, investors, business tycoons, captains and movers/shakers of industries being male while the female are just invisible to the number. By data statistics  there many self made male millionaires/billionaires in the world to woman, of which for some rich women it was an inherited wealth.

Naturally it is highly presumptive to see women spend so much money and time in enhancing their aesthetic look and feel satisfied at the achievement of such aesthetical feat while a man careless about his facial and skin look, his first and sacrosanct aim is how to double the little sum in his possession to achieve financial success before all else.

I believe that most women doesn't really just think about spending money on heels, clothes, make up, and such. It's just that when it comes to financial aspects, men and women have different attitudes or capacities. This is also based on multiple research conducted about the correlation of gender in different financial aspects. According to this study.

And this is probably the reason why we don't often see women in investment-related stuff like in crypto, where majority of the population comes from men. While for men, it says that

A lot of women can be more risk-averse while for men, they can be a bigger risk-taker and maybe that's also one of the factor why more men tends to be more interested in investment than women. But it doesn't mean they only think about spending for their personal wants. Mostly in households, women tend to handle finances especially when it comes to saving. So maybe they are not that good with risks but can br good in other aspect like saving.

Well this seems a stereo type thing but yeah this happens most of the time anywhere in the world. But regardless of gender I find this happened on both parties if I am not mistaken. I think this depends on someones passion or desire in life some other people choose the other way and then we choose ours. But right now I prefer hoarding Bitcoin.

This doesnt make sense. One person is all about spending on fancy stuff and finding bargains, while the other is into crypto and saving for the long haul. By age 24, the spender has little left, while the saver still has a stash for more rolexes. It's more about their money choices than gender stuff.

This is a joke, right? Not all young girls and boys think like this. Maybe I could add another joke.

20yo girl: I don't have money. Maybe I should start an Onlyfans.
20yo boy: I don't have money. Maybe I should invest in crypto(By "crypto" he means NFTs, pump & dump shitcoins and memecoins)
4 years later....
24yo girl: Great! Now I can retire with the millions of dollars I made by showing my a$$ to horny paying simps on Onlyfans.
24yo boy: Damn it. That memecoin, which was supposed to be "the new Bitcoin" dropped down to zero. I lost my life savings and I'm broke.
I hope that McDonalds is hiring right now.

End of Story.

 

In the first place, this analogical analysis depends on individuals and not about the sex differences. Women are more economical to spending although they are possesed with the attractions to material things. Women are said to be more entrepreneurly flexible to chasing money (income) without having the immunity of shame around their hoods. They are inspirations to breakthroughs.
But on a serious note, the men are usually calculative with the mantle of responsibilities that they are responsible to take care about.
And the fact remains that the governance in a society or a family is overloaded on the man which engages the man to a fascination of his hustling.
Men are likely to be independent knowing quite well that they would be pilar of  their own immediate families somedays and so on, they are concious about their future so, setting up a goal to their financial portfolios is single handedly considered a personal concern to them and not like the women whom are mostly depended by the men for establishment

i think that it's more of the gender difference and the make of the individuals that courses women to desire more of temporal things to making any investment.

It's very rear to find a lady in her early 20s making plans on how to use her earning to invest into profitable business. As a matter of fact, majority of them prefer to be given money that actually making it themselves and this is not a gender talk.

The average guy in his 20s already feels that he has a lot of responsibility to matter for and that he needs to up his game and so they don't joke with their financial life. The guy feels that it is even
His responsibility to cater for the lady and this pushes him to work more and look for ways to invest his money so he can get more to take care of himself and that lady. The lady on the other hand feels that it his the responsibility of his man to take care of here which makes her to become relaxed and less interested in financial matters.

Of course, their are women out there that are doing very well for themselves and are not all that materialistic but if we are considering carrying out a statistic on the majority of females choice of wants to the male, then women tend to tilt more to fashionable stuff compared to male that are investment minded.

It is generally believed that women spend more on clothing than men but most of the current research has disputed these assumptions. I read through several researches and discovered that men are now very conscious of their appearance and their spending on clothing is increasing every year. Therefore men may be no longer thinking about investing but how to look good like David Beckham, Lil Nas X, and Ryan Gosling. It is also common to see men in hairdressing and pedicure shops taking care of their looks, a lifestyle that was scarce in my country.

Nevertheless, I also believe that men will think more about investing than women. In my culture the man has the sole responsibility of taking care of the family, so they have to prepare for this before marrying. Many of them will consider Investing in cryptocurrencies as a means of raising funds to take care of the home. I will also summarize by saying that the habit of investment might influenced by the kind of information that a person is exposed to and not solely a matter of gender.

please the truth is she looked hot and found a sugar daddy to feed her sweets  🍭

at casdinyard

its misogynistic but maybe I was too.

Tiktok fucking ruined my perception of girl vs. boy math lol. In there Girl Math's more on the way that they justify their purchases, while boy math's not necessarily all about crypto but more about how males justify their purchases (example: A man bought a lamma from a farm cause it's the last lamma left and he received a good deal on it, he doesn't own a farm nor enough pasture to feed the animal). Frankly this one's good but the way you portray women here and how all their deal is spending money on the latest fashion trend I think borders around being a little misogynistic as well franky.

I've been with girls who are smarter than me when it comes to money, I've been with people of the male gender (as friends lol don't go thinking of anything weird) who splurge every paycheck they receive and never bother themselves with their financial future. My current girlfriend is smart enough to even incorporate cryptocurrency in her financial setup and has supported me mentally and financially at times with her aptitude in the crypto space.

This all just goes to show that while there's certainly patterns among genders I don't think it's fair for us males and them females to be deconstructed into baser stereotypical googaw,

its not a judgement of genders.. and yes it was more about how investing is more important.
and yes different era's called it different things.
like "couponing" instead of finding discounts codes/knock-offs
like "investing" instead of crypto hoarding

as for a gender poke comment
cavemen worked to hunt for a deer that would create many meals (one day work = month of meat)
cavewomen gather berries 'two for me, one for my man. he wont know so its free"

OP, have you ever considered that s good percentage of this forum is women, silently posting among us too?
It would be a statistical impossibility for things to be otherwise.

The thing is, it's mostly due to our behavior that women stay away from showcasing or even participating with activities such as investing, development etc. Let's worry about raising a good generation or two of boys who will give equal treatment to women as they would to their male coworkers, peers, employees etc. and then maybe worry about giving women life lessons much later down the line. 🤔

It is not really a debate on how girls and boys think. But I get the idea. That's why financial knowledge should be included in school curriculum. People need to learn about money at a very young stage. People need to learn about investment and the benefits of saving money at early age.

And it is not just about millennials. Even people who are in their mind forties, they make the same kind of mistakes by purchasing expensive cars and what not. Education is the key here.

Reading this, I know that there are exceptions but I am wandering if this falls into the psychological nature -nurture debate. Is it in the girl's nature to think math this way or is it her upbringing, society and environment that made it so? By the way girls who are outliers are referred to as "tom-boys".
Another similar question is that is this boy math encoded in his DNA to think this way or is it nurture that made it to be so. The outliers here are referred to as sissies?

This calculation is actually correct, boy calculation is different from girl calculation, in times of making money buys think deeper than the girl likewise when it come to spend too, boys always thinking of becoming a man than get marry and how to take good care his family while girls also think of becoming a woman and get are a very hardworking person that can take good care of her. This big different here is boy looks for money to take care of girl while girl looks for money to take of herself.

so lets show you how people think about money
(example people are 20yo in 2020)

20yo female: "i want to have a $10k pair of high heels before im 24yo"
20yo male: "i want to have a $10k rolex before im 24yo"

20yo female: "i found a chinese knock-off heals for $2k, thats like 20% price, so i have $8k FREE money"
20yo male: "i invested $10k in crypto 2020"

21yo female: "i have $8k FREE i can get matching dress and purse and get my hair done and have a spa week(spends $5k) for FREE"
21yo male: "still hoarding crypto"

23yo female: "i have $3k FREE, oops shoes broke. oh inflation puts replacements at $3k, oh well still FREE"
23yo male: "still hoarding crypto"

24yo female: "i have $0k but i have my cheap out of fashion shoes and a smelly used dress i shouldnt wear again"
24yo male: "still hoarding crypto, i could buy 4 rolexes and still have money left"