Topic: 🚀 GiveMeTron 🚀 🎁 Don't Forget The Affliate Wager Earnings When Gambling 🎁⚡ (Read 634 times)

You should lock this thread and put the closure notice in the title. It’s important that your ANN thread content will updated so that no one will look for this in the future. I don’t know how you will reward the user who register under your link but you should PM him about this closure notice.

This is short duration of service on what I expected but I like the act of being honest on what’s going on. Don’t forget to lock this thread to avoid more spam post here.

Announcement: Our website has been closed and will no longer serve.

no one invested. we only have 1 reference record and we paid our registered reference.  our registered reference hasn't been playing for a long time .

We didn't hurt anyone in this process. it didn't happen we planned and it didn't catch attention.

good day and luck everyone

Nice find. As expected on this kind of service. He is not legally attached to its client which he can runaway once players already sign up using his affiliate link because there’s no way for players to remove it on his account. The only thing players can do is stop playing using there account so that they will let this scammer benefits on there wagered money. Some casino allows multiple account as long as players will declare it and request for suspension to other account. This is hassle because of all the progress made but at least they can’t feed the scammer a free money.

This investment strategy seems too good to be true, and why has nobody given any testimony of your investment, because I just check your website now and no longer active, please what have you to say about this to your previous investors?

Ok I think this is a good way to do it however when we put in evidence that a referral system when there are a lot of people that have this as a business they get up to 2000-5000 referrals the only thing is that all the followers or the referrals have to deposit and play, what would happen if those people, let's say 3000 referrals deposit 2usd, then how much would the person in question receive? because it is a way that cheaters can abuse the system and that would become a vulnerability that they can exploit, which should be avoided at all costs, it's just a suggestion of what I came up with, but I'm just speculating, maybe already They have everything well prepared so that something aspi doesn't happen.

I think if your invited person create a account on this platform and deposit any amount there then you will get some commission from his deposit . and in another way you can get commission by his every single bet he win . this 2 different commission system i seen on some gambling platforms

*update*:
1: for now . all earnings will be processed every sunday. If your earnings are more than 25 tron, tron ​​will be sent to your address on the same day.
2: earnings calculation added . ( For now it is written, we will develop it and make an easy calculation tool. )

I really thought that you runaway already and started a new service to move on but I was wrong for accusing you too early. Do you have any contacts to all your customer to notify them about this huge update? Aside from @dimonstration already suggested, Maybe putting “Temporary Close” on the title of this thread for the meantime is appropriate since your service is not accepting anymore customers to use your service. This is necessary to limit same questions that revolves on your recent update.

It’s nice to see this kind of gesture for being honest on admitting mistakes of your service. This is the quality that forum users that want to see on owners. You should update your original post and include this last update of your as note and highlight it so that new users that will view your thread will not be confused since this post of yours can be easy flooded by other users post and will make it unnoticeable to the public.

Continue improving and come back strong.

I confirm that I received 115 TRX 20 minutes ago.

Hello ,


after opening this topic i saw that we have a lot of issues and we are working hard to update them. I'm very sorry for the delay. We are disabling registrations for now. when we do all the updates. I will update the topic


+ We paid the income of ZTEC. sorry for the delay sir . 115 tron ​​sent to your tron ​​address

Also, our current registered members will continue to receive their earnings. but there may be delays as we are working on updates. We will come back stronger. Also, thank you very much to this community. we realized our mistakes


* we launched this service first. I guess similar projects came out quickly with a bad design . we are constantly working on updates to be even better and I am sure we will come back very strong.


*update*:
1: for now . all earnings will be processed every sunday. If your earnings are more than 25 tron, tron ​​will be sent to your address on the same day.
2: earnings calculation added . ( For now it is written, we will develop it and make an easy calculation tool. )

This is what I'm expecting on this shitty service although this should be a good service if the OP is legit. But since you are already invested to your account with huge wager volume, I think stopping using the account will be a waste of money for you due to your milestone achieved. Let's just wait a couple of days before we tag this service as scam service because the OP is not yet online for a couple of days just to give him chance to explain.

There's new service that offers almost same feature to this one and it started 2 days ago. I don't want to accused that they are connected by the timing is looks like they are. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5408890

It's good that you update us when a developer stops responding and answering communication and stops being active that's the sign that we should stop using their site, I am not aware of this project but checking on their FAQ I saw this


so they even have an assurance that payment is not going to stop and guaranteed to get your payment, they've just used people to use their service this could be scamming their users because they are not delivering what they've promised.

I have so far wagered more than 430 mBTC in Stake casino, but my account on GiveMeTron still only has 10 TRX. I sent them an email two days ago, but they still haven't responded. The OP is not even present here on the forum and I think that this topic can be closed with the conclusion that this service does not work and with a warning to other players not to use it.

I believe that one should not compare one casino as stake with another, from what I have seen in the reviews this is the casino that is the best, there are other casinos that follow, but all the problems always occur when there are certain differences with the withdrawals , and when there are bad things there the hassles start, a casino should have automatic withdrawals enabled and they can say in their terms how high of KYC they can go.

The game is very much associated with Tron it's a casino that promotes Tron, this discussion doesn't deserve to be here it should be on another section for altcoins, OP up to know is not yet wearing a copper account, I wonder what's keeping him from wearing one if you can manage to set up a casino you need a copper account if you're promoting here, it's for your own good to take out all the limitation of being a newbie

I had played 71.21 mBTC at Stake casino on the following games: Stake Originals Blackjack, Roulette and Dice.

They did pay the guy but it was only 10 tron. That means he needs another 15 of them to see the whole 25 trx in the wallet that he signed up with. He said he invested in stake casino? But, how come when stake don't have investment features. Maybe that is the reason why there is no trx added on his account.

The rules clearly state that the only way to earn is when someone made wagers in a casino that this site supports. It also states that the payments are done automatically but that is a must and not that they will manually pay once there is some users post on this thread as that will be a hassle. This was still a new site anyway so we can give them some consideration but they must promise to improve their service soon.

I also think the same as you, if we take it as a business model it is quite good if you know how to exploit it, but looking at it from another point of view, I think they have to have a considerable amount of reference to be able to see some profitability, however I think which OP should show a bit more, some results (if any) this so it can be more believable. I would like to know if OP has already had results, if he is the dev, or if he is simply following a referral program, whatever the case I would like to know, also as they have said before, it is a newbie account and it is needed have a good reputation to be a little more trustworthy.

The site looks very basic and is not at all intuitive. It should be more specific and have more info in it.
As a user we can't understand much by visiting the site. I think OP should accumulate all the info provided in this thread and attach it to the site.

Just continue until you reach the minimum wager amount so that we can conclude if this service is really paying or not. The OP is active in the forum in daily basis so probably he will credit your balance once he became online again. This service is not automatic and not following to the timeline on the faqs that he stated on his website. Probably he is doing everything manually without any help that cause this delay on payment.

I have invested 71.21 mBTC in Stake casino so far, but my account on GiveMeTron still says that I only have 10 TRX (this amount was added more than 6 days ago after I invested about 32 mBTC in Stake casino).

On GiveMeTron I did not notice that anything was changed except that this text was added next to the reference link to Stake casino:
Sign up with our referral link. all your wager earnings will be automatically reflected in your account at 03:00 gmt. You can gamble with any cryptocurrency and your earnings will be automatically reflected as tron.
Stake Earn %:
Wager * 0.015 = Your Earnings

This service is new and there is a chance for typo error like this but most important is, The amount you are receiving is almost close the normal commission rate because this service was supposed to be not available on normal scenario because it's same as self referral which is not allowed. This service just introduced a new way to let us regular user benefits on commission rate so let's be patient on errors.

Do you try to make withdrawal already?

And now after 1 million wagered on Stake, I feel really bad seeing this clever idea. 

Welcome to Bitcointalk forum
From content above seems withdrawal is only available with Tron is there provision to add additional withdrawal methods i.e, if you can support withdrawal with another cryptocurrencies
 like btc, LTC, bnb and dogecoin. Secondly seems this is just a testnet website maybe v.1?

I understand how Stake casino calculates the commission, but the team at GiveMeTron doesn't seem to understand it, or doesn't want to understand it. In their FAQ, they are full of contradictions: in one place it says that they give a commission rate of 0.15, while in another place it says that the commission is calculated as wager*0.025 (for me as a player it says wager*0.015).
The page was made completely amateurishly with incomplete and confused information, their representative here on the forum does not cooperate much and does not pay attention to the opinions of other members. It is not enough to write that something will be fixed and add new information if it is not promptly fixed.
I may be wrong and I apologize in advance, but the communication with the representative of the GiveMeTron team irresistibly reminds me of the communication with the representative of BetJa sportsbook, who recently shut down all their websites and the Telegram channel for support. And their representative answered very curtly to all my questions or didn't answer at all. BetJa sportsbook had a very interesting affiliate concept, but they also had an explanation in one or two sentences. After my additional questions, they changed the terms, but did not publish them anywhere. After that, everything disappeared very quickly...

Above computation was wrong because the real commission profit computation includes the house edge of the particular game you are playing not just total wagered multiply by commission rate.

Casino
All of our games have a different house edge. You can derive your commission using the following formula:

Sportsbook
All sports bets are applied at a 3% theoretical house edge. You can derive your commission using the following formula:

Full info here: https://stake.com/affiliate

For sure I have experience in this, almost the same idea that you set in your referral site, the result is bad in the future.

Facts, you and your team, if there are, of course one day you can deny the facts you wrote.

I have doubts about this.

I'm sure, one and two times the investment, gambling betting referrals and your income will pay for it, over time a fight occurs, I'm sure of that, maybe for me it's more comfortable to make gambling bets as usual in general, deposit bets, win and lose at my risk.

I hope and anyone involved in investing with your website will have no problems in the future.

This is what their FAQ says:

"What is your earnings?
example :
our commission rate = 0.025
your casino wager * 0.025 = total earnings
your casino wager * 0.015 = your earnings
so 0.010 is our earnings
In the investment place, we give out 0.003 more to big gamblers. *0.018"

I conclude from this that my earnings are 1.5% and not 0.10% as you calculated. Or did I miss something?

It’s very simple;

Stake Commission Rate = 0.10%
Your Total Wager = 32.41mbtc
Earnings in BTC without the fee= 0.0010 x 32.41 = 0.03241mbtc or 0.00003241BTC

Current conversion rate of TRX in BTC; 1TRX = 0.00000315BTC
Your Earnings in TRX = 0.00003241BTC / 0.00000315BTC= 10.28 TRX

I think he charge conversion fee that’s why your commission is round off to 10. And also he gives you 0.10% and take 0.5% as his fee. This is the math he is using.

Yes, I have 10 TRX in my account now. Can you explain to me what formula you use to calculate my refund? In the FAQ it is written: "When you use our reference link, you can see your wager statistics and calculate the amount we will pay. so no scam. There is a mathematical function for calculation on our website. wager * commission rate = your earn"
My wager statistic for the first two days is 32.41 mBTC at Stake casino. How did you calculate 10 TRX, I need an explanation because I don't understand the calculation.

Don't you check your account? 10 tron ​​is already in your account. When you reach 25 tron, it will be automatically sent to your tron ​​account.

Keep us updated about you issue mate. I was worrying about this issue even before because they are offering a higher commission rate than usual while we didn't know if this casino is really an affiliate of Stake or not but this delays is clear sign that this service is not being honest or maybe they don't have an automatic system to convert all the commission fee to Tron and sent directly to customers balance account. For the mean time maybe warning the potential user to warn them agains this service until your issue was resolved.


Beware!

After more than 2 days, I still haven't received a refund. Is your service working? It is unprofessional that there are already many problems in the beginning

thank you sir . we will make the fixed and explain in more detail

I confirm that 7 TRX have been added to my account, but nowhere on the site can I find an explanation as to why exactly that amount was added. And you have to specify the exact rules when the refund is added each day and for what time period it is calculated. For me, more than 40 hours have passed since the start of the first game in Stake casino, and I still haven't received a refund, even though it says in the FAQ section that it will be added within 24 hours. Please fix it and add the correct rules to the FAQ section otherwise you are misleading and doubting potential new players.

for the first registration. now transferred

Just to let everyone know: it's now been over 35 hours since I registered at Stake casino via the GiveMeTron link and I've invested a total of 32.41124 mBTC. I still haven't received a refund on GiveMeTron even though it says that the payout is every 24 hours

I don't know if what we have where is the alternative account or what but I would like to advise you that li4e do anything deposit in any platform that you are not comfortable with and one that you are comfortable with will have to verify by making a proper research indefinite research that we educate you about the company or a platform before you can do anything the body because the site programming or designing so you if the child will be accessible to put on because there is no side that you want to appreciate that will not allow you to deposit

this site will need time to gain trust from the gambling community. the interest rate is high. but how confident are you to trust high amount of funds to this site? so yeah, they need more time in this business in order for them to acquire high rollers. also, i do agree, a lot of forum users are already players of those sites. i don't think they will create another account just for this. it may somehow put their account at risk. so nope.

Hello,
I registered yesterday at Stake casino through your GiveMeTron page and I invested a total of 12.60813 mBTC in the Stake casino. That was more than 16 hours ago. In your rules it says: "Your earnings will be added within 24 hours and automatically sent to your registered tron wallet when it reaches the min withdrawal limit (25 tron)." Is there an exact time when you add earnings?

 convert with $

  If you earned $10 in 24 hours. $10 tron(example now 149 tron) ​​will be credited to your account

That's true... many people from here already have some higher level, and it's not like it's simple to just wager it all over again!


That's the easy part... but there's also this:


So it's not just an affiliate business model, it's also an investing site... 20% monthly...

Well, generally a good idea, but I think the big problem is trust... we all know it takes time for that! Maybe OP can consider some escrow, he can find someone on the forum for that... it can be a good guarantee that he will do what he promised! I am not sure he can speed up the process of getting players and investors in any other way.

you refer stake and windice at the moment, so that possible you will add another gambling site as a suggestion?, so because you open the thread here,  I think it is better to add a website that refers to a signature campaign.

how to change the password account?. I only saw contact us and log out on to my profile.

And I can't see forget password on sign-in also, so when I forgot a password I don't know how to recover it.

Thanks for considering my suggestion and applying the changes so quickly. You still need to add a ToS page, though.
Regarding your service, you should understand Tha the skepticism of some users and their reluctance to use your service is totally reasonable unless you somehow find a way to prove that you are indeed in partnership with those casinos and there is no risk in registering under your affiliate link with new accounts. You can, for example, ask their PR to post here and confirm it in order to remove any doubts.

Seems a viable idea but the biggest thing that comes to mind when thinking of referrals is the long term aspect.  If referrals are going via this website even with some boost to earnings, the risk would be in those referrals handled long term and the viability and continuation of the website.  People have to weigh the added bonus vs the possible risk of this website over many years which referral revenue can exist for in the luckiest cases though I realize most referral is not quite that perfect scenario.

Wow, that's quick.

Thank you for considering that suggestion because most will really keep asking this and that and other the same questions so that's a nice addition that you've got there.

There are still too many questions that needs to be answered and I guess you're doing it good as you listen to those suggestions to you.

OP offers to register for stake and windice using his referral link, but many here are already registered there, at stake anyway, so I don't think anyone will risk making a second account for the sake of dubious benefits.

There is a calculation function for each casino when you visit our website. You know the amount of wager you play yourself, and you can calculate it to verify yourself.
we can see your wager from the reference panel and we do the same calculation and add it as tron ​​to your balance on our website.
Our website will continue until users leave us. will continue until only 1 user remains. so win win

So, how do you show people what their referral commission is, when they signup with your referral account? I get a whole layout of each of my referrals ..... and nobody else have access to that data. How do you know, I used your referral link... and that people should fall under me?

What happens when you terminate this service.... will you continue receiving all the referral commission ....and the people who referred them ..then gets nothing? 

cookie policy added

That's good.
However, when signing up the website asks us to confirm that we agree to your terms and that we have read your Cookie policy! The problem is that there is no link to your terms page so we can read it. And the Cookie policy link redirects to: https://www.privacypolicygenerator.info/ which is as the name suggests a tool to generate privacy policies for companies.
How can we agree to terms that we didn't read and doesn't even exist!
You need to finish these two parts before enabling registration.

FAQ added

Don’t leave the tron for the short run.When the project is based on the tron,their will be huge gamblers involved in this gambling site.Since the tron had the positive feedback over a period of time.The gambling had the good number of investors over a certain period of time.For every gambling their will be some commission rate for the wage earned by the players.The choosing of the crypto currency for the gambling sites is very important.

Need to login to your website, it's better if someone can just go there and have a visit to understand how it goes. Like putting a FAQ under the page but there's none.

I understand the business model that you've got for being an affiliate for those two casinos that you've partnered with and you've got higher commission than the usual and that's where it all starts.

As how I see it, I think op earn from commission from the gambling site if op did manage to find gamblers and access the gambling site through the site that op has provided if I am not wrong. As what I can say about it is op is a partner of stake and windice as stated in the site. I don't think that the amount you will get from your referrals won't be good amount so, that's what I think why op prefer to get commission from stake and windice when op manage to attract gamblers. As far as I can see in the site, there is only two gambling site as you can see when you access the site. (I think it's because it is new and as of now, op only manage to partner up with windice and stake. Maybe op will add more.

you need to understand this. Crypto casino sites increase their commission rates for promotion. If you have a website or social media audience, you can send an e-mail to increase your commission.   I have to explain that this is a collaborative effort, so if you play, you earn and we earn. We pay 100% because actually everything is in your hands. When you use our reference link, you can see your wager statistics and calculate the amount we will pay. so no scam.
There is a mathematical function for calculation on our website.
wager * commission rate = your earn

If we do not pay you , you will stop using our referral link . Of course, that will never happen because we work together. we make a commission increase agreement with websites . In fact, if you use your own referral link, you will receive very little commission, we earn more on commission. and you can save on our website. If you want, you can invest and get a lump sum at the end of the month. If there are websites you want to see, we can add them to our website after talking to them. 

How do we guarantee that we will be getting the rewards and that our accounts will not get banned? I'm kinda skeptical on these kinds of setup because our supposed-to-be earnings are locked on your end, without any guarantee that we'll get it in the end. Also, I'm not sold on your pitch that you have a special arrangement with Stake that does not get you banned for what you're doing. If you're that close to Stake, why ask people to sign on your referral link when you can just give them some of your service for more money in the end?

Regardless, it's still strange that you don't have any information nor details about your service and the service you're about to provide on your site. That's not overly user-friendly for the average person.
Also, the level of trust that this is going to require on the part of the user to use this service, and the capability of the user to understand the solution they're about to get to, is highly dubious. You'll have a ton of people trying to figure out what you're all about, and only by giving the user some kind of transparency and more of a reason to trust you in this matter will they trust you.

Sorry. This type of service really do sounds to be shady at least on my opinion. The invest feature. What type of investment is it? The refer to earn. These kind of things are really doubtful nowadays. Because of these things, I do not trust the site. Unless you establish yourself and be able to pay your users.

Welcome to bitcointalk

You can view details once you register and login the website. But I agree that Faqs should be available and visible without the need of account registration. Although you can’t visit the website without seeing this ANN thread first since this service is not famous so you can’t randomly stumble on this website by any chance if you don’t see this thread first.

we first publish on bitcointalk. because here we will review the comments and prepare a briefing on our website. we needed to get the questions

I also like to read more about the site but not here, all information should be available on the site what about those who are not members of this forum and just stumble your site, and are you just promoting your site exclusively for Bitcointalk users, you have to provide us something on the site, there should be explainer on what your site functions if you cannot create an FAQ why not create an explainer video and post it on your site, I don't think I can trust this site that does not provide details.

I just visited your site. I think it doesn't make any sense for the service you provide. This made me back out and not register with you, so you should make some changes and add some explanations for the service in addition to the FAQ.
It is not possible to get wide traffic if your site does not provide terms and conditions, and you have to add more information so that the user can understand the service you provide and encourage him to register with you according!!!

If not for this post I will not know what your site is all about because there's nothing there that I will explain what's your site is all about no terms of service no FAQ no explanation given on the homepage, you better configure your site in a way that will give visitors what the site is all about, I did not register I don't sign up to a site that do not explain what their site is all about.

this applies to you. If you use a sub account, all your accounts will be banned.If you use our referral link, this sub-account will not be counted and you can earn from referral commission, everything looks legit.

when you use a sub-account, your accounts at risk. you also get a commission rate of 0.10. but we pay at 0.15 and your accounts will not be at risk of being banned.

I already answered in #3

Welcome to the forum, why not get a copper member account to be able to post some images of your referral earnings, most of us here will like to see some of those evidence before we can trust your site. I see that you affiliate your thread with stake does that mean you already have a deal with stake?

any suggestions?

everything is legal. We have only made a commission raising agreement with the websites. Our stake commission rate is 0.25 . If you use the referral link of your sub account, you will receive a commission rate of 0.10. but we give 0.15 commission rate . You will also be banned from using multiple accounts. so our gain is 0.10 . your 0.15 . everything belongs to you why should we lose you . If we don't pay, we can't make a earn.

This is an interesting idea for maximizing referral earnings. But I'm interested on how you make profit on this method? I have no idea about the commission rate of both stake and windice so I'm assuming you are deducting part of it to be your profit. This offer is a bit too good to be true and it will be helpful if you can provide any document that will proved that your service is officially partnered by stakes and windice because there's a chance that you might not pay all the commission earning in the long run if you are not really affliated to them.

But this service is good in general if this is legit. I might try this if you can provide what I'm asking. Good luck!