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June 15, 2011, 12:08:33 AM
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Any update on this, is it still happening?
Progress has been a bit slow but yes, this is still moving forward. I've asked for some help on the glbse.com forum about getting the company listed, you can follow it here http://glbse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=41
newbie
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June 14, 2011, 09:22:45 AM
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Any update on this, is it still happening?
newbie
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June 08, 2011, 01:28:37 PM
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so your basically cloning rentacoder and getafreelancer but using bitcoins
Well not a clone of either exactly, but yes, the same basic idea but using bitcoin.

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samir's secret sharing
everybody get's an encrypted piece, must combine all the pieces to unlock
obvious problems if one shareholder goes AWOL though

It's possible to solve the missing shareholder problem by reducing the amount required to solve (to say 75%) I believe. I'm still not sure how it could be made to work though, if we divide into one part per share how do we actually issue the parts to shareholders? And what happens when the shares are sold on from the initial buyer? I think it would require either support on the exchange or way too much 'bookkeeping' to be particle.
sr. member
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June 08, 2011, 09:23:34 AM
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so your basically cloning rentacoder and getafreelancer but using bitcoins

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trusted way of making the site code/administrators passwords available if the shareholders pass a vote to release it

samir's secret sharing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamir%27s_Secret_Sharing

everybody get's an encrypted piece, must combine all the pieces to unlock
obvious problems if one shareholder goes AWOL though
newbie
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June 08, 2011, 08:46:08 AM
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How about btcsolver.com
That's not too bad, it's available too. Any other suggestions from anyone?
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June 06, 2011, 09:31:46 PM
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How about btcsolver.com Cheesy
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June 05, 2011, 08:25:48 PM
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I'm also interested in suggestions for the names for the site and company.
newbie
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June 04, 2011, 11:22:00 AM
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Sounds cool to me, I'll buy a few shares once this gets listed.
newbie
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June 02, 2011, 07:02:40 PM
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Ok, no problem.
sr. member
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June 01, 2011, 11:28:02 PM
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For 15 BTC and a link to ubitex.org in the footer, I'll host your site on my dedi.
I assume that's 15BTC a year Grin. Thanks for the offer, if you have all the usual PHP/mysql stuff and can run bitcoind it might be a good option to get started with.

Also, as someone who's launched/running a bitcoin 'company' I'm really interested to hear your views on the shareholder run company ideas too.

Ah, you need a local bitcoind. We'd rather not host that (we're running our own for seeeeecret reasons, think they might conflict.) Sorry!

newbie
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June 01, 2011, 11:07:58 PM
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For 15 BTC and a link to ubitex.org in the footer, I'll host your site on my dedi.
I assume that's 15BTC a year Grin. Thanks for the offer, if you have all the usual PHP/mysql stuff and can run bitcoind it might be a good option to get started with.

Also, as someone who's launched/running a bitcoin 'company' I'm really interested to hear your views on the shareholder run company ideas too.
sr. member
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June 01, 2011, 06:03:44 PM
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For 15 BTC and a link to ubitex.org in the footer, I'll host your site on my dedi.
newbie
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June 01, 2011, 05:50:20 PM
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I've been working on a site that can act as escrow and independent arbitration for bitcoin projects and have been thinking of listing it on GLBSE. Since the code for the site is approaching a useful testing state it seems now may be a good time to get some feedback from potential investors.

Site Overview
The site will provide a method for employers to hire employees to complete digital work (projects) for them. The payment method for all transactions will be in bitcoin.

btcarbitrator will take a fee from all projects through the site (at project resolution) in return for acting as an impartial arbitrator in the case of a dispute between the employer and employee.

Typical work flow

An employer will advertise a project by creating a listing for it on the site. The listing should include a detailed description of the required work and a maximum amount the employer will consider paying for the completed project, and a required deadline for completion.

Potential employees may then contact the employer through the site to clarify further details about the project or to bid on the project.

If the employer decides one of the bids made by an employee on a project is acceptable, they will accept the bid. At this point the bid amount (in bitcoins) will be deposited to btcarbitrator to be held in escrow until project conclusion.

If the project is completed to the employers satisfaction, the funds held in escrow will be released and transferred to the employee (minus the btcarbitrator fee).

Arbitration
If during the period after a bid is accepted but before the funds are released from escrow either the employee or employer chooses to enter arbitration for any reason the project will enter an arbitration phase. During this phase both parties will be required to provide evidence to show how they have kept to the agreement entered into when the bid was accepted. All existing on-site communication between the employer and employee will also be considered as evidence. btcarbitrator will then be responsible for deciding an outcome based on the provided evidence. This outcome maybe a complete (minus btcarbitrator fee) refund to the employer, a completed project payment to the employer or a partial refund to the employer and and partial payment to the employee.

I want to make the company totally run by the shareholders and as robust as possible. Ideally, after launch the company should be able to continue on even in my absence. This is were I'd love some ideas from the potential investors, many of whom probably have more knowledge of this stuff than me.

Initially, I'd like some trusted way of making the site code/administrators passwords available if the shareholders pass a vote to release it. This is for two reasons, firstly it should give the initial investors confidence that they can't be left with absolutely nothing from their investment (they will at least have a share of the company assets). Secondly it's to allow the company to continue functioning if anything should happen to me.

It seems to me the only way to do this currently is to ask some trusted member of the bitcoin community to act as a sort of escrow, promising to respect any vote passed. Another idea was to somehow use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamir%27s_Secret_Sharing, but given that any vote will likely be to pass the 'site' to another individual rather than release it publicly I'm not sure this could work.

Company funds
At initial listing the financial state of the company could be considered as follows (italic items are still to be done before listing):
Assets:
  • The site code and design work
  • 1 month of VPS hosting
  • 1 year of domain registration
Debts:
  • Payment for site code and design work, owed to me to be payed in non-voting company shares
  • 5BTC for VPS hosting (owed to me, with no interest)
  • 3BTC for domain registration (owed to me, with no interest)
Ongoing costs:
  • 5BTC/month for VPS hosting
  • 3BTC/year for domain hosting
  • Some form of renumeration for company employees (see company structure)

Given this, an initial issue of something like 150BTC of shares seems reasonable to me, allowing the company to run for a reasonable amount of time before needing to turn a profit, although I'd love to hear peoples opinions on this.
Company structure

Company management
Management decisions for the site should be made by the shareholders. The obvious way to do this seems to be to hold an election for a CEO type leader (or possibly a board of directors). Again I'd love to hear opinions on how this could work.

Company employees
Company employees should be 'hired' by company management to actually run the site. Initially there seems to be two (types) of employees for the company.

Developer/IT officer: this will initially be me, continuing with the site development.

Arbitrator: This will be the person (and hopefully later people) responsible for arbitrating on the projects listed on the site. They may also be responsible for approving/moderating project listing and providing user support. Drafting the initial policies arbitration/project listing etc. is also possible for this role.

Future direction
It has been suggested by a few people that the site might also be able to arbitrate on bitcoin financial transactions, this is a interesting idea and an example of something that shareholders could potentially vote on.


These as just my current thoughts, I'd like to have a much more detailed plan before I ask for anyones investment, so please ask questions and give your opinions.
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