Topic: Global warming explained once and for all. IPCC says: nothing to worry about (Read 642 times)

^^^ But Eskimos would move to warmer lands if they could only break their habits of cold-land life. I mean, back when the Northern lands were a tropical paradise, their ancestors lived like equatorial islanders.

not really
if an average comfortable temperature for humans is ~20^oc (15-25)
alot more people suffer at 40 than they do at 0
inuits/eskimos live hundreds of generations at -10 but how long can people live at 50
so yea i can see the fear of temperature rise.

but the whole 'carbon effects the green house gas' stuff.. has nothing to do with ground temperatures at all
thats stratosphere talk not troposphere

it would be better to say about how the carbon falls in snow/rain and turns the ice sheets black thus making them melt thus changing the temperature and such. but being vague and saying its a greenhouse gas thing. just doesnt grasp the detail and makes things very iffy.

also the whole '0.x^oc' is just not really compelling fear. especially when there is usually a 30^oc swing in temperature depending on seasons. a 0.x^oc just becomes a marginal statistical error probablity amount

what is more concerning is that in places near jakarta pretend the sea level rise is huge...
but actual sea level rise is only millimeters a year. but the ground subsidence is alot more. thus making it look like the sea is rising, where as the truth is the land is falling

yep indonesia pollute river water so companies grab at the underground water to bottle, wash, farm with, which cause the land to subside

too many idiots with half sciences always try to blame carbon. yet carbon is far far lower than the 1800's
the reason people dont know this. is because the measuring techniques changed in ~1960 which has offset/hidden the real value pre-1960 because the real value pre1960 was limited
if people think london is more smoggy than the 1800. then they are reading the wrong fact sheets

Now the media is coming out with the fact that governments and science have been trying to control global warming for some time... in unorthodox ways... like chemtrails.


First it was a “conspiracy theory,” now the mainstream media says geoengineering will fix global warming

There are ocean currents which operate on a 60-80 year cycle, such as the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) which overlay cold-hot-cold-hot patterns on weather. For example, your note of 1950-1980 and so forth.

but when nature loves the temperature of 22-27^oc saying the 'average temperature of 17^oc is going up by 1-2^oc. doesnt seem to be a 'globe threat' but a human sweat threat

im all for the science of what caused what. but when graphs are shown as only 95% confident. and choosing a base line not based on the temperature that is actually healthiest for plant growth. kinda makes the numbers less meaningful.
take the temperature measures. they actually have graphs where it shows they tweak the numbers to have a consistent 'dry days' chart

they also have charts of 'hottest recorded day'
al of this sways to show hot hot hot data

yet if they just took data as is. and included the coldest days too. they would not be beating the drum of 'global warming' but in actual fact it would be climate change. (because the numbers for the cold has changed just as much as the hot

yep they are saying that the 1950's1980's america is hotter then say the 1850-1920's
yet for instance. the 'dustbowl' of the 1930's (hot)
yet for instance the US coldest day was recorded in alaska in 1971 (80 degree below zero) and previously in montana was 70 degrees below 0 in 1954
yep it was colder in the 1970s than it was in the 1950's than is was compared to pre industrial levels

colds getting colder hots getting hotter. = climate change not global warming
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yes i believe many aspects are man made. such as making all the dams across the US caused water to fill in large lakes which keep the water col to not evaporate as much as it would flowing freely in creeks, streams and farmland. (dustbowl wouldnt have happened as badly in the 30's if dams were not made)

humans shifting the natural river courses for irrigation causes different area's to suddenly dry up

concrete over land(making cities) stops water soaking into land (less ground water) = less water in underground aquifers
which does impact real life stuff

california's 'salton sea' dries up because they dammed the river that used to feed it so that cities in california can tap into it instead

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im all for actual science discovery. but not when they tweak the numbers to exacerbate the situation or make it seem more related to carbon. when the reality is infrastructure like dams, water tables, and land moisture absorption.
my research is more about how the brazilian RAIN forest being chopped down. causes negative MOISTURE impacts(RAIN) its a rainforest, not a carbon forest after all

Cold is an order of magnitude more deadly than an equal increase in heat.

comparing the temperature to the 1800's is a little silly.
after all in London they had the 'frost fair' where by it was so cold that the river Thames completely froze over.
sorry but thats not 'norm' level to compare against.

UK can go from -2^oc for an average winter. to 28^oC average summer

thats 30^o normal variance. and so 1.5^o is only 5% variance

but here is the funny thing.
the different charts for the last 200 years actually have this say 5% offset.
yes we should ofcourse expect 5% high temperatures than the average.
but the fture is not the only years that experienced this 5% offset to the average

its kind of funny how they can pretend that temperature change has only moved by 0.x^oC
since the 1600
yet 'the little iceage' in the 1700-1900 proves otherwise

london chimney sweeps were the best business in town because everyone needed their chimneys cleaned regularly because it was always cold and they always needed their fires on
irish famine due to bad weather previous seasons causing potato rot that ruined crops for years


seems these silly graphs of 'averaged' lines that strangely only moved 0.x^oc.. have made people to actually forget real history
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and who the hell decided to choose the 1950's-80's as a base period to then say whats + or -

plants dont like the cold. plants dont like low carbon.
so whats to say what is healthy for the planet to grow.. vs people to live without sunburn vs frost burn

are these numbers in favour of planet or human comfort
all i know is that NEVER, EVER in the history of eternaty has this planet ever had a nice happy human loving base temperature of 17^oc long term
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im not a climate denier or a anti-science. but some of these graphs have actual flaws which do not help them
plus you gotta laugh when they say that london is more smoggy now than in the 1800's. that is like the biggest farse known to man

It always comes down to now.  It's why people drink or smoke or eat.  We crave the dopamine hit and want it now.   A less intelligent animal (i.e. mouse) would starve to death in favor of dopamine.

We are asking everyone who has worked hard to stop wanting more stuff.   We are asking billions in third world countries to not want what we have. 

We are asking everyone to deny themselves dopamine, which goes against millions of years of evolution.  It's much easier to ask the next generation to do it.

Nothing to worry about what? About the temperature reaching its upper limit? How about its effect in nature? I don't think its gonna be that easy. Yes, the earth has a way to compensate for it and that might get extreme for humans. You see we are experiencing lots of abnormal phenomenon and global warming might be a part of it. It's not nothing to worry about. It kills people, it damages property. It's must not be taken for granted just because some scientists or reports says it reach its peak.

If you were sincere, you wouldn't be on the forum. You would have done your part by ditching modern technology long ago. You'd be living like the Amish, who never really got into technology.


Amazing moment 300 Amish men lift a huge barn with their bare hands and move it across a field.

I don't believe this kind of a thing. You can feel it so it must be true?

Nothing to worry about?
The climate has already changed and we have to act fast if we want to overcome the worst.
There are so many extreme changes in the temperature of my region that are not normal. You can feel the disaster without being a scientist.

We forgot all about global warming in the pandemic. I guess it's because the governmental powers that be finally needed to focus on something else that was false... at least for a while.


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Global warming is a scam,  anyone who believes otherwise is very gullible in my opinion.  Climate change has been going on since the beginning of time, Global warming is just a cover up for the crooked politicians to generate funds to be used for their own underlying agendas.

All of this stems from a lack of understanding of what is being stated.   No one ever claimed the world would be gone in 10 years.  The claim is that climate change will reach a point of being irreversible if we continue at the rate we are at for the next 10 years.  That doesn't mean all of the effects will be seen as soon as we reach the point of no return nor has it ever been claimed that the world will be gone at any point. 

The hole in the ozone layer was a real problem and who knows what the situation would have gotten worse had the world not come together and banned CFC's.

So every-time it is actually a lack of understanding that makes things seem inconsistent. 

And when the climate temperature data is blockchained, and all the "Adjustments" to that data can be tracked back to the original raw data through the blockchain...

Then you might want to believe the data is accurate, or some adjustments are questionable, but it all tracks and adds up and is historically accurate.

The Blockchain is very radioactive...

Then I'm immediately on my way to help you figure this thing out.
How about a short lecture on the subject, from yet another forgotten genius from Serbia?
Them Serbs BTW, Tesla and then this fellow... lucky them and lucky we.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles - something to read
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GUcn07enz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztninkgZ0ws - and for the lazy ones 

I'm going to agree with you on the fact that I think we overestimate when it comes to the climate. People think that the world is going to be gone in the next 10 years, then 10 years after that, then 10 years after that, and so on and so forth.

At one point they'll be right.

But the only way to convince people is to truly show them real evidence and then to be RIGHT at some-point.

I don't know who or what to believe at this point.

About time somebody put global warming to use rather than simply complaining about it!


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If this isn't a proof for G.W. being a religion then I don't know what is.
Only through some form of religious beliefs smart people can do irrational things.
One may ask why the idea of cannibalism is completely mind-blowing (pun intended) and irrational?
Today the answer is quite simple but it wasn't just a decade ago, luckily now we know that nature developed interesting mechanism, to prevent self-eating species from ever evolving. We might have been lucky that such ideas came up this day and age.
Prion diseases. For example Creutzfeldt-Jakob syndrome (the mad-cow disease), is caused by prions (super durable cells) hidden in the bone powder, made out of dead cows. It was a common practice to feed cattle with such powder, as an effect, we ended up with zombiefied animals, with foam instead of brains. Same effect (extremely premature Alzheimer) was observed among African cannibals in the early '60. We don't eat other people because it's a sin, we don't do it because is simply not healthy!

Are we living in a dream of a drunk madman? Or maybe this woman really wants to drive humanity in to a trash-can of history?
Either way, she appears to be an adherent of NWO.       

Woman at Ocasio-Cortez town hall demands that everyone “eat the babies” – while AOC nods along.


Go to the site and watch the video.

You mean the other million big rocks?

That's why we are here. What an amazing radioactive paradigm shift Bitcoin is.

O, OK, so it all about the ocean now...
First it was the acid rains - OMG amazon jungle will be poisoned and gone by the year 2000, act now! - Tax 'em
Then was the ozone layer - OMG we all gonna get cancer, atmosphere is to thin! - Tax 'em more
Next it was the warming - OMG we all gonna boil, the atmosphere is to thick! - Tax, Tax, Tax.
And now the oceanic life - OMG we all gona... what this time? Hunker for shrimps?

When will you wake up? It's nothing but a new religion. Technocratic gibberish for the masses to accept new forms of extortions.
I'm not saying it is a bad idea to care about your surroundings. But while you do, don't force ridiculous regulations on people.
Think about this, when was the last time young generations were so, so in favour of governmental actions? When was the last time teenagers where in favour for politicians? It's a precedence due to horribly effective mind control. Don't think about 27K monitored asteroids, on a possible collision course, don't think about those that we can't monitor, do not wonder about supervolcanos and especially forget about nano-plastic in the air and glyphosate, shush.

^^^ It's kinda like melting glaciers. They melt on one end while they are being renewed on the other end.

If the glaciers won't melt any faster, I think I'll move to Belize.

Simple Chemistry.  If you have a glass of ice, the temperature of the ice rises until it reaches its melting point.  At that point, extra heat goes into the phase change but does not raise the temperature until the phase change is complete.  Water is really good at absorbing heat.  

Another noteworthy fact is that water expands when it is heated.  The rises in sea level and changes in ocean salinity come with devastating consequences.

In addition to that, the ocean absorbs CO2 and CO2 that is absorbed into the ocean no longer contributes to heating the atmosphere.  Think about it like a sodastream.  If you increase the pressure of the gas, more of it goes into the water.  Ocean acidification will have devastating effects on marine ecosystems.  


Nowhere in the report does it say "nothing to worry about".  The Earth has ways to compensate for heating.  Those compensations are some of the largest effects of warming the planet.  It was never the earth becoming too warm that we were worried about.  It was always the effects of warming the world by just a few degrees that we were worried about.

-Climate change
-Rising sea levels
-Ocean acidification

Merited!

It has been said, that certain ideas and concepts were radioactive...

Basic radiative physics.

Every time I feel my mind is going to dumb level I come here and learn something new. Hopefully being exposed to this knowledge works the same but in reverse: from fully dumb to half dumb, to... etc, etc..
 

I am sorry  I do not have the time to look up your links today.

But the likely answer is the simple fact that the effect of increased Co2 declines exponentially with each additional unit quantity. So the first doubling over pre industrial levels had the largest effect, the second maybe half of that, the third one quarter, and so forth. Basic radiative physics.

To put this in everyday language, suppose you are in an area where three smoke bombs are set off. Suddenly it's hard to see anything. Ten minutes later another three are set of and ten minutes after that, another three.

It's clear that the first ones have the most effect, once it's hard to see anything it can't get that much harder to see.

poptok1 along with the scientist counter Greta, don't panic!
300 years or us burning stuff, made Erth to worm up a bit - big shocker 
If we continue our way of living, Erth will get warmer +0.3°C, and that's it, look at the official chart below.
Turn off the electricity, stop the production, go full caveman and cool the planet down about 0.3°, or do nothing and enjoy your v8's?
Are they suggesting that the peak of warming has already have happen? I looks to me this way. There is a natural resistance, the wall to the warming. We can't warm the planet beyond a certain point, even if we wanted to. Sure, there are some consequences, AC is a must have basically and few rare bugs will be lost. I like my PC better anyway.   

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Quotations taken from the official IPCC report.
Funny thing is that this is the exact report that this fear mongering girl is citing.
Read it for yourself as she asks... now to think of it, maybe this is her plan all along, to stop this madness by being mad?