Goldman Sachs Entering Bitcoin Trading?

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Quote from: mattimann on October 06, 2017, 04:44:09 PM

I think it´s just a matter of Time.
Remember this: First they laugh at you. Then they try to fight you. And finally they join you. Cool

Exactly. But didn't Goldman Sachs already make some pretty bullish predictions for bitcoin to start with? So they clearly have interest in investing in bitcoin already, and to officially announce it would just be a formality to go through.

It's definitely nice to see that banks are acknowledging bitcoin.

Now with a $70 bil market cap, they can't just ignore it anymore.

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I think it´s just a matter of Time.
Remember this: First they laugh at you. Then they try to fight you. And finally they join you. Cool

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Quote from: mattimann on October 03, 2017, 02:01:04 PM

http://www.n-tv.de/20064180

According to this, Goldman Sachs ist acteivly thinking about it.

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Having the powerhouse of wall street announcing the trading of bitcoin officially is really going to make a huge difference. In as much as he said he is still thinking about does not mean trading has not been going on, however, it shows how much bitcoin is really gaining some grounds and I hope he makes a final decisions soon.

Every smart investor who really wants to make some cash usually look for the best available opportunity and I am sure Blankfein will be making a nice move if he does.

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This article is full of reasons why a Wall Street giant can help in changing the image of Bitcoin and making it mainstream.

But the main reason for this step is mere PROFIT!

These bankers are mere business men. Nobody can deny the profitability of cryptocurrencies in coming future. The early these bankers inherit cryptocurrencies in their system, earlier they'll be able to capture the market. There is a huge inclination of investors towards cryptocurrencies, recently. Market will get bigger soon. Right now entering the amateur market will help them having a better control on the market. Afterall, cryptocurrencies in some way or other threat to these banks at some sectors. Why not reap the benefits?

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Quote from: mattimann on October 03, 2017, 02:01:04 PM

http://www.n-tv.de/20064180

According to this, Goldman Sachs ist acteivly thinking about it. Your thougths Gentleman...? Grin

Hope they will start their involvement with Bitcoin and cryptocurrency soon so that it can be a testament that indeed Bitcoin is here to stay and that we should never listen to that man named Jamie Demon as he has his own agenda in putting down Bitcoin and even his own daughter is not listening to him.

Goldman Sachs is a very big financial institution that its sway or influence in the marketplace can be felt all the time. Once it would finally be into cryptocurrency am sure that other financial firms would also take a good look if they are not missing something. This can help Bitcoin the much needed footing it needs in the marketplace.

Do you think Jamie Demon would soon change his mind on Bitcoin?

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That doesn’t much on affect at all. Everyone is open to trade to bitcoin and even they can hide if they want to. Do you think those bankers just promoting bitcoin for the people to invest in it, not sure if that is the intention. They just want us bitcoiners to trust them again and be a puppet under them.

If they see money it doesn’t meant they trust it but just to control it.

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Quote from: mattimann on October 03, 2017, 02:01:04 PM

http://www.n-tv.de/20064180

According to this, Goldman Sachs ist acteivly thinking about it.

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They probably already trade bitcoin, it's just that they haven't made this public yet.

Once they have made this public and official however, i think that we can expect a price hike. Goldman Sachs has lots of influence over the world's banking system and for them to show interest in bitcoin is a huge step for btc.

Anyhow, volume for bitcoin trading is still consistently above $1 billion per day.

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Quote from: Denker on October 04, 2017, 03:49:41 AM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 04, 2017, 01:39:44 AM

I believe they had a party and saw it as an opportunity when Jaimie Dimon released his statement about him and JP Morgan's unfavorable stance on Bitcoin.

Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are untapped markets that can be used by banks to gain advantage over their competitors. It will not be surprising if JP Morgan retracts from Dimon's statement and starts investing in it.

They may already be invested in Bitcoin since a while.
As they are also having a big stake in Circle I would really surprised if that is not the case.
If they should indeed officially enter the market now with trading bitcoin, to me that means this all was prepared some while ago.

You mean Goldman Sachs? Absolutely! I believe their executives see the future potential, not just as a source of investment profit but also of the technology. Once the network scales through the Lightning Network, Goldman Sachs and others should augment their products and service offerings with Bitcoin related services.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on October 03, 2017, 06:02:37 PM

If I'm not mistaken since before his giving his thoughts and speculations about the bitcoin market his already into it. But this is just going to give him a public statement that he's now officially into bitcoin trading. Let's see on how will the market react on these news coming from him, I hope that this will give a positive movement to the charts for this week.

With the incoming bitcoin fork work weeks from now, many people now are putting back their funds back to bitcoin so that they can have a share of bitcoin gold too thus there is a decreasing price in bitcoin after it recovers from its downfall in the previous weeks. I hope that this news can bring positive impact to the bitcoin price but if not then it's all good because as what we see in the previous fork, price went down as well in July and reach again new all time high after the fork so maybe history will repeat itself after the fork this month. Though it may not affect the price that much but still it can help to increase the volume since many trader-investors trust Goldman Sachs I believe.

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They can come in, why not? A bank releasing some investment based in bitcoins. But they should make it official, so other banks might join in, to not lose the train.

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This is Bitcoin mate, anyone is free to enter at any time and leave. thanks to the limited supply even if 1000 Goldman enters Bitcoin trading they will

Not be able to take everything from people like they did with their banks, what this means is more cash in and less coins out. Bitcoin price will rise

And only if you hold your coins you will get to have a part in the game of grownups.

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Quote from: mattimann on October 03, 2017, 02:01:04 PM

http://www.n-tv.de/20064180

According to this, Goldman Sachs ist acteivly thinking about it.

Your thougths Gentleman...? Grin

Yes, Goldman sachs are planning to start trading bitcoin on their platform

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Quote from: alyssa85 on October 04, 2017, 06:27:54 AM

Quote from: gentlemand on October 03, 2017, 05:24:42 PM

Trading how? The key is what they can offer to investors. If it's accredited investors only or they don't provide any vehicles via the usual channels then it's still very interesting but won't have as much effect as it could have.

They can do proprietary trading - that is, trading using their own funds rather than on behalf of customers. The big question is how much money they are willing to invest - they have a lot of funds and could quickly overwhelmn the crypto space by themselves.

I doubt they will risk much of their own funds to trade. Bank's entire business is to get money that is in client's accounts and then screw around with it, which is why I never liked the idea of having tons of money on banks (if I had tons of money, im poor so who cares). But if I ever got rich, I would never have more than 50k on a single account, I've seen too much shit lately.

And I also don't like a culture of making bitcoin a bank product that clueless people can go and buy. Sure it will help pump the price a lot, but im not sure if it's a good idea. Ultimately the clients are trusting their private keys into the banks and once again it would solve nothing if the bank goes wrong.

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Quote from: gentlemand on October 03, 2017, 05:24:42 PM

Trading how? The key is what they can offer to investors. If it's accredited investors only or they don't provide any vehicles via the usual channels then it's still very interesting but won't have as much effect as it could have.

They can do proprietary trading - that is, trading using their own funds rather than on behalf of customers. The big question is how much money they are willing to invest - they have a lot of funds and could quickly overwhelmn the crypto space by themselves.

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Quote from: mattimann on October 03, 2017, 02:01:04 PM

http://www.n-tv.de/20064180

According to this, Goldman Sachs ist acteivly thinking about it.

Your thougths Gentleman...? Grin

The news seems to be true since there are other sources publishing the same thing and is coming from credible sources. This would really contribute to bitcoin adoption if his presence in btc investments will gather more other people to invest and do bitcoin trading too. Market would be more profitable if this happens so I hope him investing here would somehow have a good impact with bitcoin.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 04, 2017, 01:39:44 AM

I believe they had a party and saw it as an opportunity when Jaimie Dimon released his statement about him and JP Morgan's unfavorable stance on Bitcoin.

Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are untapped markets that can be used by banks to gain advantage over their competitors. It will not be surprising if JP Morgan retracts from Dimon's statement and starts investing in it.

They may already be invested in Bitcoin since a while.
As they are also having a big stake in Circle I would really surprised if that is not the case.
If they should indeed officially enter the market now with trading bitcoin, to me that means this all was prepared some while ago.

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Quote from: Herbert2020 on October 04, 2017, 02:09:11 AM

i remember at least for the past 3-4 months Goldman Sachs has been releasing articles analyzing bitcoin and giving speculations (which were surprisingly good too). and they have most probably been trading bitcoin a long time before that too.
everybody knows how profitable bitcoin has been. and from time to time the market becomes so predictable that it would be a crime not to trade Cheesy

They have their own technical analyst in bitcoin market, Sheba Jafari who is really good a predicting the price.

https://www.coindesk.com/4800-goldman-sachs-analyst-thinks-bitcoin-price-heading-higher/

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Jafari predicted, the price could climb to as much as $4,827. But she went on to caution that the market could correct, sending the price tumbling below $3,000.

This prediction is in August prior to the Sept negative news coming from China. And it looks like she is right on target.

Yeah, I agree they have been trading way back because there have been articles going around just like I posted above. I think they are still weighing their options here. But have been brokered several transactions in behalf of their clients months ago. This will just make it official though.

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i remember at least for the past 3-4 months Goldman Sachs has been releasing articles analyzing bitcoin and giving speculations (which were surprisingly good too). and they have most probably been trading bitcoin a long time before that too.
everybody knows how profitable bitcoin has been. and from time to time the market becomes so predictable that it would be a crime not to trade Cheesy

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I believe they had a party and saw it as an opportunity when Jaimie Dimon released his statement about him and JP Morgan's unfavorable stance on Bitcoin.

Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are untapped markets that can be used by banks to gain advantage over their competitors. It will not be surprising if JP Morgan retracts from Dimon's statement and starts investing in it.

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I think this is what we need currently, we need more billionaires to invest into bitcoin in other to stimulate serious upward movement. Goldman Sachs is one of the serious investor, I always admired him and hope he pump over 10% of his involvement into bitcoin and others coins. This is a sign that bitcoin is not a fraud as said by Jamie.

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i think goldman sachs has interest in bitcoin 2014-2015 maybe now just officially.

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Quote from: mattimann on October 03, 2017, 02:01:04 PM

http://www.n-tv.de/20064180

According to this, Goldman Sachs ist acteivly thinking about it.

Your thougths Gentleman...? Grin

If it does happen then i wouldn't be surprised at all that they took a couple of long positions and pumped the bitcoin price right up. They are probably one of the first institution investors to enter the bitcoin market even though it's been around for 8 or 9 years now, and that is going to cause quite a hype.

They've actually shown interest in bitcoin quite early on, they've made predictions and seems to have an analyst working for them that is focusing on bitcoin.

Hopefulyl they do, since it is an absolute hell of an opportunity.

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Quote from: Torque on October 03, 2017, 02:24:50 PM

They are already trading it. This would just make it official.

Source? They released a couple analyses with price predictions, but I don't see any evidence that they've been trading it. LedgerX is the first historical milestone for institutional investment under the US regulatory regime.

Futures contracts regulated by the CFTC and a Bitcoin ETF are what institutions have been waiting for. GBTC, the pink sheet, by contrast, is not seen as a trustworthy investment vehicle by mainstream investors. I've heard that Wall Street doesn't think very highly of Mr. Shillbert.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on October 03, 2017, 06:21:05 PM

I no longer know what to make of news stories, which ones are bull crap and which are true

This ones looks quite true - the CEO of a big bank for once is not giving crap to BC, infact, seems to hint there at the possibility it might be the future
https://twitter.com/lloydblankfein/status/915277671831044098

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Yes i agree, they have been trading with bitcoins for a lot of time, this is nothing new, a lot of financial companys were already trading with bitcoins or just another cryptocurrencies, only that most of them did not make it official. Looks like this is going to be one of the first who do it.
Anyway, if this is real, then the marketcap of bitcoin is going to rise a lot for sure.

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Quote from: gentlemand on October 03, 2017, 05:24:42 PM

Trading how? The key is what they can offer to investors. If it's accredited investors only or they don't provide any vehicles via the usual channels then it's still very interesting but won't have as much effect as it could have.

Right. I think GS and other investment banks trade mostly on their clients' accounts--not their own.

I no longer know what to make of news stories, which ones are bull crap and which are true, and I have seemingly lost the ability to discern the importance of stories. This Goldman story could be insignificant. In fact, I'm not shocked in the least that they and other banks are buying bitcoin, either for customers or themselves. It's one of the hottest assets out there at present. Who wouldn't want a piece of this market, and especially when they have billions of dollars to play with! They could easily manipulate bitcoin to their advantage.

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If I'm not mistaken since before his giving his thoughts and speculations about the bitcoin market his already into it. But this is just going to give him a public statement that he's now officially into bitcoin trading. Let's see on how will the market react on these news coming from him, I hope that this will give a positive movement to the charts for this week.

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Quote from: KAKACH on October 03, 2017, 02:09:37 PM

When it will start, it will be so huge !

Massive flow of fresh money entering in crypto by the bitcoin door.

https://techcentral.co.za/goldman-sachs-may-open-bitcoin-trading-desk/77309/

That will become the trend topic in the future, huge money flow to the crypto and as the early adopters we can take a lot of the advantage from there. It seems to be the future news to pump the bitcoin's price.

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Trading how? The key is what they can offer to investors. If it's accredited investors only or they don't provide any vehicles via the usual channels then it's still very interesting but won't have as much effect as it could have.

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https://techcentral.co.za/goldman-sachs-may-open-bitcoin-trading-desk/77309/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/naeemaslam/2017/10/03/goldman-sachs-bitcoin-desk-would-attract-mega-funds/#5be784733fa1

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-02/goldman-sachs-said-to-explore-starting-bitcoin-trading-venture

https://www.wsj.com/articles/goldman-sachs-explores-a-new-world-trading-bitcoin-1506959128

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They are already trading it. This would just make it official.

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It would bei huge.

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When it will start, it will be so huge !

Massive flow of fresh money entering in crypto by the bitcoin door.

https://techcentral.co.za/goldman-sachs-may-open-bitcoin-trading-desk/77309/

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http://www.n-tv.de/20064180

According to this, Goldman Sachs ist acteivly thinking about it.

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