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Quote from: LoyceV on February 28, 2021, 12:22:00 PM

I disagree. Especially on technical subjects, it's bad to leave incorrect information. And that's why I sometimes strike out part of a post: it makes it obvious it was wrong.

The part of my post that you quoted should also go hand in hand with this one:

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Edit your original post and add that you were wrong. Mention that member X corrected you and taught you what mistakes you did. Don't be ashamed of admitting that you are wrong and that someone else knows better.

I am not suggesting leaving the wrong information there. I am also for editing it, but not deleting it and trying to covering your tracks somehow.

An example:

The topic of discussion is bitcoin's privacy and anonymity. A user asks if bitcoin is anonymous.
User A replies: Yes, bitcoin is an anonymous coin.

User B says: Bitcoin is only semi-anonymous. Your real name and private information isn't printed into the ledger and is not directly connected to the address you use, but if you connect that address to an exchange that has your real name, or other addresses which might lead back to you, it's possible to follow the money and perhaps discover your name.

User A was wrong in saying that bitcoin is anonymous. But he was partially right as well because your name, address, location, photograph, etc. isn't recorded on the blockchain. When users C and D read the thread, I think it gives them a more clearer picture to leave the reply of User A as well. They will be able to learn that bitcoin is anonymous, but not in the way that many people think it is.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on February 28, 2021, 03:16:47 PM

Right, but do we still need to add a description of the reason for the edit?

That's optional, although some forums actually do have a dedicated field for such (as a mod addon).

Usually once the mistake is made, the original post is quoted and if willing, the poster will either apologize or edit the previous post.

If someone is interested in a topic, surely he or she is willing to read all the way to the bottom

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on February 27, 2021, 11:48:00 PM

Editing is the best way to do. But sometime if you found your post irrelevant to the topic and moderators didn't noticed that you can totally deleted it it's your decision anyway but not advisable. Better before posting make sure you are knowledgeable about it so you won't confuse yourself for having a mistake.

Editing is when you make typos or incorrect information and need to correct them.

If the all content in the post is irrelevant, unnecessary because you ignore the red warning before you click on Post, it is the best to delete your post. As posts above yours are completely answer question of OP.

Three ways to resolve your posts but which one to use depends on how you make your post initially and what the posts of others answer OP question.
- Delete it
- Edit it (by deleting incorrect information, and edit it or add some additional information)
- Edit it (by strike out the incorrect information).

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on February 28, 2021, 03:16:47 PM

Quote from: Stalker22 on February 28, 2021, 02:35:16 PM

Many visitors find information via Google or other routes, and some posts give misleading information and should be corrected, so it is good practice to edit or to strike out such misinformation when someone points to it.

Right, but do we still need to add a description of the reason for the edit?

I don't know if there's a common rule about that. Probably depends on the situation.
Personally, sometimes I put an 'EDIT' note and sometimes I just strike out part of the post that I'm replacing.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on February 27, 2021, 06:31:50 PM

If some of the posts contain the misinformation, I can just strike the wrong part out. But in this case can I just edit it without need to strike it out but erase it completely?

Also if all contents in the post are wrong, should it be left not deleted or deleted for people not to read it at all?

It has happened to me at least once (some months ago) I've misread a post, hence my "answer" was completely off.
Of course, I've noticed that when the next answer came. I realized my mistake, but nothing useful could be added there, hence I've removed mine.

It has happened to me at least once that I've answered after another answer, but mine was the correct or complete one; then the previous poster has edited and completed his post, rendering mine useless.

Of course, when I make mistakes I edit my posts, but I want to point out that sometimes deleting can be better option than editing. It also matters a lot how is that editing done/handled.

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I agree with LoyceV's statement, wrong information will mislead other users who want to find accurate information, especially regarding technical information. So I have to agree that the OP only need to edit the post to make it relevant to the question or discussion that is being discussed and maybe there's no need to delete it.

Quote from: Stalker22 on February 28, 2021, 02:35:16 PM

Many visitors find information via Google or other routes, and some posts give misleading information and should be corrected, so it is good practice to edit or to strike out such misinformation when someone points to it.

Right, but do we still need to add a description of the reason for the edit?

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Quote from: LoyceV on February 28, 2021, 12:22:00 PM

Quote from: Pmalek on February 28, 2021, 11:12:47 AM

Even if you made a post that contains wrong information, I would say leave it. You will probably not be the first nor the last user who made such a mistake. Other members might think the same way like you did about a specific problem. When someone corrects you, the thread will have great examples of what is wrong and what is correct, and an explanation of why a certain post/opinion is wrong.

I disagree. Especially on technical subjects, it's bad to leave incorrect information. And that's why I sometimes strike out part of a post: it makes it obvious it was wrong.
I just sent a PM to a user for a mistake made 2 years ago. It's good now.

That's a good point. I also advocate the editing of incorrect information on the forum. Many visitors find information via Google or other routes, and some posts give misleading information and should be corrected, so it is good practice to edit or to strike out such misinformation when someone points to it.

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Quote from: Pmalek on February 28, 2021, 11:12:47 AM

Even if you made a post that contains wrong information, I would say leave it. You will probably not be the first nor the last user who made such a mistake. Other members might think the same way like you did about a specific problem. When someone corrects you, the thread will have great examples of what is wrong and what is correct, and an explanation of why a certain post/opinion is wrong.

I disagree. Especially on technical subjects, it's bad to leave incorrect information. And that's why I sometimes strike out part of a post: it makes it obvious it was wrong.
I just sent a PM to a user for a mistake made 2 years ago. It's good now.

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Well its a forum after all so you have a chance to correct him by quoting his post and then replying what you think is wrong on what he is saying and I think that is a better solution then completely removing the delete option for the post. If you are worried about these types of posts with misinformation being deleted you have 2 choices one is what I said earlier which is quoting the post and then replying to it and the other is archiving the post through any archiving websites available for you and maybe compile it so you will be able to have a record if this user is habitually spreading misinformation here in the forum which I think isn't allowed in the forum as it counts as trolling.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on February 27, 2021, 06:31:50 PM

I have noticed some people will strike out a particular misinformation on their post while some people will remove it entirely in a way no one can see it again.

Bitcointalk forum members run various scrappers nowadays which catch any post that was made within a couple of seconds. Deleting a post thinking it can no longer be found doesn't work anymore.

Quote from: Oshosondy on February 27, 2021, 06:31:50 PM

But in this case can I just edit it without need to strike it out but erase it completely?

Even if you made a post that contains wrong information, I would say leave it. You will probably not be the first nor the last user who made such a mistake. Other members might think the same way like you did about a specific problem. When someone corrects you, the thread will have great examples of what is wrong and what is correct, and an explanation of why a certain post/opinion is wrong.

Quote from: Oshosondy on February 27, 2021, 06:31:50 PM

Also if all contents in the post are wrong, should it be left not deleted or deleted for people not to read it at all?

Edit your original post and add that you were wrong. Mention that member X corrected you and taught you what mistakes you did. Don't be ashamed of admitting that you are wrong and that someone else knows better.

Quote from: FIFA worldcup on February 27, 2021, 09:36:11 PM

However, if you want to be on safe side, its better to quote the post and then reply to it. In this situation if the owner of the post changes or delete the post, your post will not be considered irrelevant because you have quoted it and replied to it.

That depends. If the post you quoted gets deleted by admins, any post quoting the deleted post will also be deleted. If someone notices a post that is quoting a non-existing post or one that is irrelevant, they might report it, and admins could delete the post for being off-topic.

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There are some boards that you can't delete your post, AFAIK, the service section.

If you feel that your post was irrelevant and there's someone who had already posted the same idea as yours, you are free to edit it and put the word "EDITED" so that they will know that your post was edited. That's why I always advise hitting first the "Preview" button before you tend to hit the "Post" button because when while you're typing and there's someone else who had posted already, you will see a notification and that's a right time to check your post if it is already given.

Remember that every time you will delete your post it will mark in your account profile on Bpip.org the number that you'd deleted and the number of posts that deleted by the MODs and if that is edited, you can also check on the LoyceV's archives that mentioned above.

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At the end of the day this is a public forum where random people discuss about this so we should never expect all the information posted are accurate. If you found some part of your post is wrong after someone notifies in your below posts then I will just stick with strike because it can serve to people who are thinking in a way like yours so it can be helpful too and also in come cases we need to delete it completely because we are completely wrong on that case.

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People who deletes their post within some minutes it's does not mean the post can't recover, so deleting post is not really bad because I find out that one of the criteria while people do such is because of dropping a post to the wrong board, which may be result of the user don't know that topic can be moved from one board to another...so deleting a post base on negative or positive occurrence does not grants that the post can not be find any longer, I know vividly that their is archiver boot created here that captured every post irrespective the delete.

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Perhaps the OP was outraged by the recent history of a SmokerFace user who periodically deleted and re-inserted his messages. This is of course an egregious case of a violation that should not take place. I also remember the story when the user edited the topic titles. Thus, it turned out that people wrote about completely different things. This is, of course, a scam.
But in other cases, when someone decides to delete their messages, I believe that this is purely his own business. The archives from LoyceV are all very well preserved. And if there is any dispute about a written and deleted message, I think you can always raise the archive.
It would also be very good practice to delete your own bounty companies' reports. If each bounty hunter took part in clearing the forum from such kinds of posts, the forum would become much cleaner.

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I think deleting is not the proper solution when you find your post is wrong. A striking out along with an edit below of why you are striking out your information should be written so that people would know what actually the true information is and what actually influenced the modification of one's post which they deleted or have done striking out. If someone deletes their post just because they have wrong info, I think that will lead to more confusion as someone else might have saved that post as reference so when they see that post is deleted or gone completely, they will still remain in darkness as they won't know why it was deleted instead of a direct clarification for the modification.

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there are several situations where the person may choose to strike or may choose to delete the post, these two options will depend on the situation.

for example:

if you make a post in the technical discussion on a very important subject and your post is wrong, it will be better that you delete it

If you make a signature application post where you can only delete after 24h then you can strike and after 24 hours you can delete

you can use the option that suits you, as long as you don't break the forum rules

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Editing is the best way to do. But sometime if you found your post irrelevant to the topic and moderators didn't noticed that you can totally deleted it it's your decision anyway but not advisable. Better before posting make sure you are knowledgeable about it so you won't confuse yourself for having a mistake.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on February 27, 2021, 06:31:50 PM

I do feel like I cheat if I posted already and another user posted under my post which make my post irrelevant, I think at times that if I delete the post that I cheat, that it ought not to be like that, but also sometimes it can lead to misinformation if it is not deleted. What do you suggest:

I do not think it's cheating at all. If the user who posted under you was only replying to the OP and did not address your post (or quote it), then it doesn't affect then if you delete or edit yours; but editing your post based off a new reply after yours without crediting the user for the assistance is somewhat unethical.
For example, someone asked about the average block confirmation time;
• You wrote 2 minutes, and someone below you commented ten minutes,
• If you edit your post to ten minutes without crediting them, it looks like they posted a reply even though the issue had already been solved.
• Best to edit with a strike through and a message about "user x giving the right answer)

Quote from: Oshosondy on February 27, 2021, 06:31:50 PM

Also if all contents in the post are wrong, should it be left not deleted or deleted for people not to read it at all?

I'll suggest they get edited or deleted. Users can use keywords while searching for solutions and come across the inaccurate post.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on February 27, 2021, 06:31:50 PM

I do feel like I cheat if I posted already and another user posted under my post which make my post irrelevant, I think at times that if I delete the post that I cheat, that it ought not to be like that, but also sometimes it can lead to misinformation if it is not deleted. What do you suggest:

You will receive notification when you click on Post if in the meantime when you are writing down your post, someone else published their posts earlier than you.

If you are serious about this:
- Don't ignore the notification and click on Post again to release yours.
- Instead, copy and paste your prepared posts into notepad, word, etc.
- Go back to the topic to see what the others discussed and reconsider that your post is still necessary or unnecessary.
- If it is necessary, copy and paste your prepared post and release it eventually.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on February 27, 2021, 06:31:50 PM

while some people will remove it entirely in a way no one can see it again.

This instance actually depends on the thread or user's circumstances. It could be that the thread have been moved to an Off-topic section which is quite often to happen leading for the user to delete his/her post because it does not qualify towards the signature campaign requirement. Or perhaps, there is something in that particular post that could possibly reveal a hint for using multiple alt account in a campaign or any other events the prohibits the use of multiple account.

Quote from: Oshosondy on February 27, 2021, 06:31:50 PM

Also if all contents in the post are wrong, should it be left not deleted or deleted for people not to read it at all?

Why don't you just put an edit note after you have corrected your post instead of deleting them entirely. Edit based on relevant facts and make some notes below it that tells the reason why you edit your post in the first place. With that being said, you should not be guilty about cheating nor spreading misinformation.

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There is no hard and fast rule that the post should be deleted / edited or strike out. Anyone is free to do whatever he/she likes with his post.

However, if you want to be on safe side, its better to quote the post and then reply to it. In this situation if the owner of the post changes or delete the post, your post will not be considered irrelevant because you have quoted it and replied to it.

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I have noticed some people will strike out a particular misinformation on their post while some people will remove it entirely in a way no one can see it again. Also I noticed some posts that you will see in five minutes ago will be deleted, I believe some of the deleted posts are not from moderators but from account owners. There are some things that do pop up to my mind.

I do feel like I cheat if I posted already and another user posted under my post which make my post irrelevant, I think at times that if I delete the post that I cheat, that it ought not to be like that, but also sometimes it can lead to misinformation if it is not deleted. What do you suggest:

If some of the posts contain the misinformation, I can just strike the wrong part out. But in this case can I just edit it without need to strike it out but erase it completely?

Also if all contents in the post are wrong, should it be left not deleted or deleted for people not to read it at all?

Note: Quoted posts are not included and they should not be deleted and if corrected, the misinformation should be striked out.

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