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Quote from: dannymcdip on August 23, 2020, 07:27:24 AM

ReCaptcha is an absolute pain in the ass for tor users.. Really hoping bitcointalk switches to hcaptcha soon. If cloudflare can do it, btctalk can too

I know the pain you are going through brother
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Tor makes you do 20 puzzles then says sorry we can't decide if you are real or not, even if you get then all correct. Or too many attempts from your IP today.

Lately it also has only been giving the skip button when it's not even a skip solution for the correct answer.
It was okay when you were getting 50 x 30 bucks for solving each one on rai blocks now it's just a pita.

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ReCaptcha is an absolute pain in the ass for tor users.. Really hoping bitcointalk switches to hcaptcha soon. If cloudflare can do it, btctalk can too

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Quote from: libert19 on April 19, 2020, 12:03:57 AM

Bitcointalk should use geetest captcha like binance, it's much less annoying.

All kinds of captcha are annoying especially the one where you have to write an essay. Google recaptcha still allows you to bypass it some time by identifying the IP address. If you use VPN then these captcha can make your life miserable.

Geetest captcha just requires to drag the slider.

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Quote from: libert19 on April 19, 2020, 12:03:57 AM

Bitcointalk should use geetest captcha like binance, it's much less annoying.

All kinds of captcha are annoying especially the one where you have to write an essay. Google recaptcha still allows you to bypass it some time by identifying the IP address. If you use VPN then these captcha can make your life miserable.

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Google sucks and Google reCaptcha also sucks.
Recently cloudflare switched to hCaptcha that is blockchain based, and I found it works better.
Also Google is spying everyone, so no need to help them so much everyday...
Their AI will also survive without our free help Undecided

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and while this is still a pima.. I shall note that out of this forum, Google reCaptcha is behaving like a retard. Even though it's validated me multiple times, it keeps checking each time I visit Google search.. might be using a vpn but still, why keep checking.. not extraordinarily bot like searches either. Stupid Google is stupid.. but try telling it that!

I wonder this is a problem that will become more common with computers and their masters, thinking they are clever.

The fate of all companies is to become dull?.. perhaps that's why most companies don't last into another generation of staff and stagnate.

Really should switch to Duck Duck or another. Undecided

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Google recaptcha definitely sucks, but i found out my continues logged in is still active I don't log out since it's only me making use of my mobile device I really can't withstand the stress of Google recaptcha. Please I will like this recaptcha to be replaced with something else.

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on April 25, 2020, 02:56:45 PM

I personally think hCaptcha is even worse to solve. At least reCAPTCHA gives you easily identifiable images, while hCaptcha has given me very vague photos and has taken me quite a bit longer to solve. The one thing I like about hCaptcha is that it supports Privacy Pass by default, so solving one captcha allows you to skip the next 5.

Can't agree more. They tend to stuff up to 8 target images you have to click on, then throw in another test just for extra measure.

It's so much easier with reCAPTCHA.

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on April 25, 2020, 02:56:45 PM

I personally think hCaptcha is even worse to solve. At least reCAPTCHA gives you easily identifiable images, while hCaptcha has given me very vague photos and has taken me quite a bit longer to solve. The one thing I like about hCaptcha is that it supports Privacy Pass by default, so solving one captcha allows you to skip the next 5.

I don't know that if we don't visit that page https://bitcointalk.org/captcha_code.php, my captcha bypass code is still automatically be there or it is only activated and displayed after I visiting that page. If it is always there no matter we visit that page or not, I think using that code to bypass captcha is good. Only have to secure it well and if something wrong with computer, such as virus detected we should reset the code.

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Quote from: Lucius on April 19, 2020, 04:55:10 AM

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Maybe theymos should consider hCaptcha since CloudFlare already move from reCAPTCHA to hCaptcha.

I suggested the same captcha back in 2019, but I didn't get any response from admin, which means that (at least then) he didn't consider it an acceptable solution.

It's been a year and hCaptcha now used by Cloudflare (coincidentally, this forum also use Cloudflare), so it's possible theymos consider it as alternative (at least if reCAPTCHA become more annoying or no longer free) now.

I personally think hCaptcha is even worse to solve. At least reCAPTCHA gives you easily identifiable images, while hCaptcha has given me very vague photos and has taken me quite a bit longer to solve. The one thing I like about hCaptcha is that it supports Privacy Pass by default, so solving one captcha allows you to skip the next 5.

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Quote from: 20kevin20 on April 20, 2020, 09:16:58 AM

I just wanted to say THANK YOU! Damn it, I've been having issues with the shitty Google Captcha for months and had no idea this existed!

Google's captcha thingy gets annoying at one point, especially if you're using browsers set up to delete any history, cache etc upon exit. I honestly thought there was no way around it. Is this link under the login form? I've never seen it before..

You're welcome.

Nope, I don't know where to see this link either except on the thread where theymos introduces this thing way back 2018 here Captcha bypass

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Quote from: bL4nkcode on April 18, 2020, 10:38:55 AM

You can go here to bypass google captcha https://bitcointalk.org/captcha_code.php

Just make sure you don't share the login link to anyone for security reason

I just wanted to say THANK YOU! Damn it, I've been having issues with the shitty Google Captcha for months and had no idea this existed!

Google's captcha thingy gets annoying at one point, especially if you're using browsers set up to delete any history, cache etc upon exit. I honestly thought there was no way around it. Is this link under the login form? I've never seen it before..

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 19, 2020, 06:17:40 AM

OP, Have you encountered like this? Tongue

LOL.. too many times.

I do wonder how those with poor eyesight manage..

I also have a poor eyesight but it's not a problem to me. Don't sweat it mate, in that case you can just click those 4 tiles an ignore the excess. If ever there's another one given to you then just answer it more accurately and you're in

. If it reaaly annoys you, don't forget to click the "Always logged in" button to avoid this interruptions once and for all. Also, avoid clearing the data of your browser.

Relate to this Grin

sometimes this happened but you don't know if you're going to include the excess part in the picture.

But sometimes 4 blocks is enough already work for the captcha, I guess the traffic signal photo is the one who always has this thing.

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It's been a year and hCaptcha now used by Cloudflare (coincidentally, this forum also use Cloudflare), so it's possible theymos consider it as alternative (at least if reCAPTCHA become more annoying or no longer free) now.

I've had a lot of trouble with reCAPTCHA in the past, but this was due to the faucets (too much solved captchas), so they block me as bot. I write few e-mails to their support and after that in most cases, I don't even need to solve captcha. I also noticed that it can help if a user is logged in with a Google service (Gmail), although some reported the exact opposite.

It's quite a different matter if someone uses a VPN or TOR because every captcha service detects it as malicious behavior.

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The more reCAPTCHAs you fill out (even if you do so successfully), the more suspicious you are to Google, the harder the captcha gets (up until you get secretly marked as a bot). Also, chances are that wasn't v3.

There's a way for the v2 to be implemented that it isn't even shown if no action is required from the user's end (the equivalent of clicking on it and the check mark immediately popping up). v3 silently collects behavioral data in the background, gives the website a score of how likely it is that you're a bot and then the website decides what it wants to do (deny an action, require manual review of said action, serve you up with a reCAPTCHA v2, etc.). I assume v2 also collects behavioral data though probably much less (since Google recommends you put the v3 on every page so that it could "get a feel" for how a regular visitor on your site behaves).

That kinda sucks, since the sites I frequent on have to implement this. Definitely V2 like you said; the V3 I mentioned earlier was aimed at ChuckBuck's statement on not going through the verification process.

You're correct. V3 is more intrusive than V2 in behavioral analysis, that's why Cloudflare eventually transitioned to hCAPTCHA.

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Quote from: davidpbrown on April 19, 2020, 02:48:58 PM

LOL.. too many times.

I do wonder how those with poor eyesight manage.. it's the being reasonably on a vpn and being treated as blacklisted.. perpetual frustration and to be expected just proving some dull AI that will then come to haunt us later.. feeding the enemy Undecided

Google reCaptcha expects you to not select slightly matching images, because it classifies that as bot behavior.

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Quote from: davidpbrown on April 19, 2020, 02:48:58 PM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 19, 2020, 06:17:40 AM

OP, Have you encountered like this? Tongue

LOL.. too many times.

I do wonder how those with poor eyesight manage..

I also have a poor eyesight but it's not a problem to me. Don't sweat it mate, in that case you can just click those 4 tiles an ignore the excess. If ever there's another one given to you then just answer it more accurately and you're in

. If it reaaly annoys you, don't forget to click the "Always logged in" button to avoid this interruptions once and for all. Also, avoid clearing the data of your browser.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 19, 2020, 06:17:40 AM

OP, Have you encountered like this? Tongue

LOL.. too many times.

I do wonder how those with poor eyesight manage.. it's the being reasonably on a vpn and being treated as blacklisted.. perpetual frustration and to be expected just proving some dull AI that will then come to haunt us later.. feeding the enemy Undecided

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AFAIK that's intentional. If reCAPTCHA has deemed you (with extremely high likelihood) to be a bot, it'll pretend that you still have a chance while auto-failing any of your attempts. The website you were the trying to solve the captcha in might've also selected the more strict security setting when setting up their reCAPTCHA integration.

I also have encountered cases where if you go through several attempts at completing the captcha (which you know you've done perfectly, yet they "failed"), it'll let you through.

While you're here, do you happen to know if both of these are the same case for hCaptcha? Now that Cloudflare moved their verification system to it, it will be useful for me to know next time I get served with an hCaptcha challenge.

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Quote from: Chikito on April 19, 2020, 07:34:11 AM

this something like a bug or some one use autorefresh tool to keep online. any reason, bitcointalk statistic isn't updating along time ago, Administrator disabled it. you can see forum history last update is December 2017, same time theymos posting https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.26277509

Thank you for this useful information Wink

Quote from: UserU on April 19, 2020, 08:49:31 AM

It's actually tied to your Google account tho. The moment you logout or go incognito, it functions normally.

Really? I did not experience that with my Google account. I never log in to my Google account on strange browsers (game center), it can be a hassle. I have the above problem when I am using anonymity, this may affect because of another factor, i dont know. For my Google account, it has always been alright from the start, now, I don't even need to go through the verification process, just 1 click to get it Grin

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on April 19, 2020, 06:49:46 AM

According to your description, the images will appear forever even though I have chosen them correctly. I experienced it a few years ago, almost five years ago when I was accessing the internet at a game center. It never stops, even if I choose right but it still reports wrong. Definitely I am on their blacklist Cheesy

(that game center)

It's actually tied to your Google account tho. The moment you logout or go incognito, it functions normally.

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Quote from: theymos on October 03, 2018, 10:12:15 PM

The main reason why the log in captcha is necessary at all is that whenever some site's username/password database is leaked anywhere on the Internet, hackers would come and try all of those logins here, grabbing a few accounts from people who shared passwords, and sometimes slowing down the forum from the rapid barrage of login attempts. These codes are sufficient for preventing that on any large scale. For individual users, the main thing is to not share passwords, not even with minor variations between sites.

Quote from: mindrust on April 19, 2020, 02:24:27 AM

I am not even sure if it works against all botters though. They probably found a way to bypass it too already.

2captcha tool can bypass Recaptcha

Quote from: ChuckBuck on April 19, 2020, 06:24:28 AM

LoL

It is more than 21 years, meaning that these accounts have always been active on this forum since this forum started operations Shocked

Is it possible if a user logs in by clicking on the "always stay logged in" box? I don't understand how they keep a bot running for 21 years, I also don't understand how a person can stay on the forum for so long. Really curious Shocked

this something like a bug or some one use autorefresh tool to keep online. any reason, bitcointalk statistic isn't updating along time ago, Administrator disabled it. you can see forum history last update is December 2017, same time theymos posting https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.26277509

this many time discuss here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-forum-stats-are-wrong-theymos-check-it-outplease-5179823
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-it-a-bug-3173586

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Quote from: UserU on April 19, 2020, 06:06:40 AM

Have you ever experience being blacklisted by reCAPTCHA?
It's a nightmare when the images just take forever to load and they immediately fail you even after submitting the correct results.

According to your description, the images will appear forever even though I have chosen them correctly. I experienced it a few years ago, almost five years ago when I was accessing the internet at a game center. It never stops, even if I choose right but it still reports wrong. Definitely I am on their blacklist Cheesy

(that game center)

Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 19, 2020, 06:32:51 AM

From what I observe, the maximum of "always stay logged in" is 3153600 minutes, so it's mean 2190 days only. Hmm Roll Eyes

You can try also, before log in... click the always stay logged in and type wrong password or username

I tried, it's like what you put out. So bot is the most accurate solution. But how can they maintain the bot for 21 years, and what is the purpose? There are many people with equivalent login time Roll Eyes

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on April 19, 2020, 06:24:28 AM

-snip-

From what I observe, the maximum of "always stay logged in" is 3153600 minutes, so it's mean 2190 days only. Hmm Roll Eyes

You can try also, before log in... click the always stay logged in and type wrong password or username

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 19, 2020, 06:17:40 AM

I think you're right, I reminded about the Most time online in this forum. It's insane to stay in this forum for 7765 days. I'm not believe if they're human, probably a bot

LoL

It is more than 21 years, meaning that these accounts have always been active on this forum since this forum started operations Shocked

Is it possible if a user logs in by clicking on the "always stay logged in" box? I don't understand how they keep a bot running for 21 years, I also don't understand how a person can stay on the forum so long. Really curious Shocked

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Quote from: mindrust on April 19, 2020, 02:24:27 AM

They probably found a way to bypass it too already.

I think you're right, I reminded about the Most time online in this forum. It's insane to stay in this forum for 7765 days. I'm not believe if they're human, probably a bot

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats

OP, Have you encountered like this? Tongue

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Its annoying as I'm not a huge fan of Googles way of handling things a lot of the time. The privacy concerns which come with using Google services sticks out in my mind, but despite this fact their services are hugely the better of the bunch, and sometimes there has to be a compromise. I'd say there's much better alternatives to their mailing system, and their DuckDuckgo's search engine is much more consistent these days, but I'm not tried any other service which is clearly better than their captcha system.

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Quote from: Asuspawer09 on April 19, 2020, 06:03:33 AM

This Google reCaptcha plus slow internet speed would annoy you for real, but I guess google is justs having its safety measures and avoiding the log-in of bots on the website so for other security reasons this is useful.

Have you ever experience being blacklisted by reCAPTCHA?

It's a nightmare when the images just take forever to load and they immediately fail you even after submitting the correct results.

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Quote from: davidpbrown on April 18, 2020, 10:37:06 AM

tdlr; stay logged in because logging back in is a pina.

It's also much more of a pain in the ass if you are Tor browser or VPN fan. There is some degree of hatred towards Tor browser by cloudflare.

I've tried logging in to an unsecured computer or a rental computer and download the tor browser just to make sure.

This Google reCaptcha plus slow internet speed would annoy you for real, but I guess google is justs having its safety measures and avoiding the log-in of bots on the website so for other security reasons this is useful.

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Quote from: ABCbits on April 19, 2020, 03:23:34 AM

Maybe theymos should consider hCaptcha since CloudFlare already move from reCAPTCHA to hCaptcha.

I suggested the same captcha back in 2019, but I didn't get any response from admin, which means that (at least then) he didn't consider it an acceptable solution.

Quote from: Lucius on October 26, 2019, 05:13:23 AM

I know one captcha which is one of the last to appear on the market, and it was quite similar to reCaptcha, but recently has become quite difficult for most users, and is becoming less and less used.
https://www.hcaptcha.com/

As I commented then, this captcha can be quite demanding, similar to reCaptcha, sometimes a lot more demanding, which probably depends on user IP address and number of captchas user solve in some period of time.

Why is reCaptcha still the first and only choice :

Quote from: theymos on October 25, 2019, 01:11:43 PM

reCAPTCHA is the only effective one. I just looked at FunCAPTCHA, and the rotating-pictures thing would be pretty easy to train a neural network to solve. Also, the language on the front page makes it look like it's targeted toward enterprises who'd have no problem blocking Tor. I bet they'll start blanket-banning Tor once they start losing the arms race against attackers.

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Quote from: UserU on April 19, 2020, 03:42:50 AM

Quote from: ABCbits on April 19, 2020, 03:23:34 AM

Maybe theymos should consider hCaptcha since CloudFlare already move from reCAPTCHA to hCaptcha.

Your suggestion can't be applied to Tor Browser user, unless they're willing to change configuration of Tor Browser to remember cookies (comes with serious privacy implication though)

One gripe about hCAPCTHA is that their window is thicc! It takes like almost twice the size of reCAPTCHA.

True, but i took a peek at their docs and looks the windows size is configurable. See 2nd table https://docs.hcaptcha.com/configuration with attribute data-size

Anyway, it's better when we have more option which proven to be work (since it's used by big company such as CloudFlare)

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Quote from: ABCbits on April 19, 2020, 03:23:34 AM

Maybe theymos should consider hCaptcha since CloudFlare already move from reCAPTCHA to hCaptcha.

Your suggestion can't be applied to Tor Browser user, unless they're willing to change configuration of Tor Browser to remember cookies (comes with serious privacy implication though)

One gripe about hCAPCTHA is that their window is thicc! It takes like almost twice the size of reCAPTCHA.

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Maybe theymos should consider hCaptcha since CloudFlare already move from reCAPTCHA to hCaptcha.

Quote from: ChuckBuck on April 19, 2020, 02:17:58 AM

Maybe you already know, but if you only use one browser and one PC, simply log in and check the "always stay logged in" box, you will not need to deal with any future reCaptcha. . Except that you own more than one account Tongue

I don't know what browser you use, but personally, I use Google Chrome and I never have to deal with any reCaptcha, I click it simply and it is verified, there's no need to verify images. It makes me feel nothing difficult here.

Your suggestion can't be applied to Tor Browser user, unless they're willing to change configuration of Tor Browser to remember cookies (comes with serious privacy implication though)

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Google recapcha sucks and it is evil but it is a necessary evil.

If people weren't trying to use bots to post shit here and on other forums, there wouldn't be any google captcha. It didn't exist few years ago.

I am not even sure if it works against all botters though. They probably found a way to bypass it too already.

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Maybe you already know, but if you only use one browser and one PC, simply log in and check the "always stay logged in" box, you will not need to deal with any future reCaptcha. . Except that you own more than one account Tongue

I don't know what browser you use, but personally, I use Google Chrome and I never have to deal with any reCaptcha, I click it simply and it is verified, there's no need to verify images. It makes me feel nothing difficult here.

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Quote from: davidpbrown on April 18, 2020, 10:37:06 AM

tdlr; stay logged in because logging back in is a pina.

It's also much more of a pain in the ass if you are Tor browser or VPN fan. There is some degree of hatred towards Tor browser by cloudflare.

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You can go here to bypass google captcha https://bitcointalk.org/captcha_code.php

Just make sure you don't share the login link to anyone for security reason

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Just another way Google does evil.

I'm an not a robot.. why must I work for Google! 😬

tdlr; stay logged in because logging back in is a pina.

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