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Topic: ★★★ Gratis Bitcoins gewinnen auf GratisBitco.in ★★★ (Read 3851 times)

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Offline all the time and when back my counter starts at 0 and i never received any pay
I should have known. Now you keep my referrals and laugh your asses off.

Again a shit example for a shit community

good luck!
TCM
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Lasted not even a month. "We're hoping to be back soon!" LOL
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Payout per hour lowered to 0.1uBTC, LOL! What a joke. Of course you don't see anywhere how much you actually get until you roll. You'd have to roll 24/7 every single hour for almost 23 days to even reach the minimum transaction set by the Bitcoin network.

Removed from bookmarks. Greedy fcks.

Edit: The minimum is actually even lower. You get a whopping 0.05uBTC! Yes, that's 5 satoshis. Don't waste your time with this garbage.

Basically that's how most of these sites work today - fully knowing a large percentage of users try them for a while but give up due to the time needed to actually achieve minimum payout limits. Even more free money for the greedy operator.
Faucets seemed to be an okay thing in the past, now they're just run by profit-hungry (censored) that try to fool other people into working for them, preferrably for free.
TCM
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Payout per hour lowered to 0.1uBTC, LOL! What a joke. Of course you don't see anywhere how much you actually get until you roll. You'd have to roll 24/7 every single hour for almost 23 days to even reach the minimum transaction set by the Bitcoin network.

Removed from bookmarks. Greedy fcks.

Edit: The minimum is actually even lower. You get a whopping 0.05uBTC! Yes, that's 5 satoshis. Don't waste your time with this garbage.
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I guess it's just a harsh world out there, that kinda sums it up.
I assume it was never different, just the way humans are (?)

I believe that it is actually not the way we are but it is the way we have been educated. They use politics, religion, education etc against us and of course money as well. Its in all our minds because it has been put there.

Thanks for the chat

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I guess it's just a harsh world out there, that kinda sums it up.
I assume it was never different, just the way humans are (?)
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Thanks falcon for your elaborated reply!

I am aware that 'these sites' do not give anything for free, on the contrary they make more money then the people would realize. According to your logic its adsenses fault or maybe the captcha providers? What I am trying to say is that the evil system is already in place, not put there by the person who exploits the people coming to his "free" service.

So a person takes advantage of the system and starts exploiting users, these users start referring other users thereby committing the same 'crime' as the person who started all this.

Do not get me wrong i do understand where you come from AND I agree but still what can one do? The mere fact that this system is there to be exploited means that it will be. The funny part is that the sheep that fall for it start bringing in other sheep because everyone seems to have the same mindset; GREED!

This is the big fail about bitcoin. It pretends to be a different currency but in the end its not. its all moved by greed just like any type of currency/wealth.

So although I full heartedly (and sadly) agree with you i am now going to update my blog and get some sheep to play dice so I can get some btc to put up the next game we can complain about.

meanwhile the marketing machine does not change (adsense...) we have no other choice to do what they dictate. Or do we?

Take care 
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The site has been live for just about 2 weeks and the dice game has already been played 140.000 times, so people do seem to like it.

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Ah ok, I understand. But honestly, the only reason the dice game has not a fixed 50% chance, is to keep away the bots. We get our revenue from advertisements, not from gambling edge profit.

Didn't sound like Ads are your primary revenue with these gambling figures but that's none of my business. I didn't visit the site anymore after my analysis.
(don't worry, I know exactly how sites like these make their money so any further discussion is pointless Wink )



Hi,

could you explain what you have against "these sites". As I see it people get free btc and choose for themselves if they want to cash out or play. You make it sound fishy to say the least.

thanx

Pff... okay, I'll try to keep it short.

First of all, nothing on these sites is "free". Never has been, never will.
- Users have to generate Unique Hits and PageViews for the various AdSense Systems in use by the respective sites
- these Unique Hits and PageViews generate fairly lots of base revenue for the operator
- Users get only a miniscule fraction of the profit the operator reaks in
- additionally, affiliate/referrer programs encourage people to spam the site into open forums
-> with that, they act as almost free multiplicators for the site operator, again getting only a miniscule fraction of the additional profits
- unknown to uneducated users, the often uncontrolled use of Adobe flash/Java etc. coupled with often questionable advertising programs opens the gate for drive-by downloads or zero day exploits
(which as every visitor has a Bitcoin Wallet is a perfect honeypot)
- unknown to uneducated users, implemented Captcha Functions can also be sold to Botnet operators, essentially using human resource to solve non-computer readable problems to i.e. allow SpamBots to penetrate hard targets that otherwise successfully block them
- added gambling functions only serve the purpose to skin the users of these "services" even more, absolutely maximizing profts using rigged algos

In short, outside of the Bitcoin world, sites like these are considered the bottom sediment of the Internet. Before the digital coins re-opened the opportunity for micro/nano-payments, these structures were basically as good as dead.
The Operators of these sites make alot of money with it in several ways and give a miniscule tiny crumb of bread to those that do all the dirty work, with the rigged gambling option their profit massively increases even further (the large duration between payouts is to maximize unique IPs as most users use dynamically assigned IP, as well as channel people into gambling by creating impatience and suggesting easy and fair winning chances).

As you correctly state, however, it's every person's own decision to help these folks reak in profits.
Sheeple will always be sheeple (because they like it) and no education will ever change that, even if presented on a silver plate easy to digest. Lack of technical skills, deeper knowledge of tech involved and general gullible behaviour helps to cloud the complex methods employed by Site Operators to maximize their profits.
That's why we see record numbers of wolfes entering the game. Easy meat they call it.

Compared to the real world, it would mean people knitting T-Shirts for less than 5 cents/hour pay, while having the option of losing that in the casino that's inside the same building. Not even the poorest 3rd world workers would go to work for that and it would create an absolute outcry.
But enter the world of the internet and you'll find more than enough willing to basically do just that and even honestly believing they'd get a fair deal... One can almost hardly blame the Operators of these schemes, it's almost too easy to skin the sheeple to be true. I guess even they sometimes at night lay awake, silently grin and and shake their heads in disbelief that they actually get people making them money for almost free.

Personally, I like to call it "Fools crowdfunding".
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The site has been live for just about 2 weeks and the dice game has already been played 140.000 times, so people do seem to like it.

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Ah ok, I understand. But honestly, the only reason the dice game has not a fixed 50% chance, is to keep away the bots. We get our revenue from advertisements, not from gambling edge profit.

Didn't sound like Ads are your primary revenue with these gambling figures but that's none of my business. I didn't visit the site anymore after my analysis.
(don't worry, I know exactly how sites like these make their money so any further discussion is pointless Wink )



Hi,

could you explain what you have against "these sites". As I see it people get free btc and choose for themselves if they want to cash out or play. You make it sound fishy to say the least.

thanx
sr. member
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The site has been live for just about 2 weeks and the dice game has already been played 140.000 times, so people do seem to like it.

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Ah ok, I understand. But honestly, the only reason the dice game has not a fixed 50% chance, is to keep away the bots. We get our revenue from advertisements, not from gambling edge profit.

Didn't sound like Ads are your primary revenue with these gambling figures but that's none of my business. I didn't visit the site anymore after my analysis.
(don't worry, I know exactly how sites like these make their money so any further discussion is pointless Wink )

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I meant the whole, typical concept that encourages impatient users to play the rigged dice game to maximize your profits.

Ah ok, I understand. But honestly, the only reason the dice game has not a fixed 50% chance, is to keep away the bots. We get our revenue from advertisements, not from gambling edge profit.
sr. member
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What do you mean "at the cost of others"? Visitors get their Bitcoins for free from the site, so they never lose their own money.

I meant the whole, typical concept that encourages impatient users to play the rigged dice game to maximize your profits.
newbie
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What do you mean "at the cost of others"? Visitors get their Bitcoins for free from the site, so they never lose their own money.
sr. member
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Thanks for your feedback. My German is not good enough to understand exactly what you're saying Smiley But I think I understand most of it.

The site has been live for just about 2 weeks and the dice game has already been played 140.000 times, so people do seem to like it.

A new feature that has been added recently is the Referral Program (http://www.gratisbitco.in/?q=referral) which gives visitors the opportunity to earn some BTCBTCBTC by sharing the link to our website.

Yes, that's a natural way for such sites to promote.

Anyway, I've tested the site for a while and dumped the tiny amount I made in the rigged dice game with the expected results Wink
(it's coded properly to sufficiently prevent impatient people exceeding the payout limits, at least the streak logic seemed functional in my tests).
So in short, all tilts and rigs are in place, waiting for victims like on all the other sites that include gambling.

Technically, everything works and you should be able to make money with it at the cost of others.
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Naja, typische Dauerwerbeseite (hit-magnet), welche mit dem Zugpferd free Bitcoins die unique views fuer Ad-Dienste besorgt und der Betreiber somit Geld verdient...
Von diesen "Faucets" die eher "paying hit-magnets" heissen muessten, gibt es mittlerweile sehr viele.
Das Wuerfel-Spiel sollten sie entfernen (IMHO), da sowas absolut intransparent und grundsaetzlich sehr unserioes wirkt, was in den FAQ mit einem Augenzwinkern ja auch zugegeben wird Wink
(die Page an sich ist ja eher unaufdringlich, sehr funktioniell und gut gestaltet).

Ob sich das am Ende lohnt, muessen sie mit ihren Werbevertraegen kalkulieren.

Thanks for your feedback. My German is not good enough to understand exactly what you're saying Smiley But I think I understand most of it.

The site has been live for just about 2 weeks and the dice game has already been played 140.000 times, so people do seem to like it.

A new feature that has been added recently is the Referral Program (http://www.gratisbitco.in/?q=referral) which gives visitors the opportunity to earn some BTCBTCBTC by sharing the link to our website.
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Bitte besuchen Sie meine neue Seite. So, was denken Sie? Ich möchte Ihre Meinung wissen.

www.gratisbitco.in

Stündlich gratis Bitcoins gewinnen! Bis zu 2000 Satoshis pro Stunde.



Naja, typische Dauerwerbeseite (hit-magnet), welche mit dem Zugpferd free Bitcoins die unique views fuer Ad-Dienste besorgt und der Betreiber somit Geld verdient...
Von diesen "Faucets" die eher "paying hit-magnets" heissen muessten, gibt es mittlerweile sehr viele.
Das Wuerfel-Spiel sollten sie entfernen (IMHO), da sowas absolut intransparent und grundsaetzlich sehr unserioes wirkt, was in den FAQ mit einem Augenzwinkern ja auch zugegeben wird Wink
(die Page an sich ist ja eher unaufdringlich, sehr funktioniell und gut gestaltet).

Ob sich das am Ende lohnt, muessen sie mit ihren Werbevertraegen kalkulieren.
newbie
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