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More than 100,000 refugees and migrants have arrived in Europe so far this year, at triple the rate of arrivals over the first half of 2015.

The number of immigrants is relatively low, as the winter season is still not finished. From mid-March onward, we can expect an immigrant influx of approx. 300,000 (or more) per month, and the rates will remain stable till November or December. I am expecting a total immigrant influx of 2 million to 3 million for 2016.
already 110,000 during the first 6 weeks of 2016, even when winter make the trip difficult? This will result in 1.0 Million of a steady flow for this entire year and hardly anyone has the guts to do what's needed to stop the invading hordes.


Yeah oh my god no people actually fleeing from the shitty countries we created and coming for a better life how terrible they are!!! Roll Eyes
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already 110,000 during the first 6 weeks of 2016, even when winter make the trip difficult? This will result in 1.0 Million of a steady flow for this entire year and hardly anyone has the guts to do what's needed to stop the invading hordes.

Everything will depend upon the Turkish response. There are up to 3 million of these "refugees" in Turkey. And the goat-fucker of Ankara is not happy with the recent ceasefire deal in Syria. He is already threatening that he will ship all these 3 million to the Balkans, unless he gets what he want (i.e more money, and a large chunk of land in the Latakia and Idlib provinces of Syria).
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More than 100,000 refugees and migrants have arrived in Europe so far this year, at triple the rate of arrivals over the first half of 2015.

The number of immigrants is relatively low, as the winter season is still not finished. From mid-March onward, we can expect an immigrant influx of approx. 300,000 (or more) per month, and the rates will remain stable till November or December. I am expecting a total immigrant influx of 2 million to 3 million for 2016.
already 110,000 during the first 6 weeks of 2016, even when winter make the trip difficult? This will result in 1.0 Million of a steady flow for this entire year and hardly anyone has the guts to do what's needed to stop the invading hordes.


Go and do something bro.
How about about go and fight ISIS?
Ah no i doubt cowards who are just internet warriors like you would do that.

At most you people can only probaly set fires to asylums.
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More than 100,000 refugees and migrants have arrived in Europe so far this year, at triple the rate of arrivals over the first half of 2015.

The number of immigrants is relatively low, as the winter season is still not finished. From mid-March onward, we can expect an immigrant influx of approx. 300,000 (or more) per month, and the rates will remain stable till November or December. I am expecting a total immigrant influx of 2 million to 3 million for 2016.
already 110,000 during the first 6 weeks of 2016, even when winter make the trip difficult? This will result in 1.0 Million of a steady flow for this entire year and hardly anyone has the guts to do what's needed to stop the invading hordes.
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The European Union just gave € 3,000 million to Turkey, for the same purpose. And the Turks are sending these funds directly to the ISIS 
Tell Turkey to use all the money they are saving from buying ISIS oil (they lied about) and use THAT savings to pay their bills. All of Europe, build fences all around. Much cheaper!!


Are you crazy? you think turkey will fund Isis with money Europe gave them?

U know that there have been multiple Isis attacks in turkey already right?

I've been to Turkey and there live a lot of nice people, they are the most western muslim country.

And we are not going to build fences around Europe, you sound like Trump..

And you do realize that the current president of Turkey is a Muslim extremist, manipulating the media and transforming the democracy into a dictatorhip?

You are right.
I think that Turkish president using this big refugee crisis very well to receive more money and support from EU and also to attack Kurds in Syria and Iraq without any punishment.
He almost started war with Russia over tinny incident.
Turkey is not part of solution in this conflict but part of problem.
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The European Union just gave € 3,000 million to Turkey, for the same purpose. And the Turks are sending these funds directly to the ISIS 
Tell Turkey to use all the money they are saving from buying ISIS oil (they lied about) and use THAT savings to pay their bills. All of Europe, build fences all around. Much cheaper!!


Are you crazy? you think turkey will fund Isis with money Europe gave them?

U know that there have been multiple Isis attacks in turkey already right?

I've been to Turkey and there live a lot of nice people, they are the most western muslim country.

And we are not going to build fences around Europe, you sound like Trump..

And you do realize that the current president of Turkey is a Muslim extremist, manipulating the media and transforming the democracy into a dictatorhip?
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Muslim migrants always cost a fortune and provide little in exchange, usually shy of proper work (please, don't name as work sitting in shabby corner shop!) All they do later is never integrate and try to recreate the very Muslim lunacy they had to leave as migrants in their former countries.
yes i totally agree with you.. they have to do some serious job in their new countries and integrate if not they should be kicked out of them..

I doubt whether they will be ready to do the blue-collar jobs. There are a lot of low-paying jobs available across the European Union. Just to name a few, there is a shortage of agricultural workers in Italy, there is a severe shortage of masons in England, and factories are closing in Poland due to the lack of workers. But most of these jobs are located in the rural areas, and the salary might not be very attractive.
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The European Union just gave € 3,000 million to Turkey, for the same purpose. And the Turks are sending these funds directly to the ISIS 
Tell Turkey to use all the money they are saving from buying ISIS oil (they lied about) and use THAT savings to pay their bills. All of Europe, build fences all around. Much cheaper!!


Are you crazy? you think turkey will fund Isis with money Europe gave them?

U know that there have been multiple Isis attacks in turkey already right?

I've been to Turkey and there live a lot of nice people, they are the most western muslim country.

And we are not going to build fences around Europe, you sound like Trump..




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Muslim migrants always cost a fortune and provide little in exchange, usually shy of proper work (please, don't name as work sitting in shabby corner shop!) All they do later is never integrate and try to recreate the very Muslim lunacy they had to leave as migrants in their former countries.

yes i totally agree with you.. they have to do some serious job in their new countries and integrate if not they should be kicked out of them..
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Thats a good initiation by Europe to help Greece by various forms. The refugees initially will just try to be under control, when their strength increases automatically they try to take control over country men which recently happened in Germany. So finally Greece is gonna suffer for the good it did.

Good initiative? Greece is being given some €80 million, while Turkey gets €3,000 million. What sort of justice is this? And Greece is currently facing a financial meltdown, while Turkey is making billions of USD every year by selling crude oil from the ISIS. For me it seems like the European Union is completely biased against the Greeks.

Because greece already got 250 billion € since 2010 not counting the haircut.
That makes 50 billion a year.



Yeah but it was the EU who asked to open Greek borders :-/
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More than 100,000 refugees and migrants have arrived in Europe so far this year, at triple the rate of arrivals over the first half of 2015.

The number of immigrants is relatively low, as the winter season is still not finished. From mid-March onward, we can expect an immigrant influx of approx. 300,000 (or more) per month, and the rates will remain stable till November or December. I am expecting a total immigrant influx of 2 million to 3 million for 2016.
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Refugee arrivals in Greece exceed 100,000 in less than two months





More than 100,000 refugees and migrants have arrived in Europe so far this year, at triple the rate of arrivals over the first half of 2015.

At least 102,500 have arrived on the Greek islands of Samos, Kos and Lesbos, according to the International Organisation for Migration (IOM). Another 7,500 have reached Italy, and in the first six weeks of the year 411 people are known to have died attempting to make the journey.

In 2015 the threshold of 100,000 arrivals was not reached until the end of June. As spring approaches and the weather improves, the rate of arrivals this year is expected to climb further.

The IOM said 20% of the arrivals were from Afghanistan and nearly half were Syrians. On Monday the US and Russia agreed to organise a partial truce involving the Assad regime and most of the Syrian armed opposition, but not Islamic State or the Nusra Front. There are widespread doubts about how effective the ceasefire will be and how long it will last.

The influx of refugees has been met with a chaotic response among European countries. On Friday Austria imposed of a cap on the number of people it would admit each day to 80 asylum seekers and 3,200 people seeking transit to other EU countries. The restriction prompted Macedonia to stop Afghans crossing its border from Greece, triggering riots by Afghans and bitter complaints from Athens and the UN refugee agency, the UNCHR.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/23/number-of-refugee-arrivals-in-greece-passes-100000-in-less-than-two-months
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We dont need their money. We can print 80m drachmas.

It was the European Union which forced the Greeks to open their borders to the unwashed hordes of barbarians from the Middle East. The Greeks don't want any of them in their territory, but are forced to accept them on the orders of the EU. So it is the responsibility of the European Union to compensate the Greeks for any loss they suffer from this influx.
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Thats a good initiation by Europe to help Greece by various forms. The refugees initially will just try to be under control, when their strength increases automatically they try to take control over country men which recently happened in Germany. So finally Greece is gonna suffer for the good it did.

Good initiative? Greece is being given some €80 million, while Turkey gets €3,000 million. What sort of justice is this? And Greece is currently facing a financial meltdown, while Turkey is making billions of USD every year by selling crude oil from the ISIS. For me it seems like the European Union is completely biased against the Greeks.

Because greece already got 250 billion € since 2010 not counting the haircut.
That makes 50 billion a year.

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We dont need their money. We can print 80m drachmas.
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Thats a good initiation by Europe to help Greece by various forms. The refugees initially will just try to be under control, when their strength increases automatically they try to take control over country men which recently happened in Germany. So finally Greece is gonna suffer for the good it did.

Good initiative? Greece is being given some €80 million, while Turkey gets €3,000 million. What sort of justice is this? And Greece is currently facing a financial meltdown, while Turkey is making billions of USD every year by selling crude oil from the ISIS. For me it seems like the European Union is completely biased against the Greeks.
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Thats a good initiation by Europe to help Greece by various forms. The refugees initially will just try to be under control, when their strength increases automatically they try to take control over country men which recently happened in Germany. So finally Greece is gonna suffer for the good it did.
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Muslim migrants always cost a fortune and provide little in exchange, usually shy of proper work (please, don't name as work sitting in shabby corner shop!) All they do later is never integrate and try to recreate the very Muslim lunacy they had to leave as migrants in their former countries.
Why are you so racist, refugee is a refugee, how do you think will you treated in muslim countries if you were a refugee? This what is doing EU and this help to Greece is a good and human thing and every other country should do the same.

It's not racist if you speak about Muslims. The second question is easy, any non muslim in a muslim country is a 2nd rank citizen:
[img/]https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.camera.org%2Fimages_user%2Fmuslims_only_sign-mecca_large.jpg&f=1[/img]
Thanks for showing me this picture haven't seen this before even though i heard about it, search in google about the meaning. About topic helping people is human act.
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Hotel vouchers, apartment rental programmes and subsidies to host families to be supported by European commission

The European commission has pledged to give €80m (£58m) to Greece to help house refugees through schemes including an apartment rental programme, hotel vouchers and subsidies to families who will host refugees.

The scheme, announced in Athens on Monday, aims to provide 20,000 additional reception places to the country on the frontline of Europe’s migration crisis. Asylum seekers and candidates seeking relocation elsewhere in Europe will be eligible.

“Today we stand in solidarity with Greece and with children, women and men seeking refuge in Europe,” said the commission vice-president Kristalina Georgieva. “The scheme we are launching offers EU budgetary support for families, notably providing them with adequate shelter.”

Greece has seen more than 790,000 men, women and children land on its shores since January. Almost all wish to continue their journey north, through the Balkan peninsula to central Europe. But the decision of several countries along that corridor to close their borders to anyone deemed not to be from a conflict zone has left thousands stranded.

Violence has punctuated chaotic scenes along Greece’s border with its northern neighbour Macedonia.

Labouring under its worst economic crisis in modern times, Athens has scrambled to host the arrivals in sporting venues erected for the 2004 Olympic Games, in camps on Greek islands and in tents in public squares.

Tensions have risen noticeably as Moroccans and other economic migrants, temporarily sheltered in an estwhile Olympic taekwondo venue, have protested against conditions and demanded to be allowed to continue their journey onwards into Europe. In a nation racked by plummeting living standards and recession, the prime minister, Alexis Tsipras, and other officials are increasingly voicing fears that Greece will become a “repository of trapped souls” desperately trying to move west.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/14/greece-eu-refugees-migration-crisis


i dont understand that all the europe wants to let asylum seeker enter its countiries freely.. when greece had some financial troubles at a time, eu didnt want to show any sign of helping to it.. so why is eu volunteer to help immigrants now ? this is so ridiculous..
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Greek citizens won't be happy, and their tourism will suffer if that happens. Now strike in Athens against Tzipras so probably if they need to give home to refugees it will be almost war there
it won't affect it as much as a vat rise on tourist to greece will greece as a tourist will be a thing of the past
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Greek citizens won't be happy, and their tourism will suffer if that happens. Now strike in Athens against Tzipras so probably if they need to give home to refugees it will be almost war there

Tsipras is completely helpless, as Greece is no longer a sovereign nation. The Greek government takes orders from the European Union establishment, which is a puppet of the United States and its vassal Germany. If Tsipras had the power, the he might have sent back all these migrants to Turkey, without a second thought.
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Greek citizens won't be happy, and their tourism will suffer if that happens. Now strike in Athens against Tzipras so probably if they need to give home to refugees it will be almost war there
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Greece is in hard position, because of Turkey..Greek islands are in horrible situation, Lezbos, Samos,Kos,Rhodes..immigrants are everywhere...but Greek people don't like them..Don't know what Tzipras will do, now they transport them with ferry to Athens and than on train to Gevgelia..
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The European Union just gave € 3,000 million to Turkey, for the same purpose. And the Turks are sending these funds directly to the ISIS 
Tell Turkey to use all the money they are saving from buying ISIS oil (they lied about) and use THAT savings to pay their bills. All of Europe, build fences all around. Much cheaper!!
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They should relocate ALL these Syrian refugees on the Greek Islands that are currently not used or underutilized. Greeks aren't doing anything with them, and they can't afford to keep them up. Let the Syrians have it. They will do better. Besides European Unions already paid Greece PLENTY of money Plenty of times in advance. They may as well get their money's worth.

Boy, you better mind your own business. Greek islands belong to the Greeks. They don't want any of the unwashed hordes from Pakistan and Somalia on their islands. If you are that concerned about these "refugees", then ask Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum (Prime Minister of the United Arab Emirates) to house all of them in the Palm Islands.
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hey you, yeah you, fuck you!!!
Greece is facing a huge migrant crisis (Greek population is much smaller than Turkey, and they are dealing with a lot more migrants), and they are being given only around 2% of what was given to the goatfuckers?
They should relocate ALL these Syrian refugees on the Greek Islands that are currently not used or underutilized. Greeks aren't doing anything with them, and they can't afford to keep them up. Let the Syrians have it. They will do better. Besides European Unions already paid Greece PLENTY of money Plenty of times in advance. They may as well get their money's worth.
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Is this some sort of a joke? The European Union just gave € 3,000 million to Turkey, for the same purpose. And the Turks are sending these funds directly to the ISIS and the Al Nusra Front, rather than doing anything for the refugees. Greece is facing a huge migrant crisis (Greek population is much smaller than Turkey, and they are dealing with a lot more migrants), and they are being given only around 2% of what was given to the goatfuckers?
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How could they know i am not a muslim. there are white people that are muslim. So how are they going to control it? And what will happen to me if they realize i am non muslim? How do they check it anyway?
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Muslim migrants always cost a fortune and provide little in exchange, usually shy of proper work (please, don't name as work sitting in shabby corner shop!) All they do later is never integrate and try to recreate the very Muslim lunacy they had to leave as migrants in their former countries.
Why are you so racist, refugee is a refugee, how do you think will you treated in muslim countries if you were a refugee? This what is doing EU and this help to Greece is a good and human thing and every other country should do the same.

I agree with you.
EU maybe was to slow in their response, maybe they did some strategic mistakes in Syria before, but they really acted in the best possible and human way and helped a lot refugees to survive and EU gave them second chance in their lives.
You generalize Muslim a lot, I know a lot hard working Muslim and also some Christian people which don't like to work.

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Muslim migrants always cost a fortune and provide little in exchange, usually shy of proper work (please, don't name as work sitting in shabby corner shop!) All they do later is never integrate and try to recreate the very Muslim lunacy they had to leave as migrants in their former countries.
Why are you so racist, refugee is a refugee, how do you think will you treated in muslim countries if you were a refugee? This what is doing EU and this help to Greece is a good and human thing and every other country should do the same.

It's not racist if you speak about Muslims. The second question is easy, any non muslim in a muslim country is a 2nd rank citizen:
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.camera.org%2Fimages_user%2Fmuslims_only_sign-mecca_large.jpg&f=1
Please lets ignore all the muslims in europe and us because thats what they do with europeans or us citizens in their countrys. Its time people, think about it
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Muslim migrants always cost a fortune and provide little in exchange, usually shy of proper work (please, don't name as work sitting in shabby corner shop!) All they do later is never integrate and try to recreate the very Muslim lunacy they had to leave as migrants in their former countries.
Why are you so racist, refugee is a refugee, how do you think will you treated in muslim countries if you were a refugee? This what is doing EU and this help to Greece is a good and human thing and every other country should do the same.

It's not racist if you speak about Muslims. The second question is easy, any non muslim in a muslim country is a 2nd rank citizen:
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Muslim migrants always cost a fortune and provide little in exchange, usually shy of proper work (please, don't name as work sitting in shabby corner shop!) All they do later is never integrate and try to recreate the very Muslim lunacy they had to leave as migrants in their former countries.
Why are you so racist, refugee is a refugee, how do you think will you treated in muslim countries if you were a refugee? This what is doing EU and this help to Greece is a good and human thing and every other country should do the same.
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So, let's say that the meagre amount of money that corresponds to each person is enough to get them under a roof. What happens with finding them a job, educating their children, providing health care and all these other little things that would keep a small country already in debt from turning into a country-size Molotov cocktail?
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Why are they housing any refugees at all when they are already broke. Also, they haven't colonialised the world or bombed the middle east so any problems there are aren't their problem.



It's easy for these guys to walk into Europe, unlike the US they don't have any border control.
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Why are they housing any refugees at all when they are already broke. Also, they haven't colonialised the world or bombed the middle east so any problems there are aren't their problem.

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Refugee crisis: EU summit exposes impotence and unfulfilled pledges

European solidarity weakens further as divisions grow between countries over border control and refugee quotas


European leaders are struggling to agree on action to manage the refugee crisis amid ever deepening divisions, impotence and failure to follow through on earlier pledges.

While David Cameron’s campaign to refashion the terms of Britain’s EU membership was set to occupy much of a critical summit, for many of the other leaders the migration crisis loomed larger, given that an estimated 1.2 million people have entered the European Union this year, mainly from the Middle East.

Leaders were to discuss incendiary proposals tabled by the European commission this week to create an EU border and coastguard, empowered to overrule national governments when the EU’s external frontiers are deemed to be inadequately secured.

The proposal won strong support on Thursday from the German and French leaders, but in many parts of the EU it was viewed as an assault on national sovereignty.

The summit, the fifth such meeting in a row to focus on the migration emergency, revisited many of the measures that heads of government and interior ministers had decided on since last spring, but had not put into effect.

“The measures have been taken, but not applied,” said the French president, François Hollande, for whom tough security policies are particularly important after the terrorist attacks in Paris last month.

Britain is only marginally involved in the policy debate because it is not part of the 26-country free-travel Schengen zone, takes no part in EU common asylum policies and needs not take part in EU interior policy coordination.


Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/17/refugee-crisis-eu-summit-exposes-impotence-and-unfulfilled-pledges
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Muslim migrants always cost a fortune and provide little in exchange, usually shy of proper work (please, don't name as work sitting in shabby corner shop!) All they do later is never integrate and try to recreate the very Muslim lunacy they had to leave as migrants in their former countries.
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Hotel vouchers, apartment rental programmes and subsidies to host families to be supported by European commission

The European commission has pledged to give €80m (£58m) to Greece to help house refugees through schemes including an apartment rental programme, hotel vouchers and subsidies to families who will host refugees.

The scheme, announced in Athens on Monday, aims to provide 20,000 additional reception places to the country on the frontline of Europe’s migration crisis. Asylum seekers and candidates seeking relocation elsewhere in Europe will be eligible.

“Today we stand in solidarity with Greece and with children, women and men seeking refuge in Europe,” said the commission vice-president Kristalina Georgieva. “The scheme we are launching offers EU budgetary support for families, notably providing them with adequate shelter.”

Greece has seen more than 790,000 men, women and children land on its shores since January. Almost all wish to continue their journey north, through the Balkan peninsula to central Europe. But the decision of several countries along that corridor to close their borders to anyone deemed not to be from a conflict zone has left thousands stranded.

Violence has punctuated chaotic scenes along Greece’s border with its northern neighbour Macedonia.

Labouring under its worst economic crisis in modern times, Athens has scrambled to host the arrivals in sporting venues erected for the 2004 Olympic Games, in camps on Greek islands and in tents in public squares.

Tensions have risen noticeably as Moroccans and other economic migrants, temporarily sheltered in an estwhile Olympic taekwondo venue, have protested against conditions and demanded to be allowed to continue their journey onwards into Europe. In a nation racked by plummeting living standards and recession, the prime minister, Alexis Tsipras, and other officials are increasingly voicing fears that Greece will become a “repository of trapped souls” desperately trying to move west.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/14/greece-eu-refugees-migration-crisis
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