Topic: [Guide] How to get your first crypto Visa card!! (Read 417 times)

Thanks for the reply, bakasabo.
I'm following the other topic from bitcoinst, so I'm going to ask there what I still don't understand. I can see that some members had different experiences.

This option allows to set minimum balance in USD and top-up as soon as your balance is below that minimum. But it does not convert crypto to fiat. Even in Binance dashboard the balance of your card is shown in USD, but when you enter your card you see different cryptocurrencies there.

I dont use Binance card as my primary card, just keep some balance there. Maybe in future, when I plan to get some fiat from crypto deal, I will try one more time this automatic conversion opportunity. But so far I plan just to trade and hold.

Forum has ^{a big list} of practically  all available Visa and Master  cards

Sigh, as much as I'd love to own one to use, such entities aren't viable in my country yet. Lots of red tapes and whatnot.

Great topic very informative, I was planning to get the crypto.com Visa card since it was just a great card and a lot of privileges.

I was just a little skeptical of the CRO staking and the platform because of a lot of changes in the platform like what happened in the MCO token but overall I think crypto.com is a great crypto visa card that we could use.

It's a metallic card as well as a nice looking card, hopefully, could be useful in the future if crypto is already widely used as a payment option for buying things.

Thanks for the thread, I was about to open one to ask questions around the subject
After playing with trading I have some "temporary" profit that I was intending to spend so, instead withdrawing to my bank account, or paying 5-15% fee for paypal transfer via different sellers, by using crypto card I can buy anything a VISA card would buy that sounds awesome! No clue yet about the fees for Binance card for transactions (didn't get into details yet though)

Have you tried setting that 'minimum balance' option? According to the FAQ documentation, Binance should automatically convert the required amount of crypto each day to top-up the minimum balance on the card wallet.

I would really prefer the use of Crypto.com's VISA card like the OP does. It's KYC is pretty straightforward and simple so does its system. Good thing about it is that it supports Paypal and Credit transfers plus its perks is really awesome. I've recently got mine and still have no issues using it. Good thing that using it to withdraw is much cheaper than using my local cryptowallet for dozens of withdrawals and physical transactions.

I'm planning to try Binance card as well since I am fond of using their platform.

I've got my card 3 weeks ago and it has VISA logo on it, while article you've posted is dated April 2020. Even on https://www.binance.com/en/cards/dashboard I have a picture of my card with VISA logo. I assume that information in that article might be misleading. Or it differs for which country card is issued.


Careful with that "don't need a manual top-up when I want to spend from the card wallet". Some users have their cryptocurrency converted to fiat automatically when they use card, but I have different experience (just go through the topic and read my posts, they might be useful).

I am interested in the same thing. As it looks at the moment, I think I will opt for the Binance card. Although I really like the Crypto.com metal card looks. Binance seems more convenient to me since I already have the funds there and don't need a manual top-up when I want to spend from the card wallet.

Ah good luck to that, as I said I havent looked into them because
they dont currently offer the cards in the E.U

Fold Card does sound appealing, I have applied on the waitlist, dont think its available in the E.U.
Click on the link below for more info besides "Terms of Sale"

https://foldapp.com/legal/terms-of-sale

8% is a very high level of cashback, one of the highest
the percentage is actually between 1% and 8%, depending on how many BNB tokens you have. The levels required for different cashback percentages are shown in the table below:

Just checked my binance card and it has Visa logo on it but much less visible than o photo 1 (not that bright).


BTW how is it possible to offer 8% cashback? Where those money comes from? How they achived that while my regular credic card from bank costs me a few dollars a month.

Personally, I did not find where to read the comments about Binance Card!
But I found  something intresting....

The text below the logo-free mock-up has since been scrubbed of that Visa mention.



Binance quietly scrubs Visa mentions from its payment card website

[BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards. The topic is for crypto debit cards but some of them are also Visa cards and the information in that topic can support yours.

In my opinion, connect your cards to service to buy or sell cryptocurrency is not actually good as many data leaks happen with visa, master, debit cards. It can be leaked from attacks on those services or from their internal data sellings. I would like to do my exchange orders with cryptocurrency only and if I don't have to cash out to fiat currency, I don't use any details for bank accounts or cards.

Prevention is better than cure and in crypto, when you lose your crypto, you lose it forever. It is irreversible.

They charge a $200 anual fee. Wouldn't recommend them.

Fold card is probably the best one in the entire market. No idea why people don't talk more about it. You get 3% cashback, 5% on Amazon, can get prizes (up to 1 BTC), you earn interest on your balance and they even support lightning. https://foldapp.com/card

Gemini is also going to release a card with 3% cashback and probably also free.

Excellent writeup OP, I was aware of the Coinbase and Wirex cards and have been
getting the Crypto.com Card advert on my twitter feed. I have not paid any attention
to them until the thread.

Blockfi  Crypto Card with rewards is another option for U.S residents only, I havent looked
into them yet but when to come to the E.U I would also consider them.

https://blockfi.com/bitcoin-card-crypto-rewards

I will definitely be getting a card but will probably be a few months away yet but its nice
to have a bit of education and comparison.

Great topic with useful information. I haven't used any crypto debit card for few years already probably, so it's probably time to get one. I wasn't aware that there is quite many cards available in the market. Last time when I searched for crypto debit card, there was very few available.
It would be nice to hear comments from someone who already use one of these cards. I'm interested what card would be best for EU based person? I haven't looked deeper, but from what I saw, I would pick between Crypto.com and Binance card. Is it there is some things that I should know before ordering it?
I just know one thing - even if Bitpay card would be available in EU, I would never order it. IMO, it's one of worst crypto services.

You might wanna add Crypterium in the list of crypto cards mate. This one of yours is very useful to those who are looking to apply or purchase crypto Visa or Mastercard. I am currently looking to acquire one actually, so that we could withdraw them anywhere in the world without the need of transferring them to our bank accounts.

Damn. Didn't know there are some many options. Thanks OP

I have binance card. They have up to 8% cashback (you forget to mention about it). I'm not sure why they have so low user score(3.43)? Is it possible to read comments?

Added information about fees with the links

Thanks for this information, now I have more options than wirex, binance and Coinbase.
I normally use Wirex card and this information is not accurated, we have more coins available, i suppose it is an old information about them.
It will be amazing if you can show in a quick view what are the maintenence fees for each of them. For example wirex fee is 1,20€/month.
Thanks anyways, good job.

Completed.

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Nice guide - good work OP.
Just a quick heads up Wirex are finishing their association with Visa and you can no longer order one  - their Visa cards will become invalid from 16th March. They will be using MasterCard.

You can add Swipe Card(SXP) to your list. It's cashback was close to crypto.com and many big exchange already supports it. But Crypto.com is the easiest card you can get among the list if you live outside US.

SXP website: https://swipe.io/

Update: 25/01/2021 Wirex - Visa cards will become invalid from 16th March
                               Added: Fold
                              

Ever want to spend your crypto in the real world? A crypto Visa card allows you to spend crypto anywhere that accepts Visa. These are structured as debit cards not credit cards, so you can’t spend more than the value of the crypto in your account. This means no credit checks, but it generally does requires AML/KYC.

Today we’re going to learn how to get started with a crypto Visa card. I’ll draw on my experience with one card in particular so we can dig into the details.

• Goal: Learn how to select and get started with your first crypto Visa card
  
• Skill: Beginner
  
• Effort: 1-2 hours
  
• ROI: Spend crypto in the real world—card perks can generate ROI but do the math first
  

Before we begin—no, crypto Visa cards aren’t the full bankless revolution we signed up for. This is an interim step. It’s using crypto money as a value store (no central bank!) but wrapping it in a credit card payment networks so you can spend it in the real world. Partially bankless. Remember the early internet days when people uploaded pdfs of their magazine instead of using web native html? This is like that.

Yes, a crypto card is useful for spending crypto in the real world. But, the deeper question—why would you want to spend your crypto in the first place?

I subscribe to the “hold your ETH spend your DAI” school of thought.

So generally I see store-of-value crypto reserve assets like ETH and BTC as investment assets. You hold these, you use them as collateral, you lend them out to accrue more—you don’t spend these unless you have to, and if you do spend them, you replace them with more.

Stablecoins? Different story. Spend away. These don’t appreciate in value over the long-run. These are meant for daily spending not long-term holding. (This is why I like DAI so much—backed by ETH so it’s still bankless but also perfect for daily spending).

So, I’d primarily use a crypto card to spend stablecoins rather than ETH or BTC.

That said I might also use a card to spend:

• Interest earned from ETH/BTC I lend out
• Small amounts of ETH/BTC I planned to sell anyway
• Non-money crypto assets I didn’t have high enough conviction to hold

Ideally, a crypto card is somehow paired with a lending service. That way I could park some of my store-of-value crypto money in an interest-yielding account and spend only the interest proceeds. I’d be spending the house money. I’ll admit the difference between spending interest vs spending principle is purely psychological—but then again, good crypto investing is mainly a psychological game. Better to train your brain to HOLD your crypto money—holding is often the hardest part.

The last reason for a card is perks. Do I get cash back? Do I pick up rewards? Does spending with card provide a higher ROI than other options?

So card makes sense for some types of spending. Time to select one.

There are many crypto cards available. Here’s a list.

Here’s another.

As in traditional finance the availability of cards is geography dependent.

Wirex		Wirex - supports DAI, monthly cost, cashback for in-store purchases, have heard fees are high for loading card and spending it. Just a quick heads up Wirex are finishing their association with Visa and you can no longer order one  - their Visa cards will become invalid from 16th March. They will be using MasterCard.
Monolith		Monolith - still new, supports DAI, card charging fee 2% (less if you use token), smart contract wallet means self-custody! (I’d try this if it was available in U.S)
Coinbase		Coinbase - no DAI support, 2.49% fees domestic, good place to start if you’re a Coinbase user
Blockcard		Blockcard - supports DAI, easy setup, not confident on their custody solution, their TERN token is Stellar not ERC20
Linen		Linen - uses Compound to generate interest while USD is idle, tested product, good UX, self custody on mobile (most bankless option in U.S. but still in beta)
Crypto.com		Crypto.com - solid UX, custody by Ledger Vault, good compliance certifications, does not support DAI w/ card, use a speculative utility token (pros/cons to this)
SWIPE		SWIPE - Visa Card comes in four options that enjoy benefits such as up to 8% cash back, no foreign transaction fees, Apple/Google/Samsung Pay, top-brand rebates, virtual cards, and real time security features. Swipe Wallet Bitcoin All Cash Back is paid in Bitcoin
Fold		Fold -  is building the payments stack for a new economy— one that puts privacy and bitcoin within reach of every shopper.

There were a few things about Crypto.com I had to get past.

First, they raised funds through an ICO token called MCO. The MCO token is a utility token used for perks within the Crypto.com economy. In the context of Visa cards, you can stake MCO (lock it up for a period of time) to receive better perks. The MCO token reminds me of Binance’s BNB, however MCO does not entitle holders to a share of Crypto.com profits as BNB tokens do for Binance. Think of MCO tokens as a membership points system of sorts.

Second, this is a crypto bank, so you have to give up custody of your crypto assets and trust both Crypto.com’s custody and risk management processes. While they don’t have the longevity and trust of a Coinbase or BitGo yet, they use Ledger Vault so they’re not rolling their own security, they’re audited by one of the Big Four accounting firms, and they’ve attained some hard to get ISO and PCI compliance. Enough good stuff here for me to risk loading a Visa card.

Third, their marketing is slick. So slick that it turned me off at first. But the best way to separate the substance from the sizzle of a product is to use it and when did so I was pleasantly surprised. Their mobile app is well put together, the process of ordering and activating a card straight-forward, and their packages and fees easy to understand—at least, once you wrap your head around the MCO token…we’ll get to that.

You can see the five different options for a MCO Visa card here. The Blue card doesn’t require you to buy and stake MCO, the rest do. In exchange for staking MCO, these higher-tier cards rewarded your with additional perks like a free Spotify subscription and LoungeKey Airport lounge access.

With all of the cards you get a % of your spending back denominated in MCO.

Here’s how I think about higher-tier cards—let’s take the Red card for example:

• You need to buy 50 MCO tokens (at $2.68 per token that’s $134)
  
  
• You need to lock up (e.g. stake) the 50 MCO tokens for at least 6 months
• You can sell the MCO after lock up but if you do your perks will disappear

Essentially, you’re incurring opportunity cost on the $134 you invest in MCO tokens, which isn’t much. But you’re taking speculative risk on the value of MCO tokens themselves which at one point were valued over $22 per token but have also dropped below $2—your $134 investment could do very well or you could lose it all.

You’ll want to run your own calculations, especially if you’re interested in the higher card tiers. But below is a deal that’ll help you get another $50 worth of benefits.


Get $25 worth of MCO tokens when you sign up for any of the Crypto.com metal cards. (Note: all cards listed here are metal aside from the Blue card).

Use referral link to sign up for Crypto.com and get $25 USD

After you determine the card you want the process of ordering it is simple:

• Download the Crypto.com app
  
  
• Complete AML/KYC via the in-app instructions
• Order your card in-app

You should receive your card a week or two later:

[1.]Active your card through the Crypto.com app

[2.]Add BTC/ETH to Crypto.com wallet by depositing to the address provided in app

[3.]Once BTC/ETH is in Crypto.com wallet top up your Card by converting it USD

Source:
https://newsletter.banklesshq.com/p/how-to-get-your-first-crypto-visa