Topic: [GUIDE] Overview of the trust flags (Read 1014 times)

I'll bump this since it would be useful to be read by more people and I also come with something potentially interesting.
It's only partly related to flags - it's more related to the red warning - , but it's a behavior of the forum that may be good to be known.

I mean this:


And for a better context I'll add this topic.

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Bump - for new members looking to understand the trust flag system.

I included that in the OP,  the images between must have made it a little bit obscure, I'll increase the size of the text slightly.

I think you can clarify a bit better which flags can be used and when. For instance that certain flags can only be used for contract violations and that incorrect use of flags is considered abuse.  Even accidental misuse or support of inaccurate flags can result in consequences.

If I understand correctly, you are suggesting that trust should be handled automatically based on programmed rules and guidelines. I am not into tech, but I do not know the probability of that being developed, but I also don't see the necessity. Every aspect of the forum is handled by forum members, hence the human interaction. The system may not be perfect, but there has been much changes recently and that has improved how it functions.

Can you explain further about the relationship between trust flags and the banking system?

Trust must be encoded and not anyhow related to human qualities, I believe. Otherwise we are just back to the good old centalized banking.

DTs are always charged to be sensible in their decisions, and while trust flags takes away some attention from negative trusts, they should be charged to not only hand them out for relevant cases which affects the general trustworthiness of a user.

It should be that DT members should not give negative trust for stupid reasons as it will become an abuse of having the DT member position rather than giving negative trust for the right reason or why it should be given to a certain user. DT members who do that will be non-DT member anymore. Anyway, this thread helps me to understand about trust flags.

True, and this depends solely on DT members, reason they were charged to be decisive in their assessment and judgements.

I have been reading through posts while I have been offline about the trust flag and had thought I fully understood the trust flags. theymos made it very simple on the initial thread. This post however draws my attention to some points on the new system.
It's great that logged out users and guests also get to view the flags on accounta

I appreciate your suggestions and corrections. Still doing my research as there are already multiple threads on the topic.

Theymos also discussed about how support and opposition are sorted;

The above applies only to red flags. Yellow flags only require one more supporter than detractor (you do mention this further down in the Yellow Flag section).

This post by @suchmoon is also interesting with regards to the colour displayed on the list of flag supporters and detractors:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51483048

I decided to do brief research into the new trust system, to make it easier for users to understand the system all in one thread.

All accounts referenced are only used for examples, and I do not support or oppose the accusations.

What are trust flags?

Trust flags were introduced to diversify the trust system.
Introductory thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trust-flags-5153344
And to warn members that a certain user may be a scammer and is alleged to have violated written or implied contracts.
The previous trust system would provide an evaluation of the trust history of a user. It would give a general perspective into the trustworthiness or otherwise of forum users.
The trust system can be used for negative, positive or neutral feedback. Trust flags are only for negative feedback. Trust can be deleted, flags cannot be once active.

Trust flags need at least three more members supporting than opposing for it to be active. Only supports from your trust group is counted, for guests, the default trust is used.

Types of flags
- Newbie warning flags: This is given based on evidence suggested by others about a users untrustworthiness i.e actions not directly connected to you.

It is displayed above the user's topics and is only visible to newbies guests and members with less than 7 days log in time. While other users only see '#' beside the user's trust score.
Let's consider this user, The-One-Above-All. The account got has a newbie warming flag displayed above his/her profile

-: Contract-violation flags: This is given based on activity directly connected with you. For example, user NLNico activated a flag on the user SafeDice and got more support than opposition (>3). The flag is displayed on the users' (alleged scammer) trust summary and also above his topics (visible to all members)
You can also access it through the sent feedback of NLNico

Logged out users would also get a warning

• Active flags display yellow color.
• Contract violation flags which includes a red trust displays red. And this activates the: "Warning: Trade with extreme caution" on the user's trust score
• Newbie warning flags above threads also displays in yellow and red colors.
• One can create both a newbie warning flag and a contract-violation flag
• You can not create a flag using a self-moderated thread as the link. It's also advisable to not use a post of the alleged scammer, rather archive the evidence, create a new post and link all the evidence there

Who can start a flag?

Anyone can start a newbie warning flag, it needs more supporters than opposers to be visible.

Anyone who is scammed by another user can also start a contract violation flag. You only view those created by users in your trust network. It needs at least three more supporters than opposers to be active.
Trusts flags can be created through a link on the users' profile
You should however be sure of your evidence before creating or supporting a flag;

How long would a flag be visible when active?

There are limits to flags created by a user:

Does the flag system invalidate all previous negative trusts?

Negative trusts from the pre-flag system are not converted to trusts flags but

Please drop your suggestions, additions and possible corrections.

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Useful links -
• LoyceV's (Personal) Trust Flag viewer [daily updates]

Translations -
• Pilipinas