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legendary
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December 19, 2016, 07:56:07 PM
#20
Religion of peace in full swing yet again.

The jihadi salafi lunatics are against the text of Quran, and for that reason muslims are fighting against ISIS.

 Andrey Karlov was in Turkey with legal mission and under Shariah Law he have a protection of the Turkish State on this territory.
Killing such person, is acting against the Shariah law and against the State of Turkey.
This is why salafi jihadists are illegal under the Shariah Law too.

You should burn all the Quran books, starting today.

This ideology should be outlawed.  I don't give a shit who is fighting who.  

The reasons we have terrorists attacks is because of the 6th century ideology.  You cannot escape this one.

Quran 2:191



While I understand where you're coming from, I disagree that we should start "burning Qurans" and "outlawing ideologies" , that's an authoritarian road that no-one needs to go down.

And actually, if you research this terrorist ideology, suicide bombings etc. you'll find it is in fact a very modern phenomenom. Much of it started in the mid 20th century with the Soviet/Mujahideen conflict, the Islamic uprising in Iran and the civil war in Lebanon.

All of which had significant American meddling involved... There's a strong case in fact that the arbitrary borders laid out after WW1 is a major cause of all of this Middle Eastern turmoil - in the centuries before they seemed to be doing a lot better there!

But yeah, I hate this terrorist bullshit too man, but it's a lot more complicated than some people realize.

You know, you have to start somewhere.

ALL of them shout "Allahu Akbar", not "Death to America!".

The link with the ISLAM religion is undeniable.  The guy SHOUTED why he did it.

The religion was used during colonial independence movements in Africa and Middle-East, I do understand this.

But now we have a problem.  Muslims have a problem.  We all have a problem.

Outlawing this ideology is better than executing all Muslims.  That is what ISIS is doing to Christians and Yazidis, or other
Muslim factions.

Islam needs to undergo some serious reformation or it will be destroyed from within.

I am surprised Muslims do not see this as a problem.

Do Muslims really expect the rest of the world to "submit" to this 6th century ideology, moral codes and Sharia Law?



legendary
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December 19, 2016, 07:47:23 PM
#17
but it's a lot more complicated than some people realize.

Exactly.
There is no secrets about Bin Laden role as the "Freedom Fighter" with the Money Rain from the CIA.


Yep, the CIA and MI6 relationship with Colonel Gaddafi is similar - sell guns/bombs to him when it suits them, then assassinate him when he becomes useless. The list goes on...

On topic, after seeing video footage and reading up on this shooting, I don't think we're looking at a typical "jihadist" attack. To me this seems much more like a political attack designed to upset Turkish/Russian relations, rather than any sort of ISIS type thing.
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December 19, 2016, 07:36:12 PM
#16
but it's a lot more complicated than some people realize.

Exactly.
There is no secrets about Bin Laden role as the "Freedom Fighter" with the Money Rain from the CIA.
legendary
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December 19, 2016, 07:28:15 PM
#15
Religion of peace in full swing yet again.

The jihadi salafi lunatics are against the text of Quran, and for that reason muslims are fighting against ISIS.

 Andrey Karlov was in Turkey with legal mission and under Shariah Law he have a protection of the Turkish State on this territory.
Killing such person, is acting against the Shariah law and against the State of Turkey.
This is why salafi jihadists are illegal under the Shariah Law too.

You should burn all the Quran books, starting today.

This ideology should be outlawed.  I don't give a shit who is fighting who.  

The reasons we have terrorists attacks is because of the 6th century ideology.  You cannot escape this one.

Quran 2:191



While I understand where you're coming from, I disagree that we should start "burning Qurans" and "outlawing ideologies" , that's an authoritarian road that no-one needs to go down.

And actually, if you research this terrorist ideology, suicide bombings etc. you'll find it is in fact a very modern phenomenom. Much of it started in the mid 20th century with the Soviet/Mujahideen conflict, the Islamic uprising in Iran and the civil war in Lebanon.

All of which had significant American meddling involved... There's a strong case in fact that the arbitrary borders laid out after WW1 is a major cause of all of this Middle Eastern turmoil - in the centuries before they seemed to be doing a lot better there!

But yeah, I hate this terrorist bullshit too man, but it's a lot more complicated than some people realize.
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December 19, 2016, 07:27:14 PM
#14
I think it's gonna be the break in the relationships between this two country for a while again.

Why?
There are other people wounded at the same place.
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December 19, 2016, 07:25:17 PM
#13
The ambassador is dead.

This is a very serious incident. This can result in a major diplomatic standoff. What aggravates the seriousness is the fact that the perpetrator is a Turkish police official.
Putin will be mad. I think it's gonna be the break in the relationships between this two country for a while again.
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December 19, 2016, 06:53:08 PM
#12
Quran 2:191



Ohh, You have start to reading some texts of Quran with have no idea about what it mean?
Why i need to burn it?

The reality of salafi jihadists is a low knowleage of Quran and of the Shariah Law.
They are gangsters with no respect to Quran.
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December 19, 2016, 06:28:19 PM
#11
Today we have some very tragic things first have news of this Ambassador killed in Ankara and later we have news Truck enter in Berlin market and killed some peoples not good going for big event in next week
legendary
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December 19, 2016, 06:22:53 PM
#10
rusia and USA is enemy, and like war
so in the world want acctack rusia and USA

Correction: it's the likes of you who want Russia and USA to be enemies
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December 19, 2016, 06:18:10 PM
#9
rusia and USA is enemy, and like war
so in the world want acctack rusia and USA
legendary
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December 19, 2016, 05:59:48 PM
#8
Russian Ambassador to Turkey Andrey Karlov Assassinated in Ankara! Cui Bono?
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/12/19/breaking-russian-ambassador-to-turkey-karlov-killed-in-ankara-qui-bono/



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The embassy row in Ankara, Turkey, is located near the government buildings, with the Russian embassy located very close to the US embassy. It is supposedly a heavily guarded, high security area; therefore, ambassadors themselves don’t carry much security.

This happens just one day before Turkish FM is scheduled to go to Moscow. This also happens as Russia attempts to enlist Turkey and Erdogan as mediators to help resolve the Syria and Aleppo crisis and to help convince some of the militants Turkey influences to lay down arms and/or withdraw from the area.

It is clear that the attack is designed to sabotage Russia-Turkey negotiations, rekindle distrust and animosity, and put a stop to the renewed Turkish Stream project.

CUI BONO?

First, who doesn’t benefit? Turkey and Erdogan, who just got the relations with Russia going again. After the downing of the Russian Su24 jet and killing of the Russian pilot, the relations soured, Russian tourism, imports and economic cooperation were withdrawn, creating massive crisis in Turkish economy. Russia also withdrew the Turkish Stream and Akkuyu nuclear plant projects.

After Putin helped Erdogan avert the CIA-organized military coup and Erdogan apologized for the Su24 incident, relations began to mend. The re-opening of the Russian tourism was announced and the Turkish Stream and Akkuyu nuclear plant projects are again a go.

At the same time, Turkey’s ambivalent role and contradictory actions in Syria have continued. Part of it is due to Erdogan’s war on Kurds, and part, the ‘protection of the so-called ‘Turkoman’ contingent, many of whom are part of the terrorist groups in Syria.

By inviting Turkey to play a mediator role and including Erdogan in the peace process in Syria, Russia attempts to change the game and shift the direction of Erdogan’s ambitions in the Middle East.

Ambassador Andrey Karlov was at the epicenter of these negotiations. It is clear that the forces who want to prevent the shift from happening are behind his killing. These same forces managed to derail cooperation and trust between Turkey and Russia by downing Su24 in 2015. Having succeeded then, they want to again try the same number.

The target is: sabotaging negotiations and reviving distrust. They hope that after the killing of the ambassador, Russia again withdraws from negotiations with Turkey on Syria. The game is even more insidious: those who organized this assassination also want Russia to withdraw YET AGAIN from the Turkish Stream.

Who benefits? This is the question we always have to answer in cases like this. Obviously, those who don’t want resolution of the Syria crisis, and those who don’t want Turkish Stream to go through.

These are ISIS and other extremist and militant Islamist groups in the Middle East. But it would be naive to think that such groups could easily infiltrate the high security government and embassy area. Someone who has easy access must help out.

What embassy is located next to the Russian ebassy? That of the USA. Who recently said that Trump is Putin’s agent; who has sour grapes after Russian wins in Syria, loss of their operatives and trained militans; who announced that Russians hacked into DNC and who is trying to push Hillary into the White House? The White House, Hillary/Soros/democrats, and the CIA: all those who are very well positioned to help out a willing terrorist, and who’ve been known to do so on many occasions.

There are also the following entities: Qatar, Saudi Arabia and, of course, the sold-out EU elites. Some, or all, of these are behind Karlov’s assassination.

There is also the issue of retaliation against Russia for the following:

1. Russian retaliation against the Aleppo Operations Room, executed after the US coalition attack on the Syrian army. Russian missile strike killed 30 Western, Israeli, Saudi, Qatari and Turkish officers, who were illegally directing the terrorist strikes against Syrian army.

2. As a result of the Syrian army liberating Aleppo, with Russian assistance, a number of Western coalition ISIS instructors and special troops were captured. Some of them were shown, with names announced – but not all. I got a word from the Russian side that some valuable US/Western assets have been kept behind the scenes as future bargaining chips. Details: Want to Support the Trump Electors? DNC Leak Source Angry Bernie Supporter, not Russia! Plus Aleppo Intel.

I would be amiss not to mention that the Kiev junta of Ukraine also benefits. After the Turkish Stream and Nord Stream 2 are finished, Ukraine will lose its Russian gas transiter status. This is also the reason the EU elites want to sabotage both Nord Stream and Turkish Stream.

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ADDED I: ‘We need to know who gave the orders’: Putin comments on ambassador assassination in Ankara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGRZspUHg08

ADDED II: We now have the video of the actual shooting of the Ambassador Karlov and of the assassin. Because it was international journalist-attended Russian photo exhibit opening, there were many cameras.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KcaZ5wlK7U

More analysis: https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/12/19/breaking-russian-ambassador-to-turkey-karlov-killed-in-ankara-qui-bono/

The subtext looks very much like the murder of Griboedov in Persia in 1828...
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December 19, 2016, 05:09:26 PM
#7
Religion of peace in full swing yet again.

The jihadi salafi lunatics are against the text of Quran, and for that reason muslims are fighting against ISIS.

 Andrey Karlov was in Turkey with legal mission and under Shariah Law he have a protection of the Turkish State on this territory.
Killing such person, is acting against the Shariah law and against the State of Turkey.
This is why salafi jihadists are illegal under the Shariah Law too.
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December 19, 2016, 04:04:12 PM
#6
The reason of killing this Russian Ufficial is the action of Russian Government in Syria.


Really?  So why did he yell "Allahu Akbar"?


Now its common business after doing killings like this crying Allah Akbar they need to spread hate and want to sell more Arms and Ammunition's feeling sad for Late Ambassador and his family   
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December 19, 2016, 03:15:04 PM
#5
Religion of peace in full swing yet again.
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December 19, 2016, 03:05:05 PM
#4
The reason of killing this Russian Ufficial is the action of Russian Government in Syria.
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December 19, 2016, 02:57:42 PM
#3
i think russia is clever enough to realise the guy might have been acting from personal beliefs rather than being sent there with the prime minister's blessing.
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December 19, 2016, 01:39:15 PM
#2
The ambassador is dead.

This is a very serious incident. This can result in a major diplomatic standoff. What aggravates the seriousness is the fact that the perpetrator is a Turkish police official.
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December 19, 2016, 01:23:55 PM
#1
The Russian envoy to Turkey, Andrey Karlov, was wounded after a gunman stormed into a building where the opening ceremony of a Russian photo exhibition was being held. The gunman is dead, Turkish NTV broadcaster reports and the

Article from RT : https://www.rt.com/news/370782-attack-russian-ambassador-ankara/

Putin won't be happy about this , this is for sure.





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