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July 21, 2017, 01:48:12 AM
#85
This is not an ISIS doing. If it is he would shot every person he sees, but not right? This is just a one person who wants to rob Resorts World but did not succeed.
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June 25, 2017, 01:30:44 AM
#84
Pulse in Orlando suddenly comes to mind. Heck, even if you were just tanning on the beach, that already infuriates them. Just look at the bombing in Bali.

And that was already in the less conservative area, which was traditionally Hindu. I remember when Indonesia hosted Miss World, they have to move it to Bali from some other city to avoid protesters. The world is becoming more fundamentalist.

Indonesia is a classic example of how the Saudi petrodollars have converted a peaceful moderate Muslim-majority nation to a heaven for religious fanatics. The ISIS is also trying to get a foothold there.

We just hope that ISIS will not get a hold of Indonesia. I haven't heard any news though regarding ISIS movement there.

Indonesia is having the largest Muslim population in the world, although the Muslims there are more moderate when compared to those in Arabia, India.etc. Such a region will never escape attention from the ISIS. They will try hard to create chaos there, although it is too early to say whether they will be successful or not.
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June 24, 2017, 07:07:21 PM
#83
It was death caused by panic and chaos. If you think about it, the people that rushed outside probably care more about themselves, and that's just human nature. It would be hard to change that but sometimes there would be people who are altruistic in nature. It's really senseless and I've heard in the news that some funeral homes took advantage of it, and that's just greediness I think.

I think the death are not just about the panic and chaos, it is about hiw the buildings so closed that there are no way people can get out, which I think is not a good part of the building, as you've know, people mostly died because of suffocation.
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June 24, 2017, 05:58:10 PM
#82
Pulse in Orlando suddenly comes to mind. Heck, even if you were just tanning on the beach, that already infuriates them. Just look at the bombing in Bali.

And that was already in the less conservative area, which was traditionally Hindu. I remember when Indonesia hosted Miss World, they have to move it to Bali from some other city to avoid protesters. The world is becoming more fundamentalist.

Indonesia is a classic example of how the Saudi petrodollars have converted a peaceful moderate Muslim-majority nation to a heaven for religious fanatics. The ISIS is also trying to get a foothold there.

We just hope that ISIS will not get a hold of Indonesia. I haven't heard any news though regarding ISIS movement there. But going back to the Philippines, I think ISIS are really trying hard to get their hands and established themselves here. The government is really getting its hands full of protecting us. Malls, Airports and Business District and all other places are being carefully guarded by the police so prevent another bombing or attacks by this group. We really need to be vigilant nowadays and be careful not to go out at night. They are really sowing terror in our country.

If ISIS will be setting their foot and making a base there, obviously the Indonesian Government will be taking them down, and I think Philippines will be helping them because if they set a base there,Philippines will be in a bad situation.
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June 24, 2017, 07:36:05 AM
#81
Pulse in Orlando suddenly comes to mind. Heck, even if you were just tanning on the beach, that already infuriates them. Just look at the bombing in Bali.

And that was already in the less conservative area, which was traditionally Hindu. I remember when Indonesia hosted Miss World, they have to move it to Bali from some other city to avoid protesters. The world is becoming more fundamentalist.

Indonesia is a classic example of how the Saudi petrodollars have converted a peaceful moderate Muslim-majority nation to a heaven for religious fanatics. The ISIS is also trying to get a foothold there.

We just hope that ISIS will not get a hold of Indonesia. I haven't heard any news though regarding ISIS movement there. But going back to the Philippines, I think ISIS are really trying hard to get their hands and established themselves here. The government is really getting its hands full of protecting us. Malls, Airports and Business District and all other places are being carefully guarded by the police so prevent another bombing or attacks by this group. We really need to be vigilant nowadays and be careful not to go out at night. They are really sowing terror in our country.
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June 24, 2017, 12:59:28 AM
#80
Pulse in Orlando suddenly comes to mind. Heck, even if you were just tanning on the beach, that already infuriates them. Just look at the bombing in Bali.

And that was already in the less conservative area, which was traditionally Hindu. I remember when Indonesia hosted Miss World, they have to move it to Bali from some other city to avoid protesters. The world is becoming more fundamentalist.

Indonesia is a classic example of how the Saudi petrodollars have converted a peaceful moderate Muslim-majority nation to a heaven for religious fanatics. The ISIS is also trying to get a foothold there.
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June 23, 2017, 03:37:39 AM
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It was death caused by panic and chaos. If you think about it, the people that rushed outside probably care more about themselves, and that's just human nature. It would be hard to change that but sometimes there would be people who are altruistic in nature. It's really senseless and I've heard in the news that some funeral homes took advantage of it, and that's just greediness I think.
Truly panic and chaos are the main cause of death of those people. To add, according to the news and other resources. No one died due to Gunshot. About the funeral homes they held the corpses in days due to the reason that the management of RWM didn't coordinate it with them. But according to RWM, They already gives out the go signal for the transfer of the bodies. It's so sad to watch that the Families of those victims waited for 3-4 days and some are begging just to let them to transfer their son, daughter, relative from their selected funeral services. This is purely insane and inhuman.
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June 20, 2017, 02:11:20 PM
#78
It was death caused by panic and chaos. If you think about it, the people that rushed outside probably care more about themselves, and that's just human nature. It would be hard to change that but sometimes there would be people who are altruistic in nature. It's really senseless and I've heard in the news that some funeral homes took advantage of it, and that's just greediness I think.

Maybe I wasn't just watching news, never heard of this. If this was true, then this was awful.  Embarrassed

Just what I have said before, this is a casino, the security here should be tighter than a bank. And PAGCOR has released a memo after the Marawi siege that they should increased their security because of the incident. But RW did not head this call and they are still manning security at the entrance with no guns. Heck they will frisk your balls to see if you have carrying something with you, but when the gunman arrived with guns blazing, what did they do? They all run to save their sorry asses. That's why people lost their lives here.

True. PAGCOR released that memo knowing that casinos, along with hotels, bars, beach resorts and theaters, are favorite targets of Islamists. Resorts World is a premiere hotel/casino, and probably one of the high-end in the industry here before the entry of competitors like City of Dreams. There was no excuse for them to not immediately heed the memo.

Adding to that, there were similar incidents just a few months back. Remember the ISIS attack on the Reina nightclub in Istanbul? The Islamists are frequently targeting places such as bars and nightclubs, where they think that "immoral" activities are going on.

Pulse in Orlando suddenly comes to mind. Heck, even if you were just tanning on the beach, that already infuriates them. Just look at the bombing in Bali.

And that was already in the less conservative area, which was traditionally Hindu. I remember when Indonesia hosted Miss World, they have to move it to Bali from some other city to avoid protesters. The world is becoming more fundamentalist.
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June 19, 2017, 03:05:14 AM
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It was death caused by panic and chaos. If you think about it, the people that rushed outside probably care more about themselves, and that's just human nature. It would be hard to change that but sometimes there would be people who are altruistic in nature. It's really senseless and I've heard in the news that some funeral homes took advantage of it, and that's just greediness I think.
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June 18, 2017, 09:50:28 PM
#76
Just what I have said before, this is a casino, the security here should be tighter than a bank. And PAGCOR has released a memo after the Marawi siege that they should increased their security because of the incident. But RW did not head this call and they are still manning security at the entrance with no guns. Heck they will frisk your balls to see if you have carrying something with you, but when the gunman arrived with guns blazing, what did they do? They all run to save their sorry asses. That's why people lost their lives here.

True. PAGCOR released that memo knowing that casinos, along with hotels, bars, beach resorts and theaters, are favorite targets of Islamists. Resorts World is a premiere hotel/casino, and probably one of the high-end in the industry here before the entry of competitors like City of Dreams. There was no excuse for them to not immediately heed the memo.

Adding to that, there were similar incidents just a few months back. Remember the ISIS attack on the Reina nightclub in Istanbul? The Islamists are frequently targeting places such as bars and nightclubs, where they think that "immoral" activities are going on.
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June 18, 2017, 05:04:05 PM
#75
Just what I have said before, this is a casino, the security here should be tighter than a bank. And PAGCOR has released a memo after the Marawi siege that they should increased their security because of the incident. But RW did not head this call and they are still manning security at the entrance with no guns. Heck they will frisk your balls to see if you have carrying something with you, but when the gunman arrived with guns blazing, what did they do? They all run to save their sorry asses. That's why people lost their lives here.

True. PAGCOR released that memo knowing that casinos, along with hotels, bars, beach resorts and theaters, are favorite targets of Islamists. Resorts World is a premiere hotel/casino, and probably one of the high-end in the industry here before the entry of competitors like City of Dreams. There was no excuse for them to not immediately heed the memo.
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June 18, 2017, 04:36:04 PM
#74
The gunman was just from our place, he was actually a man known for gambling and he was a bigtime gambler. He was left by her wife and 2 kids for his doings. I think his life become miserable since then he should have been good for those days he was with his family. I felt sad for this man but those who was killed by his actions they need justice.

Just to add. The gunman used to work for Department of Finance. Where he was fired due to wrong declaration and unexplained details of Statement of Assets, Liabilities, and Net Worth. Also, according to one of my friend *who is a dealer at RWM* the gunman was a good and generous man. He's a good tipper according to my friend. But, Gambling is gambling. Due to his addiction, I think at some point he loan from a person *syndicate* or high roller but unfortunately he lost it all. His actions are purely an act of desperation. He is so desperate to regain what he lost and at the same time to repay what he loan. But, the funny thing here is that he walks freely in the entrance and into a room where they store the chips. Not to jump in to conclusion, What I see here is that he might have an accomplice and the heist against RWM *this is just my theory on what happen*.

My condolences to the family. They might be alive if RWM securities and PNP took into consideration all the information given to them by the survivors.
I hope that the families of whom killed at RW attack, Will get what's right for them.


That is what I'm saying all along. If Resorts World security was quick enough to response to this kind of situation, lives could have been saved. I haven't followed the story this past few days as I was out busy with other things, but I saw a glimpse from the news the other day and the lady guard who is manning her post in the entrance and try to stop the man, said that he radio for help. But then when everything breaks lose, even the personnel who is manning the "eye in the sky" ran. So when the police arrived, there was no one to talk to and see where the person is at the very moment. That is why I'm so frustrating and ranting about the security of the casino. Good thing I don't frequent RW anymore and moved to City of Dreams (COD) or Solaire.



With the amount of money at various casinos, i think they should be allowed security to fully repel attacks from armed individuals, if these kind of security is approved, no one will dare rob a casino.

Just what I have said before, this is a casino, the security here should be tighter than a bank. And PAGCOR has released a memo after the Marawi siege that they should increased their security because of the incident. But RW did not head this call and they are still manning security at the entrance with no guns. Heck they will frisk your balls to see if you have carrying something with you, but when the gunman arrived with guns blazing, what did they do? They all run to save their sorry asses. That's why people lost their lives here.
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June 17, 2017, 04:41:09 PM
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The gunman was just from our place, he was actually a man known for gambling and he was a bigtime gambler. He was left by her wife and 2 kids for his doings. I think his life become miserable since then he should have been good for those days he was with his family. I felt sad for this man but those who was killed by his actions they need justice.

Just to add. The gunman used to work for Department of Finance. Where he was fired due to wrong declaration and unexplained details of Statement of Assets, Liabilities, and Net Worth. Also, according to one of my friend *who is a dealer at RWM* the gunman was a good and generous man. He's a good tipper according to my friend. But, Gambling is gambling. Due to his addiction, I think at some point he loan from a person *syndicate* or high roller but unfortunately he lost it all. His actions are purely an act of desperation. He is so desperate to regain what he lost and at the same time to repay what he loan. But, the funny thing here is that he walks freely in the entrance and into a room where they store the chips. Not to jump in to conclusion, What I see here is that he might have an accomplice and the heist against RWM *this is just my theory on what happen*.

My condolences to the family. They might be alive if RWM securities and PNP took into consideration all the information given to them by the survivors.
I hope that the families of whom killed at RW attack, Will get what's right for them.


That is what I'm saying all along. If Resorts World security was quick enough to response to this kind of situation, lives could have been saved. I haven't followed the story this past few days as I was out busy with other things, but I saw a glimpse from the news the other day and the lady guard who is manning her post in the entrance and try to stop the man, said that he radio for help. But then when everything breaks lose, even the personnel who is manning the "eye in the sky" ran. So when the police arrived, there was no one to talk to and see where the person is at the very moment. That is why I'm so frustrating and ranting about the security of the casino. Good thing I don't frequent RW anymore and moved to City of Dreams (COD) or Solaire.



With the amount of money at various casinos, i think they should be allowed security to fully repel attacks from armed individuals, if these kind of security is approved, no one will dare rob a casino.
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June 17, 2017, 04:35:05 PM
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The gunman was just from our place, he was actually a man known for gambling and he was a bigtime gambler. He was left by her wife and 2 kids for his doings. I think his life become miserable since then he should have been good for those days he was with his family. I felt sad for this man but those who was killed by his actions they need justice.
This is so true now.
Gambling can ruin your life and your entire families lives if not put some sort of control to it.
Because obviously people are not capable of controlling their bad habits such as this one on their own.
They all need help before it gets to far like this has shown as a tragic example for all to witness around the world. Embarrassed

Gambling is just like drug addiction. We all know that it is bad, but it is not possible to stop it completely. If the government bans it, then the gambling scene will move underground. In the end, there will be zero benefits, and the government will lose valuable tax money. Also, if it moves to the grey zone, then the gambling sector becomes very difficult to monitor.
A grey zone?
Well it shouldn't be then and all casinos AROUND THE GLOBE should be regulated due to this incident having happened and innocent lives lost. And no matter if they are trying to hide from the laws with positioning themselves in places that their govenrments turn a blind eye too like in Montenegro or Central America where they are not paying any sort of taxes thus not being regulated.
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June 16, 2017, 03:23:56 PM
#71
The gunman was just from our place, he was actually a man known for gambling and he was a bigtime gambler. He was left by her wife and 2 kids for his doings. I think his life become miserable since then he should have been good for those days he was with his family. I felt sad for this man but those who was killed by his actions they need justice.
This is so true now.
Gambling can ruin your life and your entire families lives if not put some sort of control to it.
Because obviously people are not capable of controlling their bad habits such as this one on their own.
They all need help before it gets to far like this has shown as a tragic example for all to witness around the world. Embarrassed

Gambling is just like drug addiction. We all know that it is bad, but it is not possible to stop it completely. If the government bans it, then the gambling scene will move underground. In the end, there will be zero benefits, and the government will lose valuable tax money. Also, if it moves to the grey zone, then the gambling sector becomes very difficult to monitor.
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June 16, 2017, 12:59:49 PM
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The gunman was just from our place, he was actually a man known for gambling and he was a bigtime gambler. He was left by her wife and 2 kids for his doings. I think his life become miserable since then he should have been good for those days he was with his family. I felt sad for this man but those who was killed by his actions they need justice.

Just to add. The gunman used to work for Department of Finance. Where he was fired due to wrong declaration and unexplained details of Statement of Assets, Liabilities, and Net Worth. Also, according to one of my friend *who is a dealer at RWM* the gunman was a good and generous man. He's a good tipper according to my friend. But, Gambling is gambling. Due to his addiction, I think at some point he loan from a person *syndicate* or high roller but unfortunately he lost it all. His actions are purely an act of desperation. He is so desperate to regain what he lost and at the same time to repay what he loan. But, the funny thing here is that he walks freely in the entrance and into a room where they store the chips. Not to jump in to conclusion, What I see here is that he might have an accomplice and the heist against RWM *this is just my theory on what happen*.

My condolences to the family. They might be alive if RWM securities and PNP took into consideration all the information given to them by the survivors.
I hope that the families of whom killed at RW attack, Will get what's right for them.


That is what I'm saying all along. If Resorts World security was quick enough to response to this kind of situation, lives could have been saved. I haven't followed the story this past few days as I was out busy with other things, but I saw a glimpse from the news the other day and the lady guard who is manning her post in the entrance and try to stop the man, said that he radio for help. But then when everything breaks lose, even the personnel who is manning the "eye in the sky" ran. So when the police arrived, there was no one to talk to and see where the person is at the very moment. That is why I'm so frustrating and ranting about the security of the casino. Good thing I don't frequent RW anymore and moved to City of Dreams (COD) or Solaire.

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June 16, 2017, 11:24:18 AM
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The gunman was just from our place, he was actually a man known for gambling and he was a bigtime gambler. He was left by her wife and 2 kids for his doings. I think his life become miserable since then he should have been good for those days he was with his family. I felt sad for this man but those who was killed by his actions they need justice.

Just to add. The gunman used to work for Department of Finance. Where he was fired due to wrong declaration and unexplained details of Statement of Assets, Liabilities, and Net Worth. Also, according to one of my friend *who is a dealer at RWM* the gunman was a good and generous man. He's a good tipper according to my friend. But, Gambling is gambling. Due to his addiction, I think at some point he loan from a person *syndicate* or high roller but unfortunately he lost it all. His actions are purely an act of desperation. He is so desperate to regain what he lost and at the same time to repay what he loan. But, the funny thing here is that he walks freely in the entrance and into a room where they store the chips. Not to jump in to conclusion, What I see here is that he might have an accomplice and the heist against RWM *this is just my theory on what happen*.

My condolences to the family. They might be alive if RWM securities and PNP took into consideration all the information given to them by the survivors.
I hope that the families of whom killed at RW attack, Will get what's right for them.
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June 15, 2017, 12:15:59 PM
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The gunman was just from our place, he was actually a man known for gambling and he was a bigtime gambler. He was left by her wife and 2 kids for his doings. I think his life become miserable since then he should have been good for those days he was with his family. I felt sad for this man but those who was killed by his actions they need justice.
This is so true now.
Gambling can ruin your life and your entire families lives if not put some sort of control to it.
Because obviously people are not capable of controlling their bad habits such as this one on their own.
They all need help before it gets to far like this has shown as a tragic example for all to witness around the world. Embarrassed
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June 11, 2017, 12:58:25 PM
#67
The gunman was just from our place, he was actually a man known for gambling and he was a bigtime gambler. He was left by her wife and 2 kids for his doings. I think his life become miserable since then he should have been good for those days he was with his family. I felt sad for this man but those who was killed by his actions they need justice.
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June 11, 2017, 11:52:47 AM
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I still think that it wasn't a terrorist act because from my understanding, the gunman did not attempt to shoot at the civilians. Also, he tried to steal approximately 13 million worth of casino chips. What was the use of stealing the chips? He was probably so depressed from the lost that he went his hysterical. It was obviously planned because he intended to burn the tables and himself, and even got a hotel room nearby. A terrorist act would have killed much more individuals, with the intention to scare the public.

This event however shows how the mall had poor fire safety and protection because many died from suffocation.

Its was not a terrorist act at all. It's just a coincidence that it happened after the siege in Marawi. Yeah, a lot of civilians died because of suffocation, Resort Worlds permit has been cancelled already by the Pagcor. Insider Information: I have a nephew who now works with Pagcor (Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation)and he say's that it released a memo telling all casino's operated should tighten their security because of what happened to Marawi. But I guess RW didn't heed the call. If they just have tightened their security, lives should not have been lost in this tragedy. And speaking of  the chips, it will be no used to say to steal them, why? because the casino will change it anyway, and the chips that have been stolen should be of no used.

Right now, it seems like the attacker was not connected to any of the major terrorist organizations. But some questions still remain unanswered. How did this guy managed to get a machine gun? Are guns so easily available in the Philippines?
It's now certain that the gunman is just a guy that went nuts after losing a big amount. Linking him to any terror group like isis has been put out of the question and it seems obvious that there are no intentions to kill people. There have been released security videos that can clearly give anyone an idea of what really happened. And the guy apparently lose millions in a casino so he may have been well-off prior to that for him to be able to purchase a high powered fire arm.

It is sad that it have to end that way.  He was a gambling addict and no one have stopped him that attitude.  I think, his family have a greater reaponsibility beyond any other because they are the one who should give strong advice to fathers who have been a victim of addiction.  Nobone was there during the dark times of his life.  Terrorism should not be linked here, it was a purely addiction made by a certain man.
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June 11, 2017, 10:53:03 AM
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I still think that it wasn't a terrorist act because from my understanding, the gunman did not attempt to shoot at the civilians. Also, he tried to steal approximately 13 million worth of casino chips. What was the use of stealing the chips? He was probably so depressed from the lost that he went his hysterical. It was obviously planned because he intended to burn the tables and himself, and even got a hotel room nearby. A terrorist act would have killed much more individuals, with the intention to scare the public.

This event however shows how the mall had poor fire safety and protection because many died from suffocation.

Its was not a terrorist act at all. It's just a coincidence that it happened after the siege in Marawi. Yeah, a lot of civilians died because of suffocation, Resort Worlds permit has been cancelled already by the Pagcor. Insider Information: I have a nephew who now works with Pagcor (Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation)and he say's that it released a memo telling all casino's operated should tighten their security because of what happened to Marawi. But I guess RW didn't heed the call. If they just have tightened their security, lives should not have been lost in this tragedy. And speaking of  the chips, it will be no used to say to steal them, why? because the casino will change it anyway, and the chips that have been stolen should be of no used.

Right now, it seems like the attacker was not connected to any of the major terrorist organizations. But some questions still remain unanswered. How did this guy managed to get a machine gun? Are guns so easily available in the Philippines?
It's now certain that the gunman is just a guy that went nuts after losing a big amount. Linking him to any terror group like isis has been put out of the question and it seems obvious that there are no intentions to kill people. There have been released security videos that can clearly give anyone an idea of what really happened. And the guy apparently lose millions in a casino so he may have been well-off prior to that for him to be able to purchase a high powered fire arm.
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June 11, 2017, 10:23:53 AM
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I think its not ISIS because if it is ISIS then he hostage the civilian. Its like the gunmen has lost ing the gambling that is why He that terrible thing in his life. I guess Philippines must be vigilant and security in the philippines must be on tight to avoid that it is not happening again.

These will be a lesson to all kind of public buildings and also for Filipinos, including me. Security's job is to secure an area, to surpress these kinds of incidents to happen, but from what happened yesterday, they didn't do that.

Praying for those who died. That gunman is not yet known but confirmed as not a Filipino. The media said that this guy is in high with alcohol. Many of the people in second floor had a stampede. And this person burned the whole second floor and many of the people died because of sufocation.

The news and reports did not include the guy being drunk, they just had a conclusion based on some witnesses that the guy suffer from Mental disorder.

Philippines now experineced many destroyer. I hope as soon as possible all bad people and terorist die because many innocent people die because of them. I see the news that the resort world manila have many killed people. I hope philippines will go backa again into the peace country. I dont know why those people are still killing people . What did they get if they do this? Dont have. 

Islamic terrorism is affecting every nook and corner of the world. No one is safe from this terror. Non-Muslims need to unite against this common enemy. It doesn't matter whether you are a Christian, or a Hindu, or a Buddhist. If we don't unite, then this catastrophe will destroy all of us.

There are new updates saying that the terrorist confirmed the attack, we still don't know the truth,but all we know is these guy did not shoot people, did not take any hostages, stole some chips and commits suicide.

The Philippine National Police believed it was not the ISIS responsible for the attack. They believed that the gunman has a psychological issue. He is a former employee of Resorts World Manila and has a serious gambling addiction, but still there are hearings and investigation about the crime. So we better watch for more details so we can be more prepare for our safety.
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June 11, 2017, 12:16:46 AM
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I still think that it wasn't a terrorist act because from my understanding, the gunman did not attempt to shoot at the civilians. Also, he tried to steal approximately 13 million worth of casino chips. What was the use of stealing the chips? He was probably so depressed from the lost that he went his hysterical. It was obviously planned because he intended to burn the tables and himself, and even got a hotel room nearby. A terrorist act would have killed much more individuals, with the intention to scare the public.

This event however shows how the mall had poor fire safety and protection because many died from suffocation.

Its was not a terrorist act at all. It's just a coincidence that it happened after the siege in Marawi. Yeah, a lot of civilians died because of suffocation, Resort Worlds permit has been cancelled already by the Pagcor. Insider Information: I have a nephew who now works with Pagcor (Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation)and he say's that it released a memo telling all casino's operated should tighten their security because of what happened to Marawi. But I guess RW didn't heed the call. If they just have tightened their security, lives should not have been lost in this tragedy. And speaking of  the chips, it will be no used to say to steal them, why? because the casino will change it anyway, and the chips that have been stolen should be of no used.

Right now, it seems like the attacker was not connected to any of the major terrorist organizations. But some questions still remain unanswered. How did this guy managed to get a machine gun? Are guns so easily available in the Philippines?
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June 10, 2017, 09:47:03 PM
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I still think that it wasn't a terrorist act because from my understanding, the gunman did not attempt to shoot at the civilians. Also, he tried to steal approximately 13 million worth of casino chips. What was the use of stealing the chips? He was probably so depressed from the lost that he went his hysterical. It was obviously planned because he intended to burn the tables and himself, and even got a hotel room nearby. A terrorist act would have killed much more individuals, with the intention to scare the public.

This event however shows how the mall had poor fire safety and protection because many died from suffocation.

Its was not a terrorist act at all. It's just a coincidence that it happened after the siege in Marawi. Yeah, a lot of civilians died because of suffocation, Resort Worlds permit has been cancelled already by the Pagcor. Insider Information: I have a nephew who now works with Pagcor (Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation)and he say's that it released a memo telling all casino's operated should tighten their security because of what happened to Marawi. But I guess RW didn't heed the call. If they just have tightened their security, lives should not have been lost in this tragedy. And speaking of  the chips, it will be no used to say to steal them, why? because the casino will change it anyway, and the chips that have been stolen should be of no used.
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June 10, 2017, 10:59:36 AM
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I still think that it wasn't a terrorist act because from my understanding, the gunman did not attempt to shoot at the civilians. Also, he tried to steal approximately 13 million worth of casino chips. What was the use of stealing the chips? He was probably so depressed from the lost that he went his hysterical. It was obviously planned because he intended to burn the tables and himself, and even got a hotel room nearby. A terrorist act would have killed much more individuals, with the intention to scare the public.

This event however shows how the mall had poor fire safety and protection because many died from suffocation.
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June 10, 2017, 10:35:57 AM
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Do not believe everything that ISIS claim, they just want to spread terror and power - the man has become a lunatic, he got so addicted with gambling his family decided to talk to the casinos and banned him from playing. Man went full nuts and started to cause chaos. Damn look what being addictive in gambling can lead you.

It was really quite funny how ISIS was quick to jump into the situation taking responsibility for what was happening even before any legitimate information was out. Goes to show that they would do anything just to be feared even stooping down to the pathetic level of acknowledging things not even connected to them. They didn't release any statements anymore when it was proven that it was a lone casino addict gone mad.
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when people heard some gunshots. a moron people yell "ISIS is attacking". so everybody inside in resorts world manila panic. the resorts world manila also lack of exit.so they chose to hide in a safe place than to escape. so many people  got stuck and suffocate. so many die sad life

All the casinos are like that. There will be only one small entrance to the main hall, and even entry to that door will be strictly monitored and regulated. It is mostly for safety purposes, and to prevent robberies.

Wow, so the casinos are just monitoring strictly their entrances and exits when someone yells "ISIS is attacking?", that is nonsense. In fact even they are monitoring the entrance, the Gunman entered the buildih and started these incident where many senseless death happened.

Yes. The one that guard the entrance has no gun. He/She was just there to monitor the people entering. So when she saw the gunman she just ran. But want I don't understand is that why is the casino security was too late to stop the gunman? That's why I still believed that RW is liable to this accidents. And I think the victim's relatives are going to file a class suit against the casino. The many deaths should have prevented, if they are quick to react.
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June 08, 2017, 11:36:05 PM
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Do not believe everything that ISIS claim, they just want to spread terror and power - the man has become a lunatic, he got so addicted with gambling his family decided to talk to the casinos and banned him from playing. Man went full nuts and started to cause chaos. Damn look what being addictive in gambling can lead you.
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Wow, so the casinos are just monitoring strictly their entrances and exits when someone yells "ISIS is attacking?", that is nonsense. In fact even they are monitoring the entrance, the Gunman entered the buildih and started these incident where many senseless death happened.

I don't think that they have any choice. The casino chips can be worth up to tens of thousands of USD. What happens if someone creates a melee, and flees with a few dozen casino chips? That is why the entrance and exit is under tight control and monitoring.
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June 08, 2017, 10:20:39 PM
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when people heard some gunshots. a moron people yell "ISIS is attacking". so everybody inside in resorts world manila panic. the resorts world manila also lack of exit.so they chose to hide in a safe place than to escape. so many people  got stuck and suffocate. so many die sad life

So much for the "be calm every emergency situation". Most Filipinos are scared of such thing, attacks, bombings even killings and crimes. Philippines is a peaceful country to begin with, they don't like people being killed, that is the reasin they panicked. Security is the reason why these incident happen, and we can blame the building for having a closed room without exits.
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June 07, 2017, 05:38:18 AM
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when people heard some gunshots. a moron people yell "ISIS is attacking". so everybody inside in resorts world manila panic. the resorts world manila also lack of exit.so they chose to hide in a safe place than to escape. so many people  got stuck and suffocate. so many die sad life

All the casinos are like that. There will be only one small entrance to the main hall, and even entry to that door will be strictly monitored and regulated. It is mostly for safety purposes, and to prevent robberies.

Wow, so the casinos are just monitoring strictly their entrances and exits when someone yells "ISIS is attacking?", that is nonsense. In fact even they are monitoring the entrance, the Gunman entered the buildih and started these incident where many senseless death happened.
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June 06, 2017, 10:14:42 PM
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when people heard some gunshots. a moron people yell "ISIS is attacking". so everybody inside in resorts world manila panic. the resorts world manila also lack of exit.so they chose to hide in a safe place than to escape. so many people  got stuck and suffocate. so many die sad life

All the casinos are like that. There will be only one small entrance to the main hall, and even entry to that door will be strictly monitored and regulated. It is mostly for safety purposes, and to prevent robberies.
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June 06, 2017, 07:37:32 PM
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when people heard some gunshots. a moron people yell "ISIS is attacking". so everybody inside in resorts world manila panic. the resorts world manila also lack of exit.so they chose to hide in a safe place than to escape. so many people  got stuck and suffocate. so many die sad life

That is the reason why our President, President Rodrigo Duterte ask the RWM, why there are no exits especially on VIP rooms where most of the people died. And we all know how presumptuous Filipino is, and that is the reason for more panic. We can't literally calm down in these kind of situations, the reason why there are stampedes.
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when people heard some gunshots. a moron people yell "ISIS is attacking". so everybody inside in resorts world manila panic. the resorts world manila also lack of exit.so they chose to hide in a safe place than to escape. so many people  got stuck and suffocate. so many die sad life
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People are stupid sometimes, just because Mindanao is under martial law, they think that the gunman in the resorts world incident is a member of ISIS. Please, for nth time, he is not a terrorist , he is just an addict of gambling according to his mother.

People just want to link every crimes to the terrorist group ISIS or everything like that be linked to terrorist.  Yes maybe because of what is happening right now in Mindanao.  Even the local news associated this act as made by terrorist.  I do not know maybe just to frighten people and make a bad image to the other country.  They want to blame the government maybe for negligence.  But as you said, it was purely done by a gambling addict.

We can't blame them, from what is happening here in the Philippines,  they will be really saying those things. Me, as a Filipino, after hearing it for the first time, I thought it is a terrorist attack, but I did not rant about it, I just watch and knew that it is not a terrorist attack based on the Police. Let other people say what they want to, because no matter what they've said, the officers will be the one investigating the incident not them.
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People are stupid sometimes, just because Mindanao is under martial law, they think that the gunman in the resorts world incident is a member of ISIS. Please, for nth time, he is not a terrorist , he is just an addict of gambling according to his mother.

People just want to link every crimes to the terrorist group ISIS or everything like that be linked to terrorist.  Yes maybe because of what is happening right now in Mindanao.  Even the local news associated this act as made by terrorist.  I do not know maybe just to frighten people and make a bad image to the other country.  They want to blame the government maybe for negligence.  But as you said, it was purely done by a gambling addict.
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People are stupid sometimes, just because Mindanao is under martial law, they think that the gunman in the resorts world incident is a member of ISIS. Please, for nth time, he is not a terrorist , he is just an addict of gambling according to his mother.
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June 06, 2017, 05:19:11 AM
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A guy equipped with a  "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.


Condolences to the families of those who died. I agree. I don't see any sense in what the gunman did. News say that the gunman may be a unhinged and is in a big debt because of casino addiction. Obviously this is not connected to ISIS contrary to what they say. This is the work of a desperate man who went crazy because of money and greed.

Precisely.

This is what moral vacuum does to you - make you a victim of various addictions. When the man lost his false god in form of money, his life had ended. We can only speculate, if the outcome could be different from the moment he decided to fill hole in his heart with paper.

Ultimately, every man is responsible for his own choices. Good and bad.
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June 06, 2017, 04:54:47 AM
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A guy equipped with a  "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.

A crazy guy, after giving fear to the gamblers there in the end he did suicide. That's what I'm saying, don't take gambling literally.

He is not crazy, he is just depressed on what is happening in his life. Having a big debt, losing your insurance and stuffs, that is really so depressing. We can't blame the casino or gambling, they are not the main reason why he is addicted to it, it is himself that brought his self to these. I think he is not ready to consequences that he will face because of his addiction.
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A guy equipped with a  "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.

A crazy guy, after giving fear to the gamblers there in the end he did suicide. That's what I'm saying, don't take gambling literally.
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A guy equipped with a  "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.


Condolences to the families of those who died. I agree. I don't see any sense in what the gunman did. News say that the gunman may be a unhinged and is in a big debt because of casino addiction. Obviously this is not connected to ISIS contrary to what they say. This is the work of a desperate man who went crazy because of money and greed.
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June 05, 2017, 06:21:24 PM
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Just saw the CCTV clips from Resorts World. Gunman burned those luxury tables and slots machines. This is the first time I saw what's inside the casino and Im really stunned with those luxuries. But all those things turned to ashes. At the end of the clip, the gunman I think was shot by a person that is standing on the fire exit where the suspect go just few minutes ago before the arrival of the backups. They both surprised when they see each other. Hopefully they have the CCTV of gunman entering the room where he burned himself so that we can know that this is not his double and he is really the one who burned.

Some people are retarded questioning how the gunman entered the building with a gun without them realizing that as soon as the gunman entered the building, he is already on attack mode exactly at the entrance. What do you expect for those people in charge, will talked to this guy? Good thing they run so they report it quick to the authorities.

If you are not familiar with RW Manila, then before you can enter, its still a long walk before the actual casino entrance. I haven't seen the video's yet. But If I'm assuming he used the main entrance, there are already security personnel there, frisking you checking your bags and even a metal detectors before you can finally go to the casino proper. Even if you used the second floor entrance, security was there. If they were able to frisk him and see that he has a gun, then the casualties can be lessen I think. I don't know if this is the worst casino attack on recorded history. Main thing though is that the security in front don't have guns. All high powered personnel was always in the outside. Its a casino dude, a lot of cameras, and those watching eye in the sky should have caught him and reported to the police and to the security personnel that have high powered guns. That is a casino for Christ sake, securities should be tighter than a bank. Again, I haven't see the footage yet but I think RW is to blame here.

And yeah, the gunman entered the building walking straight inside, he did not walk through the Metal detectors, if you ask me, he just entered like a boss, the security tried to stop the guy but she can't because she don't have a gun, then run to the casino where he sees another SG, but these SG didn't shoot because there are a lot of people around them. And that time, he started to run to the casino,burn the tables and steal chips.
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Just saw the CCTV clips from Resorts World. Gunman burned those luxury tables and slots machines. This is the first time I saw what's inside the casino and Im really stunned with those luxuries. But all those things turned to ashes. At the end of the clip, the gunman I think was shot by a person that is standing on the fire exit where the suspect go just few minutes ago before the arrival of the backups. They both surprised when they see each other. Hopefully they have the CCTV of gunman entering the room where he burned himself so that we can know that this is not his double and he is really the one who burned.

Some people are retarded questioning how the gunman entered the building with a gun without them realizing that as soon as the gunman entered the building, he is already on attack mode exactly at the entrance. What do you expect for those people in charge, will talked to this guy? Good thing they run so they report it quick to the authorities.

If you are not familiar with RW Manila, then before you can enter, its still a long walk before the actual casino entrance. I haven't seen the video's yet. But If I'm assuming he used the main entrance, there are already security personnel there, frisking you checking your bags and even a metal detectors before you can finally go to the casino proper. Even if you used the second floor entrance, security was there. If they were able to frisk him and see that he has a gun, then the casualties can be lessen I think. I don't know if this is the worst casino attack on recorded history. Main thing though is that the security in front don't have guns. All high powered personnel was always in the outside. Its a casino dude, a lot of cameras, and those watching eye in the sky should have caught him and reported to the police and to the security personnel that have high powered guns. That is a casino for Christ sake, securities should be tighter than a bank. Again, I haven't see the footage yet but I think RW is to blame here.
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June 05, 2017, 01:27:55 PM
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Im from the Philippines,  and I heard and watch almost all of the videos and cctv footage of this. At the same I used to play at Resorts World Manila as well. The place is literaly full of fun and you can feel how free is the country of the Philippines. Until this gunman came, and break all the happiness and fun at Resorts World. This violent act doesnt seem a terorist act but its a suicidal act in which he wants to scared people to death. Like he wants someone to be with him on his last hour in the world. Lets just pray for the souls of the innocent who died in the incident and I hope every casino should provide a better security not only always the money. 

Some casinos think that they don't need any security as people will be thinking that there'll be a heavy security and in that deception some cranked up guys do this kind of shi*. It's horrific to watch even the CCTV footages. May God give peace to all the Innocents who died in this tragic incidents and I hope it'll not affect the tourism of Philippines.
I am very much impressed with what's happening in the Philippines. When I look on TV or on the Internet, What a good resort and tourism are simply fascinating. I always wanted to go and she's there. And now I do not even know how or what to think about this country. I hope that all these tragic events will soon cease.
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Im from the Philippines,  and I heard and watch almost all of the videos and cctv footage of this. At the same I used to play at Resorts World Manila as well. The place is literaly full of fun and you can feel how free is the country of the Philippines. Until this gunman came, and break all the happiness and fun at Resorts World. This violent act doesnt seem a terorist act but its a suicidal act in which he wants to scared people to death. Like he wants someone to be with him on his last hour in the world. Lets just pray for the souls of the innocent who died in the incident and I hope every casino should provide a better security not only always the money. 

Some casinos think that they don't need any security as people will be thinking that there'll be a heavy security and in that deception some cranked up guys do this kind of shi*. It's horrific to watch even the CCTV footages. May God give peace to all the Innocents who died in this tragic incidents and I hope it'll not affect the tourism of Philippines.
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June 05, 2017, 10:27:03 AM
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A guy equipped with a  "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.
Nonetwork, the killing was very senseless! If it not and Isis attack then what will influence a man to go and curse the death of many people like this. We look at terrorist attacks as Islamic extremist and retaliation but what is the aim of this guy for Christ sake.

It is really senseless, and another one is how the gunman entered the building, a mews update was aired about these incident and the gunman just walked in the building, the Security Guard can't stop the gunman, there are even SGs that seen him but did not take action because many people are around that may be wounded or shot from what he will do. The question now is why the building has no good exits, from the deaths of the civilians, all of them died because of suffocation meaning they have no way to out and staying on one place.

Yes that is what I am also thinking, why they do not have exits.  Why did the security guard let the guy to justnpass like that without taking actions or immediately reporting it to the police or to the security department.  Why many casualties considering that the accused did not shoot any of the people inside the casino.  All fingers points to the management of the Resorts world.  They lack everything.  One more reason was that, no one ushers the people inside so no one knew the exits.  They just broke the window and do just anything to escape.  The Rw management should answer all of that.
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A guy equipped with a  "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.
Nonetwork, the killing was very senseless! If it not and Isis attack then what will influence a man to go and curse the death of many people like this. We look at terrorist attacks as Islamic extremist and retaliation but what is the aim of this guy for Christ sake.

It is really senseless, and another one is how the gunman entered the building, a mews update was aired about these incident and the gunman just walked in the building, the Security Guard can't stop the gunman, there are even SGs that seen him but did not take action because many people are around that may be wounded or shot from what he will do. The question now is why the building has no good exits, from the deaths of the civilians, all of them died because of suffocation meaning they have no way to out and staying on one place.
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A guy equipped with a  "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.
Nonetwork, the killing was very senseless! If it not and Isis attack then what will influence a man to go and curse the death of many people like this. We look at terrorist attacks as Islamic extremist and retaliation but what is the aim of this guy for Christ sake.
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It's a good thing that the gunman was identified because as long as he is not named, speculations about ISIS involvement will continue to appear in the media.

Now, according to police reports, the gunman was identified as Jessie Carlos, a former DOF (Department of Finance) employee who is “heavily debt” due to casino gambling. His parents also confirmed that he was indeed addicted to it and was a frequent guest at the Resort World Manila.

Anyways, since it's finally over, I hope this case will be closed, and RWM management appropriately compensates the relatives of the victims. My thoughts and prayers go out to their families.


Yes, that is right, this case is closed, but it will be a forever lesson to securities and even employees working on buildings and casinos, we must be really alert at all times. Money can't fix the pain that these incident has made, they need more than their money, money can't pay one's precious life.
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Im from the Philippines,  and I heard and watch almost all of the videos and cctv footage of this. At the same I used to play at Resorts World Manila as well. The place is literaly full of fun and you can feel how free is the country of the Philippines. Until this gunman came, and break all the happiness and fun at Resorts World. This violent act doesnt seem a terorist act but its a suicidal act in which he wants to scared people to death. Like he wants someone to be with him on his last hour in the world. Lets just pray for the souls of the innocent who died in the incident and I hope every casino should provide a better security not only always the money. 
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It's a good thing that the gunman was identified because as long as he is not named, speculations about ISIS involvement will continue to appear in the media.

Now, according to police reports, the gunman was identified as Jessie Carlos, a former DOF (Department of Finance) employee who is “heavily debt” due to casino gambling. His parents also confirmed that he was indeed addicted to it and was a frequent guest at the Resort World Manila.

Anyways, since it's finally over, I hope this case will be closed, and RWM management appropriately compensates the relatives of the victims. My thoughts and prayers go out to their families.
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A guy equipped with a  "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.

Gave that article a skim after reading about it here, that really was a senseless death went and got all the chips and then went and committed suicide.
Also one of the rare cases where being in the VIP room instead of escaping did not work because of smoke and fire.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/04/world/asia/philippines-casino-resorts-world-manila-jessie-carlos.html?_r=0
But looks like robbery ISIS sometimes just takes the credit for these lone wolf attacks since it presumes they are related.

Yes, according to the Philippine police it is a robbery even if the ISIS claimed that they are the one who did it.  And also they already have the identity of the gunman.  He was a former government empoyee who was addicted into gambling.  He has a debt of around 4M pesos.  Lost his family because of his addiction to gambling. 
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A guy equipped with a  "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.

Gave that article a skim after reading about it here, that really was a senseless death went and got all the chips and then went and committed suicide.
Also one of the rare cases where being in the VIP room instead of escaping did not work because of smoke and fire.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/04/world/asia/philippines-casino-resorts-world-manila-jessie-carlos.html?_r=0
But looks like robbery ISIS sometimes just takes the credit for these lone wolf attacks since it presumes they are related.
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UPDATE:

The Resorts World Manila gunman has been identified as Filipino Jessie Carlos, 43, separated, and a former tax specialist of the Department of Finance with known address at 1663 Felix Huertas corner San Lazaro St., Sta. Cruz, Manila.

NCRPO chief Director Oscar Albayalde, who ruled out speculation that the attack was an act of terrorism, said that Carlos had an outstanding debt of P4 million and was addicted to gambling. Carlos was described as a "high roller" and had been banned by PAGCOR from gambling in at least 4 casinos in Metro Manila.

Presented during the presscon were Carlos' parents and wife, who expressed their apologies and sympathy to families of the casualties of the attack.

Carlos, according to a 2014 article published in The Philippine Star, was found guilty of grave misconduct and neglect of duty for not declaring his house and lot in Manila in his SALNs from 2003 to 2006, his Toyota Innova SUV in his 2007 SALN, and his business interest in his 2010 SALN.

Following the decision, Carlos’ civil service eligibility was canceled, his retirement benefits forfeited, and he was perpetually disqualified ffrom reemployment in the government.

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2014/05/06/1319846/dof-tax-specialist-fired-not-declaring-assets?nomobile=1



It's clear that this man is full of debts. No he is not related to ISIS. ISIS can claimed whatever they want to make a hype.

Then he is really mentally disordered man. Without these informations, I think we will be staying in the idea that he is not a filipino. I think the deaths of many people there is really senseless, that is a selfish way to kill yourself. And yeah, ISIS claiming these incident as theirs, it is really funny.
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UPDATE:

The Resorts World Manila gunman has been identified as Filipino Jessie Carlos, 43, separated, and a former tax specialist of the Department of Finance with known address at 1663 Felix Huertas corner San Lazaro St., Sta. Cruz, Manila.

NCRPO chief Director Oscar Albayalde, who ruled out speculation that the attack was an act of terrorism, said that Carlos had an outstanding debt of P4 million and was addicted to gambling. Carlos was described as a "high roller" and had been banned by PAGCOR from gambling in at least 4 casinos in Metro Manila.

Presented during the presscon were Carlos' parents and wife, who expressed their apologies and sympathy to families of the casualties of the attack.

Carlos, according to a 2014 article published in The Philippine Star, was found guilty of grave misconduct and neglect of duty for not declaring his house and lot in Manila in his SALNs from 2003 to 2006, his Toyota Innova SUV in his 2007 SALN, and his business interest in his 2010 SALN.

Following the decision, Carlos’ civil service eligibility was canceled, his retirement benefits forfeited, and he was perpetually disqualified ffrom reemployment in the government.

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2014/05/06/1319846/dof-tax-specialist-fired-not-declaring-assets?nomobile=1



It's clear that this man is full of debts. No he is not related to ISIS. ISIS can claimed whatever they want to make a hype.
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June 03, 2017, 10:54:39 PM
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I heard that news that i thought it was a terrorist but the suspect was die with him self..
I just heard that news at youtube when i open up its trending too fast in youtube..
But the problem about the casino why they are not let people to run outside they are too crazy life is important than chips..

Casinos have very tight entrance/exit arrangements. Usually, there will be only one entrance, and even that will be tightly controlled. This was the main reason why there were so many casualties.
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June 03, 2017, 10:10:25 PM
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I heard that news that i thought it was a terrorist but the suspect was die with him self..
I just heard that news at youtube when i open up its trending too fast in youtube..
But the problem about the casino why they are not let people to run outside they are too crazy life is important than chips..

Your grammar is bad, though yes, it was not a terrorist but a mental disordered man who lost his money on gambling on the casino. The video is viral on social media too, not only YouTube, you can also read some articles about it so you can update yourself. The reason why the people cant get out is because the people are terrified, with a lot of gun shots inside they dont know where to go, where to hide, or where to run, some floors are on fire so they dont know where to go, that is why they find a safe room or place and stayed there.
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June 03, 2017, 08:40:30 PM
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Once you have selected Duterte in the Philippines will be a long time is not a stable situation. Muslim terrorists around the world arrange a bloody terrorist attacks. From this it is impossible to defend, but now you will have even tension. I'm really sorry. Philippines was a Paradise for tourists.

Yes, terrorist going to rob chips? yes, he will use those chips to build a weapon of mass destruction. Yes, Yes, very smart terrorist.
Yes, terrorist plays regularly at a casino.. hmmm very good terrorist for fooling people.

Yes, terrorist didn't shoot anyone very kind terrorist he would prefer shooting at the ceilings.

probably this terrorist was fucking broke that he can't buy bomb to blow himself up but instead use gasoline to burn himself.
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June 03, 2017, 08:00:27 PM
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I heard that news that i thought it was a terrorist but the suspect was die with him self..
I just heard that news at youtube when i open up its trending too fast in youtube..
But the problem about the casino why they are not let people to run outside they are too crazy life is important than chips..
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The police haven't release any video's yet. Just clippings from the CCTV of Resorts World. It was said that he was yelling that he was ISIS before firing but the police haven't verified it yet. Looks like President Duterte has visited the wake of some of the victims specially 2 who is still unclaimed. The wake of the most of the victims is also near my place, and tonight when I was about to go home, roads were closed and re-routed and a lot of police around. Didn't bother to look though as security is very tight and a lot of media as well. Travel bans coming from USA and Australia if I'm not mistaken was already release in the Philippines. This will put the country in bad light again, damn frustrating and disappointed as Filipino.

So frustrating, we've been making our country beautiful again by eradicating drug users and starting to have a good relationship with other country leaders. From what happened, President Donal Trump banned people traveling from Australia from what happened. What's more frustrating is that, they can stop one man from doing these incident, there would be no dead people if the security is always ready to these kind of attack.
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Just saw the CCTV clips from Resorts World. Gunman burned those luxury tables and slots machines. This is the first time I saw what's inside the casino and Im really stunned with those luxuries. But all those things turned to ashes. At the end of the clip, the gunman I think was shot by a person that is standing on the fire exit where the suspect go just few minutes ago before the arrival of the backups. They both surprised when they see each other. Hopefully they have the CCTV of gunman entering the room where he burned himself so that we can know that this is not his double and he is really the one who burned.

Some people are retarded questioning how the gunman entered the building with a gun without them realizing that as soon as the gunman entered the building, he is already on attack mode exactly at the entrance. What do you expect for those people in charge, will talked to this guy? Good thing they run so they report it quick to the authorities.
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June 03, 2017, 02:10:37 PM
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Once you have selected Duterte in the Philippines will be a long time is not a stable situation. Muslim terrorists around the world arrange a bloody terrorist attacks. From this it is impossible to defend, but now you will have even tension. I'm really sorry. Philippines was a Paradise for tourists.
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The police haven't release any video's yet. Just clippings from the CCTV of Resorts World. It was said that he was yelling that he was ISIS before firing but the police haven't verified it yet. Looks like President Duterte has visited the wake of some of the victims specially 2 who is still unclaimed. The wake of the most of the victims is also near my place, and tonight when I was about to go home, roads were closed and re-routed and a lot of police around. Didn't bother to look though as security is very tight and a lot of media as well. Travel bans coming from USA and Australia if I'm not mistaken was already release in the Philippines. This will put the country in bad light again, damn frustrating and disappointed as Filipino.
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June 03, 2017, 08:00:53 AM
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I have just noticed that the ISIS has claimed responsibility for this attack. But the identity of the attacker is not known as of now, and the cops are denying that Islamists are behind the attacks.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/02/asia/manila-philippines-resort-world-isis/index.html

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that the ISIS was indeed behind the attack. Even previously, they have specifically targeted facilities which are popular with the tourists. The attack on Reina nightclub in Istanbul is a perfect example.

To be fair to the police, they'll be having a hard time identifying the charred remains. I'm surprised they haven't really released the CCTV footage yet. Or at least, I haven't seen it in the news.

I think so too, but the question is, why did he do these, why would he go to Worlds Resorts Manila with a gun, he stole chips but he didn't use it and just commit suicide, it's making no sense. And just so you know, the gunman burned many parts of the casino, with the smoke and the fire, they can't use the camera because it didn't caught anything.

I saw some still from a CCTV footage on FB. It shows him sitting on the stairs in the fire exit, with what seem to be a small bag in hand. Apparently the guy is a foreigner (looks Middle Eastern to me) though as expected, still not a lot of details about him.

Maybe that's why their trying to keep mum a bit. Whether they label this as terrorism or not, it could spark panic, or worse if the guy is indeed Muslim or at least Middle Eastern. Christians here had been pretty quite tolerant, despite some bombings here in the capital, you don't see them mobbing mosques like in America.

It's a bit different now though. As the past election has shown, people have become quite intolerant of things that don't agree with them. Just look at any FB page and you'll get a taste of the vitriol Muslims and Christians are shoving down each other's throats after the siege in  Marawi.

I've seen the clip too, but there are no useful information that can be worked out in that clip. We can just guess the nationality from that video, though we can't have a solid proof what's his nationality. If we can compare the activities of terrorists to these incident, there is a huge difference, if this is a terrorist attack, these will be the worst and most bloody incident these year.
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June 03, 2017, 06:35:58 AM
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I have just noticed that the ISIS has claimed responsibility for this attack. But the identity of the attacker is not known as of now, and the cops are denying that Islamists are behind the attacks.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/02/asia/manila-philippines-resort-world-isis/index.html

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that the ISIS was indeed behind the attack. Even previously, they have specifically targeted facilities which are popular with the tourists. The attack on Reina nightclub in Istanbul is a perfect example.

To be fair to the police, they'll be having a hard time identifying the charred remains. I'm surprised they haven't really released the CCTV footage yet. Or at least, I haven't seen it in the news.

I think so too, but the question is, why did he do these, why would he go to Worlds Resorts Manila with a gun, he stole chips but he didn't use it and just commit suicide, it's making no sense. And just so you know, the gunman burned many parts of the casino, with the smoke and the fire, they can't use the camera because it didn't caught anything.

I saw some still from a CCTV footage on FB. It shows him sitting on the stairs in the fire exit, with what seem to be a small bag in hand. Apparently the guy is a foreigner (looks Middle Eastern to me) though as expected, still not a lot of details about him.

Maybe that's why their trying to keep mum a bit. Whether they label this as terrorism or not, it could spark panic, or worse if the guy is indeed Muslim or at least Middle Eastern. Christians here had been pretty quite tolerant, despite some bombings here in the capital, you don't see them mobbing mosques like in America.

It's a bit different now though. As the past election has shown, people have become quite intolerant of things that don't agree with them. Just look at any FB page and you'll get a taste of the vitriol Muslims and Christians are shoving down each other's throats after the siege in  Marawi.
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June 03, 2017, 03:31:36 AM
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I think its not ISIS because if it is ISIS then he hostage the civilian. Its like the gunmen has lost ing the gambling that is why He that terrible thing in his life. I guess Philippines must be vigilant and security in the philippines must be on tight to avoid that it is not happening again.

These will be a lesson to all kind of public buildings and also for Filipinos, including me. Security's job is to secure an area, to surpress these kinds of incidents to happen, but from what happened yesterday, they didn't do that.

Praying for those who died. That gunman is not yet known but confirmed as not a Filipino. The media said that this guy is in high with alcohol. Many of the people in second floor had a stampede. And this person burned the whole second floor and many of the people died because of sufocation.

The news and reports did not include the guy being drunk, they just had a conclusion based on some witnesses that the guy suffer from Mental disorder.

Philippines now experineced many destroyer. I hope as soon as possible all bad people and terorist die because many innocent people die because of them. I see the news that the resort world manila have many killed people. I hope philippines will go backa again into the peace country. I dont know why those people are still killing people . What did they get if they do this? Dont have. 

Islamic terrorism is affecting every nook and corner of the world. No one is safe from this terror. Non-Muslims need to unite against this common enemy. It doesn't matter whether you are a Christian, or a Hindu, or a Buddhist. If we don't unite, then this catastrophe will destroy all of us.

There are new updates saying that the terrorist confirmed the attack, we still don't know the truth,but all we know is these guy did not shoot people, did not take any hostages, stole some chips and commits suicide.
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I think its not ISIS because if it is ISIS then he hostage the civilian. Its like the gunmen has lost ing the gambling that is why He that terrible thing in his life. I guess Philippines must be vigilant and security in the philippines must be on tight to avoid that it is not happening again.
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June 03, 2017, 02:52:44 AM
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Praying for those who died. That gunman is not yet known but confirmed as not a Filipino. The media said that this guy is in high with alcohol. Many of the people in second floor had a stampede. And this person burned the whole second floor and many of the people died because of sufocation.
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Philippines now experineced many destroyer. I hope as soon as possible all bad people and terorist die because many innocent people die because of them. I see the news that the resort world manila have many killed people. I hope philippines will go backa again into the peace country. I dont know why those people are still killing people . What did they get if they do this? Dont have. 

Islamic terrorism is affecting every nook and corner of the world. No one is safe from this terror. Non-Muslims need to unite against this common enemy. It doesn't matter whether you are a Christian, or a Hindu, or a Buddhist. If we don't unite, then this catastrophe will destroy all of us.
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June 02, 2017, 06:37:55 PM
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I have just noticed that the ISIS has claimed responsibility for this attack. But the identity of the attacker is not known as of now, and the cops are denying that Islamists are behind the attacks.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/02/asia/manila-philippines-resort-world-isis/index.html

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that the ISIS was indeed behind the attack. Even previously, they have specifically targeted facilities which are popular with the tourists. The attack on Reina nightclub in Istanbul is a perfect example.

To be fair to the police, they'll be having a hard time identifying the charred remains. I'm surprised they haven't really released the CCTV footage yet. Or at least, I haven't seen it in the news.

I think so too, but the question is, why did he do these, why would he go to Worlds Resorts Manila with a gun, he stole chips but he didn't use it and just commit suicide, it's making no sense. And just so you know, the gunman burned many parts of the casino, with the smoke and the fire, they can't use the camera because it didn't caught anything.
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June 02, 2017, 05:42:39 PM
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Prayers for those who died. One of my friend witnessed that and by looking at her while telling me the story, she is really frightened and traumatized. It's only few miles away from my workplace.

There are lots of questions revolving around the incident, is it destabilization? terrorism? or just a person who have a grudge to the casino that maybe got loss in the past? I will follow the story.

ISIS claimed this, just now (RSS just bilpped). Trump actually got this one right, and I will comment that ISIS is putting up fucking MCDonald's numbsrs this year. I had a feeling about this, that the police were wrong. If I came to resort to rob chips, you wouldn't know. You don't strongarm a casino, coming out with kills immediately is not the way you rob something like this. And not by oneself, you would need a team for something like this.

 God preserve these people and their families. More tragedy, its getting worse people. Its not just this, the terrorism. We are sliding down, across the board. Maybe Im not old enough, but Ive never seen anything like this.


Que the anti Islam rhetoric in 5,4,3,2,1...

The security at these place is not that tight as it looks like, many people know that with even a lot of securities, they can still go in many ways. And based on the reports of the police, the gunman is alone and no one is with him the time he did the robbery, that is why, I am being dissapointed on how the security did not catch the loneman.

This. You know I have been in RW Manila many many times back in my height of my addiction to gambling. I told you I was a silver member of this club. And security in there was pretty tight. From the moment you enter, dog sniffing, bomb-squad, 2 camera's before you can enter the parking space. So I don't know how this madmen was able to enter the premises without security noticing something is not right. So for God's sake, I don't what the security was doing to prevent this tragedy. I blame it all on the security, for fucking this one. RW Manila was put into a bad light and the Philippines for the matter. And I'm so sorry for those who have lost their lives. RW Manila has already losing their customers because of COD (City of Dreams) and Solaire casino and now this incident might added another 25% lost of customers. Too bad for them.

From what is happening here in the Philippines, I think the number of people who wants to go here or even take a vacation here especially foreigners will drastically go down. There is a fight far south at Marawi with the Maute Group and there is these incident. I think not only the securities, but the people at the casino panicked and no one can even notify the other people in the casino that these is happening, resulting to many people getting suffocated and dying. Let's just hope these will be the last one, these is really terrible.
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June 02, 2017, 01:06:04 PM
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Philippines now experineced many destroyer. I hope as soon as possible all bad people and terorist die because many innocent people die because of them. I see the news that the resort world manila have many killed people. I hope philippines will go backa again into the peace country. I dont know why those people are still killing people . What did they get if they do this? Dont have. 
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June 02, 2017, 12:53:08 PM
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I have just noticed that the ISIS has claimed responsibility for this attack. But the identity of the attacker is not known as of now, and the cops are denying that Islamists are behind the attacks.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/02/asia/manila-philippines-resort-world-isis/index.html

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that the ISIS was indeed behind the attack. Even previously, they have specifically targeted facilities which are popular with the tourists. The attack on Reina nightclub in Istanbul is a perfect example.

To be fair to the police, they'll be having a hard time identifying the charred remains. I'm surprised they haven't really released the CCTV footage yet. Or at least, I haven't seen it in the news.

I'm agreeing with your assessment that thisight be a ploy to extenuate your state of martial law.

No reason why they should downplay ISIS links, it wouldn't reflect poorly on your government (I can't think of any policy  recently implemented that one could attribute this too).  I'm amazed that casino security couldn't take out a lone gunman. Over here, the Italian Mob still has its finger in the casino industry, this guy would have died poorly, and quickly. I think I heard that a lot of women died in a bathroom from smoke inhalation. That's beyond the pale of odd, that means they were barricaded in. Panicked females are a force of nature. No way in hell they stayed put while they died; they were prevented from leaving.

Why would he do this? Doesn't seem like a robbery, but doesn't seem quite like a terrorist attack. Something is off with this one.

And if he could get his hands on an M4, his knowledge of situational awareness is beyond mine. No soldier of fortune, or opportunist with experience, would have taken this job.

To be on the safe side I've reduced my rather critical posts on social media. I don't know how to go delete all of those I made in the past though.  Grin

Again, I'm waiting for CCTV shots from various locations in the casino. As you said, it is possible someone prevented them from going outside. Although I suppose people would hide in panic at the same situation, like those guests in the hotel attacked in Mumbai. This time though, there seem to be no one was there to knock on every door.

Sigh, they're taking some time to release details and everyone's on edge here.
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June 02, 2017, 12:39:13 PM
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I recently read something here about ISIS making inroads into the Philippines and being able to hit the country at its capital shows ISIS growing influence in the region. Duertete should  make sure that ISIS dont gain more grounds in his country, since he is acting all tough, he should make sure he beat them.
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June 02, 2017, 12:35:17 PM
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I have just noticed that the ISIS has claimed responsibility for this attack. But the identity of the attacker is not known as of now, and the cops are denying that Islamists are behind the attacks.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/02/asia/manila-philippines-resort-world-isis/index.html

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that the ISIS was indeed behind the attack. Even previously, they have specifically targeted facilities which are popular with the tourists. The attack on Reina nightclub in Istanbul is a perfect example.

To be fair to the police, they'll be having a hard time identifying the charred remains. I'm surprised they haven't really released the CCTV footage yet. Or at least, I haven't seen it in the news.

I'm agreeing with your assessment that thisight be a ploy to extenuate your state of martial law.

No reason why they should downplay ISIS links, it wouldn't reflect poorly on your government (I can't think of any policy  recently implemented that one could attribute this too).  I'm amazed that casino security couldn't take out a lone gunman. Over here, the Italian Mob still has its finger in the casino industry, this guy would have died poorly, and quickly. I think I heard that a lot of women died in a bathroom from smoke inhalation. That's beyond the pale of odd, that means they were barricaded in. Panicked females are a force of nature. No way in hell they stayed put while they died; they were prevented from leaving.

Why would he do this? Doesn't seem like a robbery, but doesn't seem quite like a terrorist attack. Something is off with this one.

And if he could get his hands on an M4, his knowledge of situational awareness is beyond mine. No soldier of fortune, or opportunist with experience, would have taken this job.
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June 02, 2017, 12:23:20 PM
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I have just noticed that the ISIS has claimed responsibility for this attack. But the identity of the attacker is not known as of now, and the cops are denying that Islamists are behind the attacks.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/02/asia/manila-philippines-resort-world-isis/index.html

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that the ISIS was indeed behind the attack. Even previously, they have specifically targeted facilities which are popular with the tourists. The attack on Reina nightclub in Istanbul is a perfect example.

To be fair to the police, they'll be having a hard time identifying the charred remains. I'm surprised they haven't really released the CCTV footage yet. Or at least, I haven't seen it in the news.
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June 02, 2017, 12:18:36 PM
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I have just noticed that the ISIS has claimed responsibility for this attack. But the identity of the attacker is not known as of now, and the cops are denying that Islamists are behind the attacks.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/02/asia/manila-philippines-resort-world-isis/index.html

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that the ISIS was indeed behind the attack. Even previously, they have specifically targeted facilities which are popular with the tourists. The attack on Reina nightclub in Istanbul is a perfect example.
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Prayers for those who died. One of my friend witnessed that and by looking at her while telling me the story, she is really frightened and traumatized. It's only few miles away from my workplace.

There are lots of questions revolving around the incident, is it destabilization? terrorism? or just a person who have a grudge to the casino that maybe got loss in the past? I will follow the story.

ISIS claimed this, just now (RSS just bilpped). Trump actually got this one right, and I will comment that ISIS is putting up fucking MCDonald's numbsrs this year. I had a feeling about this, that the police were wrong. If I came to resort to rob chips, you wouldn't know. You don't strongarm a casino, coming out with kills immediately is not the way you rob something like this. And not by oneself, you would need a team for something like this.

 God preserve these people and their families. More tragedy, its getting worse people. Its not just this, the terrorism. We are sliding down, across the board. Maybe Im not old enough, but Ive never seen anything like this.


Que the anti Islam rhetoric in 5,4,3,2,1...

The security at these place is not that tight as it looks like, many people know that with even a lot of securities, they can still go in many ways. And based on the reports of the police, the gunman is alone and no one is with him the time he did the robbery, that is why, I am being dissapointed on how the security did not catch the loneman.

This. You know I have been in RW Manila many many times back in my height of my addiction to gambling. I told you I was a silver member of this club. And security in there was pretty tight. From the moment you enter, dog sniffing, bomb-squad, 2 camera's before you can enter the parking space. So I don't know how this madmen was able to enter the premises without security noticing something is not right. So for God's sake, I don't what the security was doing to prevent this tragedy. I blame it all on the security, for fucking this one. RW Manila was put into a bad light and the Philippines for the matter. And I'm so sorry for those who have lost their lives. RW Manila has already losing their customers because of COD (City of Dreams) and Solaire casino and now this incident might added another 25% lost of customers. Too bad for them.
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June 02, 2017, 11:48:29 AM
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A guy equipped with a  "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.

So many questions and so little that the authorities are answering. M4s are usually only for police and soldiers. He went in there in camouflage, did he already have the gun with him or did he grab it from someone there? (Unlikely that security personnel have it.)

The body was found with a gunshot wound on the head, did he kill himself or did someone else shot at him while he was burning himself?
 
Prayers for those who died. One of my friend witnessed that and by looking at her while telling me the story, she is really frightened and traumatized. It's only few miles away from my workplace.

There are lots of questions revolving around the incident, is it destabilization? terrorism? or just a person who have a grudge to the casino that maybe got loss in the past? I will follow the story.

ISIS claimed this, just now (RSS just bilpped). Trump actually got this one right, and I will comment that ISIS is putting up fucking MCDonald's numbsrs this year. I had a feeling about this, that the police were wrong. If I came to resort to rob chips, you wouldn't know. You don't strongarm a casino, coming out with kills immediately is not the way you rob something like this. And not by oneself, you would need a team for something like this.

 God preserve these people and their families. More tragedy, its getting worse people. Its not just this, the terrorism. We are sliding down, across the board. Maybe Im not old enough, but Ive never seen anything like this.


Que the anti Islam rhetoric in 5,4,3,2,1...

ISIS can claim lone wolf attacks if they want to and there'll be hard to find out if they really had contact with the dead attacker. Authorities are dismissing any links, the the timing is quite suspect, considering the government is currently fighting of terrorists down south.
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June 02, 2017, 10:54:08 AM
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Sad that it has to happen.  The gunman maybe was so depressed that he do not know what to do after he lost his wealth because of gambling.  It so sad to know that even if he was depressed he do not point a gun to anyone and shot them.  Isis should not be linked here or any terrorist group.  It was purely done by a depressed addicted mind.
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June 02, 2017, 10:12:44 AM
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Prayers for those who died. One of my friend witnessed that and by looking at her while telling me the story, she is really frightened and traumatized. It's only few miles away from my workplace.

There are lots of questions revolving around the incident, is it destabilization? terrorism? or just a person who have a grudge to the casino that maybe got loss in the past? I will follow the story.

ISIS claimed this, just now (RSS just bilpped). Trump actually got this one right, and I will comment that ISIS is putting up fucking MCDonald's numbsrs this year. I had a feeling about this, that the police were wrong. If I came to resort to rob chips, you wouldn't know. You don't strongarm a casino, coming out with kills immediately is not the way you rob something like this. And not by oneself, you would need a team for something like this.

 God preserve these people and their families. More tragedy, its getting worse people. Its not just this, the terrorism. We are sliding down, across the board. Maybe Im not old enough, but Ive never seen anything like this.


Que the anti Islam rhetoric in 5,4,3,2,1...

The security at these place is not that tight as it looks like, many people know that with even a lot of securities, they can still go in many ways. And based on the reports of the police, the gunman is alone and no one is with him the time he did the robbery, that is why, I am being dissapointed on how the security did not catch the loneman.
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June 02, 2017, 09:11:14 AM
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Prayers for those who died. One of my friend witnessed that and by looking at her while telling me the story, she is really frightened and traumatized. It's only few miles away from my workplace.

There are lots of questions revolving around the incident, is it destabilization? terrorism? or just a person who have a grudge to the casino that maybe got loss in the past? I will follow the story.

ISIS claimed this, just now (RSS just bilpped). Trump actually got this one right, and I will comment that ISIS is putting up fucking MCDonald's numbsrs this year. I had a feeling about this, that the police were wrong. If I came to resort to rob chips, you wouldn't know. You don't strongarm a casino, coming out with kills immediately is not the way you rob something like this. And not by oneself, you would need a team for something like this.

 God preserve these people and their families. More tragedy, its getting worse people. Its not just this, the terrorism. We are sliding down, across the board. Maybe Im not old enough, but Ive never seen anything like this.


Que the anti Islam rhetoric in 5,4,3,2,1...
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June 02, 2017, 09:10:15 AM
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Prayers for those who died. One of my friend witnessed that and by looking at her while telling me the story, she is really frightened and traumatized. It's only few miles away from my workplace.

There are lots of questions revolving around the incident, is it destabilization? terrorism? or just a person who have a grudge to the casino that maybe got loss in the past? I will follow the story.

A lot died and they think that these is a senseless death, no criminals caught alive, nothing was achieved by the robbery and the suspect commit suicide. It is not a terrorism because the suspect did not fire at the people, and yeah, the possibility is that man has lost in these casino because there are some big bettors who might've been familiar with the man.
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June 02, 2017, 07:40:45 AM
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Prayers for those who died. One of my friend witnessed that and by looking at her while telling me the story, she is really frightened and traumatized. It's only few miles away from my workplace.

There are lots of questions revolving around the incident, is it destabilization? terrorism? or just a person who have a grudge to the casino that maybe got loss in the past? I will follow the story.
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June 02, 2017, 07:30:29 AM
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A guy equipped with a  "baby armalite" fires at Worlds Resort Manila, He may be equipped by a rifle but he did not fired to people there making it a conclusion that ISIS is not responsible for these attack. A lot of carpets burned, alot of people died because of suffocation and many wounded. Stole $2.3M worth of chips but commits suicide afterwards, many was killed and wounded, I think these deaths was senseless.
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