Topic: Has it become a crime to learn from the experiences of others in this community? (Read 720 times)

Yes, you're right and I agree with you. I believe the thread will remain there for many years to come, and who knows if that thread becomes sister thread of WO thread. Most of the guys in that thread are also active on WO thread, I used to be active there too but since few months I have been really busy in trading and that's the reason why I haven't been able to post there. Best of luck from my side to all those who are still doing those push ups to create positive vibes.

Trading discussion is covers entirely on trading in general. And i know OP to be a cryptocurrency trader i dont see in any reason why the topic should be deleted. If there is, i want to say that in Bitcoin discussion i have seen topic relating to trump in Bitcoin, chrucehs in Bitcoin and schools in Bitcoin, infact i have come across trading discussion over there but these topics are not deleted by mods.

Only good reasons why i feel it should be deleted by the mod is if that topic has already been discussed before in the board. Anything else i am yet to hear the reason.

This is why that thread still stands as it is speculative.

No one knows if the pushups are saving the day.

Wow, 100 push ups by someone who's literally over 65 years is quite interesting. I don't know if that thread is the reason that created fire in the hearts of the investors and it worked on subconscious level to push Bitcoin's value over $100k, but at least I know that thread has helped many members to get physically fit and that's more than enough.

The thread is there and I hope it will always be there and will help others to know that in order to help Bitcoin a group of disciplined people did 100 push ups a day. Who knows the next gen might get inspired by reading posts of that thread.

Lately there have been some over zealous forum members who just instead of correcting the ops just term it off topics and report to moderators, this can happen to anyone, I hard a user that called me a spammer sometimes ago because of a typo error in my comment, instead calling my attention to it, this is an attack against stake and other big signatures campaign members, we have been the most quality producing members here, but yet the highest attacked, any way, what I can say to the ops is that he should, include Bitcoin in his topics when next he want to start up such trading discussions.

There are some keywords that the moderators will just see as negative such as forex and mixer with the rest of the other forum restrictions words, hope you just move one bro.

Ah we are now over 105K new all time highs.

My a1c is around 5.7

I almost am over 100 pushups a day average.

And on that thread we are attempting to get us up and over 100k pounds. As we did pass 100K euros.

The speculation thread is where it belongs and will always belong. Since no one knows for sure if we are the reason we did go over the 100k mark. Thus it is speculation.

As for the op's question the trading section  may apply just to bitcoin on a technical level ,but I do feel it was an interesting thread by the op.

Trading multiple things may aid in trading btc and or cryptocurrency.  SO I do understand the ops annoyance.

once again Don Pedro Dinero thanks for annoying me enough to push out more pushups. PLEASE CONTINUE YOU COMPLAINING.

Topics that borders on forex trading without bitcoin included will get either the treatment is either the topic get movetp off topics or getting trashed in totality this could be some hide  moderator decreption rules, and the harmer to hand out any of the two is left for the moderators, so for that, I don't see anything wrong with the decision of the moderator and ops is advice to learn from this Incidents and move on avoid making such mistakes in the futurem.

We learn every day amd bitcointalk is a bitcoin community so what ever discussion threads most carry the acceptable term's and wordings, to pass the right information for clarity sake.

I have also noticed (I may not be correct about this though) that there haven't been much thread creation in some of the forum boards as it used to be and this could be due to fears that after spending time to craft out some relatively good thread it still gets moved to off topic or deleted for some or the other. And some of these members just resolve to going around waking up old threads to spark up discussion. I agree the mods are doing their job which is commendable but there are certain threads that should be considered to be locked at some point when quality input's has been made there by members than deleting the thread.

This is my opinion on this, its not that your topic was just deleted like that, neither was it an attempt to make you among others not to learn from the experience ones, but when you look more deeply, some subject matter are often discussed by the community members, also, the moderator will have to look more closely on the details contained in the post made, if the contents is informative, educative or has a strange experience others can learn from, once they are not convinced about all these measure, they have the power to decide on what to do on such thread, that is why you can discover some in off topic, deleted posts and some on, don't take it offensive, but learn =something more new from this and move on better.

The topic and the content was not in any way bitcoin related and you would agree with me that this platform prioritizes anything bitcoin and crypto related engagements in the accurate board for all to see. As a matter of fact, it was a trading stuff to talk of and the board was not the right board where it was created. Possibly the reason it was deleted by a moderator and I have read many post here clearly telling OP that it was not the right place to have created such post which OP should have noted by now to not make such mistake in the future.

OP, like others, I also believe that your topic was deleted because it wasn't related to Bitcoin or crypto in any way possible. Although, you posted it in trading discussion board but it was about Forex trading not about crypto trading or Bitcoin trading. I personally think that only Bitcoin and crypto trading related topics should be allowed in that board to keep that board.

I definitely agree with this. Since it's in trading discussion where as above post I quoted is the reason why many posts on that board are deleted by mods either mods find low quality for example or it is reported by a forum member which also fit the criteria why a post should be deleted. Also the image that provided by OP isn't from the forum itself that says about that so you shouldn't worry about rhe comment although it won't hurt if you take warning as a good reminder.

Yeah you are right though, but from what I understood it's strictly on bitcoin and cryptocurrency related discussion in the trading section. Well, I still don't see that free part they talked about that Bitcointalk is a open community that gives everyone freedom to do whatever they want. But sincerely speaking for such action towards just a simple question op asked and from their judgement I think they are not really displaying what the forum is preaching. Adding subsection for such discussion would be fine as well, and it's a good idea as I think lots of people and FX traders would have their opinions over there to share thoughts and knowledge.

Trading Discussion board isn't that bad. If you want to know what low quality posts are, you've to see what goes on in the Altcoin Discussion board. Sometimes I wonder if the mods there don't see those spam posts whose only purpose is to meet up with weekly payouts.

We learn everyday. I want to believe that the OP, and others reading through this thread, would've realized by now that the only mistake made there that caused that deletion was not mentioning Bitcoin trading.

I'm not sure OP would've loved that either because it wouldn't draw the type of attention they wanted.

Before now so many of topic and low quality topic posts were found in the trading discussion board. But it seems that the moderator of that board has risen to clean up and sanitize the board.
However, I have a lil bit of doubt why the post was deleted. It it was because derivatives and Forex trading were mentioned, then the best action would have been to move the thread to the off topic board instead of outright deletion.

Perhaps, it should be a thing of consideration now for the forum to create a section for Derivatives and Fx Trading. Yes, this is Bitcointalk but we also have a board for altcoins. That unarguably spices up the forum. We can also see the inclusion of Derivatives as more fun. Like they say, the more the merrier. They're a lot of members here who trade Derivatives an Fx and would also want a place on the forum where they can banter and cross fertilize ideas.

In my personal view, you create threads/topics on the trading board, there are no mistakes and no crimes, in your view the questions are rational/objective but there are rules that state.

There is a big possibility that if it is assessed by other members, it could be considered that the questions in your thread are not consistent/systematic, it could be considered uninteresting and so on.
Example:

You shouldn't ask questions like above "trading on weekends". Most of your words are "trading on weekends" because trading is not like trading vegetables, it has to be done on weekends, there is no time limit if you want to trade in the crypto market, I think on that basis it can be considered low and pointless, I think so, that's my view due to the deletion of your threads/topics.

I think I have seen other forex trading-related threads in the Trading discussion board and they were not deleted. So why is Doctor Strange's thread deleted? He is Dr. Bitcoin strange. Even if he does not mention the word Bitcoin, when he is talking, you have to assume he is talking about Bitcoin. Another question is, don't you think that thread could fit in other boards? 

If none of the boards fit, the moderator could move it to an off-topic board instead of deleting it. BTW, I see that some other people also asked the same question 

This is unfortunate and pathetic at the same time, it hurts when a deserving question is asked at an appropriate section of the forum but gets either moved to the Off-topic or deleted, what purpose will the forums serve if not to give knowledge and be impacted the same? I think the moderators should take it easy because aside from yours, I've seen so many good questions in which I furnished brilliant answers to the OP but was meted with the same fate as yours. This is not encouraging when valuable pieces are left hidden or deleted.

I only stated the obvious, and I don't understand why you're getting so hard. Relax man! Sherrif doesn't bite. 


Some topics are not worth debate,( could it be more appropriate here or there or here) and the OP topic falls within this category. The OP topic was obviously low quality, and I believe Mod removing it to minimise obvious inbound spam was a good decision. Or don't you think so? 

One of the altcoins boards might have been better. Though an argument could be made that it doesn't even involve altcoins. Speculation would do in that case.

Off-topic is only for the true "that's bizarre, I didn't expect to see this on Bitcointalk" kind of topics.

Well when you address some ighe sit back and type like a gentleman and not someone typing with his feelings at the tip of his fingers. So what exactly do you mean with your block of text ? And here you have it you are just Forex trader as you claim talking also to someone who has traded both on the crypto market and the Forex market too. You are clearly claiming what you think is right with a single one sided view .
If you actually know what you claim you know so well why not address it here? As clearly as explaining it. You don't come here to write that some one doesn't know what he's saying just because you have a one sided view or don't understand his point. Well I think it's time for you to also say that the synthetic pairs are offered in crypto right!!

I don’t know where the mixup comes in but, the forex market as I know it closes over the weekend and doesn’t work until the week days or working days and by that I mean Monday through Friday.

Again, having to go through the supposedly deleted trade, OP presented his concern as a whole and not in parts. The OP was talking about trading preferences with respect to the period and strategy employed. That’s the way I understand it which seems okay.

However, I would say OP didn’t take much time in creating this thread. The thread seemed to have been created from a pop up idea and not a carefully thought about idea. I can’t say for sure why it got deleted but, can’t say I’m intrigued of the way and why the subject was created.

You're talking to a part-time forex trader; stop claiming to know something you absolutely don't; simply reading your reply reveals that you know nothing about Forex.

OP time to lock the thread

Op's discussion wasn't related to Forex trading. Forex trading is actually totally different from crypto trading although few Forex brokers offer crypto pairs but it's usually for very few and popular crypto currencies like bitcoin and Ethereum. Op made mention of strategies for derivatives and that is only available in crypto trading not forex trading.
Things like derivative, futures and many others are actually offered in crypto trading not forex. Forex offers mainly trading between currency pair, metals, instruments , natural resources and some synthetic pairs and not derivatives.

Like I said op should have made that post in the altcoin section because It's actually the best fit. Infact the derivative and future markets actually offer more of recent coins and meme coins not something like bitcoin.

Moderators deleting a post simply means the post is not needed, if anyone should report the post for example let’s assume what you said is true definitely mods also review first before taking any action. I don’t know how all this work but, we can all agree not all reported post are deleted by moderators. I have seen several complaints related to this although asking a question is acceptable besides most people take this privilege granted asking unnecessary and repeated questions.

Oh wow, it really just hit on me now to go and re-read the description of that board which I understand now.
Like you said that some persons do overlook that it's was for Bitcoin trading discussion. I am among persons that actually overlooked it but is clear now.



Lol, but I was not just referring to forex alone, actually did include the derivative trading which was what I was even more concern about because I do trade futures and not forex but I know that we might have some forex guys in the house, that's why I added it. But actually in future, is still crypto we're trading, which mostly the high valued coin like Bitcoin is what I mostly traded. But no problem though, I think I am cleared on this.  Already had some good testimonies from some traders before it got nuked 🤣.


Kamar? Hmm.. How can it be called karma when the forum moderators are doing their job while I also did mine in my self moderated topic?
Well, I wasn't hurt or angry that the topic got deleted, was just curious to know why it was deleted but base on what the above quoted member has said, I think I now know why.

In a self moderated topic, the OP can delete any comments that is not in line with what is expected, however deleting someone's post in a self moderated topic is not to hurt them. By the way why do you see it as hurting someone? Do you usually get hurt when your post it deleted in a self mod-topic or nuked by mods? As for me, I don't. It's no big deal.

As for the forex aspect, am not a forex trader, but it's good you dropped that link, it can be useful to someone else.

Deleting the obvious low-quality spam was the smartest decision. Nobody trades the forex market on weekends, and if you really want to learn about forex, Bitcointalk is not the place to start. Anyone who isn't on the trading board to learn and read about Bitcoin trading is clearly on the wrong board, as we say. OP is okay with the decision now, you should be too.

This is what it called "karma".

You deleted someone post because he just not understand what you mean, while you can explain what's actually TP and SL without deleting his post.

Now, when someone delete your post, you get angry and exaggerate it.

So, @OP if you don't want to get hurt, learn to not hurt other people.

My suggestion, if you want to discuss about forex you can post in this forum https://www.forum.forex/

In totality I can assumed that discussion that is based on forex is frown here because it's not entirely directly referring to Bitcoin discussion. Now I accept the reason why it was deleted, if judging from what the previous poster said it's assumed to be off-topic therefore they could have moved it to that section rather than totally deleted.

I do not know the reason Dr.Bitcoin_Strange needed to mention forex traders when forex (and stock) market will close every Friday and open every Monday (but which is Sunday night 11pm GMT +1 in my country).

I think if he included bitcoin and other crypto and not forex, the post might not have been deleted.

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@Dr.Bitcoin_Strange
If you notice during weekends, the market can be boring in most time. Although, unlike during bull run, there can be weekends that are bullish which is an exceptional period and it may not be more than 2 weekends. If you are the type that like long position, weekends might not be for you. Also if you open short, it might be risky on Sunday evening as more people are about to resume trading and buying.

Possibly to be an off topic as you strictly based your topic on forex trading. Maybe related trading discussions that's practiced there on the Trading Discussion Board is strickly Crypto trading discussions which is as a primary form of discussion of this platform as bitcointalk and cryptocurrencies discussions.
I feel your pain though when tried to air your mind to clear your doubts as a process to perform your future tasks and then it's disregarded by moved or deleted by the Mod.
Who knows, the Mod doesn't have personal sentiments with you to assume he doesn't want your progress so, take that part of action to be what's right to be done by the Mod and consider your thread to be off topic or some terms of breaching some terms of social policies or the content of the thread is misinforming the audience.

Since it was off why didn't they moved to off-topic instead of having it deleted entirely? Well I can't basically questioned their order but sometimes it's painful for someone to learn and it turns out the other way. Meaning they aren't free to learn or teach others who aren't the knowledgeable to know what he should know on the forum, is it what we are directly saying over here?

The forum is not against forex trading discussion; it is simply against it being discussed on the wrong board.

The OP expressly mentioned derivative FX traders, and there was nothing about Bitcoin trading in that discussion. The forum's off-topic section remains active, allowing for non-Bitcoin trading discussions. See the rules on the trading discussion board...

Does it mean one can't mentioned forex on their discussion on this forum or while trying to getting something clearer as he tends not to understand it more, rather asking questions around here to know it and understood well. Please I would also want to know the version of the forum rules that speaks against forex discussion or is prohibited from this forum. Maybe it seems I am not getting all rules clearly maybe there are hidden rules which we should know about the forum.

Seems like someone here either finds that thread funny or outrightly dislikes it . I think that particular thread was actually created for the fun of its concept and not necessarily because of the push ups if you ask me.

The trading discussion board I think had your post Deleted probably because the post didn't actually make any direct emphasis on bitcoin related trading and as a result a member of two here may have reported that its not necessary. I'm pretty much sure that it you had made that thread in the altcoins section it wouldn't have been deleted because it's more like a better fit for it and it seems members seldom report posts there.

Derivatives are part of crypto trading not forex. Op's discussion was more of an altcoin one though.

OP forex trading discussion on Bitcoin trading discussion board? Know the difference. 


You've created enough awareness for that thread more than the OP himself without knowing- I got to know about that thread through your topic. Bad review is also an ad they say

Your thread didn't seem to have the word "Bitcoin" anywhere. "Derivatives" and forex trading are different subjects and have nothing to do with Bitcoin unless you specifically mention that you are talking about cryptocurrency derivatives trading.

That's why, based on the following explanation of what can be discussed in the section, your thread was off-topic:


You need to check the Post Guidelines to understand which sections are suitable for what sort of topics and what your topics should be discussing to not be considered off-topic in any of the sections.


I'm one of the users whose post in his self-moderated thread got deleted even though it wasn't off-topic. However, I didn't report his thread or posts. I also didn't complain about it because I thought I would let him do his thing because a self-moderated thread tells us that we shouldn't post in such threads if we don't want to get moderated by the OP.

You may be right with that, someone may have reported this thread to be off topics, and moderators acting on such reports, although this is just an assumptions any ways, I tried to see the topic title to know if it sounds off topic and worth deleting as such but couldn't fine it, so the conclusion os that, the reason for this thread deletion may be because of one or two of the thing's already mentioned in comment's here.

Trading discussions is allowed, but Becassine of low quality trading topics, the mod are more active on trading discussions board than any other boards around the forum, so before you create any topic take the time to carefully think out the topic before putting it up here mate, hard luck your thread get deleted.

Just out of curiosity, the topic you opened in the trading discussion board. Was it self moderated like the previous one where some member complained that you unfairly deleted their replies?
If so, you might as well be under scrutiny. Perhaps someone even started reporting your posts, and mods will act on it if they deem necessary. I see the other thread has already been closed. Was it you or the mods?

Of course not, lol. I find it quite funny actually.

Try the same, OP but with a push-up challenge, LMAO.

Do you have obsessive-compulsive disorder or something? You seem to be quite obsessed with a particular thread on the forum. 

You should have included a push-up challenge within the trading so it wouldn't have been deleted.

I agree. That topic was likely deleted because it was off-topic. "Trading discussion" board is primarily intended for Bitcoin trading discussions. Many people tend to overlook the fact that this is a Bitcointalk.org forum after all.

What might be the reason for the mod to delete the post maybe be as it was limited to derivative and forex trading and not cryptocurrency trading. This is just my best guess but it could be wrong as they know best why they deleted the topic which I feel might actually bring up ideas and experiences of others from the discussion. Time to trade is definitely an important factor of consideration in trading so knowing about the views of others regarding their trading schedule is not a bad one.

I think they way you presented the topic was the actual reason to be honest, going through the topic sounded somehow, if you did add this explanation earlier to the topic I think it likey won't  have been deleted except there are other reasons I might not know but looking at how it was presented earlier, it looks vague and thereby the actual reason for the post can be misinterpreted.

First of, I was advised by my mentor not to engage in trading the derivative market during Saturdays and Sundays but can do so any other day between Mondays and Fridays. He did say that he doesn't even engage in trade within the five working days of the week and that Saturdays and Sundays can give rise to unpredictable market, so it's better to stay clear.  After learning this, I decided to created a topic on the "Trading Discussion board" To ask fellow experienced traders if they actually do trade during weekends and how successful do they win their trade during weekend.

I just realized now that the topic has been deleted. So, to any moderator here, please what could be the cause why the topic was deleted? Does it go against the community rule, was it not a question that was meant to be publicly asked? Or we have moved pass the era where we can no longer ask any concerning trading question on the trading board? Because if that question was not of interest to me, I see no reason to even come up with it. Thanks for your feedback.

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