Topic: HASHNEST Discussion and Support Thread - page 132. (Read 660097 times)
guys, can anyone help me with google authentication? it gives me always error and i cannot withdrew. i cannot cancel it too. i am opening tickets but no answer
How does the following sound?
Buying hash from the market and then buying more Hash with the payouts and selling hash when the Maintenance/Payout ratio is greater than 75%?
I initially bought 27 GH of S7 which I traded today for 66 GH of S5 with plans to buy more S5 Hash until the Maintenance/Payout ratio is greather than 75% in which case I move on to S7 or possibly a new model of miner.
Buying hash from the market and then buying more Hash with the payouts and selling hash when the Maintenance/Payout ratio is greater than 75%?
I initially bought 27 GH of S7 which I traded today for 66 GH of S5 with plans to buy more S5 Hash until the Maintenance/Payout ratio is greather than 75% in which case I move on to S7 or possibly a new model of miner.
This is not the best idea, because with halving approaching the S5 price will drop regardless of maintenance/payout ratio or in other words the ratio may never cross your threshold but at the same time your hashes will become worthless. Doesn't mean you will lose your money, you will probably yield enough on mining. But whole concept looking at maintenance/payout ratio doesn't look logical to me, the price of hash is most important.
I'm currently looking at hash depreciation as well. The S5 currently depreciates slower than the S7. With the amount that the S5 does depreciate, it makes no sense to use all the earnings from GH to buy more GH.
Anyone notice the little over 40PH that Ant lost today? I think it's helping keep the 10m block times and MAYBE diff in check this cycle. Where did it go? Maybe the s3 hashnest that just went negative maintenance? I always thought they were running all s7 and just charging people different rates for s3,4,5. Maybe they really had a legit s3 farm that they shut down?
Antpool is also a pool. People can point their own miners at it. Maybe lots of miners with S3 decided to pull their own plugs.
Maybe, but I would think that would be a little more gradual. 40PH is A LOT of HW and it all fell off very quickly. Another thought is Ant powered down 40PH to prep for Mike Hearn backlash, calling out the Chinese as owning the blockchain and that 2 guys own more then 50% of the network. Price took a hit and they may want to say, what we don't have 50% with F2. F2 is now showing 130PH, I think they were close to 200PH and look at the block times, WAY slow so a lot of hash got turned off.
Anyone notice the little over 40PH that Ant lost today? I think it's helping keep the 10m block times and MAYBE diff in check this cycle. Where did it go? Maybe the s3 hashnest that just went negative maintenance? I always thought they were running all s7 and just charging people different rates for s3,4,5. Maybe they really had a legit s3 farm that they shut down?
Antpool is also a pool. People can point their own miners at it. Maybe lots of miners with S3 decided to pull their own plugs.
Anyone notice the little over 40PH that Ant lost today? I think it's helping keep the 10m block times and MAYBE diff in check this cycle. Where did it go? Maybe the s3 hashnest that just went negative maintenance? I always thought they were running all s7 and just charging people different rates for s3,4,5. Maybe they really had a legit s3 farm that they shut down?
Hello everyone. Today, S3 Maintenance / Payout (PPS) 101%. This is the definitive end. 
Damn, it s going fast. How far is S4 from turning down?
with last rise diff about 2 weaks - 10 % ( 31.12.2015 - 12.01.2016) , next 2 weaks about same 10 % , my opinion. So whole month about 20 % .Still predic that halving will be about June 2016 ? not so sure, could be sooner . If whole world still be mining BTC with that speed, 20 % rise diff EVRY month, ROI with all investments portals (not only hashnest) will extend . So to keep your payment on stable level you need to reinvest about 20 % of your earn now every month....
Not sure if it's only me but : I can't log into the app using ios. It sorry me my stats for 2 seconds, then it goes back to the login page.
When using safari to login the ddos protection page refreshes all the time and doesn't load the login page. But this doesn't happen with chrome.
Btw, I am using 2 factor authorization.
Problem with the app has been solved. However I still can't access my account through safari (ios). When using safari to login the ddos protection page refreshes all the time and doesn't load the login page. But this doesn't happen with chrome.
Btw, I am using 2 factor authorization.
Hello everyone. Today, S3 Maintenance / Payout (PPS) 101%. This is the definitive end.
He states it exactly: ROI is below 150 days RIGHT NOW. As nobody knows what will be next difficulty increases there is no sense trying to estimate them. But the current ROI as it is now is nice way to assess the hashnest prices. About 150 days gives good buffer to ROI before halving.
That's just not the case.
You don't have a 'buffer', because the ROI is _not_ 150 Days.
And the statement "no sense trying to estimate" could not be more wrong.
Of course you need to estimate. You can not just let out an essential variable.
To make it short: There is no chance to ROI with S5 before halving.
Except you are good at trading or BTC Price go up.
Of course. That´s how markets work. You try to anticipate future events, be ahead of the curve. It´s useless to look at current ROI and ignore the difficulty. I guess it´s up to the Bitcoin price how it develops. The hashrate and with it the difficulty seems likely to chase the price up and also down, at least it should work that way on average.
Ok guys nice to see some heat in discussion
I wasn't clear enough. Of course I don't believe the ROI without trying to estimate next difficulty will be real, I am just using it as guide when buying and selling hashes short term, eg last week I purchased S4 at 0.0001 because theoretical ROI was under 130 days, today I sold them because the ROI at 0.00012 dropped to almost 200 so no reason to hold them anymore. Not necessary to use the word ROI at all, you can make calculations for 10 day yield for example and use it as guidance. I will now set S4 purchase at 0.00009 and wait again for another panic selling. The same over and over again...+1 I'm not long term at the moment , so my calculation are based from a diff increase to the next .
trying to predict further than a month is very uncertain . Of course if you play long term (like until the next halving ) average diff increase is to take into consideration .
hope i clarified the point .
How does the following sound?
Buying hash from the market and then buying more Hash with the payouts and selling hash when the Maintenance/Payout ratio is greater than 75%?
I initially bought 27 GH of S7 which I traded today for 66 GH of S5 with plans to buy more S5 Hash until the Maintenance/Payout ratio is greather than 75% in which case I move on to S7 or possibly a new model of miner.
Buying hash from the market and then buying more Hash with the payouts and selling hash when the Maintenance/Payout ratio is greater than 75%?
I initially bought 27 GH of S7 which I traded today for 66 GH of S5 with plans to buy more S5 Hash until the Maintenance/Payout ratio is greather than 75% in which case I move on to S7 or possibly a new model of miner.
This is not the best idea, because with halving approaching the S5 price will drop regardless of maintenance/payout ratio or in other words the ratio may never cross your threshold but at the same time your hashes will become worthless. Doesn't mean you will lose your money, you will probably yield enough on mining. But whole concept looking at maintenance/payout ratio doesn't look logical to me, the price of hash is most important.
The price of S5 won't necessarily drop. As far as I've observed, when the price of btc moves up, the price per GH/s of all the products in HashNest also moves accordingly, with S7s primarily with the greatest movement. There's at least a relationship with the maintenance/payout ratio regarding that.
How does the following sound?
Buying hash from the market and then buying more Hash with the payouts and selling hash when the Maintenance/Payout ratio is greater than 75%?
I initially bought 27 GH of S7 which I traded today for 66 GH of S5 with plans to buy more S5 Hash until the Maintenance/Payout ratio is greather than 75% in which case I move on to S7 or possibly a new model of miner.
Buying hash from the market and then buying more Hash with the payouts and selling hash when the Maintenance/Payout ratio is greater than 75%?
I initially bought 27 GH of S7 which I traded today for 66 GH of S5 with plans to buy more S5 Hash until the Maintenance/Payout ratio is greather than 75% in which case I move on to S7 or possibly a new model of miner.
This is not the best idea, because with halving approaching the S5 price will drop regardless of maintenance/payout ratio or in other words the ratio may never cross your threshold but at the same time your hashes will become worthless. Doesn't mean you will lose your money, you will probably yield enough on mining. But whole concept looking at maintenance/payout ratio doesn't look logical to me, the price of hash is most important.
He states it exactly: ROI is below 150 days RIGHT NOW. As nobody knows what will be next difficulty increases there is no sense trying to estimate them. But the current ROI as it is now is nice way to assess the hashnest prices. About 150 days gives good buffer to ROI before halving.
That's just not the case.
You don't have a 'buffer', because the ROI is _not_ 150 Days.
And the statement "no sense trying to estimate" could not be more wrong.
Of course you need to estimate. You can not just let out an essential variable.
To make it short: There is no chance to ROI with S5 before halving.
Except you are good at trading or BTC Price go up.
Of course. That´s how markets work. You try to anticipate future events, be ahead of the curve. It´s useless to look at current ROI and ignore the difficulty. I guess it´s up to the Bitcoin price how it develops. The hashrate and with it the difficulty seems likely to chase the price up and also down, at least it should work that way on average.
Ok guys nice to see some heat in discussion
I wasn't clear enough. Of course I don't believe the ROI without trying to estimate next difficulty will be real, I am just using it as guide when buying and selling hashes short term, eg last week I purchased S4 at 0.0001 because theoretical ROI was under 130 days, today I sold them because the ROI at 0.00012 dropped to almost 200 so no reason to hold them anymore. Not necessary to use the word ROI at all, you can make calculations for 10 day yield for example and use it as guidance. I will now set S4 purchase at 0.00009 and wait again for another panic selling. The same over and over again...
How does the following sound?
Buying hash from the market and then buying more Hash with the payouts and selling hash when the Maintenance/Payout ratio is greater than 75%?
I initially bought 27 GH of S7 which I traded today for 66 GH of S5 with plans to buy more S5 Hash until the Maintenance/Payout ratio is greather than 75% in which case I move on to S7 or possibly a new model of miner.
Buying hash from the market and then buying more Hash with the payouts and selling hash when the Maintenance/Payout ratio is greater than 75%?
I initially bought 27 GH of S7 which I traded today for 66 GH of S5 with plans to buy more S5 Hash until the Maintenance/Payout ratio is greather than 75% in which case I move on to S7 or possibly a new model of miner.
Unfortunately we can't tell until when will the price go down. Guess there are more people who would like to get out of the mining activities that those who are being swayed with the CURRENT ROI levels.
Gone are the good ol' days where S5 prices are stable at more than 100k sats.
Gone are the good ol' days where S5 prices are stable at more than 100k sats.
Well, there you are
Jan 13 2016 113,354,299,801 +9.12% 811,421,684 GH/s
Estimated Next Difficulty: 125,052,314,952 (+10.32%)
Jan 13 2016 113,354,299,801 +9.12% 811,421,684 GH/s
Estimated Next Difficulty: 125,052,314,952 (+10.32%)
One more in the "S" series going to the hash cemetery. Go in peace S3...
Well, there you are
Jan 13 2016 113,354,299,801 +9.12% 811,421,684 GH/s
Estimated Next Difficulty: 125,052,314,952 (+10.32%)
Jan 13 2016 113,354,299,801 +9.12% 811,421,684 GH/s
Estimated Next Difficulty: 125,052,314,952 (+10.32%)
Crazy diff, BTC price very unstable, maintenance fees high and going up... Tough days...
Had to get back my investment, maybe I will be back soon. By now, trade and hold BTC looks more attractive.
Had to get back my investment, maybe I will be back soon. By now, trade and hold BTC looks more attractive.
He states it exactly: ROI is below 150 days RIGHT NOW. As nobody knows what will be next difficulty increases there is no sense trying to estimate them. But the current ROI as it is now is nice way to assess the hashnest prices. About 150 days gives good buffer to ROI before halving.
That's just not the case.
You don't have a 'buffer', because the ROI is _not_ 150 Days.
And the statement "no sense trying to estimate" could not be more wrong.
Of course you need to estimate. You can not just let out an essential variable.
To make it short: There is no chance to ROI with S5 before halving.
Except you are good at trading or BTC Price go up.
Of course. That´s how markets work. You try to anticipate future events, be ahead of the curve. It´s useless to look at current ROI and ignore the difficulty. I guess it´s up to the Bitcoin price how it develops. The hashrate and with it the difficulty seems likely to chase the price up and also down, at least it should work that way on average.
He states it exactly: ROI is below 150 days RIGHT NOW. As nobody knows what will be next difficulty increases there is no sense trying to estimate them. But the current ROI as it is now is nice way to assess the hashnest prices. About 150 days gives good buffer to ROI before halving.
That's just not the case.
You don't have a 'buffer', because the ROI is _not_ 150 Days.
And the statement "no sense trying to estimate" could not be more wrong.
Of course you need to estimate. You can not just let out an essential variable.
To make it short: There is no chance to ROI with S5 before halving.
Except you are good at trading or BTC Price go up.
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