Cryptonight or Pluck may worth a look too.
X11 is mined with FPGA so it may not be that good for GPU.
Topic: Hashrate Comparison on Scrypt-N, X11, Keccak, Quark, Groestl (Read 15046 times)
What are people getting on average for a AMD r9 280x on x11 ?
What Mining programs do you use & what settings ?
What Mining programs do you use & what settings ?
If anyone is interested:
Palit GTX 970 Jetstream:
X11 : 8M/hash
~Straw
Palit GTX 970 Jetstream:
X11 : 8M/hash
~Straw
Keccak is the best algorithim to GPU mine, hands down, and MaxCoin is the only viable Keccak coin. This is one of the major reasons I have been mining it uninterrupted for the past 90 days. My rig runs cool and spits out ridiculously fast hashrates. I can get 1GH/s with a measly 6 card NVIDIA GeForce gtx 750 TI rig that consumes approximately 680W. Whole thing can be run off a single 700W PSU. MaxCoin is awesome. No other altcoin even comes close.
But the price of Maxcoin has constantly gone down, and never will return.
Someone should do a comparison on a larger scale so that we can calculate for yourself in the future.
OK
Hashrate comparisons alone are arbitrary. As Adam Back (hashcash inc=ventor and genius cryptographer) has pointed out:
2x hashrate > 2x difficulty = status quo
Thus the whole "energy efficiency" thing is therefore something of a fallacy!
To decide which algo wins we must study their individual characters.
Groestl, as is used in Groestlcoin (the only Groestl PoW crypto), has such a unique characteristic. It shares a similar design to the AES S-Box and therefore its performance can be accelerated by AES implementations like AES-NI (Intel) and NEON (ARM). This helps to reduce the efficiency gap between CPU and GPU mining with Groestl. Groestl is the only algo with this S-box design.
To quote from an official Grøstl Team paper, see:
http://www.groestl.info/groestl-implementation-guide.pdf
efficient implementation techniques?
inspiration for further optimizations?
improvements, on x86 CPUs as well as on new platforms?
NEON byte permute instructions can be used to speed-up Grø stl on new ARM platforms?
Just wait to u get to the bit about bit-slicing…
Dev cbuchner1 of cudaminer/ccminer fame will soon be releasing his "killer groestl" implementation (based om bit-slice i believe). It will offer 3x speed for 2x energy at a bare min and prob much more.
AMD opts in the works…
In short, Groestl performs well on all platforms and thus democratizes (decentralizes) mining.
Good performance on many platforms is the measure of a good PoW algo.
Good performance on ARM could be revolutionary…
Ultimate PoW still waiting to be unleashed…
Check out Groestlcoin:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anngrs-groestlcoin-1st-to-activate-segwit-building-lightning-network-525926
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Hashrate comparisons alone are arbitrary. As Adam Back (hashcash inc=ventor and genius cryptographer) has pointed out:
2x hashrate > 2x difficulty = status quo
Thus the whole "energy efficiency" thing is therefore something of a fallacy!
To decide which algo wins we must study their individual characters.
Groestl, as is used in Groestlcoin (the only Groestl PoW crypto), has such a unique characteristic. It shares a similar design to the AES S-Box and therefore its performance can be accelerated by AES implementations like AES-NI (Intel) and NEON (ARM). This helps to reduce the efficiency gap between CPU and GPU mining with Groestl. Groestl is the only algo with this S-box design.
To quote from an official Grøstl Team paper, see:
http://www.groestl.info/groestl-implementation-guide.pdf
Quote
7 Conclusions
In this paper, we have shown the details of the currently best known Grø stl implementations. Using AES-NI extensions and AVX instructions, we are able to implement Grø stl-256 with close to 10 cycles/byte. Furthermore, the design of Grø stl also provides many possibilities for efficient implementation techniques. We have presented the most important methods and hope that they will serve as an inspiration for further optimizations. Especially the vperm implementation has some room for improvements, on x86 CPUs as well as on new platforms. For example, NEON byte permute instructions can be used to speed-up Grø stl on new ARM platforms
In this paper, we have shown the details of the currently best known Grø stl implementations. Using AES-NI extensions and AVX instructions, we are able to implement Grø stl-256 with close to 10 cycles/byte. Furthermore, the design of Grø stl also provides many possibilities for efficient implementation techniques. We have presented the most important methods and hope that they will serve as an inspiration for further optimizations. Especially the vperm implementation has some room for improvements, on x86 CPUs as well as on new platforms. For example, NEON byte permute instructions can be used to speed-up Grø stl on new ARM platforms
efficient implementation techniques?
inspiration for further optimizations?
improvements, on x86 CPUs as well as on new platforms?
NEON byte permute instructions can be used to speed-up Grø stl on new ARM platforms?
Just wait to u get to the bit about bit-slicing…
Dev cbuchner1 of cudaminer/ccminer fame will soon be releasing his "killer groestl" implementation (based om bit-slice i believe). It will offer 3x speed for 2x energy at a bare min and prob much more.
AMD opts in the works…
In short, Groestl performs well on all platforms and thus democratizes (decentralizes) mining.
Good performance on many platforms is the measure of a good PoW algo.
Good performance on ARM could be revolutionary…
Ultimate PoW still waiting to be unleashed…
Check out Groestlcoin:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anngrs-groestlcoin-1st-to-activate-segwit-building-lightning-network-525926
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Never heard of that. Would you be able to tell us the hashrate you can get from a 280x? Its not on Coinwarz.com so its hard to compare and find coins.
I don't mine myself (I'm a coder), but here's one comparison
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4274201
The Blakecoin thread has more info.
Should be able to hit 2.0 mh# with Quark on a 280x now.
The is an estimate I'll try to get a more accurate number .
The is an estimate I'll try to get a more accurate number .
We also need a list of electricity consumption and which is the most profit coin to mine currently 
Why not add Blake-256 for some bigger hashrates.
Never heard of that. Would you be able to tell us the hashrate you can get from a 280x? Its not on Coinwarz.com so its hard to compare and find coins.
So I thought I start this thread to help GPU miners be able to SYNC their Coinwarz.com page with proper speeds. Since Scrypt mining is pretty much dead for GPU, I am hoping you all contribute to this page.
Scrypt is dead for GPU's? Not sure how when x11 coins rank among the lowest in terms of profitability even without taking in to account power costs. Reports of now cheap FPGA farms raping x11 coins in China may be a reason why. There is also nothing that suggests x11 is any more ASIC resistant than scrypt was. The other algo offer even more efficiency than x11, but are still unproven as well. Here is a site that lists the profitability of different coins without taking in to account added costs.
https://cointweak.com/calculator/index/scrypt
No one suggested X11 is better than Scrypt. We are just comparing algos.
So far Kaccek seems to be the winner per graphic card.
A fairly large 280 x graphics fever
X11 mining operation method is very suitable for summer.
X11 mining operation method is very suitable for summer.
Why not add Blake-256 for some bigger hashrates.
So I thought I start this thread to help GPU miners be able to SYNC their Coinwarz.com page with proper speeds. Since Scrypt mining is pretty much dead for GPU, I am hoping you all contribute to this page.
Scrypt is dead for GPU's? Not sure how when x11 coins rank among the lowest in terms of profitability even without taking in to account power costs. Reports of now cheap FPGA farms raping x11 coins in China may be a reason why. There is also nothing that suggests x11 is any more ASIC resistant than scrypt was. The other algo offer even more efficiency than x11, but are still unproven as well. Here is a site that lists the profitability of different coins without taking in to account added costs.
https://cointweak.com/calculator/index/scrypt
740 - Scrypt
370 - Vert N (If you have 8 GB ram)
430 - Keccak
2.31 Megahash - X11
4.84 - Groestl
370 - Vert N (If you have 8 GB ram)
430 - Keccak
2.31 Megahash - X11
4.84 - Groestl
Thanks! I put those numbers in Coinwarz and it seems like Keccak has the lead in profitability followed by X11.
740 - Scrypt
370 - Vert N (If you have 8 GB ram)
430 - Keccak
2.31 Megahash - X11
4.84 - Groestl
370 - Vert N (If you have 8 GB ram)
430 - Keccak
2.31 Megahash - X11
4.84 - Groestl
So I thought I start this thread to help GPU miners be able to SYNC their Coinwarz.com page with proper speeds. Since Scrypt mining is pretty much dead for GPU, I am hoping you all contribute to this page.
So lets start with a R9 280x:
Please help fill out the blanks!
So lets start with a R9 280x:
- Scrypt: 740 kh/s
- Scrypt-N: 338 kh/s (thats the best I could get)
- X11: ?
- Keccak: ?
- Quark: ?
- Groestl: ?
Please help fill out the blanks!
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