Topic: Hate to Russia on EU level. (Read 2034 times)

People will not be able to live without benefits. When in the woods find a small animal and feed it, it will not be able to survive in the wild. And people. We had an accident and 14 hours there was no light. It is a serious test for me.

Is not about only of liberals, it's about of any marxist  policies ( most of socialists/leftists)  Look at UE (including my country ) and Scandinavian countries ( don't be fooled about high standards of living, the oil and natural gas from North See it will end ) Where it was Norway before 1985?
And don't confuse Soviet Union ( marxist-bolshevic) with the actual Russia.
In the past all occidental countries were against of socialism and now almost of them are ruled by socialists (including USA before of Trump)..lol..
If we are talking about capitalism vs comunism ( economic policies) no one of them are  perfect because both of them will distroy our planet. Both of them makes us to greedy. Both of them makes us to consume more and more. Look at industries look at Tourism, You think tourism is inofensive? tourism is one of the biggest polluters. If you don't have childrens you don't need to worry about it..you will die and that's it..but if you have childrens... you have to think..  we are learning  to be hedonist, and selfish. We can survive without internet, cars, tourism, tv, confort etc.. but we cannot survive without food, water, air, Earth! ( and I don't believe in global warming but pollution exist and natural and wild areas become smaller day by day. Thats' a big problem!  

To prove bribery it is always very difficult. After all, in the interests of both parties. Marie Le pen does not hide that her party sponsored by the Kremlin. Where are former chancellors of Germany? These are all signs of corruption.

Russian, ukrainian, american or "liberals" are always using baseless accusations. If you refuse to accept their words, then you are quickly falling into category of trolls, Putin agents, useful fools, trumpets, etc.. Quasi-liberal fools don't need any proof for their claims. It's a common feature of any liberal fool in any country.

Do you have any proof to claim that these European politicians are bribed by Russia? If they can be bribed, then that shows the weakness of the European Democracy. And BTW, I can also claim that the Russophobe politicians such as Angela Merkel, Andrzej Duda and François Hollande are bribed by the United States.

https://youtu.be/jMVDj5i1fLg

You say this because that was not in those countries. Russia is spending a lot of money to bribe politicians. So many of them make statements about friendship with Russia. The inhabitants of these countries are against. You listed countries which at one time was occupied by the Soviet Union. People remember what it is.

Even some of the NATO nations are neutral on this. Examples are countries such as Hungary, Bulgaria, and Italy. Also, once François Hollande is removed from office in France, that country will also shed its Russophobic image.

Where did u get that from? that whole world hates Russia? The countries that "hate" Russia are somewhat most of the NATO countries and maybe ex-soviet. Stop refering to "WHOLE WORLD" as US + EU (NATO countries...)

This is because the world is ruled by money. Each country thinks as they do not work in the case of a rupture of relations with Russia. They do not understand that if not to weaken the aggressor economically, during the war they lose more.

Once again, you need to refer this map. For your kind information "THE WORLD" is not equal to NATO+US ALLIES.



The most populous countries in the world (China and India) doesn't have any issues with Russia.

https://twitter.com/lavrovmuesli/status/804335669699022848

Well, if the world hates Russia, why all countries allow Russia to be the aggressor. Why offended countries simply remain silent and inactive? Maybe because everyone is happy that the order of things which now exists in the world

Perhaps it is time for you to take some geography lessons? "The World" doesn't mean the US and its puppet states such as Poland and Romania. "The World" means 200+ UN members, including China and India, where people hate the US much more than they hate any other country.

Just check this combatting guy.



Locals are kidnapped.






And in Donbass area of Former Ukraine are terrorists! (Slavyansk)



LOL

Here is the evidence how Donbass terrorists are torturing domestic animals.

Russia no one is at war officially. What kind of aggression you talking about? She attacked your country?

He's no even in the office yet, and I believe that he will work at making better relationships with Russia justbas hard as fighting illegal aliens. And you can see why the leftist political parties are loaing to the right wing ones, people are disgusted and bullied by the leftist and this migrant crisis was the drop before the last one that will spill the cup.

NATO is the biggest bully/terror organisation in the world and their propaganda againat Russia won't work anymore, people are starting to realise what their governments are doing around the world and they're slowly revolting against it.

Ahy do you think tht Russia is an enemy? Because it's not allowing itself to be bullied by NATO?

And why only on the EU level? Hate Russia all over the world. Everyone knows that Russia is the aggressor who hates the whole world. Until Russia will not change its leadership friendship with her will not be.

People can determine only what power it is to manage them. To decide which country will belong to the place where they live is not right. It is impossible to divide the existing state borders.

I think Poland should concentrate on getting Soros back from Venezuela because otherwise Obama might occupy Konigsberg. Kuril Islands used belong to France but because of the color revolution of 1896, they had to give them back to Taiwan. That's why Taiwan-EU trade pact failed last year and EU had to declare more sanctions against Russia.

If Poland is OK with the return of the East Prussia, Silesia, and Pomerania, then I believe that Russia should give back Konigsberg. And regarding the Kuril Islands, they were under the Japanese occupation for a relatively short period of time. The original occupants were the Ainu. And the ethnic Ainu now lives in both Russia and Japan. Let them decide about which country they want to be a part of.

You forgot in this long list to mention Konigsberg, the Kuril Islands. If you now start to find out who and what someone needs then it can lead to a world war. The boundaries must be approved by those that the state had upon registration with the UN.

Agreed. But that should apply to everyone. America must withdraw their forces from Germany and Japan first.

Also, according to your logic, Poland must hand back the territories such as Danzig - Westpreußen, Ostpreußen, Niederschlesien, and Oberschlesien to Germany. The Polish claim to these territories is even weaker than the Russian claim on Crimea.

When Poland annexed the four German provinces in 1945, they had a German population of around 95%. The native German population was expelled.

On the other hand, Crimea was a part of Russia until 1954, when it was given to Ukraine by an illegal decree. The native population remained majority Russian (right now around 70%), and despite the heavy Muslim immigration starting from 1989, the Muslim population is less than 13% right now.

Ohh, Crimea, before the integration with Russian Federation have proclaimed the independency.
In that way no one was captured.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_Independence_of_the_Republic_of_Crimea

No one allows himself to respond to the provocations by the capture of the territory of neighboring States. Obama just showed his weakness and at some point Russia feel impunity.

The only teeth russia has is called trump lol 

I don't care whether the NATO has placed missiles or not. My point was that it was NATO which started the provocations. If you provoke a bear by poking it with a stick, then it will bite. There is no point in claiming later that the response from the bear was disproportionate. Just stop the provocations, if you want no more animosity from Russia.

Id have to agree with you. Probably economies in specific countries tho, not the whole world

What the Russian government and their trolls can speak the truth? I never believe it. If I see that someone praises Russia I machine skip this post. Even if Russia makes something good I could not believe it.

Once again I can repeat if you do not understand. In his post, I responded to another Russian lie in that near its borders, the EU has placed their ballistic missiles. This is a lie and don't take the topic to the side.

Just a few months back, NATO conducted major military exercises in the Baltic nations and Poland, a few kilometers away from the Russian border. Adding to the provocation, they have imposed an informal blockade on the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad, which is situated between Poland and the Baltics. How do you expect Russia to react to these provocations?

But I wonder, where in the vicinity of Russia placed ballistic missiles the EU? What kind of nonsense you write? You show yourself as a clown! Your task is to write a lot of lies. If something cannot be disproved.

MOSCOW, November 25. /TASS/.
Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova has called on
OSCE Representative on Freedom of the Media Dunja Mijatovic
to thoroughly analyze the European Parliament’s resolution against anti-EU propaganda by third countries as her reaction to the document lacked specifics.
Zakharova channeled a letter to Mijatovic, the text of which was posted on the Russian foreign ministry’s Facebook account on Friday.
"I have read your first reaction to the European Parliament’s resolution on EU strategic communication to counteract propaganda against it by third parties of November 23," Zakharova wrote. "I think it lacks specifics as concerns professional assessment of this document which is unprecedented in terms of possible persecution measures against Russian mass media in the European Union countries."
"Russian mass media are literally equated to media structures of the terrorist organization Islamic State [outlawed in Russia - TASS] and other terrorist structures recognized as such by the United Nations," the spokeswoman noted.
The Russian diplomat admitted that the European Parliament’s activities are outside Mijatovic’s competences but she stressed that the document it passed undermines the basics of democratic relations in the sphere of the mass media and hence requires an adequate assessment by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe.
"Taking into account the current level of our cooperation, I strongly ask you to be unbiased in analyzing the resolution and possible implementation impacts on the future of Europe as a space of democracy and supremacy of law and give it a public assessment. Silence in this case would mean connivance to the worst, i.e. to official recognition of the expediency of persecution of the mass media," the spokeswoman stressed.


http://tass.com/politics/914741

Russia didn't alienated anyone. It is the other way around. It is the European Union, which alienated Russia. They were behind all the provocations, such as placing ballistic missiles close to the Russian border, and overthrowing democratically elected pro-Russian governments.

MOSCOW, November 24./TASS/.
Moscow hopes that no practical moves will follow after the EU Parliament’s resolution to counter propaganda of third countries, otherwise counter measures will be taken, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Thursday.



"We have to state with regret that attempts to demonize Russia don’t stop in the European Union, and this document cannot be called otherwise than paranoia," the diplomat said. "The document is overloaded with phobias, fictitious messages, myths, it reflects very explicitly the ideology that the EU has been cultivating towards Russia over the recent time," she said.

"This document compares the ‘propaganda war of the Kremlin’ waged against the East to propaganda means of the outlawed in Russia terrorist organization Islamic State," she noted.
"We have repeatedly stated that Russia is not conducting any anti-European propaganda. Russia is interested in seeing the European Union a strong, stable, predictable partner with which we would like to develop equal and mutually advantageous cooperation," Zakharova said.
"We hope that no practical decisions to restrict the activity of Russian media will follow after the resolution," the diplomat said. "There is a reason for such hope, as the approval of this document has triggered a colossal wave of rejection in the European Union itself," the diplomat went on.
"However, if practical moves are made under this document, countermeasures will follow," Zakharova said.
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http://tass.com/politics/914380

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Z0C3_Mhdc

Spokesperson for the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs Maria Zakharova hit out at Western “hysteria” and “empty accusations” from their institutions aimed at Russia, speaking from Moscow on Thursday, in reaction to the EU's approval of draft legislation to counteract so-called "anti-EU" propaganda.

The Russian Foreign Ministry had "stated, multiple times that there is no anti-EU propaganda from the Russian side" said the spokesperson. She added that if Europe decided to take this path, it would "prohibit the activity of mass media as its priority", tantamount to installing "transmitters at the borders of European countries with other countries, which will be broadcasting the propaganda of western values."

SOT, Maria Zakharova, Spokesperson for Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Russian): "This document compares, and I want to emphasise this, the so-called propaganda war of the Kremlin against the European Union to the propagandist methods of the Islamic State, a terrorist organisation which is prohibited in Russia. Colleagues, this is a clinical case. We have stated, multiple times, that there is no anti-EU propaganda from the Russian side. If the European Union has any internal problems, they should not look for reasons of propaganda by third parties, but to themselves."

SOT, Maria Zakharova, Spokesperson for Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Russian): "If Europe takes this path and will choose it as the main one, in particular, it will prohibit the activity of mass media as its priority. So honestly speaking, if this ideology prevails, it is very close to the installation of transmitters at the borders of European countries with other countries, which will be broadcasting the propaganda of western values. I am asking you to remember this since we will get back to this topic in some time even if I hope it doesn't happen. Maybe it will even come to the book burning, which somebody in the European Union will consider as not corresponding to the dominant ideology. Indeed, this has already happened in Europe."

SOT, Maria Zakharova, Spokesperson for Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Russian): "Remember what happened with the question of the journalist of the Russia Today TV Channel who tried to clarify with the US State Department which exact civic objects he meant when he said that they [the objects] were destroyed by the Russian Federation and the Syrian regime? Just one question - what exactly do you mean? Tell us names, geographical points and coordinates. Remember what happened? Hysteria, quite simply, which resulted in accusations of propaganda. What kind of propaganda is that? You [the US] never tell us the coordinates, dates, and locations of those objects which, according to you, were destroyed by Syrian army with Russia's aviation support. Never. Just words. Just empty accusations."

Russia surprisingly could alienate all countries, but it knows whom to bribe in order to reduce the damage from this amount of negativity. Experience of corruption in Putin's big. It helps him to survive.

In Europe, now gaining popularity of populist and nationalist sentiments. I think this is due to the crisis in the economy of the world. In any case, Europe is mindful that many countries have long been occupied by the Soviet Union.

If Merkel will deal with immigrants, in Germany you will not win. In France you can. France has always been a corrupt country. Suffice it to recall how they met Hitler's troops.

Once again, you are wrong. The German federal elections are due in a few months and it is almost certain that Angela Merkel will be defeated. Once the Russophobic Merkel is removed from power, the relations between Russia and Germany are going to improve.

The main voice in the EU is Germany, and it is absolutely not going to change its policy towards Russia. Even if the European Union disintegrates, Russia will not be easier. Sanctions will be extended.

LOL
The Russian Federation is not the part of EU and the EU sanctions on Syria in fuel supply affect not Russian Tankers.

How can you be so sure that the European Union is going to extend the sanctions? Doing so would require the unanimous support from all the member nations. Any of the members can veto this measure. So, look out for Hungary, Czech Republic, Greece, Bulgaria, and Italy next time, when the discussions for extending the sanctions occur.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7LMRGD9FG4

‘We are at war with Russia’: EU Parliament approves resolution to counter Russian media ‘propaganda’

MEPs in Strasbourg have voted on a non-legislative resolution which calls for the EU to “respond to information warfare by Russia.” RT and Sputnik news agency have been named among the most dangerous "tools of Russian propaganda."

MOSCOW, November 23. /TASS/.
The European Parliament’s resolution on the Russian media’s activities proves the fact that the Western countries’ perception of democracy has been degrading, Russian President Vladimir Putin said.

"If they take this decision (on fighting ‘Russia’s propaganda’), that means we are witnessing political degradation of democratic ideas in the Western society," Putin told reporters.
Earlier on Wednesday, the European Parliament adopted a resolution aimed at combating other countries’ propaganda, including Russia. The resolution mentions Russian TV channel RT, Sputnik agency, Russkiy Mir (or Russian World) Foundation and the Federal Agency for the Commonwealth of Independent States, Compatriots Living Abroad and International Humanitarian Cooperation (Rossotrudnichestvo).
In October, the European Parliament's Committee on Foreign Affairs approved a report on combating propaganda which named the Russian media one of the main threats.

http://tass.com/politics/914160

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF8xMhhfzgk
 RT Editor-in-Chief slams hypocrisy of EP 'propaganda' resolution
RT News Channel Editor-in-Chief Margarita Simonyan slammed “how easily the European establishment gives away its own principles” on Wednesday from Moscow, following the European Parliament's (EP) adoption of a draft resolution intended to counteract so-called anti-EU “propaganda”.

Simonyan said “now we see that this holy principle of freedom of speech is not really needed and looks scary to the Europeans themselves. This is very, very sad.”

Earlier in the day, the EP in Strasbourg voted to adopt a resolution which calls on the EU to combat so-called propaganda disseminated by third parties.

Ohh. We have just seen this proofs, the washing powder.

And what proof is needed? A receipt for the money? I think that such evidence is in the CIA. Just as always, they are holding these data until they need them. And we can argue as much as necessary and each will have its own truth.

Ohh, what a proof. You are a genious.

In 2015-2016 in Russia there was a fall in incomes by 15%. This happens due to the fact that a lot of money spent on such ventures of the Kremlin. I think that soon the money will start to end. The margin of safety of the Russian economy is not so big.

Wow.
Mary Le Pen is a Separatist activist?
What a surprise!

Who is as "similar situation" in Italy?
Ohh, we in EU need this precious info about separatists.

For you that the news that Russia is financing the party of Marie Le Pen? She does not hide that its purpose is the collapse of the Eurozone and that Moscow financed it. In Italy a similar situation.

Fucking Hell!
Explain please better about this issue to all us.

As soon as Russia stops funding the separatists in Europe, all these pseudo parties will cease to exist. People probably have forgotten the experience of the Soviet Union which ceased to Finance Europe and all countries turned away from him. Russia is even weaker.

You can rest assured that Europe will not support the lifting of sanctions. Today, Merkel said that Russia and Assad deliberately bombed hospitals. Starts the investigation into the delivery of Russian jet fuel to bypass the sanctions.

Russia very early happy. Trump has not made any friendly action towards Russia. I think that after his inauguration, his rhetoric will become tougher. It will put pressure on Europe to strengthen NATO army there and sell American weapons. Better suited for this common enemy Russia.

The Russophobes are losing their battle. In the US, Trump won the elections against the Russophobe Hillary. In Moldova and Bulgaria, pro-Russian politicians won the presidential elections. In Estonia, a pro-Russian party was included in the governing coalition for the first time ever. And in Germany, the anti-Russian Merkel is sliding towards oblivion.

STRASBROURG, November 23. /TASS/.
European Parliament crosses the red line as it discusses a draft resolution on counteraction thirds parties’ propaganda, Latvian MEP Tatjana Zdanoka said on Tuesday night as she took the floor at the parliament’s plenary session in Strasbourg.
She pointed out the European Parliament had passed resolutions criticizing the Russian people and Russia in the past, too, but the text as abusive in terms of form and contents as the one of the aforesaid resolution was something new for the European Parliament.
The resolution ran counter to the principle of freedom of the mass media, she said, adding that while the European Parliament claimed Russia was utilizing a range of instruments like multi-language channels, other countries resorted to similar methods as well as
"It’s impossible to understand what happens if you watch only channels like CNN, BBC, Euronews," she said.
The EU’s High Representative for Foreign and Security Policy Federica Mogherini said in the course of debates on the draft resolution the EU counter-propaganda policy aimed to improve the situation with plurality in the media in the East and South and to promulgate the necessary networks, which would help journalists to their job.
On October 10, the European Parliament’s committee of foreign affairs endorsed a report on counteraction to propaganda. The document titled ‘EU Strategic Communication to Counteract Propaganda Against It by Third Parties’ and drafted by Polish MEP Anna Fotyga accuses Russia of a long range of alleged follies and transgressions like the spreading of "disinformation and propaganda seeking to maintain or increase Russia’s influence to weaken and split the EU".
Specifically, the report alleges that "(…) a large part of the Kremlin’s hostile propaganda is aimed at describing some European countries as belonging to ‘Russia’s traditional sphere of influence’, thereby undermining their sovereignty and deeply rooted European identity, which in the past has been undermined by communist regimes".
It also speaks of "Russian backing of anti-EU forces in the EU with regard, in particular, to extreme-right parties, populist forces and movements that deny the basic values of liberal democracies."
The authors of the resolution insist that one of Russia’s "main strategies is to circulate and impose an alternative narrative, often based on a manipulated interpretation of historical events and aimed at justifying its external actions and geopolitical interests."
Last but not least, Ms. Fotyga claims the Kremlin
"(…) wants to present itself as the only defender of traditional Christian values".
Her report contains a long enough list of what she believes to be the tools use in "Russian efforts to disrupt the EU integration process", including "think tanks and special foundations (e.g. Russkiy Mir), special authorities (Rossotrudnichestvo), multilingual TV stations (e.g. RT), pseudo news agencies and multimedia services (e.g. Sputnik)," as well as "social media and internet trolls".
The latter label is applied in the West to virtually any internet users who come up with comments in support of Russia’s position.

http://tass.com/world/914034