On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
Then we could think also that this market is already been manipulated. We are in bullish last 2017, adding 4 years interval...therefore, we could expect that Bullrun will happen in 2021? I don't think that we've been played by this manipulation, coz I believe that we're not. The market is still volatile and ain't makes no change. 
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On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
In my mind when bitcoin price pumped, then it will be pumped. Because if me know that bitcoin will have interval time to pumped, or maybe other people can know it, he must can be very rich. My strategy still always same with buy at rumour sell at news. Because before time for the big event come, it is time to bitcoin get hyped. 
On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
Your statement will be more convincing if you have a specific analysis of what you say. But unfortunately, you make a statement without any evidence so no one here will believe what you said. And me too, this market is unpredictable and prices can go up or down at any time. But this year Bitcoin will be halving so I think we will increase instead of decrease as you thinkHe didn't share his complete analysis with us, but I understand what he wish to say. I think it's easy to notice how crypto-news
follow some up or down trends, and that is what news do, they report about current events. Higher price rise, or big drop is what
attracts people I think, drama that TIDOVEE talks about.
Killerfrost I don't see nothing about Bitcoin price decreasing. In long-term price of Bitcoin will increase, but in the mean time
price will fluctuate just like until now.
On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
Are you implying we don't necessarily need institutions' money for us to make the next bull-run? I think both circumstances are needed to make the next hallmark. But in all, let's hope we get the bull run we deserve, we've been working and hodling so hard and this market ain't as supportive as we need.
I don't think the 4 year cycle is random. I think it is linked to the 4 year cycle of the halving like others on this forum have said before. There is a reason for that pattern and I think we can use that to our advantage.
The whole crypto sphere is already using that pattern, including to some altcoins who also have a halvin schedule like Litecoin. It rallies always pretty hard, just to fall down to previous levels. However that is always a good time to trade and make some more Bitcoins.
The LTC/BTC chart pump and dump due to its halving on the 5th of August.2019:
Well come to know this when finally all coins are mined and halving will stop which miners will just keep mining transaction fees. Right now Prices keeps going up almost every halving which coincidentally is every 4 years as well, you can say halving is much of a reason why price go up for the supply can't cope up with the demand.
I don't think the 4 year cycle is random. I think it is linked to the 4 year cycle of the halving like others on this forum have said before. There is a reason for that pattern and I think we can use that to our advantage.
On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
Your statement will be more convincing if you have a specific analysis of what you say. But unfortunately, you make a statement without any evidence so no one here will believe what you said. And me too, this market is unpredictable and prices can go up or down at any time. But this year Bitcoin will be halving so I think we will increase instead of decrease as you thinkHe didn't share his complete analysis with us, but I understand what he wish to say. I think it's easy to notice how crypto-news
follow some up or down trends, and that is what news do, they report about current events. Higher price rise, or big drop is what
attracts people I think, drama that TIDOVEE talks about.
Killerfrost I don't see nothing about Bitcoin price decreasing. In long-term price of Bitcoin will increase, but in the mean time
price will fluctuate just like until now.
Well come to know this when finally all coins are mined and halving will stop which miners will just keep mining transaction fees. Right now Prices keeps going up almost every halving which coincidentally is every 4 years as well, you can say halving is much of a reason why price go up for the supply can't cope up with the demand.
On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
Your statement will be more convincing if you have a specific analysis of what you say. But unfortunately, you make a statement without any evidence so no one here will believe what you said. And me too, this market is unpredictable and prices can go up or down at any time. But this year Bitcoin will be halving so I think we will increase instead of decrease as you think On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
We'll appreciate if you can post your analysis because this is something new for me or to us, there is no specific time on the bull because the market heavily relies on the news and events and I don't think that the four year interval is even close to that unless you show us a solid proof, and I'm not entertained on the bear market drama.
On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
This crypto events are here to give more awareness to the people. I do not think they are just dramas (except the CW case claiming to be Satoshi) because they contribute on what Bitcoin is today. Aside from that adoption also raises the bar of adoption for Bitcoin and somehow help with the demand in the market. They are not only entertainment but a real life case where Bitcoin is being utilized in real life.
Some says it's after halving, but we need to consider the changes that happens in crypto market now. There's a lot of changes within that 4 years like banning, multiple scamming projects that affects the investors trust and different countries not accepting crypto.
I think the 4-year interval isn't very accurate at all because there's a lot that has happened and I'm sure a lot will still happen in the future even in a span of 1 year. If in case there's indeed a 4-year interval now it may be a coincidence but it is not 100% that it will be a 4-year interval all the time if it is that easy then a lot of people would be millionaires in no time.
I get where OP thinks the bull cycles are on a 4-year timer, but that's not necessarily true. He's probably just looking at the ten year chart for bitcoin and if so then that's what it would appear to be, but I'd point out that 10 years is a very short time frame when looking at a chart of anything. Whether that pattern repeats or not, I wouldn't bank on it happening again and again. Bitcoin is as unpredictable an investment as it gets.
Keep telling myself this. 10 years is nothing in the scheme of things, and at most, only shows us 3 good cycles to examine. 2 is the minimum for a pattern to form and 3 is the minimum to have that pattern repeated... so we basically are working with the bare minimum of assumptions that a pattern has been established and a cycle is in repeat.
And then we also work on data that is for me not of high quality, since the early years, markets were too small, data was only provided by a few, and simply wasn't global enough. I would go as far as saying that anything pre 2015 should be regarded as very weak, near-unuseable data.
Of course, I still believe in the cycle. But I'm not betting my soul on it;)
On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
A lot of these news are most likely purposefully put out in order to persuade markets in a certain direction - Bakkt, ETF approvals, etc. etc. which have absolutely no real life implications but have short term implications on price on which speculators can make money off of.
But what you say has some truth to it.
A lot of short term news are simply noise with no long term implications to BTC's fundamentals, which is the driver of price in the long term.
Really?
They are that patient to wait another four years to make another drama?
Korean or Japanese drama?
I don't think so. You might have predicted it right but that doesn't mean it is 100 percent accurate.
Besides, where is your proof? I cannot see any link? You just blast some statements without backing it up.
They are that patient to wait another four years to make another drama?
Korean or Japanese drama?
I don't think so. You might have predicted it right but that doesn't mean it is 100 percent accurate.
Besides, where is your proof? I cannot see any link? You just blast some statements without backing it up.
On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
We're not yet entertain, we are still far from an all time high.
If the four year cycle holds true, then 2021 is the year that we are going to be entertain (again!).
So let's wait and see for the next chapter of BTC, entertain or not, we're still here, thru thick and thin, ups and down, bulls and bears. And now that this is block halvin year, everyone is really busy and getting excited and wait till the next big bull run.
If you are trying to find the patter, don't, there isn't any. Bull run can happen any time but very often is hard to determine if we are having real one. The more you trying to make some analysis, the more is likely that you will create some conspiracy theory like you did and find something hidden where there isn't any.
That's what some people include on their technical analysis, looking at the historical data finding out patterns and I've heard enough of the 3 year or 4 year bull pattern. I even believed this in some point of my investment journey in cryptocurrency, but found out it's irrelevance on the latter. Not even the news and article writers in cryptocurrency gave us accurate info regarding the price movements.
On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
Four years interval/cycle is obviously due to halving mechanism and I just wonder how masterfully Mr.Satoshi planned and implemented things to make bitcoin versatile and mainstaream capable payment processor. Yes, it is really entertaining but we cannot be sure about this cycle will repeat only for every four years.Yes, this cycle takes four years time due to the current number of adopters and investors but in future when more people into bitcoin ecosystem, time span of this cycle will be shorten which will eventually lead to sustaining prices after decades. This is how exactly old prices are doing after existing for 1000+ years.
On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
So are you also saying that Satoshi also arranged it?So all of this has been planned all along?
I don't think so for me it is just a coincident because if it was planned then maybe all of the whales has been playing a huge role for it.
Since bitcoin was first launched until now it shows a bullish trend from the initial opening price of $ 1. Not only intervals of 4 years. You have to understand that they do it that way to take advantage of circumstances to buy bitcoin. What are you looking for? Yes clearly the capital gains from buying bitcoin, the concept is that simple. Because the adoption of bitcoin is still not fully utilized by the public.
On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
Four years interval in terms of Bitcoin bull runs? Or are you referring to the entire cryptocurrency market bull run? Either way, you missed measuring that the last strongest bull run happened in 2017. That is only 3 years ago. And after that, Bitcoin has actually climbed from $3,000ish to $14,000 plus. That was considered a bull run for me although not as strong to break the 2017 ATH.
Agree, however the OP seems to state that at exactly four years there will be a bullrun. Which is not since bullrun could happen at anytime means randomly. I bet he want to state the halving's bullrun, instead? Or which can be considered to have 4 years interval.
Anyway, hey OP, would mind sharing us your studies? For us to discuss it further.
If you are trying to find the patter, don't, there isn't any. Bull run can happen any time but very often is hard to determine if we are having real one. The more you trying to make some analysis, the more is likely that you will create some conspiracy theory like you did and find something hidden where there isn't any.
2017 is not even 3 years ago, it was 2017 "December" which means just about a month ago so it is basically 25 months or so and not 3 years. The interval of 4 years usually talked about in the regard where price goes up, then goes down hard, then goes up slightly more than goes up again highly, so there is an interval but it is not really that common, just so far it has happened twice in 8 years so people assume it will continue to happen.
Just to give an example 2014 was high, 2015 was low, 2016 got better, 2017 was high, 2018 was low, 2019 got better, so everyone expected 2020 to be high as well with that logic, just because it has historically happened doesn't mean it will certainly happen again as well. Maybe it will happen, I am not saying it won't, but it won't happen because of the cycle, it will happen because of halving probably.
Just to give an example 2014 was high, 2015 was low, 2016 got better, 2017 was high, 2018 was low, 2019 got better, so everyone expected 2020 to be high as well with that logic, just because it has historically happened doesn't mean it will certainly happen again as well. Maybe it will happen, I am not saying it won't, but it won't happen because of the cycle, it will happen because of halving probably.
On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
Bull run markets can occur at any time during the development of this market. It doesn't follow any rules and your claims are baseless. The bull run market started in 2017, then it took a year for the correction and now the bull run has continued. As long as the market has a lot of positive news and many investors are interested in this market, bull run will surely happen. 
There's nothing really weird about the Bakkt announcements though. It was a disappointment, yes, it's initial launch didn't bring about the results that most of us expected since the news was especially hyped by a tad bit too much, but most of us ( if not all ) acknowledged the ability of Bakkt to influence the market in the long run. It breaking all time highest in trading volumes isn't really anything new. Plus, it isn't really anything arranged of the sort, just that Bakkt was more used than other exchanges, that's it. Simple as that.
Soon bakkt can be a help. It maybe a dissapointment now but soon it may improve and have a good performance that may benefit the market. Regarding the 4 year interval of OP it may be coincidence but the market is volatile and it needs some growth which is happening now.
Only toxic, evil people linked to the fiat system will find it funny to see bitcoin fail.
So no, I dont find any entertainment on it.
So no, I dont find any entertainment on it.
There's nothing really weird about the Bakkt announcements though. It was a disappointment, yes, it's initial launch didn't bring about the results that most of us expected since the news was especially hyped by a tad bit too much, but most of us ( if not all ) acknowledged the ability of Bakkt to influence the market in the long run. It breaking all time highest in trading volumes isn't really anything new. Plus, it isn't really anything arranged of the sort, just that Bakkt was more used than other exchanges, that's it. Simple as that.
Likewise the CME futures were a pretty disappointment from the beginning with low volumes and the other futures from CBOE who already got shut down. New systems need to time to be adopted by the big players and now CME seems to be in charge of the market direction, and on top of that introduced more options to trade with leverage some magic dollar number of a bitcoin.
I hope Bakkt will still catch on, due to the much higher soundness of their service idea.
Back to topic: My entertainment levels are pretty satisfied with these large 5 min candle swings up and down. Pretty enjoyable to watch as long as we continue to move up.
There's nothing really weird about the Bakkt announcements though. It was a disappointment, yes, it's initial launch didn't bring about the results that most of us expected since the news was especially hyped by a tad bit too much, but most of us ( if not all ) acknowledged the ability of Bakkt to influence the market in the long run. It breaking all time highest in trading volumes isn't really anything new. Plus, it isn't really anything arranged of the sort, just that Bakkt was more used than other exchanges, that's it. Simple as that.
Bull runs like 4 years interval? First time hearing that a bull run actually likes the number 4. Bakkt is old news. It's recent announcements are because its an exchange, ofc it wants to add features that would entice users to use their exchange. And we all know that Bakkt was an exchange that would affect the entire cryptoscene in the long term, so it being announced in the news every now and then isn't anything weird at all. Plus, even if it were news that were just meant to keep us entertained, the market would still move on, and I doubt traders would be so blind to not see anything weird happening to the market.
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I am not sure if the bull run has intervals because if the bull run happens this year or in the next year, we have intervals 2-3 years from 2017-2018, and it's not 4 years as you say. But no matter if that is 4 years or not, if bitcoin price can increase higher, that will give us the biggest profit again as we saw in 2017-2018. We will be back to make a lot of money from bitcoin because many people predict that bitcoin will be more than $20k. But all of us have different analysis for what will happen later, so lets we wait for what will happen later.
I think a bull run always happens when nobody expects it. In this case people never turned bearish after 19k. There was always this "btc will be 100k next"... Before 19k we always had phases where 90% of the people were saying bitcoin is death.
This is basically the surprises that are eminent with an uncontrolled market. Because of the 2017 experience, nobody can say precisely whee price will shift to. Most people are seating on the face and being careful about their investment maybe till after halving.
On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
2 major loops/bubbles are far from enough to be certain about a rule.
Bakkt.. is just another company. Of course they have paid for some news here and there to increase awareness. There's also the possibility that some big players may have been also using Bakkt news (and all ETF related news) now and then to influence the price in their favor.
If you are trading wannabe you'll be very busy. If you are long time holder you'll get entertained or maybe bored.
Whatever you choose, make sure you understand that too much stress is not good for health
(hence I'd go for HODLing if one affords it, but keep in mind that this is a speculation thread) 
Four years interval.
You mean to say the halving?
So the last one was July 2016 but the bull came at December of 2017. It took a year and a half for it to be fruitful?
Are you saying that we will be seeing another bull October of 2021?
Where is your study? I only look at the last 20 posts you made. Lazy in digging more beyond that.
Could you put a link please?
You mean to say the halving?
So the last one was July 2016 but the bull came at December of 2017. It took a year and a half for it to be fruitful?
Are you saying that we will be seeing another bull October of 2021?
Where is your study? I only look at the last 20 posts you made. Lazy in digging more beyond that.
Could you put a link please?
99% of the crypto news are clickbait crypto drama.
And a lot of it is inaccurate as well, which is why I generally don't visit crypto news sites. Some of the writing is downright lousy in addition to being inaccurate clickbait, so there's no winning if you're a reader looking for info. I don't find such drivel to be entertaining, nor do I look to be entertained when reading news, unless it's obviously a tabloid site or something like that.I get where OP thinks the bull cycles are on a 4-year timer, but that's not necessarily true. He's probably just looking at the ten year chart for bitcoin and if so then that's what it would appear to be, but I'd point out that 10 years is a very short time frame when looking at a chart of anything. Whether that pattern repeats or not, I wouldn't bank on it happening again and again. Bitcoin is as unpredictable an investment as it gets.
Some says it's after halving, but we need to consider the changes that happens in crypto market now. There's a lot of changes within that 4 years like banning, multiple scamming projects that affects the investors trust and different countries not accepting crypto.
It is easy to say that but what's your basis? Can you give us the full detail of your study that proves that the bull run happens in a 4-year interval? Honestly, there has been a lot of speculations going on that is just by mere observation but no thorough analysis, a lot has been babbling about this and that and you adding to that trend isn't very helpful. This type of assumption can just create confusion most especially to those newbies who are still trying to learn the trend in cryptocurrency. Don't get me wrong, it's fine to make predictions but make sure you site your basis to make it look believable.
On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
This is not guaranteed that 2021 will be a bull run, since 2017 a bull run. 2017 been too fast that it will be hard to achieved again, same with there are too many regulations now that will affect the movement of the market. 
On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
I never think news is to entertain me. But news really followed by bitcoin price either it is good or bad news. About interval pump, i think there are no actual time when bitcoin price pumped. And i just follow what market will bring my bitcoin value into.
Your "research" is worse than any and all of the influencer analyses put out there on a daily basis... But probably just as (in)accurate.
Of course everything out there is for entertainment. Why else does every guy of note out there say something for you to like and share? Why do terms get so popular every few year cycle or so?
Fresh faced Ivy League guys put on a suit, bring a funny story about how they got into the game, use a swag phrase like "skin in the game"... Get their Partner title in some company and spill their spiel out into the ether for us to eat and regurgitate.
I'm not entertained. But happy to let these cycles come and wash over me and my simple bitcoin thoughts.
Of course everything out there is for entertainment. Why else does every guy of note out there say something for you to like and share? Why do terms get so popular every few year cycle or so?
Fresh faced Ivy League guys put on a suit, bring a funny story about how they got into the game, use a swag phrase like "skin in the game"... Get their Partner title in some company and spill their spiel out into the ether for us to eat and regurgitate.
I'm not entertained. But happy to let these cycles come and wash over me and my simple bitcoin thoughts.
I don't get what exactly are you trying to say with your post.
99% of the crypto news are clickbait crypto drama.From a blogger/journalist's perspective drama really sells.
Have we been entertained?No,and there's no point to seek entertainment in the crypto world.
Just ignore the crypto news and focus on the upcoming bitcoin bull rally.
99% of the crypto news are clickbait crypto drama.From a blogger/journalist's perspective drama really sells.
Have we been entertained?No,and there's no point to seek entertainment in the crypto world.
Just ignore the crypto news and focus on the upcoming bitcoin bull rally.
I think a bull run always happens when nobody expects it. In this case people never turned bearish after 19k. There was always this "btc will be 100k next"... Before 19k we always had phases where 90% of the people were saying bitcoin is death.
On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
Four years interval in terms of Bitcoin bull runs? Or are you referring to the entire cryptocurrency market bull run? Either way, you missed measuring that the last strongest bull run happened in 2017. That is only 3 years ago. And after that, Bitcoin has actually climbed from $3,000ish to $14,000 plus. That was considered a bull run for me although not as strong to break the 2017 ATH.
On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
Will you state your sources on your study and analysis right now? Bull run is not necessary 4 years interval in which you are saying that every four years of the cryptocurrency there will be an assurance that cryptocurrency will have a bull run which is no. We all know that bull run is not necessary happening already unless something or someone will triggered it to start a rapid increasing and pumping up of every coin as well as the ripples, bitcoin and altcoins. I think this is not so what you called crypto-drama because if it was just a crypto drama then the big whales will not spend their time to control the market and etc.
On my study and analysis, I discovered that the bull runs like four years interval, and with this too,if you observe it is planning to confirm my analysis. Now, all the news about baktt advances breaking and all the likes, are they just crypto-drama or arranged news to keep us busy and entertained?
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