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Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink
Friends are used to joke and play regard many things and one of those things is to bet if a determined event is going to happen or not. It means friends say things without thinking carefully about their words. As consequence, an absurd bet may be "placed", but only on the heat of the moment, without imagining a future scenario where that bet must be honored.

I think if someone gets angry or enraged if his friend doesn't fulfill that kind of bet, he is being childish, because since the first time there was never a genuine intention of fufilling it. And if this matter is becoming an issue between the friends in a frequent basis, then it's better that they stop playing around about gambling on trivial events, and focus their conversations on another subjects.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink
At first I won't blame your friend for not honoring your agreement but you could have reminded him at least to have it in mind that you guys bet on something and the fun should be completed instead of him not responding to you as your bet club won the match. You can also tell him that for the fun to complete he needs to stand to agreement, then let him say that he won't gonna pay or anything else then you would know a kind of person he is. Usually while going on live with such bet there should be a someone who will hold both funds from you guys to pay off immediately the game played against any of you then he will also refund to the winner instead to hold a long argument between both of you.

Yes, one thing I noticed from this betting scenario is that it should be like you said that the OP should remind his friend not to break his promise, and I don't think that's something that is prohibited to do because after all the betting scenario is based on the agreement of both parties, and another thing that I think is very important is that there should be a third party involved in the betting scenario, like you said, because then there will be a neutral party who is tasked with making sure that the bet and the agreement goes well according to the previous agreement. And also honestly I'm not sure if his friend forgot the agreement when the team he chose lost, one thing I will say is that gambling can tell us whether they are a loser or not.
Let me just say that they aren't serious with the bet because if it's a professional way of betting or that involves more people there wouldn't had been any bridge of agreement Because the parties involved wouldn't allow it to happen. So it's advisable to not gamble with people who can't keep there words as previously agreed otherwise they could make you lose huge money at their reckless and nonchalant irresponsible attitudes.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink
Bets and friendships are very dangerous combinations and if the bet is not agreed upon in detail it is very easy to create a disagreement or even the end of the friendship.
You were right not to charge him, even though you were within your rights, but on the other hand, fighting over 2 snacks and putting a long-standing friendship at risk doesn't seem like a good idea, but you have the right to evaluate friendship based on a bet.
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Often bet with friends on a sports match even bet on something that doesn't make sense. But my friend and I always keep our promises according to the previous agreement. So that when one day we want to bet again, both parties do not doubt each other.
But in the future, I currently avoid betting with friends and the reason is quite simple because I realize that money can ruin good relationships with our friends. It is better to bet on online sites than to bet with friends but end up being enemies.

I have a principle of not betting with my close friends because I don't want any monetary misunderstanding to come up between us and end up spoiling our long term relationship which is very possible. So, I try to avoid betting with a blossom friend or family of mine instead I prefer to go into bets with far friends and strangers. There I don't have any relationship to ruin or scatter.

In the event that I do otherwise and try to engage in gambling with a close friend,I will ensure that I do that with sincerity of purpose. I respect and hold my integrity with high esteem, therefore, I find it very difficult to divulge on promises. Oh yes, I don't play with any thing that will ridicule my relationship with a friend or tarnish my image in the eyes of the world.
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I used to play cards with my cousins when I was younger during the holidays. We would stay up all night playing cards, the stakes were ridiculous. We didn’t bet money, the loser was made to drink two cups of water. It’s all fun and games until you are the one losing five times in a row and you can’t drink any more water. If you can’t drink anymore, your only saving grace is if someone volunteers to help you drink. It was a game amongst us but it was pretty serious as no one wanted to kill the fun of the game.

If I had a bet with a friend, I’d make sure to remind him to honor the bet we made no matter how small or big the stakes are.
Awesome purnsiment for the loser, I am also familiar with this kind of games, when you don't want to involve real money, something the losers are meant to clean the House or wash the ditches for sometimes, in my own Case the loser get to do all the house ditches for a week, this purnisment made us to take the game more seriously, and in other to remain active in the home.


In the ops case, the friend just simply forget about the bet and was carried away with the excitement of the game that is why he did not request for his bill's to get settled by the loser in the first place, so ops should just count himself lucky as far as this case is concerned, because most other friends will take it serious until he gets to settle whatever that have been staken.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement.
He is your friend, and why do you have to be shy? Gambling like this is always interesting, and I do prefer we watch the match together. Immediately after the match ends, I will remind the person about the bet that we placed, and he should fulfill it. Sometimes if we bet and I win, I will remind the person that the bet is in favor of me, but I don’t really ask them to fulfill their promise, but I am not always shy to tell them they lose, and I win.
 
Since the person is your friend, you don’t have to be shy, you will ask him to forget about the agreement you people had, but I see no reason why you have to be shy since you called the person your friend, and I am sure arguments is what’s going to make you guys place that kind of bet.
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in my area those who do not keep their word are called very unflatteringly Smiley if you can not settle an argument it is better not to argue. Yes, there were situations when a person did not keep his word in an argument and after that we did not communicate for a long time, over time he realized that he was wrong and admitted his defeat. My advice is very simple: do not argue with loved ones, the result can greatly disappoint you.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink
At first I won't blame your friend for not honoring your agreement but you could have reminded him at least to have it in mind that you guys bet on something and the fun should be completed instead of him not responding to you as your bet club won the match. You can also tell him that for the fun to complete he needs to stand to agreement, then let him say that he won't gonna pay or anything else then you would know a kind of person he is. Usually while going on live with such bet there should be a someone who will hold both funds from you guys to pay off immediately the game played against any of you then he will also refund to the winner instead to hold a long argument between both of you.

Yes, one thing I noticed from this betting scenario is that it should be like you said that the OP should remind his friend not to break his promise, and I don't think that's something that is prohibited to do because after all the betting scenario is based on the agreement of both parties, and another thing that I think is very important is that there should be a third party involved in the betting scenario, like you said, because then there will be a neutral party who is tasked with making sure that the bet and the agreement goes well according to the previous agreement. And also honestly I'm not sure if his friend forgot the agreement when the team he chose lost, one thing I will say is that gambling can tell us whether they are a loser or not.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

I think these bets are more of a friendly matter rather than official ones we place against the bookmakers. In such cases I think we should be tolerant enough to let whatever decision to be made by the "losing" party at their sole discretion if you don't want to lose a friend. That is why I never believe in bets between 2 humans who are friends to each other, sure you may pool your resources to place an official bet on the casinos you play and don't go betting against each other as it makes no sense to do so when there are thousand of casinos already there to just offer such service. I have had such experiences before when I was in university back in the days of 2000-s and I didn't push it on my friend, he paid and I didn't took his money as said to him we are just having fun, if we want to bet we go to the lotto club.
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I have come to think of this as anybody that is close with some of their friends and family and play such games is  a form of love, affection , bond building or whatever you can call it..and the funny thing is that nobody pays up because its always fun and games but should you push it that your buddy pays up.. be rest assured that someone will be getting the silent treatment, otherwise am usually playing these kind of wagers with family and friends just to test their sporting knowledge or see how lucky they can be...

Otherwise, rules of the game is that business and pleasure should never fix especially when it comes to family and friends.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink
You should have reminded him about his loss, most of the time what matters is not what you won with your bet, but the fact that you could outsmart your friend and you can relish on it for some time, however when the bet is something so small there is no issue, but we have seen stories on the past in which the bet between the friends was way more intense and once one of them refused to pay this put a strain upon their friendship, and even if at some point the person that lost fulfilled his side of the bargain, the friendship will never really be the same after the incident.
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But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink
This is one reason why you don't have to gamble with relatives because the final round would always bridge and bloodline.

This is only going to be fun when you have some invaluable such as the eatable on the stakes or likely to be the daring games.

I think the only there is that he just took it for a play since he wasn't sure of the outcome. On a norm there should be a concrete words to seal their bets maybe either already paid for the snacks and let them watch the match to see whom to win, I also like what you said not to gamble with family or closed friends because emotions can be attached and wouldn't take it so serious to force him to pay the snacks or whatever.
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Yes I did something like that I support Argentina during the World Cup and I have a friend who is a Brazil supporter I bet with him on almost every match where Argentina or Brazil played.  Our agreement was that if Argentina won, he would give me a treat and if Brazil won, I would give him a treat.  But we both kept our word and gave both treats as per the agreement.  Such a bet is great fun, but if it is of a large amount, it can sometimes destroy a good relationship.  Money is very important thing and many times our relationship is ruined for money
The fun of that game was complete each time the match came to an end and one of you had to take the next person for the treat. Why you are out; most of the conversation you guys will share will be based on the match that just ended and how one of your clubs messed up the other. The conversation will continue as long as there is mutual agreement. Such a type of betting appears to be one of the best, as it also contributes to bringing out the love a fan has for his supporting team.
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But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink
This is one reason why you don't have to gamble with relatives because the final round would always bridge and bloodline.

This is only going to be fun when you have some invaluable such as the eatable on the stakes or likely to be the daring games.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink
Gambling is gambling and gambling is only gambling when you stake something and either win or lose along the line, also we should take into conginance the fact that some of those bet like the one you mentioned are basically not taken serious most times so at that you asked r your firenmay likely not take it serious.

But I know some groups of gamblers who gamble with vabal agreement and some of them even stake their houses or even cars along the line, between that also we can not consider such pattern of gambling as a way to gamble since it outcome can be severe sometimes.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

It is precisely because of the possibility of such situations that I never argue or bet with friends. This can put an end to even the strongest male friendship.

In my opinion, financial relationships (and especially bets on sports and other events) are poorly combined with friendly relationships. Even such trifles as refusing to fulfill the terms of the bet can lead to the emergence of negative thoughts at a subconscious level. And why is this necessary?

If I want to gamble, I can always use the services of an online casino (for example, the Razed online casino).
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Since it's not big deal, I don't take such situation as a real bet and I always let go and forget that such pair to pair bet even happened. So, I have not argued with any of my friend concerning a bet that they didn't honor and non of my friend have done that with me as well because we just take it as joke.

 If really we meant it, the bet price must be paid to the winner and to avoid issues, we normally bring in a third party to start as an escrow.
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A man need to prove his word, even it's just a small thing or a joke, agreement is still an agreement.

It's depend on you whether you want to take this as serious thing or not, if you really want the snack, you can ask for it, you're not wrong.

But, if I were you, I will let it go because if he can't be trusted with small amount, how I can trust him with big amount or working together? for me the "snack" is the price to know his character.

I think you are a bit harsh in judging your friend based on a simple incident that may have been spontaneous and not intentional. I emphasize that these bets between friends should remain friendly and within the scope of pure friendship, and therefore there is no point in betting on large sums of money or buying expensive things. Friendship will easily turn into an opportunity for one party to drain the other, which will take us out of the framework of friendship if the bet is unfair. The best option is for the loser to pay for food in a restaurant or the price of a beer on Saturday night.

I remember that I was once in a bet with a friend on the result of one of the local championship matches in my country, but the result ended in a tie. The bet was that the loser would go shopping and prepare dinner. Although one of us did not succeed in winning the bet, we enjoyed a very exciting match and were very satisfied with the result of the match.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

I once made a silly bet like that with my friend when I was in Junior High School, I won the bet that time and it ended up with him paying all our food and drink bills. From your case, it seems like your friend really just thinks of your agreement as a joke, just try betting with him with upfront money, it will definitely end better Grin. Besides, when it comes to money, I'm sure you won't hesitate to remind your friend of your agreement.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink
Yes I did something like that I support Argentina during the World Cup and I have a friend who is a Brazil supporter I bet with him on almost every match where Argentina or Brazil played.  Our agreement was that if Argentina won, he would give me a treat and if Brazil won, I would give him a treat.  But we both kept our word and gave both treats as per the agreement.  Such a bet is great fun, but if it is of a large amount, it can sometimes destroy a good relationship.  Money is very important thing and many times our relationship is ruined for money
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You were shy to remind a friend about something? That means you're either extremely awkward with people or that's not really your friend.
Friends are people you should be comfortable with. They're people who you share your secrets with. It should be completely normal to talk about lost bets.
I'd mention it casually like -hey, so who's buying the snacks now? and see how my friend reacts.

I've never argued about something like this nor would I. If this was a small bet I'd let it go, but I'd keep reminding him about it to see if he gets angry or openly says he won't pay for that or that there was no such bet. If he goes into denial, I'd be careful with him next time he needs money or wants to make a deal.
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I used to play cards with my cousins when I was younger during the holidays. We would stay up all night playing cards, the stakes were ridiculous. We didn’t bet money, the loser was made to drink two cups of water. It’s all fun and games until you are the one losing five times in a row and you can’t drink any more water. If you can’t drink anymore, your only saving grace is if someone volunteers to help you drink. It was a game amongst us but it was pretty serious as no one wanted to kill the fun of the game.

If I had a bet with a friend, I’d make sure to remind him to honor the bet we made no matter how small or big the stakes are.
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Often bet with friends on a sports match even bet on something that doesn't make sense. But my friend and I always keep our promises according to the previous agreement. So that when one day we want to bet again, both parties do not doubt each other.
But in the future, I currently avoid betting with friends and the reason is quite simple because I realize that money can ruin good relationships with our friends. It is better to bet on online sites than to bet with friends but end up being enemies.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

You said it was a friend, right? I don't see how you are not frank enough with your friends to be able to tell them you guys had a bet and that he should buy you snacks now. There is nothing wrong with that, the friend shouldn't mind and you shouldn't be hesitant to ask him about it because as you said, it's a small thing but even if it was done for fun, you could say it in a good way like having fun, laughing, and just casually reminding him about the bet he lost and that he owes you some snacks.

Growing up with my childhood friends, I have experienced such things on a lot of occasions, but as you suggested above, I was never hesitant to ask them to fulfill their part of the deal nor were they ever hesitant to ask me if I was on the losing side. Friendships shouldn't have problems because of such things. However, as you mentioned about large bets, I would never make large bets against a friend because I know money can make things go bad, so I wouldn't risk the friendship for it in the first place.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink
At first I won't blame your friend for not honoring your agreement but you could have reminded him at least to have it in mind that you guys bet on something and the fun should be completed instead of him not responding to you as your bet club won the match. You can also tell him that for the fun to complete he needs to stand to agreement, then let him say that he won't gonna pay or anything else then you would know a kind of person he is. Usually while going on live with such bet there should be a someone who will hold both funds from you guys to pay off immediately the game played against any of you then he will also refund to the winner instead to hold a long argument between both of you.
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Yess i have , at that time I entrusted a bet to my friend, I won but when I asked about my winnings he casually said he didn't place the bet, even though he clearly went to the betting place, a little disappointed because I didn't win, but he returned my bet money, so I didn't care and until now I am still good friends with him, but if he wants to bet I don't trust him again
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

This is a typical life situation that can happen even if neither you nor your friend gambles. In fact, for a lifetime of real friends can be found a few and all the rest of the human environment is just acquaintances who get some benefit from you. Someone spends time together because they live in a neighboring house or study together, someone because of common interests, which over the years will change and friendship will dissolve. By the way, true friends will stay with you even in the most difficult situation. But if I were you, I would not keep around people who do not fulfill their promises, because most likely in a critical situation, they will just turn away from you.
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It is good that some events should happen so you'll really know the type of temperament that your friends have. Having said that I think that it's important to honor agreements, if you make a promise to someone then you should honor it. If there's a reason why you can't honor the agreement then you're obligated to tell the person. It could be that your friend forgot about the bet when the match ended, if I were you I'd have casually reminded him of his promise to buy the snacks, then you'd have known his real intentions. Money shouldn't come between friends but if for any reason it does happen then the parties should honor agreements.
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If the table is turned, would your friend had forgotten or not raised up the conversation? However, you know him better than anyone else in the forum, but I don't think real friends would get separated for not reaching out to a bet bargain. The best part of it is keeping the bet on a low rate, so nobody feels it a heavy task to keep to their promise.
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I was so often betting on football matches with my friends this because we did that for fun and who will lost will pay for snacks and drinks and i think it was fun because the excitement will be very different if watching football matches and betting on those teams who playing but friendship is more important than money for me so that's why me and my friends make a commitment that we will never bets with huge amount of money because we have realized if we bets using huge money and if one of us can win the bets then it can be ruined our friendship because i am sure those who lost will be feel dissapoint so that's why we did that for fun only and not to earn money
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But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal.
I do not see any reason friends should be betting with huge amount of money. They can just use small amount of money, or lose should pay for food in an eatery or restaurant for the betting. They should bet for fun and not a way to make money from themselves. I see using huge amount to bet as stupidity. I can not bet like that.

Also if two people bet, the money should be with someone who is the third person. It will be their mediator.
If it is a big amount of money that they both can afford I don't think their is a problem with it for friend to bet with a reasonable amount, but if it is an amount that it will pain any one to loss, it will be better their should be someone who will be I'm charged of the money,  just in case anyone loss the winner will get the money without any disagreement. Using a reason to bet between two friends,  I don't think it should be done if it is not well planed, to involve other people for fairness.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink
I have never entered into such a betting deal with a friend or anyone else, but I have seen and heard stories of people who did, and 99 percent never ended well, some even lead to a serious fight that resulted in the loss of lives.

Like one that involved a popular musicians over here in my country, they both bet their car, and at the end of the game, the one who lost refused to submit his car key to his friend who won their bet on the excuse that he was only joking, the the friend who won won't have it and insisted on having the car key, the one who lost refused and it lead to serious arguments, and this was how both of them become enemies even till this day.

It's never a good idea to enter into any form of betting or gambling that involves money with a dear friend, except both of you trust each other so much that such bet won't lead to any issues or misunderstanding.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

I often do it with my hangout friends. The bet is cigarettes or some money. But there is never a problem that occurs when I or my friends lose. We realize that we are betting on something different. Of course there will be a chance of winning and losing. Or another possibility is that no one wins or loses. Moreover, no one will forget their bet because when we agree to the bet we put our cigarettes or money on the table. Whoever wins usually takes it and the loser still has to accept the final result.
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Your friends will crack a lot of jokes whenever you introduce it as important. The match may have been fun for him but the bettor could tell how important it was. You should have told him how serious you are about the bet and the outcome might have been different. If you lose the bet, the money will be out of your pocket, so you should make him aware of that. Moreover, you both have to deposit money in one place and can spend it when the topic of winning yakan comes. For me i don’t even care if it's a real deal unless there's a lot of money involved.
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This thing casual do happens in a normal conversation with our friend and now its up to you if you want him to know because in your part its a deal but in their part its just casual thing to make a bet without a proper deal at all just like joking around at all. For me I don't even care if its a real deal not unless there's a large amount money involve on it but if its just a snack I can pass it out at all. Then if you feel off better to not make a bet deal again to him.
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If it was the small things then yeah I guess. I wouldn't hold it to him if he ever reminded me of a bet though since, well, it IS a bet, no matter how small. I reckon he'd feel the same if I reminded him of something like that. If it was something big, then hell yea I'd do my best to make him fulfill it no matter what. Especially if it involves something monetary or something. It's not that you forget about it because you're friends, it's exactly because you're friends that you should remember stuff like this and properly pay back.

It's pretty similar to as how you'd treat a loan to others really.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink
it's something that's quite normal with a lot of folks and at doesn't always end well. If you're not ready to commit to what you've agreed, it's best you just enjoy the game together and don't try to bring money into the equation. A lot of friends have fought and injured themselves because something that started playfully ended up creating a serious misunderstanding.

Even the least borrowing of your friends money could bring an end to the friendship not to even talk about agreeing to give him an amount of a game goes in a certain direction and end up not giving him when it's time to do so. If you're dealing with a matured friend that isn't toxic, then you can afford to let such kind of bet play out but if it's those type that don't know how to create boundaries and don't know how to differentiate between a casual friendly bet and a serious one, it's best not to alloe such kind of thing to fly.
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It can happens. But as always you must just keep your words unless your words have no value.
For sure, real bets (made in a bookmaker) have 0 discussions. it means people that agree on that rarely have discussion.
other kinds of bet "social one", can have some dispute but as already said no one want trash his words... trust in real life is an important thing... you can't start from scratch in most of the cases and for sure you haven't alt accounts!
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When was this bet made? Is it before a few hours of the match starting?
I'm sure your friend is pretending like nothing happened because he's upset that Real Madrid lost.

Yeah you might feel bad because it's trivial, when you ask about this bet you might be afraid of a bad friendship, but it's better to ask than to leave it at that, a snack that you should have received as a result of winning this bet. Cheesy

Once I bet directly with a friend, but whatever the result I will win or I lose I will give what was agreed in the bet.
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This wasn't properly arranged by both of you, although people can be very corny sometimes but I'm not sure both of you took the gamble seriously. The only way to make sure it was going to be inescapable was if both you put your money on the table and make your bets, that's the old fashioned gambling that we know, what you guys did wasn't a bet it was like a promise and there's a hundred percent chance that he didn't forget, he might just be pretending that he didn't remember. Next time you want to make a bet with someone make sure you guys put your stakes on the table.
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If you remember and you guys have already left the place to me, I could have suggested you remind him of it and pay for the next snacks in case next time you both will also enter another betting where the price will be higher and he wins against you, the one that you consider small and did not honour will be an excuse for him not to honour the agreement.
I don't know how people would define friends with each other but a snack or more, even if that bet we won, we don't need to force someone to fulfill the previous bet promise, it's self-awareness. If our friend is not self-aware or really forgetful, that is also normal, there is no need to calculate small things because once we put too much emphasis on these issues, relationship problems will appear many cracks, that is why I think people should limit intervention and bring money into the relationship, it is easy to increase conflict.
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There's no need to be upset
not really because most of my friends don't bet neither like betting
though I can see this happening
must be really frustrating when a bet is not honored, a situation full of anger.

how often do you think it happens?
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Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink
I don't know for others but I'll speak about myself and my experience as well. Just like you, I also had a friend that whenever the football club o support is playing against his favorite club or maybe a supposed strong club, we'll always bet against each as he'll pick the history club or my club's opposing team and we also do the reverse when his favorite club is playing. Now, because we don't want our betting against each other to affect our friendship or ruin our relationship, we do stake with affordable amount of money that'll not be too big for us lose to each other. We do banter after these games like friends but every banter that comes with the results of the games ends with the games as we still maintain our bond as friends. So my advise is if you have a friend who's not mentally and emotionally matured enough not to allow betting against each other to cause any kind of conflict between the both of you, you should desist from betting against each other so you can still maintain friendship with him
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I will ask my money, even it's as small as $1, if they didn't want to give it, I will choose to cut off my relationship with them since they didn't respect me. Why should someone make a bet if they don't want to lose? it's really like a joke. This kind of friends is only want to advantage over other people, I will avoid this kind people because they're toxic. I don't have time to argue or convince them to pay my winnings, but they will not be my friends anymore.
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No need to be ashamed, this is just a snack bet you won't spend much money, maybe your friend hates Real Madrid so he chooses Lille as his bet even though this is just a bet for fun with friends.

If your situation is that you bet a large amount and your friend forgets, maybe you won't talk about it until he realizes, but what is held is a promise before the deal starts, then what is more worrying is that you don't pay because of the large amount.
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Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink
I've never bet like that with a friend, and in my opinion this is just a trivial thing, you just need to remind your friend and if he refuses it could be because your friend doesn't think it's serious, and friendships shouldn't be damaged because of things like this, gambling with friends should be just for fun.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

Well, yes, but way back when I was young and with similar things. Like one gamble that you invited to a dinner for all your friends if x team won, the team won, and then play dumb. It was a time when none of us had a lot of money, still living with our parents, so these things are a bit within the normality, someone in a moment of exhilaration will go out of his mouth but when he sees that he would have to pay he sees that he can't or it would be very difficult for him.

Nowadays if I bet it will be seriously and only with someone I know will pay me or in casinos.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink


Just remind him that he lose on your discussed bet then see his response. If you see him didn't pay attention on your claims towards your bet made then this a red flag for that person also this mean that you cannot trust him with certain amount of money since it change his attitude.

There's really such person don't have plans to honor those things they say and they just like everything will be in favor with them. So If your so called friend will not honor your bet made and say that he was just joking then you will get an idea that next time you should not deal with this person. Also provably avoid any future financial deals with these person since there's huge risk that he will do unimaginable things that can possibly disappoint you.
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There's nothing wrong with reminding him, but do it in a nice way. Maybe your friend doesn't have enough money to pay for the snacks, or maybe he did not take the offer seriously, If you are really friends with each other, you will not mind telling him, and your friend will not be offended.
Friends should not argue on this matter; it looked like a friendly bet, so remind him in a way that he will not be offended, It never happened before, but if ever this happens, this will be my approach, So far, all my friends honor their bets to other people and their friends and relatives.

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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

To bad you already see his true color for small amount of money and that indicate that you cannot trust him. Much better to avoid any future deal with that guy since you know what will happen especially with more bigger amount.

But just give a benefit of the doubt first and make him remember on your past deal. If he will not honor it then that means that person is not trusted and will avoid them. What he did is already a disrespectful act towards you since if he really aim to have good relationship with you then he would never do those things and honor everything you deal with.

Also for what I see their he's not really your friend. He just know you and for sure that he will take advantage your kindness when there's opportunity to attack.
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If I bet with my friends and I win the match but she forgets to buy food, I consider that will be okay because I don't force her to buy me something. We don't have to thinks serious with that because they are our friends. We do that for fun so we should accepts whatever they do and we don't have to feels sad if they don't buy something to the winner.

That is a small matter that we should not take too serious. I never bet with big amount of money or big prizes because I know my friends. They will not take it serious as before and that will be a joke only.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

You should have reminded him because a friend, if he is really a friend to you, will honor his word, and by ignoring and forgetting your agreement; it just shows he has no respect for your friendship, It happened to me before, but my friend is the kind of guy who easily forgets everything, but when I remind him about my winning, he easily obliges to treat me as what was agreed upon. He even thanked me for reminding him because he will be worried if I think that he disrespected me for not honoring our agreement.

Friends should honor their agreement because its a sign of respect for your friendship and a way to prove that you are an honorable man, If you cannot keep your words to your friend, what more to strangers.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink

Well keeping to the agreement would have been better, situations like this needs a third party that would seal the agreement deal which enables each of you to put your own part of the deal so when the winner turns up, the deal for the bet is giving to the person that won that ways it's fun but I think you felt pity for him to even bring up the issues to him after the game was over and that shows a sign of true friendship but if in turn you were in such position to have lost to him would he have done the same and let you walk freely. So it's a normal Case to have such quarells with a friend but the understanding matters,tho I walk away from having to do with anything arguments.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink


That was funny, though. I really understand. Sometimes, if it's even something small like a snack, you feel embarrassed bringing them. Even if part of the deal. I had moments like that with friends. We would place little bets on small things and, whenever they forgot, I just simply ignored it, but you're right because when the money is big, like real money, it can really complicate friendships. If someone is impatient with negotiations.

Luckily, I didn't make any special bets. And it creates problems for my friends, but I can see how it can be tricky if there's a lot of money involved. It is always a good idea to keep it simple and fun when betting with friends to avoid any problems or problems that may arise down the road. Have you thought about sending it randomly next time? Is it to be a joke or something?

In those cases, you will need to use the rule "money down". Then, someone trusted will handle the money until the match is over. That's what we do.
Sometimes the problem is how serious the bet will be. Friends could sometimes just joke around while the other takes it seriously.
What you did is an example of it. For him, it could be a "just for fun" thing but for you, it was a serious bet. You should've told him how serious you are about the bet and maybe the result will be different. Try asking him politely about your bet and maybe he will pay up.

Now when money is involved it should be a different case. You will both need to put the money in a pot so that you can also be sure that you will reap the rewards when you win because the money is already there.

Having someone confident in taking money from the worst bets can really prevent misunderstandings and make sure everyone takes their bets more seriously. I like the idea of ​​a "down payment" rule that increases the level of effort. Especially when money is involved. In order not to create a mess later.

You're right that sometimes the difference between a free bet and a bad bet can be blurred. Especially between friends, in my case it was just for fun. And I'm not too worried about it. But if I do more myself Maybe it would help to make sure we were both on the same page from the start.

However, when it comes to money I agree that placing the pot upfront is the best way to keep things fair and no one feels cheated. He avoided embarrassment later. And both sides knew what was going to happen. I will definitely keep this in mind for future pairings!


This is certainly not a serious bet, had it been it was serious, little or big, it has to be honoured. Even the unserious settings have class, there are some that the other party will make sure it is honoured, that's the beauty of betting, it is either you have the nerves for it or you don't dare it. I've won enough betting with friends and family that they didn't honour and I didn't bother, and the same with me too, some people I'd won me that we just let it go. But if it is serious, the parties involved must find a way to make the loser accountable, this is why the escrow is good or you give the winning to another person the two of you can trust. By this, no one can take the bet lightly anymore.

I completely agree with you. Whether it's a bad bet or just luck. There is still some respect. Even though the numbers are small But there is an unspoken code that makes betting fun. And part of that is tracking. Especially when everyone is on the same page. as you said If you're not serious Sometimes it's a good idea to let it go. But only when it comes to high quality or everyone putting in a lot of effort. It's important to make sure everyone endures their end.

Sure, the best hope for the worst bets is escrow or a trusted third party, since it upholds accountability and guarantees better results. It prevents much of the misunderstanding or embarrassment later on. I think it's worth it. Small, big bets; it's all about everyone up front knowing how awful it is. And since that's obvious The size of the bet is terribly obvious.
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If he agreed to the bet between you too then your friend has no honor, I could be wrong as some friends pretend as if they can afford something but they really can't, next time you need a third person, when you bring up the bet discussion make sure you both drop the money for Snacks after the game ends to the third person, so that similar situation won't happen again.

We are all human, some people just don't know how to keep their promises, you bring it up it turned into something else, I like that you decide not to say anything, atleast you know who your friend is on this part, you can be able to predict him next time.

I don't and won't do such deal with friends, unless I am sure that he or she is someone who takes honor very seriously, like I've said before, always carry someone else along, to be the escrow between you two.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink
This is certainly not a serious bet, had it been it was serious, little or big, it has to be honoured. Even the unserious settings have class, there are some that the other party will make sure it is honoured, that's the beauty of betting, it is either you have the nerves for it or you don't dare it. I've won enough betting with friends and family that they didn't honour and I didn't bother, and the same with me too, some people I'd won me that we just let it go. But if it is serious, the parties involved must find a way to make the loser accountable, this is why the escrow is good or you give the winning to another person the two of you can trust. By this, no one can take the bet lightly anymore.
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In those cases, you will need to use the rule "money down". Then, someone trusted will handle the money until the match is over. That's what we do.
Sometimes the problem is how serious the bet will be. Friends could sometimes just joke around while the other takes it seriously.
What you did is an example of it. For him, it could be a "just for fun" thing but for you, it was a serious bet. You should've told him how serious you are about the bet and maybe the result will be different. Try asking him politely about your bet and maybe he will pay up.

Now when money is involved it should be a different case. You will both need to put the money in a pot so that you can also be sure that you will reap the rewards when you win because the money is already there.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink


I do such kind of bets with my buddies more than often but our arrangements are opposite to yours - those who win will pay drinks snacks and so on to celebrate their win, Seems strange arrangements at first  , however my  winning friends were always comfortable   with them and never refused to pay for me and others who lost the bet because they value the spirit of comradeship between us.  
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A man need to prove his word, even it's just a small thing or a joke, agreement is still an agreement.

It's depend on you whether you want to take this as serious thing or not, if you really want the snack, you can ask for it, you're not wrong.

But, if I were you, I will let it go because if he can't be trusted with small amount, how I can trust him with big amount or working together? for me the "snack" is the price to know his character.
It is just a snark. But the friend can ask him but he should not be serious about it. It is nothing. That also does not mean his friend can not be trusted. He may just not think his friend can think up to that extent because he may not even see it as a bet. Just like I have said before, if you bet with someone and there is no mediator and both of you does not give the mediator money to bet, that is not a bet.
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You would be surprised how little things will cause argument between two close friends when it has to do with betting, there are so many cases of people getting into arguments and then even escalating more and some of them are exact same little cases like you said it is. For me what you would have done is to actually honor the deal so that there won't be chances of any excuse when next you gamble cause this is same as gambling.
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A man need to prove his word, even it's just a small thing or a joke, agreement is still an agreement.

It's depend on you whether you want to take this as serious thing or not, if you really want the snack, you can ask for it, you're not wrong.

But, if I were you, I will let it go because if he can't be trusted with small amount, how I can trust him with big amount or working together? for me the "snack" is the price to know his character.
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But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal.
I do not see any reason friends should be betting with huge amount of money. They can just use small amount of money, or lose should pay for food in an eatery or restaurant for the betting. They should bet for fun and not a way to make money from themselves. I see using huge amount to bet as stupidity. I can not bet like that.

Also if two people bet, the money should be with someone who is the third person. It will be their mediator.
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I have never made such a deal with a friend or anyone, but one thing I want to ask you is whether at the beginning of the deal you reassured him whether he would keep the promise he had said or not? But even if you don't ask about it, I think it should be his obligation to keep the promise when the team he chose loses.

Besides, on the other hand, I think there is nothing wrong if you remind him of the promise when he loses at the end of the game, because anyway there would be no reason for him to avoid it when you both have made a previous agreement, but if the amount of money at stake is quite large then I think avoiding the promise of the agreement should not happen.
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If you remember and you guys have already left the place to me, I could have suggested you remind him of it and pay for the next snacks in case next time you both will also enter another betting where the price will be higher and he wins against you, the one that you consider small and did not honour will be an excuse for him not to honour the agreement.
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During the last Real Madrid game, I bet my friend that if Real Madrid lost, he would pay for the snacks, and if Lille won, I would do the same. As you know, Real Madrid lost, but when the game ended, I was too shy to remind him to honor the agreement. He forgot about the bet and talked to me like nothing had happened. I didn’t bring it up since it was just a small thing Grin. But it made me wonder— Imagine if friends bet with large amounts of money, it could really ruin their friendship if one of them doesn’t fulfill the deal. Have you ever experienced a similar situation with someone you know? How did it end? Wink
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