Have you ever checked posting date? (Newbie question)

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Quote from: gentlemand on April 18, 2019, 08:31:41 AM

There are certain threads that are best continued rather than a new thread being started.

Usually it's posts in boards like Technical Discussion or Technical Support, because these boards are relatively spam-free. If someone has had a similar problem or issue to you in the past, for example, it's often better to post in that already existing thread, because it saves people having to repeat all the same information again and you can instead build upon what is already there. These kind of bumps are totally fine; it's the useless necrobumps in boards like Bitcoin Discussion that need dealt with.

Quote from: gentlemand on April 18, 2019, 08:31:41 AM

I'd love to know what factors are going on in their little minds when they bump something from 2011 on a subject that's 100% dead.

"I need to make 10 posts today to hit my bounty quota".

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I've always found the taboo about bumping an old thread a little bit strange. There are certain threads that are best continued rather than a new thread being started.

At the same time I'm amazed what the zombies choose to revive. I'd love to know what factors are going on in their little minds when they bump something from 2011 on a subject that's 100% dead.

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Quote from: Velkro on April 08, 2019, 03:10:13 PM

So in theory i will never do that mistake, but if someone before me will do it, i could fall into a trap Tongue

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You can fall in trap if you never check date of main post. Yes, warning will not show to you but date will indicate you how log before main thread posted. Although sometimes I forgot to check, but always try it. If you found like this then report to moderators. Then they will handle it since on of moderators already mentioned on first reply.

However, most of newbies are making this mistake. I think they don't know that they should avoid it but red warning should follow by them.

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Quote from: Retina on April 09, 2019, 02:09:06 AM

I think it is one of the major problem becauses maximum are not following the Forum Rule, newbie trying to that how increasing post number not qualit, maximum time not read old post time and date. I think maximum Newbie try first read carefully than start post this topic so it is solved many time.

Well, we all understand that if you're a newbie you will be asking questions regarding about the forum not only the rules but also on how to earn, but most of the newbies here are only after on earning the merits and keep on making irrelevant topics.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on April 08, 2019, 09:57:26 AM

The message will pop up immediately when posters click on Post button, so if they try clicking on Post button the second time to publish their posts, it means they don't care about the topic, instead what they care about are their postcount, post quota.
In addition, as you said, it is definitely the common behaviour of account farmers. They usually don't care about topic's contents, flow of ideas and discussions. They tend to jump directly to the last post, and reply to only the last post.
Real users will behave very different:
- They read at least the OP, and the last posts (not the last).
- They have to scan pages (if new topic, scan all pages; if old topics, scan a few last pages)
- Then, they organize what have been solved, what have not been solved before composing their own posts to discuss.
- Sometimes, they edit their posts to improve their contributions and better express or clarify their ideas.

It means real users spend long period of time to read, before they start composing their posts, and they might give up their posts if eventually they feel like their posts are un-constructive, off-topics, or questions already answered with previous replies.

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I think it is one of the major problem becauses maximum are not following the Forum Rule, newbie trying to that how increasing post number not qualit, maximum time not read old post time and date. I think maximum Newbie try first read carefully than start post this topic so it is solved many time.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on April 08, 2019, 09:14:22 AM

For me even I think before make any reply if main post made before three months. There is lots of new discussion and we can easily participate there. So why we need bump very old thread. This is really spam for me.

This is interesting, i mean, i never check topic date because i only answer in new topics. Only problem is when someone ELSE digs out topic and i see it then on top of page so its new but in reality its not. Posts from 2011 for example and last post from today because someone else didnt look before post.
So in theory i will never do that mistake, but if someone before me will do it, i could fall into a trap Tongue

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I believed the bump was intentional at some of the cases. They are aware of old threads but still write a reply to increase post counts.

What concern me most are the next replies after the bump post especially even those high ranks.

Their reason? They just respond to the last response lol.

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It's very annoying thing. Old threads usually are bumped new members. And what happens next? Then usually high ranked members usually also start posting in that thread. They don't look at date, they just read original post or last post in that thread before replying. So, it's adviced to lock your own topics after some time passed or if thread got enough replies to avoid unnecessary.
Once I also did same mistake. I looked at OP, saw that thread was created few days ago. I created post, clicked "Preview" button and only then I realised thst this thread was created more than a year ago. I don't remember exact date, let's say that thread was made on April 8th 2017 and I wanted to post on April 10th 2018 Cheesy

. So, I wasted some my time while writing and I didn't even published my post.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on April 08, 2019, 09:57:26 AM

It is spam (usually account farmers). If they miss the posting date, they shouldn't miss the red warning while trying to post:

The problem is that this warning is only shown to the first post in a dead thread. Once a dead thread has been necrobumped and is back on the front page, it fills up rapidly with both spammers and some genuine users who don't realize it has been necrobumped - all these posters coming in after the initial necrobump do not get shown the same warning.

Ideally we need dedicated sub-board mods who would spot this kind of behavior and rapidly lock the threads in question before they become spamfests again.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on April 08, 2019, 09:14:22 AM

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This is a very big problem. i have some scenario where a newbie just bumps a given post just to advertise some product or service or post a link to some website

Quote from: vv181 on April 08, 2019, 01:54:08 PM

I can't think of how they all could dig deep to the post page pagination and posting nonsense.

I think some of them get such posts from google search. And then they create an account and rush in to reply without knowing the rules of the forum.

Quote from: vv181 on April 08, 2019, 01:54:08 PM

On other hands, there are some old thread is active again because some users are bumping it, then as expected the thread is filled with a new post even from some high-ranked member that posting nonsense.
I'd usually see that the OP thread was a couples month or years old, but the discussion/thread is filled with generic post activity.

Some old users are just kind of clueless in the forum. They don't even read the OP, all they do is make a reply on the thread so that their post count increases.

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I can't think of how they all could dig deep to the post page pagination and posting nonsense. On other hands, there are some old thread is active again because some users are bumping it, then as expected the thread is filled with a new post even from some high-ranked member that posting nonsense.
I'd usually see that the OP thread was a couples month or years old, but the discussion/thread is filled with generic post activity.

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Thanks @Coolcryptovator for the insight. You have be my inspiration on the forum and will continue to learn from your steps.

This has be mistakes made by many lower ranked members and even some high ranked members, most atime they awake the old thread just to make their post count undermining the disadvantage. This post came to me at the right time and must say, Kudos sir/ma'am.

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Well, that scenario seems normal in SMT sections. No way that newbies or lower ranks will going to read the content and replies of other users before posting out the reply. This is why most of the reply of you will read will be boring for it was redundant. But what else can we do?

i think there 3 out of 10 replies consider good and that can get some lessons. Good replies could get a good discussions too.

However, I know OP you are used to it already because if not then that is your problem.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on April 08, 2019, 09:57:26 AM

If you see such behavior, just report the post and it will get deleted.

Thanks for point it and remind me. I just forgot to add this point since I have less experience for this kind of reply. I have noticed a user from this post (reported by the way), that's why I have made this post for newbies.

However hope they will aware why shouldn't post on very old thread and they should report this kind of post.

Edit: Reported reply has been deleted.

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It is spam (usually account farmers). If they miss the posting date, they shouldn't miss the red warning while trying to post:

If you see such behavior, just report the post and it will get deleted.

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Do you noticed that there is posting date & time below topic title? If not then you can see on this post. There is reason why am I asking this question.

I know that problem has been discussed multiple time on this forum including meta. But unfortunately most of newbies are not visiting there. However perhaps more post available on this board also about this subject but I would like to write myself.

I have noticed that most of newbie just make post without check the date of original post. Few post posted even Three years ago but newbies are bumping that thread for increase post count. Is it not spam? Replies are just generic and worthless.

You might reply if there is any useful topic or you have any updates about topic. Otherwise I don't see any point to reply on very old thread.

For me even I think before make any reply if main post made before three months. There is lots of new discussion and we can easily participate there. So why we need bump very old thread. This is really spam for me.

Hope newbies will care about it, because lot of claims about merit why newbies not getting it. So I would like to say, please read posting date before you reply on any thread.

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