Author

Topic: Havelockinvestments.com: Who are they and why would anyone trust them? (Read 8755 times)

legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1090
Learning the troll avoidance button :)
i never got any email about this. all i can say is, my shares better be safe.

Well going by havelock schedule we will know by March 3 (Not 2) +1 day for certainty

During the past week we have been doing our best to bring the site back up to normal operations.

We believe that we have made great progress.  As we are responsible for the funds of many of our users we take this responsibility very seriously.

Until we are certain that we can once again provide our users with a secure access to their account we will not bring the site back up.

The current schedule for the site to be back on line is for Monday March 2nd, 2015.


We also would like to take this opportunity and remind many of our users that there are many "Google Adwords" ads promoting Phishing sites that imitate our site.
Please be careful and make sure you are on our site prior to entering your credentials.

Thank you for your patience and understanding,

Havelock Investments
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1010
Ad maiora!
i never got any email about this. all i can say is, my shares better be safe.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1090
Learning the troll avoidance button :)
Same question. WTF.

Site is down for maintenance
It has it's own dedicated thread

The site should be back up today - Monday!

deposits are fine, wallet is fine, database is fine.  We are still running some tests to make sure the front end and back end are not causing any glitches.

Better be safe than sorry. 
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1033
Same question. WTF.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Dear all,

I believe that Havelock Investments there's no more. Am i right ?

The site is down for at least two days, and neither it nor @havelock_inv on Twitter showed any activity since a long time ago.

All the best
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1090
Learning the troll avoidance button :)
Necroed an oldie but since a lot of time has passed since this topic was open and they are still functioning
I will say its worked ok so far
Regarding neobee they should be sent a shareholder list associated with accounts every 12 hours
newbie
Activity: 55
Merit: 0
I would be very happy if there would exist any kind of contract between my investment into e.g. neobee bank and me. In case that Havelock will be off one day I would like to have some kind of entitlement for my bought shares. This is how its done at crowdinvestings websites nowadays. I am also quite sure that you will gain many user by implementing such an official security feature for investments.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1090
Learning the troll avoidance button :)
communication is bad at  Havelock Investments...need big improvement

I could come on here and post every 10 minutes that im "working on it"  -- or i could just work on it.... and have it take 1/2 the time to fix... up to you.

sorry if that sounds snotty, its 2AM and i've been at it since 11AM, time for sleep.



That and a Canada Day Hangover in Ottawa Smiley
Thanks for all the hard work LB

Ah shoot posted that too soon


Database seems down. Sorry about that. We've been notified about the problem. Please try again later.

Maybe it is the API bots lol



Lingering websocket stuff maybe.. seems fine now.



I edited that pretty quickly and people say that's not fast
Thanks again now take a nap haha Smiley
full member
Activity: 212
Merit: 100
communication is bad at  Havelock Investments...need big improvement

I could come on here and post every 10 minutes that im "working on it"  -- or i could just work on it.... and have it take 1/2 the time to fix... up to you.

sorry if that sounds snotty, its 2AM and i've been at it since 11AM, time for sleep.



That and a Canada Day Hangover in Ottawa Smiley
Thanks for all the hard work LB

Ah shoot posted that too soon


Database seems down. Sorry about that. We've been notified about the problem. Please try again later.

Maybe it is the API bots lol



Lingering websocket stuff maybe.. seems fine now.

legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1090
Learning the troll avoidance button :)
communication is bad at  Havelock Investments...need big improvement

I could come on here and post every 10 minutes that im "working on it"  -- or i could just work on it.... and have it take 1/2 the time to fix... up to you.

sorry if that sounds snotty, its 2AM and i've been at it since 11AM, time for sleep.



That and a Canada Day Hangover in Ottawa Smiley
Thanks for all the hard work LB

Had this for a second but looks like its back

Database seems down. Sorry about that. We've been notified about the problem. Please try again later.

Maybe it is the API bots

Anyways just a light scare good night

full member
Activity: 212
Merit: 100
communication is bad at  Havelock Investments...need big improvement

I could come on here and post every 10 minutes that im "working on it"  -- or i could just work on it.... and have it take 1/2 the time to fix... up to you.

sorry if that sounds snotty, its 2AM and i've been at it since 11AM, time for sleep.

legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1090
Learning the troll avoidance button :)
communication is bad at  Havelock Investments...need big improvement

Something tells me you've never invested with Havelock...communication and service has never been a problem.

That and this thread has never been the official one Smiley
Just one of the three technical rotating ones people like to post on
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1001
communication is bad at  Havelock Investments...need big improvement

Something tells me you've never invested with Havelock...communication and service has never been a problem.
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
communication is bad at  Havelock Investments...need big improvement
hero member
Activity: 606
Merit: 500
The havelockinvestments.com site is down.  Two days after I put some bitcoins there...

I hate this game.  Angry

Sorry to scare you with the few hours of downtime!



again.... please reply here on what's happening...
hero member
Activity: 606
Merit: 500
A friend of mine has invested in Havelocks ASIC-Miner Fund. Hes getting dividends and the fund is rising in worth. Today I also hopped in with a little amount. They claim an annual yield at 63.79%. Sounds good. Smiley

yes this because is based on asic infrastructure that is growing fast in these days and is actually the only structure able to mine bitcoins with a profit.
good work havelock!
member
Activity: 65
Merit: 11
A friend of mine has invested in Havelocks ASIC-Miner Fund. Hes getting dividends and the fund is rising in worth. Today I also hopped in with a little amount. They claim an annual yield at 63.79%. Sounds good. Smiley
full member
Activity: 212
Merit: 100
4.  The ability to turn Havelock shares into MPEX shares at any time.
Did you actually ask them about fee to transfer shares in this direction? I did and it was 10 BTC , recently lowered to 1 BTC.

Pushing IN from MPEX is free (click "MPEX Transfer" and paste your push receipt - its semi-automated)

Pushing OUT to MPEX is 1 BTC fee (email requests to [email protected] - done manually)

Cheers,
 James
sr. member
Activity: 340
Merit: 250
GO http://bitcointa.lk !!! My new nick: jurov
4.  The ability to turn Havelock shares into MPEX shares at any time.
Did you actually ask them about fee to transfer shares in this direction? I did and it was 10 BTC , recently lowered to 1 BTC.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1002
Our FULL API is now available for use!  Let the bot trading begin!  If you have an questions/suggestions please let us know!

Details, documentation and code samples can be found on the "API Setup" tab

Great news. will inform my traders.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1090
Learning the troll avoidance button :)
Who do I give a rating to on this forum to show my trust in cavirtex.com and/or havelock investments?

I have done around a quarter million dollars business with cavirtex... they are the best exchange in Bitcoin for whatever my opinion is worth.

They both have accounts
Lightbox for Havelock second on Cavirtex (Is same username will pass links Smiley )
Edited in Smiley
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/official-cavirtexcom-thread-218435
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/havelock-investments-exchange-feedbackcomments-135035

donator
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
Who do I give a rating to on this forum to show my trust in cavirtex.com and/or havelock investments?

I have done around a quarter million dollars business with cavirtex... they are the best exchange in Bitcoin for whatever my opinion is worth.
full member
Activity: 212
Merit: 100
Our FULL API is now available for use!  Let the bot trading begin!  If you have an questions/suggestions please let us know!

Details, documentation and code samples can be found on the "API Setup" tab
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1090
Learning the troll avoidance button :)
Been trading with them a while now no problems
Easy to use interface and slowly acquiring more funds Smiley
full member
Activity: 212
Merit: 100
Poor ROI on HIM right now...

Not sure if 30GH/s is going to make this investment worthwhile... 0.0075 div this month.  At approx 1.9 BTC per share...
Hopefully we see some improvement here.

Any way; Havelock Investments is a fantastic site in and of itself.  The share I'm not so certain on, but as far as a trading interface goes, it's certainly up there.  The simplicity is fantastic for newcomers to Bitcoin investments.  Smiley

Remember we also have over 1.6TH on pre-order with BFL.. some of which (4-6 singles if i remember correctly) are already paid for by HIM, and the rest have been pre-ordered with outside investor money and the fund will buy them from the pre-order investors with the reserve that we've built up once they are delivered. Our earliest pre-orders date back to June.

Cheers,
 James
ar9
sr. member
Activity: 352
Merit: 250
Poor ROI on HIM right now...

Not sure if 30GH/s is going to make this investment worthwhile... 0.0075 div this month.  At approx 1.9 BTC per share...
Hopefully we see some improvement here.

Any way; Havelock Investments is a fantastic site in and of itself.  The share I'm not so certain on, but as far as a trading interface goes, it's certainly up there.  The simplicity is fantastic for newcomers to Bitcoin investments.  Smiley
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
I have been using them for about 3 weeks and already saw a dividend.
It wasn't much but still, very nice to see a ROI. Sure as hell better than
waiting for your central bank to issue you interest.

Besides, i only risked like 2 BTC into my HL wallet and that was when they were trading
at like 50 ea.

hero member
Activity: 899
Merit: 1002
Havelock = same people who run Canadianbitcoins.com and I've never had a problem with them cashing for 2yrs now. No idea if this is legal in Canada, or how many of the investments are ponzis. I assume they do due dilligence
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1002
I have a small account with Havelockinvesting.  I recently had trouble logging in(turns out it was my fault).  Anyway I called the phone number and a representative helped me resolve my issue.  Thank you for the top quality customer service Havelock!

Quality customer service is an important thing to consider this days. Way to go... I've got a few BTC in Havelockinvesting too. So far, no issues.
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
I have a small account with Havelockinvesting.  I recently had trouble logging in(turns out it was my fault).  Anyway I called the phone number and a representative helped me resolve my issue.  Thank you for the top quality customer service Havelock!
full member
Activity: 212
Merit: 100

Thank you lightbox for your responsiveness. 


No problem!
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
And I'm here too, so ask me anything, send me an email, give me a call, or stop by the office sometime Smiley


Well folks, here is the operator.  He also responded to my query on reddit.  I would call that serious communication and customer service (although I'm not a customer yet). 

I appreciate everyone's responses and opinions.  I'm still on the fence, but when I decide to move, I'll be happy to know there is:

1.  Someone I can talk to there
2.  A Bricks and mortar business behind it
3.  Secure servers handling the transactions
4.  The ability to turn Havelock shares into MPEX shares at any time.

Thank you lightbox for your responsiveness. 
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 522
But what I do think is inevitable, if Bitcoin is successful, is that people will demand zero-trust, blockchain-style, incorruptible pseudonymous ledgers as the lowest stratum for ownership of all their financial assets, not just BTC.

No, I understand you think this, and you're certainly not alone. What I don't understand is why you think this.

You may say that you hope this, to wit, that "everything" turns into a sort of open-source thingee. This is fine, and that I can understand. But practically, people do not in fact want or desire, let alone demand, to tinker with things that require specialist knowledge and experience.

Most of Europe is heated on gas boilers. People aren't currently demanding that they service these themselves. On the contrary, people are mostly demanding that nobody is allowed to service the things themselves, and use certified specialists instead. This because the risk of explosion from incompetent maintenance is perceived as higher than the benefits (many and numerous as they may be) of tinkering with the thing. What can you do in the end, make it "more efficient"? You can't make it more efficient by hand, it's an industrial product.

People aren't demanding equipment to do their own dental work. It's not that some clever chap couldn't arrange a bunch of mirrors so you could drill your own teeth. It's just that people do not wish to do this. People used to fix their own cars, as recently as twenty years ago, back when it was still useful and needed. Practically nobody fixes his own car now. People used to cook their own meals. They don't anymore. People used to elect their own representatives. They mostly don't anymore. Heck, for that matter people used to invest their own money.

People, in general, will demand that they be left alone. Yes, they want a point of control, and Bitcoin provides that superbly. But once they've got that point of control they are no longer interested in pushing control further down the chain. Investment is fiduciary by its very nature, expecting people to trust the investee but expecting them to not trust at all any intermediary is an exercise in mental divergence. Before people will demand zero-trust ledgers people will stop investing at all, for lack of trust.

That said, certainly zero-trust ledgers make excellent sense. But NOT for people. They make excellent sense for the very specialists, those people trusted by others to handle their asset holdings. Consequently, such an implementation is not useful done haphazardly, by a bunch of mostly stupid, mostly irresponsible, mostly clueless self-appointed devs. And when I say mostly stupid, mostly irresponsible, mostly clueless self-appointed devs, my mental blueprint is the people currently maintaining bitcoin-qt and the rest of the "core infrastructure". People like Taaki, Maxwell, the whole gang that actually shipped bitcoin with unencrypted wallets, people who actually put "address signatures" in but the output looks like something a goose shat and so on.

Currently the demand for something like that is practically zero, for very good market reasons (which mostly boil down to, for MPEx itself, MPEx is zero-trust already). When that demand increases to the point where further implementation makes sense, it will be developed by those people involved, for their use. To best grok this, think of that Seinfeld episode when Kramer finds "better paths" for the fire department to take and the fire department is duly unimpressed.

Then on top of that, you might get different kinds of providers catering to different scenarios: IPO handlers, fullservice brokers, discount brokers, trusts, etc., all coexisting on top of the same asset-tracking blockchain.

You don't get to be the authority in a market just because you think of the market mentally in your head. You don't get to be the one who decides what gets built where just because you flew over the land and saw everything tiny down there. Most markets worth the mention have intrinsic authority, and you will be employed to work in furthering their goals rather than walk in there with all the brashness of youth and start telling them what's what. There's no IT CEO in all of the banking industry, and I will be muchly surprised that there ever will be an IT CEO in Bitcoin finance. The role of the developer in this field is subservient, no matter how grandiose he may feel himself in his inner core. (And for that matter, the notion that there should be IT CEOs in IT is still hotly debated - but mostly the consensus is "no").

Within the various service types, undoubtedly we will see the network effects and survival of the fittest that you describe in your other post, and your company might become the premier entity in any of those segments.

You seem to be discussing the recent past as if it were some sort of distant future. This boggles, are we speaking of the Revolution here or something?

But for risk mitigation purposes and for those who enjoy getting their hands dirty, the option would (should!) always exist to verify & transfer ownership of assets at a blockchain level, without intermediaries.

You do verify such, that's why you get the signed receipts as it is. A blockchain on top of this would actually add delays and costs which aren't in fact necessary: you already have exactly the same thing, a cryptographically signed receipt. There's no practical difference between the stuff in the blockchain saying you own some bitcoins and your saved receipts saying you own some S.MPOE.

MPEx has the advantage of not making you wait ten minutes to an hour for it, because it's passing down to you the advantage it enjoys of not having to contend with unknown and potentially unsafe peers. These are advantages you will be fighting to conserve, even if the programmer in you would love nothing more than to resolve problems that are sexy, for fame and glory. Fact is, not all sexy unknowns wish to vigorously copulate with programmers.

In fact, if experience is any guide, most don't.
hero member
Activity: 522
Merit: 500
Hasta la Bitcoin siempre!
Sorry for spreading panic. But since mybitcoinwallet and bitcoinica I tend to get nervous faster.

Thank you for the site and service and keep up the good work!
full member
Activity: 212
Merit: 100
The havelockinvestments.com site is down.  Two days after I put some bitcoins there...

I hate this game.  Angry

Sorry to scare you with the few hours of downtime!

hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
I'm hoping that if Satoshi Dice ever does a secondary offering, the "colored coin" & p2p exchange clients (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/chromawallet-colored-coins-issue-and-trade-private-currenciesstocksbonds-106373) will be mature enough so that ownership and distribution of assets can be done directly through the Blockchain, without 3rd parties.

Never going to happen. In the case of S.DICE the contract spells that out, but in the case of everyone else: if you are a legitimate business, circumventing the exchange does not, in fact, make sense. The only way what you propose makes sense is if someone is trying to play the lemon game. You can see that point discussed in more detail here.

Congratulations on getting exclusivity on that deal.  Well played.

To clarify, I don't foresee a future without brokers, exchangers, or financial services.  There will always be  a need for specialization and delegation; serious companies will continue to use specialist services.  But what I do think is inevitable, if Bitcoin is successful, is that people will demand zero-trust, blockchain-style, incorruptible pseudonymous ledgers as the lowest stratum for ownership of all their financial assets, not just BTC.  Then on top of that, you might get different kinds of providers catering to different scenarios: IPO handlers, fullservice brokers, discount brokers, trusts, etc., all coexisting on top of the same asset-tracking blockchain.

Within the various service types, undoubtedly we will see the network effects and survival of the fittest that you describe in your other post, and your company might become the premier entity in any of those segments.  But for risk mitigation purposes and for those who enjoy getting their hands dirty, the option would (should!) always exist to verify & transfer ownership of assets at a blockchain level, without intermediaries.

Zero trust for basic storage and ownership; with trust and fees for optional value-add services.  That's the Bitcoin model, and in my opinion it's a great model worth expanding to as many intangible assets as possible.
full member
Activity: 212
Merit: 100
The havelockinvestments.com site is down.  Two days after I put some bitcoins there...

I hate this game.  Angry

Hi all our sites are currently down. Server issue. I'm working on getting it fixed...

Everything is now operational again, sorry for the downtime!

James
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
The havelockinvestments.com site is down.  Two days after I put some bitcoins there...

I hate this game.  Angry

Havelock is one of the nicest implementations of a trading interface. I trade there and have put a substantial portion of money there. I've also withdrawn 15% of that money again with no problem. Lightbox is running things extremely well.

For some reason I trust these guys.

I've not been scammed a lot, but in the case it happened the page was extremely crappy (bitdaytrade or whatever they were called). If that's any indication, havelock is not a scam and can be trusted. (Of course it's not an indication).

Don't put more money than you can afford to lose into any investment.
full member
Activity: 212
Merit: 100
The havelockinvestments.com site is down.  Two days after I put some bitcoins there...

I hate this game.  Angry

Hi all our sites are currently down. Server issue. I'm working on getting it fixed...
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 506
The havelockinvestments.com site is down.  Two days after I put some bitcoins there...

I hate this game.  Angry
Have you PM'd lightbox?  Maybe a downside of it being a bricks and mortar outfit is that it's likely they have weekends (or Sundays at least) off and are unaware that there is a problem?
hero member
Activity: 522
Merit: 500
Hasta la Bitcoin siempre!
The havelockinvestments.com site is down.  Two days after I put some bitcoins there...

I hate this game.  Angry
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 501
There is more to Bitcoin than bitcoins.
If you have invested with them, what made you feel safe enough to invest your bitcoins?   
Time. I've been doing business there for a while. As for the initial step, see below.


Why can't I find any real information about them? 
Because you haven't really tried.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 522
I'm hoping that if Satoshi Dice ever does a secondary offering, the "colored coin" & p2p exchange clients (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/chromawallet-colored-coins-issue-and-trade-private-currenciesstocksbonds-106373) will be mature enough so that ownership and distribution of assets can be done directly through the Blockchain, without 3rd parties.

Never going to happen. In the case of S.DICE the contract spells that out, but in the case of everyone else: if you are a legitimate business, circumventing the exchange does not, in fact, make sense. The only way what you propose makes sense is if someone is trying to play the lemon game. You can see that point discussed in more detail here.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
If my understanding of the relationship between Havelock, MPEx and S.DICE is correct this is a weakest link scenario.  So whilst content enough to go ahead with some shares - even if it's just to say a silent thank you to all the players when when I see the bets piling through on the block chain - it is my assessment that the whole picture is a bit precarious for me to be looking at investing substantial sums right now.

My sentiment exactly.  It's hard enough to trust to trust the issuer, and then adding two more layers of potential failure and fraud top of that, it becomes pure gambling, not investing.

I'm hoping that if Satoshi Dice ever does a secondary offering, the "colored coin" & p2p exchange clients (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/chromawallet-colored-coins-issue-and-trade-private-currenciesstocksbonds-106373) will be mature enough so that ownership and distribution of assets can be done directly through the Blockchain, without 3rd parties.

We've successfully disintermediated banks and credit cards...now it's time to disintermediate exchanges.

hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 506
Havelock is run by the same guy who operates Canadian Bitcoins and Lightbox technologies.

http://www.lightbox.ca/

They have been around for a while now even before Bitcoin.

http://www.lightbox.ca/about.php



Many thanks, I will look into lightbox.  I have heard the name thrown around but didn't know what they did. 


Do you invest some of your BTCs through one of these services?

Yes, I have some shares at Havelock. I chat with James from time to time through his irc channel. I'm positive he's legit. Heck you can visit his office at Ottawa if you want to drop by.
There's a good chance some of the Bitcoin kid-operating-out-of-basement outfits will become very successful in due course but it's somewhat reassuring to know that at least this part of the process is a bricks-and-mortar established business.  I'm getting the sense that not all are happy to entrust their trades to MPEx but that's not a reflection on Havelock Investments.

If my understanding of the relationship between Havelock, MPEx and S.DICE is correct this is a weakest link scenario.  So whilst content enough to go ahead with some shares - even if it's just to say a silent thank you to all the players when when I see the bets piling through on the block chain - it is my assessment that the whole picture is a bit precarious for me to be looking at investing substantial sums right now.
donator
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
I don't know the company, but I've been using cavirtex for some time, they've been extremely reliable and I trust them as much as any company currently in Bitcoin. Based on that, I've invested a couple dozen BTC in the mining funds and S.Dice passthrough on Havelockinvestments.com. They don't seem to have a very high liquidity compared to other platforms, but their system is really good. I'm excited to watch them grow as they earn more trust, and more users find out about them.
full member
Activity: 212
Merit: 100
And I'm here too, so ask me anything, send me an email, give me a call, or stop by the office sometime Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1000
My money; Our Bitcoin.
Since August they have been in partnership with the Canadian Bitcoin exchange VirtEx (www.cavirtex.com), which has proven itself to be fairly trustworthy ( even though the dramatic increase in their fees has pretty much put an end to arbitrage opportunities with them... for small-time players like myself anyway.   Sad  ).
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
Havelock is run by the same guy who operates Canadian Bitcoins and Lightbox technologies.

http://www.lightbox.ca/

They have been around for a while now even before Bitcoin.

http://www.lightbox.ca/about.php



Many thanks, I will look into lightbox.  I have heard the name thrown around but didn't know what they did. 


Do you invest some of your BTCs through one of these services?

Yes, I have some shares at Havelock. I chat with James from time to time through his irc channel. I'm positive he's legit. Heck you can visit his office at Ottawa if you want to drop by.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 506

Do you invest some of your BTCs through one of these services?
I have made a small investment in S.DICE in recent days through Havelock on the basis of the conversation that was going on this thread.  No problems so far but I've not tried to sell, nor have there been any dividends so I'm not in a position to vouch for them much other than to say it was straightforward.  The web service seems to do what it says on the box!
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Havelock is run by the same guy who operates Canadian Bitcoins and Lightbox technologies.

http://www.lightbox.ca/

They have been around for a while now even before Bitcoin.

http://www.lightbox.ca/about.php



Many thanks, I will look into lightbox.  I have heard the name thrown around but didn't know what they did. 


Do you invest some of your BTCs through one of these services?
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
Havelock is run by the same guy who operates Canadian Bitcoins and Lightbox technologies.

http://www.lightbox.ca/

They have been around for a while now even before Bitcoin.

http://www.lightbox.ca/about.php

sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
This is one of the risks involved with Bitcoins and what it will be like from now on if you use Bitcoins regularly, you won't ever know 100% whether you can trust the person on the other end or that they are even who they say they are. What I would recommend if you're unsure about a company but they look professional invest a small amount of Bitcoins and see how it goes. The usual rules of investing apply, never invest more than you can afford to lose and always do checks on the company.

If you still feel you can't trust them then don't put any money in, all that will happen is you haven't made anything, but you also haven't lost anything either.

I don't know what I was hoping for.  I realize all of the above, but was hoping somebody had put together a dossier or something on these guys. 

Maybe I should start a bitocin service vetting company?  Hrm, no, too likely to be sued when an owner up and goes to malaysia. 

Thanks though!
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1000
This is one of the risks involved with Bitcoins and what it will be like from now on if you use Bitcoins regularly, you won't ever know 100% whether you can trust the person on the other end or that they are even who they say they are. What I would recommend if you're unsure about a company but they look professional invest a small amount of Bitcoins and see how it goes. The usual rules of investing apply, never invest more than you can afford to lose and always do checks on the company.

If you still feel you can't trust them then don't put any money in, all that will happen is you haven't made anything, but you also haven't lost anything either.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
I can't find anything about havelock investments that would convince me to trust them with my bitcoins.  I don't see havelock investments thread here that convinces me this is anything but another scam. 

https://www.havelockinvestments.com/contact.php

Has pretty basic and easily faked stuff.  I know they are a mining group, but that doesn't convince me to invest in their shares. 

Bitcoin reviews single comment doesn't give me any trust either:

http://www.thebitcoinreview.com/site.php?site_id=965

Who are they? 

If you have invested with them, what made you feel safe enough to invest your bitcoins?   

Why can't I find any real information about them? 

What is your personal opinion?



Thanks in advance -- I very much want to invest in SDICE but none of the available options put me at ease enough to do so.
Jump to: