Topic: Having kids (Read 1657 times)

This remind me of a quote from John Green

“There will come a time when all of us are dead. All of us. There will come a time when there are no human beings remaining to remember that anyone ever existed or that our species ever did anything. There will be no one left to remember Aristotle or Cleopatra, let alone you. Everything that we did and built and wrote and thought and discovered will be forgotten and all of this will have been for naught. Maybe that time is coming soon and maybe it is millions of years away, but even if we survive the collapse of our sun, we will not survive forever. There was time before organisms experienced consciousness, and there will be time after. And if the inevitability of human oblivion worries you, I encourage you to ignore it. God knows that’s what everyone else does.”
― John Green, The Fault in Our Stars

And, i'm planning to have a kid, to fulfill my life purpose

Too late, you already are.

the love of God / Universe, Dank, do not have children

And to all the people who are having kids so the sole reason of expanding their bloodline or "legacy", you do realize that we, as a species, aren't really special in the universal scheme of things.

Civilization will end, and forget you eventually. No matter how many children you have, how much fame or money you acquire, your DNA will eventually become so dilute after a few generations that "you," as a genetic entity, will cease to exist. Even the planet and the sun will one day die, as will perhaps the entire universe in heat death.

Reminds me of that joke "I like women ~ I think everyone should own one." 

i dont feel that i will be a good father

With these kind of posts You are showing how toxic You really are. You would like all people around You to be exactly like You, "I'm a parent so every one should be a parent to" "You don't have a child? You are a sic, toxic, untrustworthy  human"

No offense, just my opinion

I have 7 kids... seems to be treating me well..

your going to miss some part of your life

What the fuck? In my experience not having a child is a considerably more responsible act than those who squirt them out by the ton.

Before I'd even consider it I'd need to find a feminoid who was stable, trustworthy and wanted the same thing. Once that was in the bag I'd wait a minimum of 3-5 years to get to know them properly before I even started to think about it.

The alternative is to impregnate any stranger who's vaguely interested and then deal with a couple of decades of misery and screeching while the child slowly warps into a suicidal monster.

People who do jump into these things invariably end up getting ravaged. If I have to wait until way beyond 40 to fulfill those conditions then so be it.

Probably we have children for egoistic purposes, but this is natural! all world is egoistic, we want to do things to make us feel good and everyone wants that.

No big deal if 1/10 of population decides not to have children, anyway our population is to big and It's still getting bigger and bigger...

Call me silly if you wish, but it's better than being selfish.

I agree with the first part. Some people just aren't smart of financially stable enough  to look after kids, even though they might think they are.

Some people shouldn't breed.  They pass on their toxic genes. Like the pathological liars on this forum. They know who they are. Parasites that will self destruct.  There is some truth to eugenics.

I don't trust anyone who has such silly opinions. Having a child isn't a mark or trustworthiness or that there's something negative going on.

Both.

They won't know the feeling how happy it was to have a child.  

having a kid is the best gift ever. it taught me how to be responsible and be a good parent. i am so attached with my kid and it is so nice to be a good parent.

Warning: This is my opinion.

I do not trust anyone over the age of 40 that has not taken substantial personal responsibility for a child if they are physically, mentally, and financially able. There are many causes that require our attention, but human children are the future custodians of our legacy. You can rescue all the animals, donate millions of dollars, or discover the cure for death itself; but if you refuse to care for a child, then I feel you are missing the ability to bond, and that makes you untrustworthy. You can't hide yourself from a child. You can usually judge a person by the relationships they have with children.

I arbitrarily chose age 40 because most people are stable by then. The age isn't that important if the person is mature and financially responsible. I have friends that fall into this category. I will have beers with them. They usually know how to have a good time. But I can't trust them with anything important because they don't have any stake in the future.

If you think having kids is for selfish reasons then don't have kids no one is forcing you to.

And I will have as many wife and children as I can afford. You don't have to give big fortunes to your children all is needed is to give them good education so that they can survive life.

What's with the world today, so full of negativity and afraid to take responsibility. If all people think like this humanity would go extinct. They must be pretty dumb or very intelligent to figure it out that their genes is not good enough.

I don't have kids and I don't plan to have them in future. Right now I cannot see myself as a father and also don't feel any "father instinct" to have a child. Besides I'm currently broke 

No, do dont have any kids.

No kids, just 1 doge and a cat.

-cheaper
-cuter
-smarter
-won't fight me if I make them wear cute frilly things for photos

Gotta have a male to pass on the family name for me. Last in my name that's a male that can still have children.

it's just a biological drive, man.

You are obviously forget how you come to this world, and probably your parents made a mistake

I had one to fulfill happiness in my life.

Haha. Nicely put. There's enough children in the world already. Just adopt one and give it a loving home.

Bad rhetoric for having children:

- Passing on the family name.  Can you name all eight Great Grandparents?  All sixteen Great Great Grandparents?  How about their siblings?  Their hobbies and hometowns?  How can you "pass on a family name", if you don't know your own genealogy going back a few centuries?  Your hypothetical descendents in 200 years, unless you end up being a Bill Gates, won't have a clue who you are.

-  "They'll take care of me".  Fat chance, especially in North America and Australia, your kids will relocate to the other end of the continent and will likely have an estranged relationship with you over some trivial thing.  In Europe or Asia, your kids will probably be too broke to take care of you.

For the cost in raising a kid for 20 years (increasingly it's 22 to 25 years), in not having kids you will presumably have saved enough money for the world's best nursing home.  There are career advantages in not having kids, like being able to relocate on the whim for a better paying job

Bonus for not having children

- Save more money
- Freedom

We outsourced the manufacturing jobs to China.  I outsourced my baby making production to Somalia.

The reality is most children in the world are born under selfish reasons.  Some people want an interactive pet who can speak human back to them.  Some women see kids as a paycheque for life ("divorce me and I'll collect a paycheque for 25 years!").  Alternatively, a lot of people use kids as a vehicle to lock down their partner into a relationship.   Some guys think it's the epitome of masculinity to implant their seed into as many wombs as possible (baby daddy's of tomorrow).  Then there were people who were simply too lazy or ignorant to use contraceptives.

I think we are engrossed by the fact that we have made so many mistakes and how we could raise someone else, who would not do those mistakes and hence be more successful.
Therefore here these two options need not be contradictory, you can have children pass on what you have learnt in life and they can go ahead to fulfill their own purpose of life.

Not at all. I'm guessing you had yours for selfish reasons then? How many actually children grow up to see the world or even do anything even remotely interesting? Not many.

Kids are smart investment for future

One friend of mine said me the best experience that happen in his life is to have kids, and he never regret

Having kids, is like giving this kids a chance to live. Giving them chance to see the world. You will not know what they will do with their life if they became are successful or not. You are just afraid of responsibility.

I don't want children. Don't feel the need to have them at all. I think people usually have the for mostly selfish reasons.

It's pretty much the only reason any of us are here so I vote for the first option.

I don't have any and don't intend to. It's too goddamned risky if your relationship with the mother goes tits up.

The fellas I know whose relationships with their babymothers broke down all ended up destitute, homeless and broken.

I will remain a subversive uncle. Anyway there's enough people in the world already and I'm too old now.

I have young kids, I will teach them good things, I will guide them and let them choose what they want in their life.

why not both?

our purpose is to continue our family name

to reproduce humans

to make someone just as yourself who you can teach to avoid the mistakes you made

a version of you, just v1.2

it's both

fulfilling yours and their purpose

I probably won't have children, ever. So I don't have clear opinion on this one.

I don't have them because I'm having too much fun with without that kind of responsibility.  So I guess you could say I don't have them to fulfill my purpose.

I have trained my monkeys to clean the floor.  Unfortunately they're making more of a mess than they are cleaning.  So no they have not fulfilled their purpose in life.

Should you be walking out West?

Do you all have them to fulfill your purpose in life?  Or do you have them for them to fulfill their purpose in life?