Topic: Help get started on trading without my husband! Asking 0.04BTC - 0.11BTC (Read 463 times)

You are trying to scam the people by making some stories which is unacceptable one.Why you are portrait the gender in the thread which is not an essential one.The essential one is the collateral for the loan.


Are you seriously involved in crypto currency for the last five years and doesn’t have anything in the wallet.Very interesting story to the new people.Because your account was created on 29 June,2023.


You had good love towards your husband is welcome one.But making the loan thread without any collateral is not making any sense of humour.If you really need of loan,you should keep some equivalent collateral for high loan amount like 0.11 btc.

Meh, it's just a hunch.  I got to know elmanchez a bit when he was behaving himself, I guess I just have a little insight into his personality.  I have not done any research into grammar or vocabulary trends, no.

It'd be interesting if it is ps34 and or elmanchez. Any clues (grammar etc) with which you base that on?

Given the OP said their *cough* husband would cover their losses then offered no proof to back that assertion it shows how dim elmanchez / ps34's imagination has become. If it is them.

I think the same thing too.
I'm monitoring 2-3 accounts that in my opinion are connected with PS34, if only for the petulance (you really nailed the term, congratulations!  ) with which they beg for money

Of course it's a scam, there's nothing real about the OP's claims, not even the gender.  Also, I'm sure it's just another alt account of ps34 (aka elmanchez, don't ask me how I know, I just know.)  Not even AI can hide the entitlement and petulance.

You get threated as you deserve, threat people good with respect and you will get that back, be an asshole and you will get that back to (at the start but in the end you will just end up alone without friends or family)
I understand your intentions is right and good, but don't get blind out there, it will only hit back to you, thats also probably why many members have started to ignoring you and distrusted you, because they want to have fun when they on the internet on their free time and not arguing about things they haven't done.
Don't expect you can behave how ever you want without consecvences. BUT It's always free to be kind!  

Seems like he's a 12 year old stuck in a 50 year olds body, likes to role-play as Inspector Gadget and when other people refuse to be part of his delusional online world he gets angry and throws around some orange numbers in an online forum.

@OP, I'd suggest you close this thread as it is useless, no collateral, no loan.

Well, I have promised myself to control my tagging agressivity at least for a while but this account has everything to be wary of. She's basically a newbie asking for a non-collateral loan, supposedly behind her husband's back, but if it goes bad she's supposedly going to ask him for the money to pay it back too, even though she claims to have savings.

Overall this thread screams scam, scam, scam to me.

Also, as nutildah points out, the fact that she uses AI to write posts by basically copy and pasting or modifying very little doesn't speak very well of her honesty either.

And yet you continue to Troll me in my threads... 

Sure, most people wouldn't describe themselves as such, but the fact that you resort to AI to write your posts for you suggests your ethics aren't of the highest standards.


Give it a rest. Stop making yourself look like as big as an ass as you already have. Your fixation on this member is, once again, borderline psychotic.

Really, what's the matter?
Why this hatred?
What does this post have to do with me that you have to bring me up?

You made a mistake about me, other users proved you wrong, I continued to pay off my loans.
Why don't you want to have the humility to say: sorry, maybe I was wrong?

I repeat, I have nothing against you but this attitude of yours is becoming truly nefarious.

HedgeFX isn't a brand new account that joined the forum a week ago. Try and grab onto thicker branches if you can find those or drown like you did before.

Except you don't actually mean that or you wouldn't be lending to HedgeFX (sly wink) now would you?

May I ask what is preventing you from trading with your own money?

Sure, 0.097BTC is about three thousand US dollars (and may be a bit too much for you), but people on this forum usually loan to people who have some kind of security to store with the lender in return - a collateral basically. "secured credit cards" from banks work the same way.

The thing is, your adventure is not guarrenteed to return you the profit, which means if you are unable to pay back the $3,000, then the lender is screwed.

But then again, if $3K is too much for you, why are you trading with what you can't afford to lose? Trade with a smaller amount such as $500, or just buy $3000 worth of Bitcoin or Ethereum and wait until 2025 or 2026. And stay far far away from r/WallStreetBets.

Regardless of you as a woman allergic to advice, your proposal to ask for a loan is certain to be rejected because of collateral rules. Also your reasons, almost all users of this forum welcome the advice: "Borrowing money to trade is strongly discouraged". This is the basis for experienced borrowers supporting reasons to reject your request.

Unfortunately, you don't stand a chance here, do it somewhere else.

Is it also the other way around? Don't say that this will be the stupidest thing you've ever done.

You want something independent from your husband so you're looking for a retard online. No collateral, no loan.

Me saying I keep secrets from him anyway was more like a humorous snarky comment. It’s not like I cheat on him
Or anything.

I would NOT describe myself unethical. I have my reasons to keep my husband out of this. I haven’t had anything for myself in 5 years! I have been living my life with accidental baby poop on my hair, serving people who change their mind every 2 minutes and overall taking care of my husband.

So when I got into crypto I feel like I found something I can be truly passionate about. And it’s been two years and I have studied a LOT. A LOT LOT.

I don’t only want but I need this trading to be MY thing. If I put my husbands money on the line I already know how he will start advising me and before I know it he’s making trades with me and starts to dominate the whole thing. I know my husband, this is just who he is. I love him more than anything but sometimes I do something and it’s my secret until some time, this cause in August I will tell him about it with  hopefully good results (haven’t lost the money completely )

I would hardly call my secrets unethical 🙄🙄

You must be quite the lady. 

I have principles too, so I don't lend money to people who confess to being unethical unless I have guarantees to protect my investments.

Best of luck.

I wanted to do for ONCE something on my own and without always asking him for the money.

I COULD ask him but I dont WANT to ask him. Try being a stay at home wife for 5 years always asking for money for everything and everything. If I get the money from him, he will start pushing himself involved, giving me advice that annoy me and overall, this is MY thing.

He WILL pay off the loan if I screw up. It wont have an impact on our financies. This is about a principle.


Besides I keep secrets from my husband anyway 

Does your husband know this?  Keeping secrets about money is never a good thing for relationships.  Or maybe you should just ask him for the money because you're very unlikely to get a single sat here.

I'll tell you what; you go tell your husband that I agree to loan you BTC0.1 if he sends me BTC0.1 or $3660 USD worth of an altcoin, in advance.  Then I'll know we're all the same page and if you screw the pooch in your trading adventure, I'll be covered.

I believe that you can try gofundme or similar as long as you live in Europe such websites accept your countries to launch funding requests. Also it's better to join female crypto clubs there you will find a better chance search on clubhouse.

Doing this on my own means that I'm not just going to my husband and asking for the money. I want something that I have done independently from him.

While I am risking someone else's money and lets assume I lose it all, My husband will pay the loan back. In that case I would be deeply embarrassed and a bit annoyed. Because he's making the money in our household - and we are very uncomfortable - It just always feels like his money although its not.

I know all stay at home moms can relate that there comes a time when asking for money starts to feel humiliating. I just feel that if I do this trading completely on my own and pay the loan back with the money I saved (and will save) by selling stuff and doing small jobs there and there. Somehow it would make me feel incredibly proud.

2 more years and I can finally get back to work but this is the situation now.

SO my husband IS my backup plan which is why I wrote that 100% guaranteed. Maybe we can make a contract about this?


I also changed the amount from 1000-3000e

"Just an FYI; only scammers (regardless of gender) use claims of being female to elicit special treatment on the internet.  The more emphasis you put on claims of your gender, the more suspicious you seem."

Well Im not a scammer. And I haven't asked for any special treatment from anyone. I have been writing to this forum like I always write everywhere, my ADHD tends to impact a lot on my writing style. I just naturally saw myself as TheCryptoMom because Im always listening/watching or reading crypto related content and other moms have started to call me that as a joke already a while ago. I didn't know I had to hide my life situation, I like to add a personal aspect to my style of writing. I think most women do.

You're not doing it on your own if you're risking someone else's money, honey.



Just an FYI; only scammers (regardless of gender) use claims of being female to elicit special treatment on the internet.  The more emphasis you put on claims of your gender, the more suspicious you seem.

The conditions are pretty straightforward. Usually, the lender requires you to provide collateral, which serves as a security in case you're unable to repay the loan. It's like a backup plan for them, ensuring they have something to cash in on if things don't go as planned and you default on the loan. Your documents or use of escrow means nothing if you don't have collateral of equal or greater value to secure the deal.

The only way to get a no-collateral loan is if you have a notable history and reputation in the community. Given your current "condition" as a newbie, this is not possible.

0,097 BTC is not nothing.

You will need a valid collateral if you want someone willing to take the risk to give you this amount.

Thank you for your reply!

What do you mean by "my condition" ? What are the typical conditions to get a loan? I'm just curious, never done this before and I have no idea.

I think that it's impossible to have a loan in your condition.

Also trading is a risky action, you can lose everything.
It is advisable to risk in this case only what you are willing to lose. I mean your own money, not someone else's.

Hello Everyone

Help get started on trading without my husband! Asking 0.04BTC - 0.11BTC, 100% guaranteed payback with interest <3

Not sure anyone will actually borrow me money, I read the "how to recognise a scam" post and there was "anyone stating they are a female" (me and my stay at home mom wanting to start a new hobby) and "anyone selling Apple anything " (me putting up an extra iPhone for sale my husband got from work so I can use the Bitcoin for trading). But I'm not not a scam, I'm a newbie on this forum who's developed a huge interest towards crypto. I have spent the past year watching any possible video on YouTube and read hundreds and hundreds of articles whenever I have had time and listening to podcasts while doing housework.

I was planning to find someone who's willing to Loan me the crypto so I can start trading. I have been putting aside extra money and will be able to pay back mid August. But I just registered here and I really want to start trading now. I have studied the trading AIs so well and I'm confident i can make this work, I have always been really good at math and even at school did the most difficult math studies and got a perfect score from all 20 courses (not so much from some others   ) I KNOW I can do this, I also want to show my husband that I can do this, after spending 5 years home with the kids my brain needs intellectual challenge.

Not sure how this Loaning thing works or if anyone is even willing to take the risk to loan for such a newbie but if you are, contact me and I will provide the required documents (?) or we use an escrow etc.

Edit: If anyone is wondering why I don't just use the money I have saved up. Loan is a different thing, I still need to have this back up money just in case something happens or surprising comes up. Let's say I completely fail in trading and by mid August the capital is gone and its time to pay off the loan. Then I go to my husband all humbled who can easily pay this off. I'm a stubborn woman   who refuses to ask for her husband for the money, I want to do this on my own, pay off the debt in Mid August. By that time I'm willing to keep this additional "rainy day" money I have in my trading and take the risks involved but not when I'm only starting out. Just trying to be smart here.