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July 17, 2013, 12:07:44 AM
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Looks good. You already have an Intel LGA 1155 CPU? Because your original motherboard was AMD.

You will need a case with at least eight expansion slots since one of the x16's you need is the last one on the bottom (double slot GPUs). That Rosewill looks good and has plenty of expansion slots. The case I used to use (Antec One Hundred) is discontinued now, but it sure was cheap.

Also, dump the CrossFire.

Can't afford an I3 at the moment. Any of these good

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Pentium-Graphics-Retail-Processor/dp/B0050W1Z3E/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374035473&sr=1-9&keywords=intel+lga+1155+processor
?.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LTU6VI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
I'd go for the Pentium G2120 - it's Ivy Bridge.

Ended up buying http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004JEVGMO/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Looks good. You already have an Intel LGA 1155 CPU? Because your original motherboard was AMD.

You will need a case with at least eight expansion slots since one of the x16's you need is the last one on the bottom (double slot GPUs). That Rosewill looks good and has plenty of expansion slots. The case I used to use (Antec One Hundred) is discontinued now, but it sure was cheap.

Also, dump the CrossFire.

Can't afford an I3 at the moment. Any of these good

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Pentium-Graphics-Retail-Processor/dp/B0050W1Z3E/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374035473&sr=1-9&keywords=intel+lga+1155+processor
?.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LTU6VI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
I'd go for the Pentium G2120 - it's Ivy Bridge.
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First off, I'm not sure I can personally recommend doing this setup with that motherboard, unless you are using powered risers. Motherboards from OEMs (looks like this is/was in a HP PC) aren't really meant to be setup like this. They may have power issues, or their BIOS may not appreciate video cards in x1 slots (though it usually works).

You will need risers, though, unless you modify the x1 ports to be open on the end (and then you run into potential power issues, remember each card can pull up to 75W from a slot - this motherboard will not like up to 225W going through its PCI-E slots, especially the x1's). This also means you will have to make a custom case or ditch the case altogether.

I'd recommend that you take a look at other motherboards that have enough x16 slots. This will shirk any possible issues arising from a junk OEM motherboard and let you have a proper case. Though I'm not sure if your budget will allow for this.

As for power supplies, I can definitely recommend NZXT Hale90's and my most recent PSU selection, the Cooler Master V1000.

Here are the risers a lot of people choose.

Rehashed the plan over the last hour or so ending up with hopefully a good selection of motherboard + parts listed via OP. Please let me know what you think. MB supports 3 PCI Express 3.0, 1 PCI-E 2.0, and 5 PCI x1 slots
Looks good. You already have an Intel LGA 1155 CPU? Because your original motherboard was AMD.

You will need a case with at least eight expansion slots since one of the x16's you need is the last one on the bottom (double slot GPUs). That Rosewill looks good and has plenty of expansion slots. The case I used to use (Antec One Hundred) is discontinued now, but it sure was cheap.

Also, dump the CrossFire.

Can't afford an I3 at the moment. Any of these good

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Pentium-Graphics-Retail-Processor/dp/B0050W1Z3E/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374035473&sr=1-9&keywords=intel+lga+1155+processor
?.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LTU6VI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
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First off, I'm not sure I can personally recommend doing this setup with that motherboard, unless you are using powered risers. Motherboards from OEMs (looks like this is/was in a HP PC) aren't really meant to be setup like this. They may have power issues, or their BIOS may not appreciate video cards in x1 slots (though it usually works).

You will need risers, though, unless you modify the x1 ports to be open on the end (and then you run into potential power issues, remember each card can pull up to 75W from a slot - this motherboard will not like up to 225W going through its PCI-E slots, especially the x1's). This also means you will have to make a custom case or ditch the case altogether.

I'd recommend that you take a look at other motherboards that have enough x16 slots. This will shirk any possible issues arising from a junk OEM motherboard and let you have a proper case. Though I'm not sure if your budget will allow for this.

As for power supplies, I can definitely recommend NZXT Hale90's and my most recent PSU selection, the Cooler Master V1000.

Here are the risers a lot of people choose.

Rehashed the plan over the last hour or so ending up with hopefully a good selection of motherboard + parts listed via OP. Please let me know what you think. MB supports 3 PCI Express 3.0, 1 PCI-E 2.0, and 5 PCI x1 slots
Looks good. You already have an Intel LGA 1155 CPU? Because your original motherboard was AMD.

You will need a case with at least eight expansion slots since one of the x16's you need is the last one on the bottom (double slot GPUs). That Rosewill looks good and has plenty of expansion slots. The case I used to use (Antec One Hundred) is discontinued now, but it sure was cheap.

Also, dump the CrossFire.
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Newer drivers eliminate the need for dummy plugs. Crossfire, I wouldn't use it.
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First off, I'm not sure I can personally recommend doing this setup with that motherboard, unless you are using powered risers. Motherboards from OEMs (looks like this is/was in a HP PC) aren't really meant to be setup like this. They may have power issues, or their BIOS may not appreciate video cards in x1 slots (though it usually works).

You will need risers, though, unless you modify the x1 ports to be open on the end (and then you run into potential power issues, remember each card can pull up to 75W from a slot - this motherboard will not like up to 225W going through its PCI-E slots, especially the x1's). This also means you will have to make a custom case or ditch the case altogether.

I'd recommend that you take a look at other motherboards that have enough x16 slots. This will shirk any possible issues arising from a junk OEM motherboard and let you have a proper case. Though I'm not sure if your budget will allow for this.

As for power supplies, I can definitely recommend NZXT Hale90's and my most recent PSU selection, the Cooler Master V1000.

Here are the risers a lot of people choose.

Rehashed the plan over the last hour or so ending up with hopefully a good selection of motherboard + parts listed via OP. Please let me know what you think. MB supports 3 PCI Express 3.0, 1 PCI-E 2.0, and 5 PCI x1 slots
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Those risers look the pretty much the same, but maybe someone with experience using risers can chime in.

As for that XFX power supply, all I can say about XFX is that of my only failures in the last two years, it was XFX. I found one review for their 1250W model, and it seems decent. It's on a Seasonic platform, but it's multiple rails instead of a single rail. The power supply is one of the most important parts in a mining rig, and the Cooler Master V1000 is only $30 more even after XFX's rebate.

Ok ok your right I shouldn't skimp on the most important part of the pc. Bronze version is $45 cheaper than gold. Since this is a trusted brand is bronze certification good enough or pay the extra $45? http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Silent-Pro-RSA00-AMBAJ3-US/dp/B002RWJGCM/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374021819&sr=1-2&keywords=Cooler+Master+V1000

Edit:

After thoughts are these psu's going to fit in the case? Currently have a 750w installed without much room for improvement.
How do the cards run without plugging into a screen?
That looks like a decent model, less top-of-the-line components and older than the V1000. Gets better reviews than the XFX and I'd trust it more. But I think the better efficiency of the V1000 will pay for the increase in cost over time in saved power (from reviews, on 120V it looks like you'll only get a bit better than 80% efficiency with your rig, whereas the V1000 hovers around 90%). So frankly it's up to you.

And, yeah, if you're putting this in a stock HP case, good luck... not only will things be tight, cooling will be hectic. You may want to consider an open air setup or get a better case. Honestly I can't even imagine trying to cool a rig properly inside any OEM case.

As for a headless mining rig, I believe it's been posted about before. For Linux, it's pretty easy. For Windows, I think you still need dummy plugs.

I think you may also want to ask yourself if mining is right for you. There's a lot to know and a lot can go wrong, and it's barely profitable right now for scrypt coins anyways. You may end up spending more than you'd like to do it right and not come out ahead.

Perhaps you can recommend a case? Total cost of this project so far is $566 $610 so we're still well within budget. Found it tutorial on how to make dummy plugs http://forum.litebonk.com/index.php?topic=435.0? Sounds easy enough... Is this the power supply you were talking about earlier? http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-V--Modular-Certification/dp/B00CGY4ETG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374025416&sr=1-1&keywords=Cooler+Master+V1000 Might as well spend the extra $40 for better preformance.

A few points in response to your last comment

I might not know much about the hardware side of things. As long as I can get the parts installed and running all the little hiccups thereafter shouldn't be to much of an issue. Honestly if mining doesn't end up  profitable it's a non-issue since this isn't a dedicated mining rig. The only purpose it serves is mining the specific altcoins I've invested in whenever the computer would normally be off (at night). It wont be running all the time. As far as power usage goes my rent is a one lump sum payment with utilities included so again power is a non-issue. Lastly this money was won on one of those dice gambling sites (vary lucky 5x rolls I bet BTC1 and won 5BTC 3 times in a row) essentially making it a free rig. After that lucky incident I figured the best thing to do would be to put the winnings to good use instead of blowing the money on crap no one needs. After a few altcoin investments went well I decided to start mining to help further improve investment profits. Even though it is technically free I'd rather not waste it by buying crap parts if at all possible. Even if that's not how this thread has sounded so far.

 After everything is purchased/installed all that's left is learning how to properly care for everything and saving more money to buy a motherboard, case, cpu, and hard drive to complete the full rig build next month or the following.
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Those risers look the pretty much the same, but maybe someone with experience using risers can chime in.

As for that XFX power supply, all I can say about XFX is that of my only failures in the last two years, it was XFX. I found one review for their 1250W model, and it seems decent. It's on a Seasonic platform, but it's multiple rails instead of a single rail. The power supply is one of the most important parts in a mining rig, and the Cooler Master V1000 is only $30 more even after XFX's rebate.

Ok ok your right I shouldn't skimp on the most important part of the pc. Bronze version is $45 cheaper than gold. Since this is a trusted brand is bronze certification good enough or pay the extra $45? http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Silent-Pro-RSA00-AMBAJ3-US/dp/B002RWJGCM/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374021819&sr=1-2&keywords=Cooler+Master+V1000

Edit:

After thoughts are these psu's going to fit in the case? Currently have a 750w installed without much room for improvement.
How do the cards run without plugging into a screen?
That looks like a decent model, less top-of-the-line components and older than the V1000. Gets better user reviews than the XFX and I'd trust it more. But I think the better efficiency of the V1000 will pay for the increase in cost over time in saved power (from reviews, on 120V it looks like you'll only get a bit better than 80% efficiency with your rig, whereas the V1000 hovers around 90%). So frankly it's up to you.

And, yeah, if you're putting this in a stock HP case, good luck... not only will things be tight, cooling will be hectic. You may want to consider an open air setup or get a better case. Honestly I can't even imagine trying to cool a rig properly inside any OEM case.

As for a headless mining rig, I believe it's been posted about before. For Linux, it's pretty easy. For Windows, I think you still need dummy plugs.

I think you may also want to ask yourself if mining is right for you. There's a lot to know and a lot can go wrong, and it's barely profitable right now for scrypt coins anyways. You may end up spending more than you'd like to do it right and not come out ahead.

EDIT: Actually checking out the reviews it seems the cross-load stability sucks for that Cooler Master model. While probably not going to pose a problem, I'd shoot for the V1000 knowing that and the better efficiency.
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oops double post

If someone can chime in on these last few questions I'll click that buy button and post pics asap!
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First off, I'm not sure I can personally recommend doing this setup with that motherboard, unless you are using powered risers. Motherboards from OEMs (looks like this is/was in a HP PC) aren't really meant to be setup like this. They may have power issues, or their BIOS may not appreciate video cards in x1 slots (though it usually works).

You will need risers, though, unless you modify the x1 ports to be open on the end (and then you run into potential power issues, remember each card can pull up to 75W from a slot - this motherboard will not like up to 225W going through its PCI-E slots, especially the x1's). This also means you will have to make a custom case or ditch the case altogether.

I'd recommend that you take a look at other motherboards that have enough x16 slots. This will shirk any possible issues arising from a junk OEM motherboard and let you have a proper case. Though I'm not sure if your budget will allow for this.

As for power supplies, I can definitely recommend NZXT Hale90's and my most recent PSU selection, the Cooler Master V1000.

Here are the risers a lot of people choose.

Since my budget can't support a totally new rig would you recommend buying powered raisers as a best alternative? The only issue I can think of is these cards wont fit in the case. Maybe with the door off everything could fit better? With the door removed it would be easier to jury rig some sort of support for each card so that's a plus. Dust not so much...  

Unfortunately those risers are all sold out is this the same thing? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-Express-Extension-Cable-1x-to-16x-with-Powered-Riser-/261230188196?pt=US_Drive_Cables_dapters&hash=item3cd28856a4. Any advise on this power supply? http://www.amazon.com/XFX-PRO1050W-Compatible-Certified-P11050BEFX/dp/B0066AH46G/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374015855&sr=1-3&keywords=Seasonic+1250w reviews are mostly good and 1050w is on sale for about $50 cheaper than the one above.
Those risers look the pretty much the same, but maybe someone with experience using risers can chime in.

As for that XFX power supply, all I can say about XFX is that of my only failures in the last two years, it was XFX. I found one review for their 1250W model, and it seems decent. It's on a Seasonic platform, but it's multiple rails instead of a single rail. The power supply is one of the most important parts in a mining rig, and the Cooler Master V1000 is only $30 more even after XFX's rebate.

Ok ok your right I shouldn't skimp on the most important part of the pc. Bronze version is $45 cheaper than gold. Since this is a trusted brand is bronze certification good enough or pay the extra $45? http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Silent-Pro-RSA00-AMBAJ3-US/dp/B002RWJGCM/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374021819&sr=1-2&keywords=Cooler+Master+V1000


Edit:

After thoughts are these psu's going to fit in the case? Currently have a 750w installed without much room for improvement.
How do the cards run without plugging into a screen?
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First off, I'm not sure I can personally recommend doing this setup with that motherboard, unless you are using powered risers. Motherboards from OEMs (looks like this is/was in a HP PC) aren't really meant to be setup like this. They may have power issues, or their BIOS may not appreciate video cards in x1 slots (though it usually works).

You will need risers, though, unless you modify the x1 ports to be open on the end (and then you run into potential power issues, remember each card can pull up to 75W from a slot - this motherboard will not like up to 225W going through its PCI-E slots, especially the x1's). This also means you will have to make a custom case or ditch the case altogether.

I'd recommend that you take a look at other motherboards that have enough x16 slots. This will shirk any possible issues arising from a junk OEM motherboard and let you have a proper case. Though I'm not sure if your budget will allow for this.

As for power supplies, I can definitely recommend NZXT Hale90's and my most recent PSU selection, the Cooler Master V1000.

Here are the risers a lot of people choose.

Since my budget can't support a totally new rig would you recommend buying powered raisers as a best alternative? The only issue I can think of is these cards wont fit in the case. Maybe with the door off everything could fit better? With the door removed it would be easier to jury rig some sort of support for each card so that's a plus. Dust not so much...  

Unfortunately those risers are all sold out is this the same thing? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-Express-Extension-Cable-1x-to-16x-with-Powered-Riser-/261230188196?pt=US_Drive_Cables_dapters&hash=item3cd28856a4. Any advise on this power supply? http://www.amazon.com/XFX-PRO1050W-Compatible-Certified-P11050BEFX/dp/B0066AH46G/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374015855&sr=1-3&keywords=Seasonic+1250w reviews are mostly good and 1050w is on sale for about $50 cheaper than the one above.
Those risers look the pretty much the same, but maybe someone with experience using risers can chime in.

As for that XFX power supply, all I can say about XFX is that of my only failures in the last two years, it was XFX. I found one review for their 1250W model, and it seems decent. It's on a Seasonic platform, but it's multiple rails instead of a single rail. The power supply is one of the most important parts in a mining rig, and the Cooler Master V1000 is only $30 more even after XFX's rebate.
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First off, I'm not sure I can personally recommend doing this setup with that motherboard, unless you are using powered risers. Motherboards from OEMs (looks like this is/was in a HP PC) aren't really meant to be setup like this. They may have power issues, or their BIOS may not appreciate video cards in x1 slots (though it usually works).

You will need risers, though, unless you modify the x1 ports to be open on the end (and then you run into potential power issues, remember each card can pull up to 75W from a slot - this motherboard will not like up to 225W going through its PCI-E slots, especially the x1's). This also means you will have to make a custom case or ditch the case altogether.

I'd recommend that you take a look at other motherboards that have enough x16 slots. This will shirk any possible issues arising from a junk OEM motherboard and let you have a proper case. Though I'm not sure if your budget will allow for this.

As for power supplies, I can definitely recommend NZXT Hale90's and my most recent PSU selection, the Cooler Master V1000.

Here are the risers a lot of people choose.

Since my budget can't support a totally new rig would you recommend buying powered raisers as a best alternative? The only issue I can think of is these cards wont fit in the case. Maybe with the door off everything could fit better? With the door removed it would be easier to jury rig some sort of support for each card so that's a plus. Dust not so much...  

Unfortunately those risers are all sold out is this the same thing? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCI-Express-Extension-Cable-1x-to-16x-with-Powered-Riser-/261230188196?pt=US_Drive_Cables_dapters&hash=item3cd28856a4. Any advise on this power supply? http://www.amazon.com/XFX-PRO1050W-Compatible-Certified-P11050BEFX/dp/B0066AH46G/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374015855&sr=1-3&keywords=Seasonic+1250w reviews are mostly good and 1050w is on sale for about $50 cheaper than the one above.
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First off, I'm not sure I can personally recommend doing this setup with that motherboard, unless you are using powered risers. Motherboards from OEMs (looks like this is/was in a HP PC) aren't really meant to be setup like this. They may have power issues, or their BIOS may not appreciate video cards in x1 slots (though it usually works).

You will need risers, though, unless you modify the x1 ports to be open on the end (and then you run into potential power issues, remember each card can pull up to 75W from a slot - this motherboard will not like up to 225W going through its PCI-E slots, especially the x1's). This also means you will have to make a custom case or ditch the case altogether.

I'd recommend that you take a look at other motherboards that have enough x16 slots. This will shirk any possible issues arising from a junk OEM motherboard and let you have a proper case. Though I'm not sure if your budget will allow for this.

As for power supplies, I can definitely recommend NZXT Hale90's and my most recent PSU selection, the Cooler Master V1000.

Here are the risers a lot of people choose.
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So basically what I want to do is upgrade my gaming pc to run more GPU's and pump more KH/Sec. This is the motherboard http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c01925486#N421 Currently have 1 Sapphaire Radeon 6870 running @ 292/kh

To buy list UPDATED I have no affiliation with amazon or any other site posted below

Total cost $1,060 (including expedited shipping where available) a little over budget not to bad though

Keep in mind this build is dual purpose Gaming/Mining NOT a dedicated mining unit. You may choose to skimp in places I did not like case, xfire, processor ect.

These two Radeon's should get about 660 kh/sec each and play any game in full hd max settings!

Radeon 6970 2GB GPU x2 - on sale $199 Got a great deal on these for 199 + 6 shipping easily saved 100+ per unit by searching for good deals. 1 still available on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004GCIZ5A/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A17KMU5Q2BLCNV

Cooler Master V-Series - 1000W Power Supply with Fully Modular Cables and 80 PLUS Gold Certification - $190
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002RWJGCM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Crossfire can be disabled for mining purposes (better hash rate)

XFX Crossfire Bridge Video Card - $5.95 Cheap and good review what more can a guy ask for?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004RIOFPM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3IDT9F5A1GWX6

PCIe 1x to 16x Powered Flexible Riser Extender Cable - x2 $10.93 each
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CQBCKPY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1F7PLG6IW3IO6

75 Ohm 1W Flameproof Resistor 10 Pcs -$10 Great if your on a budget/can only afford a cheap motherboard.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002ZP1J8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2T9G15QSM4M3M

Belkin F2E4162 DVI-I Adapter $5 x2 This + 15 ohm resistor makes a dummy plug view tutorial here http://forum.litebonk.com/index.php?topic=435.0
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F2E4162-DVI-I-Adapter/dp/B000067RL2/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374029548&sr=1-10&keywords=dvi+to+vga

Motherboard

MSI Computer Corp. DDR3 1066 Intel-LGA 1155 Motherboard Z77A-G45 GAMING
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer-Corp-Z77A-G45-GAMING/dp/B00CBFPZDO/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374030111&sr=1-1&keywords=+++++MSI+Z77A-45+Motherboard

Case

Rosewill Gaming ATX Full Tower Computer Case, Black THOR V2 - $111 This case is kick @$$ can't wait till it arrives. So much space and air flow exactly what is needed for mining and gaming.
http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Gaming-Computer-THOR-V2/dp/B0058P5S9A/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374032885&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=cross+air+gaming+tower

Processor

Intel Core i3-2100 Dual-Core Processor 3.1 GHz 3 MB Cache LGA 1155 - $119 Pretty decent processor for the money even so I will end up upgrading to a i7 sometime down the road.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004JEVGMO/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1




Budget $900
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