Topic: Here is my bedtime story for you about moon, market and riching quick (Read 8934 times)

This story seems very amusing. I will have to read it one day. Is there an english translation somewhere?

I'm sure that worked wonders for you, and made you much open minded, curious and analytic. When we are presented with opposite truths, especially when kids, we develop critical thinking skills as we need them to assimilate and understand. When the truth presented to us is univocal, usually we just accept it.

The cold ware never ended... you just swapped it for the war on drugs and the war on terror. How's that going for ya?

I bumped this thread due to Avalon rumors. But you immediately triggered this topic. Whats going on? Guilty mind betrays itself?

Indeed, when I was a child, I read many stories from different culture, but some of them just feel so strange (those from south east asia, island countries), different value and logic, typically the main character died and part of his body become this this and this island 

Best thing in the world would be to read to our children many stories, each one coming from different places and cultures, and see how they react to each one. Beautiful but quite difficult task, especially nowadays as everything is pretty much globalized and uniform.

Wow! And to think, I was reading stories like "The Color Kittens", "Mr. Pine's Purple House", and "Hello Moon".

Aren't cultural differences fascinating

99% of mass-distributed content for kids is bloated with brainwashing propaganda. Das Blaue Von Himmel was socialist propaganda, Walt Disney is capitalist propaganda, and you can count examples like those by the thousands. Do not forget that in most cultures entertainment for kids = educating, and "educating" is a tricky word.

That's why I never understood how parents can feed their small children with all that mainstream products without even taking a look at them. And the few that take a look at them, don't even seem to realize the obvious subtext in those stories.

My favorite book from childhood in the good old German Democratic Republic is "Das Blaue Vom Himmel" by Hannes Hüttner.
Its one of the most entertaining and phantasy rich stories I ever read (or have been read to). It features a boy that builds a rocket (what coincidence..?) from his old wooden cabin to embark on a search for his two brothers that have been missing on curd star. Whith him travel 2 robots, a crossbreed of dog and tomato and a basilisk. Lots of crazy stuff happens many peculiar characters show up during the adventure, there is for example the dancing sausage team from "Schlaraffenland", a German version of candy mountain and slowly moving giants on moon, that take so long to move that it takes them decades to ask a question. I also remember the gandfather that cant find the door lock to his key one night, so he paints a a white circle around it, too bad that his door is white in ther first place, so has to color it black, done he discovers that his house was black to begin whit so he has to color it white so he ends up trying to make the night white and the day black and so forth..
Even being a child though, I realized the socialist propaganda and themes this book thries to convey, if you can look beyond it though, its as rich of ideas and quirky humor as a Hitch Hiker's guide to Galaxy!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OncZBlj9tSo

LOOOOOL, now I totally get it - good one lucif!!

Glad you did, I missed this beautiful story. Any chance that book have an English translation?

Edit:
Found some Dunno stories but not this you were talking about:
http://www.arvindguptatoys.com/arvindgupta/mir-nosov-dunno.pdf

I'm confused.  I'm confused by the story and what it represents.  It seemed a really long and complicated story and what is the moral, that "everyone except the bourgeoisie gets screwed"?  

I'm also confused by you, lucif, I thought you made a new character and abandoned the old one.  Did you just create a sock puppet to maintain the analyst thread?

Well, I should bump this topic up =) hehe

I question science.

Particle physicists had to remove consciousness before they could repeatably study matter on a small scale.  All we know about quantum mechanics can be overpowered by our will.

I congratulate AVALON with passing through all skeptics, trollings, temptations and borders described and missed here.

I really surprised that unknown group of nerds was able to bring somthing really new and amazing to the world. This really surprised me. Hat off.

However that was a kickstart and situation still evolves.

In a name of science: QUESTION EVERYTHING.

Ahh, "Neználek na měsíci", my favourite book of childhood  . But comrades did a poor job - I liked the book, but the economics and social aspects in these stories never catch my attention 

Hehe, you must be kidding? Promises?

Indeed it does:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/content/129-13-jan-13-asic-update.html

A fun read for the children:

The adventures of Johnathan Gullible
http://www.bastiatinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/jonathangulliblecomm.pdf

The story continues

https://www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.php?topic=1041.msg3093#msg3093

lol 

but they won't buy it since it's such an obvious scam.

Jesus christ, what a bunch of dumb asses these guys are.
There is so much opportunity and they just won't take it.
Society squandering money and living in unnecessary luxury? Open a bank!
Rat infested barracks? Open a kebab shop!
What's there not to like?
But no, the duo goes out to eat in fancy resturangs and tries to rob them blind.
And then what, becoming a milionaire with salt but then failing to sell on time? mutherf*%#ng facepalm.
And then the giant fruit.
Did you ever buy really big giant fruit? And why not?
Because fruit rots. Big fruit rots big time.
By the end of the week your giant fruit will have become a giant pool of fermenting ooze.
I'm guessing the story doesnt mention me acquiring a monopoly on the idea of XL refrigerators but that is besides the point.
The point is, they really haven't got a clue and should have never  left  earth  in  the  first  place !

So i was thinking,.. maybe we can sell them some bitcoin....

For Pinocchio in Russia we have own story: Buratino.
https://www.google.ru/search?num=10&hl=ru&newwindow=1&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=978&q=%D0%B1%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE&oq=%D0%91%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%BE&gs_l=img.3.0.0i10.1221.2732.0.4434.7.7.0.0.0.0.185.1094.1j6.7.0...0.0...1ac.1.vw-xxX0bGEc
Cartoon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBrVN3wiuV8
or film: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrwWzoz710E

And what is more: we have russian counterpart of "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" named "The Wizard of the Emerald City". Unlike in original version we have 6 books in that series and minimum two spinoff's by other authors

Interesting story.

I see elements of H.G. Wells "First Men In the Moon" there:
Two men build a space ship out of a material that negates gravity. They travel to the moon where the become separated. They discover insect like creatures living below the moons surface. They are captured and imprisoned, eventually escaping.  However, in the H.G. Wells story, one man brings gold that he discovered on the moon back to earth with him making him wealthy.

I noticed a bit from Pinocchio as well (sending the misbehaving boys to "Fools Island" which turns them into sheep").

that already?

Some pics of giant seeds exposed to sociaty of mites

http://codinginmysleep.com/coding-in-my-sleep-goes-to-ces/

lol

no wonder we won the Cold War. 

Don't mess with other people's rocketships. Got it.

why so loled?
This exciting tale was loved by soviet children. I'm not an exeption

God bless Mother Russia

i loled

It was a first book I read being a child. Nikolay Nosov "Dunno on tha Moon".

Znayka discovers that his moon rock (that he obtained from his previous travel to the Moon) creates a no gravity zone when interacting with a magnetic field. He uses this knowledge to build a rocket ship that will go to the moon much more easily because of being virtually weightless. However, Dunno and Ponchik are not allowed to go; Dunno, because of his undisciplined behavior, and Ponchik, because of his inability to cope with non-gravity effects. The night before the rocket launch, Dunno and Ponchik sneak into the ship and accidentally launch the rocket.

When they arrive on the moon, Dunno and Ponchik become separated and Dunno falls through a cave and discovers a whole separate society of mites living inside the moon. However, unlike on Earth, these mites do not have "giant food" (that is, their fruit and vegetables are sized in proportion to the mites, rather than to normal humans like on Earth). The moon society is a corrupt capitalistic state: the millionaires control all the factories and squander their money away on unnecessary luxuries, the police is violent, corrupt, and stupid, everyday citizens struggle to survive and live in rat infested barracks
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Dunno gets thrown into jail for not having money to pay for his meal at a restaurant and is mistaken for a wanted criminal by the stupid police officers. In jail he meets Miga - a fast-talking schemer, and Kozlik - a poor, gentle worker. Upon getting released from jail, Miga introduces Kozlik and Dunno to Zhulio - another con man, and the four decide to start a company selling stocks to raise money to get "giant seeds" from Dunno's rocket ship and plant them on the moon. The stocks sell well and soon the four friends have lots of money.



However, some of the local millionaire businessmen are worried that giant food will mean that poor workers can get richer and the millionaires may lose money. Their leader, Spruts, convinces Miga and Zhulio to steal the money and run leaving Dunno and Kozlik jobless and penniless.





Meanwhile, Ponchik finds the same cave and also goes inside the moon. However, he quickly discovers salt and opens his own business making and selling it. He becomes a millionaire but then becomes bankrupt when the price of salt becomes too low. Then Ponchik becomes an average worker.

Dunno and Kozlik work odd jobs but are still starving and living in poverty in a rat infested basement. Kozlik gets bit by a rat and becomes sick. Just then, Dunno gets a job as a dog nanny for a rich woman and makes enough money for a doctor for Kozlik who slowly recovers, but the rich woman finds out that Dunno took her dogs to the rat infested basement and fires him. Dunno and Kozlik then end up living on the street. Since Kozlik has lost his hat and Dunno lost his shoes they are breaking the law and get sent to Fool's Island which has a toxic gas that turns all the people there into sheep which are then sheared for their wool.

Later Dunno's friends come to Moon with giant seeds, which results in elimination of poverty and establishment of a communism-like economical system.

Thats all folks. Sleep tight