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Quote from: treather on November 28, 2017, 01:22:29 AM

Sales trashing, you should be negged for that. His refusal to show you an address with the said amount is his right. You cannot force someone to do that, this does not amount to a scam. If you are disappointed by his behavior, simply take your business elsewhere, instead of wasting your time and that of others here.

Surely, you must have something better to do?

For me to send 11000 dollars plus 360 dollars in non refundable fees just to send the money I want confirmation he has the funds

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Quote from: Danos on November 28, 2017, 10:37:20 AM

Quote from: jinksters09 on November 28, 2017, 09:40:31 AM

Trying to bust someone with a scammer accusations or allegations just because he doesn't show his/her wallet address. I mean come on men it's not like the transaction is done or mission accomplished something like that. Make a smooth transaction first before you get your head start with claiming someone with scammer you can make this allegations if you have enough claims that he/she doesn't do her part in the negotiations.

Everyone who provide services/sales and refusing transparency is shady and means he's hiding something.
Legit seller would never refuse to provide valid verification for his funds/hardware to the community to make his deals more easy.
Simple logic.

Simple logic ? Sending messages to one of my possible customers saying I'm a scammer with baseless accusations ? And later on sending me a private message in regards of negotiation ? What do you think ? You can fool me like you tried with your alts ? hahaha. Keep doing it. Calling me a kid you ? 23yo ? kk. This is the thing. If you don't come with real accusations. Your just another scammer that's really simple to understand, is like you and your alt accounts against me and the forum, good luck there.

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Quote from: jinksters09 on November 28, 2017, 09:40:31 AM

Trying to bust someone with a scammer accusations or allegations just because he doesn't show his/her wallet address. I mean come on men it's not like the transaction is done or mission accomplished something like that. Make a smooth transaction first before you get your head start with claiming someone with scammer you can make this allegations if you have enough claims that he/she doesn't do her part in the negotiations.

Everyone who provide services/sales and refusing transparency is shady and means he's hiding something.
Legit seller would never refuse to provide valid verification for his funds/hardware to the community to make his deals more easy.
Simple logic.

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Trying to bust someone with a scammer accusations or allegations just because he doesn't show his/her wallet address. I mean come on men it's not like the transaction is done or mission accomplished something like that. Make a smooth transaction first before you get your head start with claiming someone with scammer you can make this allegations if you have enough claims that he/she doesn't do her part in the negotiations.

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This guy trying to scam people daily!
I save one yesterday and i received his fake "negative" trust Cheesy

I hope some DT members are still around and tagging people.

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Sales trashing, you should be negged for that. His refusal to show you an address with the said amount is his right. You cannot force someone to do that, this does not amount to a scam. If you are disappointed by his behavior, simply take your business elsewhere, instead of wasting your time and that of others here.

Surely, you must have something better to do?

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Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 27, 2017, 02:46:31 PM

THE gyazos were the proof i dont get what your saying

I check screenshot and you are wrong man, you have any valid proof or just trashing here4trades sales ?

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THE gyazos were the proof i dont get what your saying

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Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 27, 2017, 02:36:37 PM

Quote from: betudontbet on November 27, 2017, 02:24:33 PM

Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 27, 2017, 02:13:44 PM

Quote from: betudontbet on November 27, 2017, 02:04:21 PM

Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:20:26 PM

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Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:01:58 PM

The refusal to show wallet address proves it and the anger hes showing when I call him out on it

There's no anger, there's nothing to show you neither. How would I like to sell you after you do things like this ?
This is not the first time someone like you try to make this, it's remember me to this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20196892 or you maybe just this guy here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammers-ring-they-leave-trust-to-himself-and-scammed-many-people-2454847.

Nope get an Admin to prove those aren't me so people can stop your scamming streak

We know you are the scammer dumper, you think people is fool enough ?

HOW PLEASE EXPLAIN

Because you created a false scam accusation against a member which has done nothing wrong.
I mean I haven't made any trade with the user but there are no signs of scam, however you still spam he's threads without any proof.
If you check posts above in this thread you ya' see no one belive he scams and from the other hand you have no proof.
If there are any real proof of here4trades doing scams I will leave the proper negative trust.
From my point of view you are the one in fault here. Both agreed upon to trade with escrow and you backed up the deal ?
You have to explain youself here .... what he scammed you ? Why should he give you the bitcoin address if trading through escrow ?
why you both don't talk like adults instead of trash talking to each other ? my 2 cents here.

You can check the Logs He started spamming my fourms first And I said we can use escrow like localbitcoin he didnt want to wanted me to get someone onsite

I couldnt get anyone in time because we had 30min left on a blackfriday deal for car mods for my dodge challenger 2017 and I was going to pay him FIRST 10k western union and all I wanted to see is his adress to prove he had the funds WHICH HE COULDNT DO but still expected me to send 10 grand in cash with no verification he even had the money and FOR EXAMPLE this is all I wanted to see just make sure he had the funds https://blockchain.info/address/1SHArkGXkgvz4id6ih7bSuDqTM4gFHV6i

I'm checking posts and you are the one who created scam accusation without proof. So no, you started this.
He haven't asked you to send first but to use escrow, so you'r saying he asked for money first and thats not true.
If you wanted him to give you an example like that, he could even lie to you and show you a random bitcoin address that doesn't belong to him, think about it ... if he wanted to scam you he would show you a random address with more than 1 Bitcoin.
Next time you want to check someone address you should request a signed message with date/hour and something to indentify the owner.
I'm not saying you are scammer neither here4trades, but you have no proof and you still present baseless accusations.

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Quote from: betudontbet on November 27, 2017, 02:24:33 PM

Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 27, 2017, 02:13:44 PM

Quote from: betudontbet on November 27, 2017, 02:04:21 PM

Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:20:26 PM

Quote from: Here4Trades on November 25, 2017, 08:16:08 PM

Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:01:58 PM

The refusal to show wallet address proves it and the anger hes showing when I call him out on it

There's no anger, there's nothing to show you neither. How would I like to sell you after you do things like this ?
This is not the first time someone like you try to make this, it's remember me to this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20196892 or you maybe just this guy here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammers-ring-they-leave-trust-to-himself-and-scammed-many-people-2454847.

Nope get an Admin to prove those aren't me so people can stop your scamming streak

We know you are the scammer dumper, you think people is fool enough ?

HOW PLEASE EXPLAIN

Because you created a false scam accusation against a member which has done nothing wrong.
I mean I haven't made any trade with the user but there are no signs of scam, however you still spam he's threads without any proof.
If you check posts above in this thread you ya' see no one belive he scams and from the other hand you have no proof.
If there are any real proof of here4trades doing scams I will leave the proper negative trust.
From my point of view you are the one in fault here. Both agreed upon to trade with escrow and you backed up the deal ?
You have to explain youself here .... what he scammed you ? Why should he give you the bitcoin address if trading through escrow ?
why you both don't talk like adults instead of trash talking to each other ? my 2 cents here.

You can check the Logs He started spamming my fourms first And I said we can use escrow like localbitcoin he didnt want to wanted me to get someone onsite

I couldnt get anyone in time because we had 30min left on a blackfriday deal for car mods for my dodge challenger 2017 and I was going to pay him FIRST 10k western union and all I wanted to see is his adress to prove he had the funds WHICH HE COULDNT DO but still expected me to send 10 grand in cash with no verification he even had the money and FOR EXAMPLE this is all I wanted to see just make sure he had the funds https://blockchain.info/address/1SHArkGXkgvz4id6ih7bSuDqTM4gFHV6i

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Thanks bet I just sent a message to see if we can fix this stupid issue. Thanks everyone for backing up.

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Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 27, 2017, 02:13:44 PM

Quote from: betudontbet on November 27, 2017, 02:04:21 PM

Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:20:26 PM

Quote from: Here4Trades on November 25, 2017, 08:16:08 PM

Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:01:58 PM

The refusal to show wallet address proves it and the anger hes showing when I call him out on it

There's no anger, there's nothing to show you neither. How would I like to sell you after you do things like this ?
This is not the first time someone like you try to make this, it's remember me to this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20196892 or you maybe just this guy here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammers-ring-they-leave-trust-to-himself-and-scammed-many-people-2454847.

Nope get an Admin to prove those aren't me so people can stop your scamming streak

We know you are the scammer dumper, you think people is fool enough ?

HOW PLEASE EXPLAIN

Because you created a false scam accusation against a member which has done nothing wrong.
I mean I haven't made any trade with the user but there are no signs of scam, however you still spam he's threads without any proof.
If you check posts above in this thread you ya' see no one belive he scams and from the other hand you have no proof.
If there are any real proof of here4trades doing scams I will leave the proper negative trust.
From my point of view you are the one in fault here. Both agreed upon to trade with escrow and you backed up the deal ?
You have to explain youself here .... what he scammed you ? Why should he give you the bitcoin address if trading through escrow ?
why you both don't talk like adults instead of trash talking to each other ? my 2 cents here.

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Quote from: betudontbet on November 27, 2017, 02:04:21 PM

Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:20:26 PM

Quote from: Here4Trades on November 25, 2017, 08:16:08 PM

Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:01:58 PM

The refusal to show wallet address proves it and the anger hes showing when I call him out on it

There's no anger, there's nothing to show you neither. How would I like to sell you after you do things like this ?
This is not the first time someone like you try to make this, it's remember me to this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20196892 or you maybe just this guy here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammers-ring-they-leave-trust-to-himself-and-scammed-many-people-2454847.

Nope get an Admin to prove those aren't me so people can stop your scamming streak

We know you are the scammer dumper, you think people is fool enough ?

HOW PLEASE EXPLAIN

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Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:20:26 PM

Quote from: Here4Trades on November 25, 2017, 08:16:08 PM

Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:01:58 PM

The refusal to show wallet address proves it and the anger hes showing when I call him out on it

There's no anger, there's nothing to show you neither. How would I like to sell you after you do things like this ?
This is not the first time someone like you try to make this, it's remember me to this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20196892 or you maybe just this guy here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammers-ring-they-leave-trust-to-himself-and-scammed-many-people-2454847.

Nope get an Admin to prove those aren't me so people can stop your scamming streak

We know you are the scammer dumper, you think people is fool enough ?

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Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 27, 2017, 01:05:44 PM

Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 07:42:36 PM

I wanted to buy $10,000 btc but He refused to show me his btc wallet address to prove he had the funds then refused to show me and called me a scammer for asking

1st part https://gyazo.com/bdefe5ca2ca221daf0c45b3d8c566995

2nd part https://gyazo.com/907dd8ba3cdd6fefe9e9cd82a9dc2d2e

He was rushing me so he could get the mtc without showing me his wallet address which would only take at max 2 min

Bumping so people remember hes a scammer check his trust and untrusted feedback

Thanks mate, hope you don't scam anyone, hope no one falls.

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Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 07:42:36 PM

I wanted to buy $10,000 btc but He refused to show me his btc wallet address to prove he had the funds then refused to show me and called me a scammer for asking

1st part https://gyazo.com/bdefe5ca2ca221daf0c45b3d8c566995

2nd part https://gyazo.com/907dd8ba3cdd6fefe9e9cd82a9dc2d2e

He was rushing me so he could get the mtc without showing me his wallet address which would only take at max 2 min

Bumping so people remember hes a scammer check his trust and untrusted feedback

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Quote from: Here4Trades on November 25, 2017, 11:34:46 PM

Rich means 100k trading + 50 not 1 btc and a half

well you couldnt even do that sooo...

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Rich means 100k trading + 50 not 1 btc and a half

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Quote from: WishMeBad on November 25, 2017, 08:25:44 PM

Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:20:26 PM

Quote from: Here4Trades on November 25, 2017, 08:16:08 PM

Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:01:58 PM

The refusal to show wallet address proves it and the anger hes showing when I call him out on it

There's no anger, there's nothing to show you neither. How would I like to sell you after you do things like this ?
This is not the first time someone like you try to make this, it's remember me to this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20196892 or you maybe just this guy here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammers-ring-they-leave-trust-to-himself-and-scammed-many-people-2454847.

Nope get an Admin to prove those aren't me so people can stop your scamming streak

I was about to perform an exchange with Here4Trades can you be more specific and show me the scamming streak you talking about ? I'm not looking to be scammed and this forum is plagued of them.

Look at his untrusted feedback and the fact that he said hes not a rich trader and was about to trade me 10 grand really makes you think doesn't it

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Quote from: WishMeBad on November 25, 2017, 08:25:44 PM

Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:20:26 PM

Quote from: Here4Trades on November 25, 2017, 08:16:08 PM

Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:01:58 PM

The refusal to show wallet address proves it and the anger hes showing when I call him out on it

There's no anger, there's nothing to show you neither. How would I like to sell you after you do things like this ?
This is not the first time someone like you try to make this, it's remember me to this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20196892 or you maybe just this guy here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammers-ring-they-leave-trust-to-himself-and-scammed-many-people-2454847.

Nope get an Admin to prove those aren't me so people can stop your scamming streak

I was about to perform an exchange with Here4Trades can you be more specific and show me the scamming streak you talking about ? I'm not looking to be scammed and this forum is plagued of them.

That's what I'been talking about to you man scammers are tryng to trash my sales and I don't know why I mean, I'm not a rich trader or similar, anyway I said to you WishMe that I accept escrow, get back to skype. You'l see he won't answer you because there is no scam acussation against me, only baseless acussations from scammers I exposed, hope you understand.

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Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:20:26 PM

Quote from: Here4Trades on November 25, 2017, 08:16:08 PM

Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:01:58 PM

The refusal to show wallet address proves it and the anger hes showing when I call him out on it

There's no anger, there's nothing to show you neither. How would I like to sell you after you do things like this ?
This is not the first time someone like you try to make this, it's remember me to this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20196892 or you maybe just this guy here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammers-ring-they-leave-trust-to-himself-and-scammed-many-people-2454847.

Nope get an Admin to prove those aren't me so people can stop your scamming streak

I was about to perform an exchange with Here4Trades can you be more specific and show me the scamming streak you talking about ? I'm not looking to be scammed and this forum is plagued of them.

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Quote from: Here4Trades on November 25, 2017, 08:16:08 PM

Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:01:58 PM

The refusal to show wallet address proves it and the anger hes showing when I call him out on it

There's no anger, there's nothing to show you neither. How would I like to sell you after you do things like this ?
This is not the first time someone like you try to make this, it's remember me to this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20196892 or you maybe just this guy here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammers-ring-they-leave-trust-to-himself-and-scammed-many-people-2454847.

Nope get an Admin to prove those aren't me so people can stop your scamming streak

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Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:01:58 PM

The refusal to show wallet address proves it and the anger hes showing when I call him out on it

There's no anger, there's nothing to show you neither. How would I like to sell you after you do things like this ?
This is not the first time someone like you try to make this, it's remember me to this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20196892 or you maybe just this guy here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammers-ring-they-leave-trust-to-himself-and-scammed-many-people-2454847.

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Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 08:01:58 PM

The refusal to show wallet address proves it and the anger hes showing when I call him out on it

Calling scammer and not showing proof?
I believe that you are not a juvenile( doing txn of 10k) to know what a scammer means?

Edit:

I am out of this dumb talk...its useless.

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The refusal to show wallet address proves it and the anger hes showing when I call him out on it

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Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 07:55:00 PM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on November 25, 2017, 07:49:36 PM

Why would you need his ID? Maybe his wallet address and a signed message proving he controls the bitcoin in said address but that's it. Also, if you use an escrow there's no way you're getting scammed

Thats what I meant His wallet address so I could see if he had the funds

it doesn't make any sense, you haven't mean that I could just give you a random address, besides I conduct the trades the way I want, and by the way we both were dealing no one would get scammed.
Get a fucking new account a try harder again.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on November 25, 2017, 07:49:36 PM

Why would you need his ID? Maybe his wallet address and a signed message proving he controls the bitcoin in said address but that's it. Also, if you use an escrow there's no way you're getting scammed

Thats what I meant His wallet address so I could see if he had the funds

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Quote from: pinkman12345 on November 25, 2017, 07:52:15 PM

Read the skype logs.. ans it feels like an attempt to self promote.

Attempt to self promote who ? I've got maybe 3-4 negative feedbacks in my profile which are all fake, have to read the skype logs ? Were I'm self promoting myself ? Please, post if you don't have anything helpful to say and only increases your post count.

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Read the skype logs.. ans it feels like an attempt to self promote.

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Contact @yahoo62278 on telegram for marketing

Why would you need his ID? Maybe his wallet address and a signed message proving he controls the bitcoin in said address but that's it. Also, if you use an escrow there's no way you're getting scammed

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Quote from: Bitcoindumper on November 25, 2017, 07:42:36 PM

I wanted to buy $10,000 btc but He refused to show me his btc wallet id to prove he had the funds then refused to show me and called me a scammer for asking

https://gyazo.com/907dd8ba3cdd6fefe9e9cd82a9dc2d2e

https://gyazo.com/bdefe5ca2ca221daf0c45b3d8c566995

He was rushing me so he could get the mtc without showing me his ID

Showing my btc wallet to him ? we were using escrow.
He has multiple alt accounts and is trying to trash up a my build up reputation, because I've probably trashed he's scam doings, check he's untrusted feedback , he sent first 2.3 btc to a complete navie user (of course these are fake vouches) If you check current Montevideo/Uruguay time at this moment is it on 21:47 PM, and WU store closes in 13 minutes, you said you were in a hurry nor I.

Try harder next time bruh Cool

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I wanted to buy $10,000 btc but He refused to show me his btc wallet address to prove he had the funds then refused to show me and called me a scammer for asking

1st part https://gyazo.com/bdefe5ca2ca221daf0c45b3d8c566995

2nd part https://gyazo.com/907dd8ba3cdd6fefe9e9cd82a9dc2d2e

He was rushing me so he could get the mtc without showing me his wallet address which would only take at max 2 min

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