Topic: Heroin? Cocaine? Weed? (Read 1953 times)

Young people are supposed to test things, but a young person usually has some education they get from their parents which affects all of their actions. A good parent does not protect their kid by asking the government to make rules for them when they are adults.

Also, if you look at the best people in society, they are usually the ones who made the worst mistakes, then learned for themselves. So even if a kid utterly fucks up his or her life, there is a chance they might be one of the few who end up smarter than anybody.

The best medicines are made from the worst poisons, but a person has to be smart.

I think weed is the only "good" drug. It doesn't kill you, but instead has many beficial effects for health. Cocaine, heroin, LSD, crack, speed, etc. are just shit useful to kill people.

Btw never seen a cop so hot in real life...

I'm sure there are drugs in Saudi Arabia, you only have to pay the right price. Where there's money there are bold individuals willing to risk their lives to earn some.
Also, I wouldn't use them as an example of well balanced country. It's a land of patriarchy, where a woman needs a written permit from her husband to get a driving licence and religion stands above the law.

I think that the big part of the drugs problem, is that young people are trying it before they become adults.
The parents are always worried about this, and they demand to not make drugs legal, and they want to protect their kids right?

But forbidding them makes only things worse.
The crime gangs are more and more powerful thanks to the money from drug business, civils have to contact with criminals to get weed or cocaine.
After that, they may go to jail for possesion, which is a very stupid thing.

Why the society needs to pay for someone who is taking drugs?
That is an adult, so he is on his own, we shouldn't punish him for taking something he want to take, even when the law forbids that.

Are you kidding me? Try it in Saudi Arabia to buy drugs. You are there to alcohol is not buy, and even more drugs. There are certainly exceptions, but the number of addicts in Europe and America there.

It is very difficult to do So in order to save the innocent from punishment and prevent not only the use, but also the spread of drugs. Your idea is correct and noble, but how to do it, because in most cases the government itself has a personal relationship to drugs. Rather personally, officials and not the country.

Drugs don't have to be legal, but should not be penalized. This means that although they are illegal, if you're caught smoking a joint you can get a warning, be asked to throw it away, maybe get a ticket, just like you can get for pissing in a park or smoking in a non-smoking area. Making someone go to jail because of harmless smoking, or just posessing a drug that someone put in their pocket is ridiculous and does more harm than good.

Ideally, soft drugs such as weed should have been perfectly legal in any country. But the governments don't want to do that. IMO, weed is much more harmless than tobacco and alcohol. If tobacco can be legal, then why not weed?

Drugs are prone to abuse, but many drugs have very powerful uses too.

Marijuana is a kiddie drug. A lot of people spend their teen years stoned.
but
It is also a useful medicine for cancer patients and many others. The marijuana plant has a lot of value in diseases that are otherwise poorly treated by conventional medicine. Synthetic chemicals used to treat the maladies marijuana is useful for are full of bad side effects.

Opium is very addictive, but it is a powerful pain reliever and has a strong psychological use for its tendency to create dreams that overwhelm the mind without clouding it. Synthetic and heavily modified opiates are a very poor substitute for opium, and if opium were legal the multi billion dollar commercial opiate industry would disappear overnight, along with all the crime it causes.

Peyote has a strong psychological effect that most rare users say is beneficial, just as acid users claim that lsd opens their mind to understanding things, but peyote has traditions that give it something more useful than lab made lsd.

A person should be able to try what they want, as long as they are aware of the risks and dangers. Creating a false world where plants that effect the mind are nonexistent is silly. Some people will go overboard, others will learn, the effects on society are favorable compared to prohibition.

You are a clear example of why drugs should be banned. Why do you need to try them. You cannot find another way to relax? Believe me in our world a lot of good things. Drugs enslave the will of man. You need it?

Drug have been banned in our country but i want to try weed. somebody says weeds efect is very goood

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How many "brutal and fucked up things" happen on a daily basis in your city?

There are nearly a million police in USA... you think there are a million "brutal and fucked up things" that happen daily?

You want a dangerous and stressful job?  Try crab fishing in the Bearing sea...

Cops have it easy... they carry a gun... claim ultimate authority... literally get away with murder... harass people, and steal their money/drugs

I would not suggest so fast, that the crooked police ( the ones who were caught with them ) is addicted to drugs.
They had them, thats true but it doesnt neccesarily means that they were addicts right?

Being a policeman is a really stressful job, no matter what, you see brutal and fucked up thing on everyday basis, and not every human can be mentaly resistant to see brutal crimes usually.
Going to work like this for 10 years can easily affect your mind and mentality, you need to agree that also you risk life doing your job- thats something very important indeed.


I assume that they were unsatisfied with their police salary and they were selling drugs to some people, and later got caught.
You will be amazed how often police sell drugs- the ones who have been seized before obviously, that is a great way for crooked pigs to get more money.
They dont pay for it, they just need to find some guy who has them and simply seize the drugs without writing any kind of a protocol.

Simple? Very simple.
But bear in mind that police are humans, and it is often that are not able to control themselves sometimes, and that is the reason of police brutality.

When people are intaking drugs their attitude, emotions and their way of thinking becomes abnormal thus they may also have the tendency to become criminals. Drug addiction is an expensive vice that needs huge amount of money so you can sustain your addiction and if you spend all your money in your pocket the tendency is that you will do some illegal things to satisfy your addiction. Once you get addicted it is hard to escape and since it is costly you will even do illicit activities just to have money to buy drugs.

I have heard of a few incidents in which the cops have seized drugs from paddlers and then refused to report the incident to the higher-ups. In some incidents, the cache was resold at cutback prices. In a few occasions, it was used by the officers themselves.

The parallel might be that both drugs and abortion are problems created by well intentioned people.

If there had never been any law against or for abortion, the vast majority of people would still see it as a highly unusual act. And when a woman did have an abortion, others would not see it as a religious or political issue but as a girl who had some problems and the focus would be on understanding why she wanted to kill her child, then solving the problem.

If there had never been any drug laws then there would not be a massive number of synthetic pseudo opiates and complex molecules invented in drug labs. A person who has free access to a natural drug, e.g. marijuana, opium, mushrooms etc, does not choose synthetic versions for the simple reason that synthetic versions are not as pleasant. And drug crime would be limited to dui, no need for addicts to steal to support the cartels so minimal robbery. Potheads and opium addicts are much mellower than money addicts.

I think the drug would not be destroyed because of its official deals with the right dose to be used for the need of his.

I just read the article and it was not really interesting because fellow police officers the law maker or the law protectors just broke the law by selling drug A to people i mean they are the one's who protect and arrest drug sellers but they are the ones who sell it you can't really tell who's the criminal in this world of ours and still they got bail this is one freaky world we lived in >.<

Under a legalisation scheme, these guys would no longer be criminals. Hence the simply beauty of drug law reform. Drug law, however, is too profitable to let go for Big Prison.

Also, alcohol is one of the most damaging drugs that has been known to society (the contemporary opium epidemic will be the one to go down in history however, mark my words). Do you feel alcohol should be legal?

I agree that not all drugs should be legal, but we would do well to decriminalize, at least, some of the less addictive, mostly natural substances. If you can buy a quadruple expresso, you should be able to buy pot/fungi.

If your children were having it (using once, left behind by someone, all scenarios were they could be arrested), how long should they be jailed? Or maybe executing them is the best solution? I am curious to know your opinions if it concerned your own chilld, and please all parents do their best to protect their children from most addictive behaviors and independandly of all efforts all drug users were kids once.

One example, in iran if your parents are parts of the ruling gang, no problem. Or if jeff sessions has relative, i bet you they get nothing and the eventual press or media is forced to censor.



Thank you for this post. Fundamentally it's a liberty, freedom and ownership issue. As you said next sugar (btw very addictive) salt or grease. Who does your body belongs to? In some country alcohol is illegal... another sad problem is certain type of health drug that are allowed in certain country (state) and illegal in other.

Most forget that liverty start where it doesnt reduce the one of others... personnally it's a total lack of condifence and fear that drive those prohibitionnists (for the honnest ones) the others are after power/money (jail, lawyer, courts industries) or have societal or demographic objectives (most us jails are filled with blacks for so called illegal natural substances).

But to get back to your post, sadly socialized healthcare may degenerate in this, forced to do sports, not eating more of than x amounts, backed by digital surveillance (wc analysis, obligations to get tested, etc).

 Another parallel can be made with abortion.

You forget that among drug users, a very large number of criminals. To meet the ever growing amount of drugs they need they go on the offense. You don't think about the fact that they themselves can become a victim of drug addict, and your children can become addicts? I'm against it. Any talk about legalization of drugs needs to be stopped.

Don't you think that it's a private matter if he wants to be dependent on something or not? What if someone watched your every step and told you that you can't eat sugar, drink beer, stay awake all night, because all these things are bad for you? These are our lives and our choices and as long as we aren't harming anyone we should be allowed to do what we like.
As for smoking, you might regret it but some other people may find it a part of their lives.

It is not possible to ban them with 100% efficiency. Even in countries such as Singapore and Saudi Arabia, where drug usage carries capital sentence, the drugs are easily available. So the best option, IMO is to legalize them.

I see some misconceptions here.

Do you think that legally available drugs will cause more addiction? Wrong! On the contrary. It should decrease drug consumption.
Because it will eliminate both bad mixed drugs created specially to induce addiction and erase the forbidden fruit effect.
With legal drugs there won't be any drug dealers around because being a dealer won't be a lucrative job anymore! War with crime will be won!
We could argue that severe alcohol addiction can ruin a life in the same way as drugs can, yet alcohol is perfectly legal.

Complete legalisation of drugs is actually an amazing idea. I see it as a natural selection. Those who are stupid enough to do drugs and kill themselves will leave us who don't, therefore more junkies= less junkies.

I'm not only against hard drugs but I am against even the soft drugs such as marijuana. Why would a person do a dependent? All my life I regret that started to smoke and now can't leave. And you want to legalize drugs. Bullshit!

not need heroin and cocaine
i hope can gone in the wold cocaine and heroin

I am against the legalization of drugs. The addict should be forced treatment, and drug dealers should be in prison. And don't just sit and work and to Finance the rehabilitation of drug addicts. If re-caught for drug trafficking and possible death penalty.

It's not a question of 'whether drugs should be illegal', it's a question of 'why is it anybody's business whether somebody uses drugs.

It is not really "a disease", more an appetite that extracts a price.

When you are a baby your parents can say "do not put your hand on the fire" and "do not swallow that detergent". But once you are an adult, if you want to keep learning, you have to be responsible to nature for your own decisions, not responsible to government for the opinions of government employees. I personally am not a drug user, and do not care for most 'illegal' drugs, with the exception of raw opium which I like a lot. But it is not my business what somebody else likes, nor why they like it, as long as they don't deliberately force their opinions on me.

Decriminalised at least. And I'd be very surprised if someone's mother switched from Vicodin to lying in her own faeces injecting heroin. They have that legit sheen to them.

The prime example is Elvis who was rabidly anti drugs yet took more than anyone, but it was OK because those ones were legal.

Then you are living in a lie manufactured by government and repeated by sheep called society.
Do you honestly think that legalization of drugs would suddenly create more addicts? On the contrary.

There were times when you could buy all kinds of poison, completely legal in your local drug store (late 19th century) but I didn't hear about causes of mass poisoning.
People are not so stupid as government and authorities are trying to tell us. War vs. drugs is one big lie, it is something to sink tax money into, nothing more.

Legalise some drugs for sale BUT never lock anyone up for taking any drug ..

Portugal legalised taking drugs.. No jail.
Crime gone down people taking drugs gone down..WHY..Think about it..?

No drug pushers ..
Just think if a shop sells it no street dealers to be pushing it on the street YOUTH .

GO ON   GO ON   GO ON   have these drugs says the big kid to the small kid ..
PUSHERS ..Shops no more pushers..

Free choice to take drugs NOT FORCED CHOICE..

How forced choice?..

You are young and to fit in you are pushed to take or smoke these drugs to fit in..


The young get to know more about drugs if legal..
Not every drinks or smokes  ..Smoking most young don't smoke anymore..LEGAL


It seems us humans if we are told not to do something we do it more
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Maybe it's the desire humans have to always want to be free

I'm not sure "all" drugs should be legalized

There are already too many people hooked on opiates like vicodin, oxycontin, morphine... which leads to heroin once their prescription runs out... also bad

Some are too addictive and expensive, which leads to theft, armed robbery, embezzlement, etc

Many drugs do serious harm or kill the user (and anyone who inhales second hand smoke/chemicals, like children)


Cannabis is a different subject... cannabis is less toxic than cigarettes or alcohol... cannabis kills fewer people than cigarettes or alcohol... cannabis cures/treats at least a dozen serious medical ailments (and counting)...

One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?

You posted a pic of her that isn't too flattering.. How about a nice pic like this one? huh?

As for the retards saying that drugs should be kept illegal are probably just drug dealers themselves and are afraid of losing their income. The drug war has been a massive failure all over the world. Look at Mexico. Because drugs are illegal there the gangs make hundreds of millions of dollars and are investing that money into their own private armies. Mexico is run by criminals and nothing can be done about that anymore. The Philippines is murdering its own citizens (drug users!) meanwhile we hear that police chiefs are the drug kingpins ... WTF. They only way to fix this problem is to legalize all drugs, regulate and tax them.

Heroin? Cocaine? Weed?
What's with the question? Why not adrenaline?
Actually, why do you need to alter your mind anyway?
Is your life so boring, and you so plain that you cannot find an interesting activity for yourself?
Why can't you live a stable, healthy life?
Why not have sex? It's free and it gets you together to another human being.

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Legalization of drugs should happen and will eventually happen. Do you think an addict should be imprisoned if they find the source of his addiction in his possession? Why don't they arrest drunkards then for carrying a bottle of vodka? Addiction is a sickness and addicts should be offered help not punished. Also, if someone wants to waste himself in his home it's his choice and he should have the right to do so.

what a shame that police officers has dealing with drugs and apparently the victims of drugs not only dominated by civilian anymore indeed drugs has become the most issue in the world besides middle east war and in my country also i have seen several times the police officers has arrested because dealing with drugs

Making it legalize and regulate them would really cause to much more trouble on this world and its not really right to exclude it and I would rather choose to stick on prohibiting it rather than on legalizing it because i cant imagine a society on which drugs are legal.

I am against the legalization of drugs. More than that I don't agree with you that it is impossible to defeat drugs. In order to buy drugs addicts should know where you can buy them. Once they know that might know and the police. The power just didn't really want to deal with this problem.

The government should just accept the fact that the drugs can't be eliminated. As long as the demand exists, the people will find a way to secure them. The only viable option is to legalize and regulate them.

I just read the article and this hot babe is one of the cops dealing in drugs what a shocker.

Maybe they don't use their merchandise for maximum profit?

Haha, the Daily Mail indicates that two cops were indicted but they only posted pictures of the hot bird. That's funny.

With her good looks intact it's probably not heroin.

Just have your cash out.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4381206/Two-police-officers-arrested-suspicion-dealing-drugs.html