Topic: Hey looking for volunteers to help me test my dice bot (Read 263 times)

Im not calling it 50/50 im calling it close to 50/50 (which is big difference), you can workaround those small edges mathematically/statistically, which what im doing with my bot, thats it, anyway i found much more valuable feedback in other community and betatest goes to the end. So i think ill not check this thread anymore, if want to reach me - im me.

Cheers

If you mean that in dice the house edge is usually only one percent and that's why it can be called 50/50, I  agree with you then. But remember that the house still has an advantage and in the long run it will prevail. It's not like many gamblers think. It will not necessarily happen within several thousands of rolls, but within several billions it will happen surely. And, again, it's not like many gamblers think: that you will lose all your money then. You will lose the house edge to the house. That's what most likely will happen in several billions of rolls.

I believe you now understand the reasons for my curiosity and constant engagement with you here.  As you have said, it would be nice you run the bot beta test yourself and post your results here and I urge you to post the real and genuine result here not altered one so that anybody who want to test run the bit could see for themselves before attempting it do that if anything happens, you will be on the safe side  protecting your reputation here.

let's imagine that you wanted to get people to test your bot in the real world, to be more specific in your city, in a place where everyone knows your face and you know that they are people who, if you deceive them, the consequences would be very serious. Seriously, how would you go about winning them over to the point where they test your bot? One thing is for sure, people are driven by money, but with so many scammers, people first want to see proof and ask themselves a lot of questions before putting money in. In this case, in the real world, people in your city would ask you what exactly they would gain when they tested your bot and why would they need to test your bot? Finding money is not easy, nowadays people already have money to pay bills, so taking that money and wasting it is difficult.

So they will probably ask you questions like if they put x value on your bot, how much money will they earn per day? For example, someone puts in $200 and runs your bot all day, how much money exactly will that person earn? And could you guarantee that these people would make money every day using your bot? and after you answer these questions, people who put money into your bot would charge you if your bot failed. Since people in the real world know our faces and life history, that's why many people who appear here with proposals like these never ask people in the real world to test them and use them. because they fear the consequences

So I ask you: if a person puts in $200 and runs your bot all day, how much profit will that person make?

Yeah i already understood that i need to find some gambling influencers, or become one myself, thanks for a good word though

I havent starting selling it so dont know the price yet, but it could be percent of profit - e.g. you deposit 1$ bot lets you earn 5$ + rakeback. Reasons, oh well, for money of course. We all know that story that not golddiggers earned most money but people selling the equipment. And i do plan to run .this bot for my own profits, but not on stake, because you have very low rakeback and on those platforms i run of course ill not sell it to anyone, because it's just a matter of time when it stops working when multiple people starts using it.

Overall i got the idea of this forum, representatives of gambling platforms trying to proof im a scammer, but i definitely know some gamblers this will read it too, so - lets keep thread as it is ill move to the discord with my testing, will post servername when its created.

Whenever I see these types of proposals I keep asking myself the same question: why would a person who has a method, a bot, a strategy that guarantees that they will make money with gambling sell this method, would they need money from other people?

let's imagine that you have 200$ and you have tested your bot, the test went very well, so you take that 200$ and put it in your bot, and with that you make a profit, you continue using your bot and in a month you will already you would have much more than $200, in the following month you would also have much more profit because you would only have to take all the money you earned and put it into the following month, that way in a few months you would have a lot of money and you wouldn't need other people's money. So I'm honestly wondering why you came to this forum to make this proposal when you could remain silent and you would be making money without anyone knowing about your bot. Of course I'm assuming casinos allow people to use bots

but since you came to this forum and are talking about people testing your bot and then selling your bot, then everything becomes very suspicious. For example, why don't you show how many people have already tested your bot and how much they have already earned? Because I believe you have friends who could ask them to test your bot, I'm also wondering why you don't make money with this bot instead of thinking about selling it and then running the risk of someone copying your bot. If there's one thing I learned in this cryptocurrency market, it's that when a person discovers something that allows them to make money

This person will not be publicizing their method and will not be here on the forum needing other people's money. this person will stay far away from earning money and living his life, but when a person creates a scheme or thing that he himself knows will not give constant profit, then this person will sell that thing to make money, only by selling this bot of yours and that You would make money, if you depended on this bot without needing other people's money, and then your entire bankroll would go bankrupt. I'm curious to know what the price of your bot is if you sell it?

You have done well in making your one year project turned a successful one to this stage, I must applaud you for that efforts over the year, if what you have developed happens to meet up with the people's choice and taste, then know that it's going to receive more attempts in trying to use the software bot you ha e developed, there are many that may be ready to rest on this and make review on how they see it's functionality, am also looking forward to see that this dice bot works perfectly as you have targeted on it.

Yeah i got your point, but in this case its simple to finish testing on my own and to release freemium, and post the script "to use on your risk" as everybody does. I think ill do that way, just will keep posting test results here to have some track record. Hopefully some tester will join me on the way until ill conclude my testing.

I was also wondering the same thing as well which made put up that question to you and I believe you now understand why I was very much curious about this whole thing that you could not guarantee anything about the testers commitment to running a beta test on your bot. From what you have replied me then it means that there is every tendencies that the testers might get bursted while test running the bot with their various accounts.
I think you should stand by your words as you have promised if you find any beta tester for your bot. Or possibly, you should State the rewards for beta tester if in the case an account is bursted in the process, they should be compensated and am escrow should be involved in this.

Thats very true, and to keep communication straightforward i am sure this will happen, and users will stop paying me for bot to run it, i have few mesures in mind, but probably it will just delay reaction from gambling site. But answer basically is - to profit while i can then move along.

Regarding marketing strategy thats just peak of the iceberg you see, theres separate person doing that after test results will be concluded. This spiky communication of mine is just to let everybody know that its take it or leave it at this stage, no space for bartering for exclusive conditions.

And regarding your question its very valid one, user is safe as sandbox is safe - eg if stake wouldnt prevent my bot from opening transfer window and transfer money withough additional auth factor, obvioustly user would be in danger, but for as far as i am aware - sandbox is really safe. What i could think of - to imporsonate as a user by intercepting its session token, but what it would give to me - really cannot figure out any way to monetize that in my favor. I guess i cannot prove its 100% safe just by words, it would require independant auditing. And for warranty would i give it, well, if statistics ill accumulate will show thats user got busted, i could promise to compensate half of it i guess. But thats again just a promise based on trust.

If ever your method will be successful, how can you guarantee that the casino will not prohibit the use of that strategy if it can give high chance of profit. This is same scenario on card counting method to Blackjack that is not allowed even though the method is just pure math.

No casino will allow user to consistently drain their funds to a method that proven consistent profit in long term. This kind of test might be useless not only that it’s well known no strategy works on dice game but also casino will not allow this in the future.

Okay that is nice. I was thinking you could be able to look into this properly to see how and where I am driving to either but it seems you are hell bent on doing it that way. Anyways that is not an issue but do you not think that putting up a price could attract good reviewers to your beta testing?  Though the test amount you have stated is quite okay and people can do that for you and lot complain about anything.

I was also curious to ask you this question if after activating this bot to one's account and  possibly a bug or the bot malfunctions and leads to possible account breach or something else happens that affects the testers account,what would you do to compensate  the tester?

Well for people im looking to participate in my bot testing losing 200 TRX shouldnt hurt, if it hurts, you shouldnt participate. And regarding my communication strategy its straightforward, i get it - you dont like it, well i cannot change that, i just need volunteers who is ready to risk and in case of success gets reward measurable in $, thats it. Plain and simple. Point is that wo volunteers it will take longer, but i still will get it tested by myself, so im not going to make extra efforts to drag people into this beta testing promising something extra as a reward.

Maybe it will sound arrogantly, but its really what i do think - i have best bot in the market, why it shouldnt be attractive in a way i put it? Because my communication style, well maybe, but i am who i am

Thats why im running tests to find this out, so far so good (few minutes old update):

http://94.237.89.155:3000/stake4.png

It is okay  if you say so but 200 trx is not small either. However you are opting for risk takers which is always a call for service but where I don't seem to get you clearly is that this " but reward if it works is also quite generous" you have said pertaining volunteers is not commendable. You should know that in the course of review or test running of a product, there must be both positive and negative report which is very important for every  developer to note because that would guide them in improving the product they have worked on so you should not have said so but rather look for other ways or means to say thank you instead of saying that.

Forget about strategies in dice games and in casinos in general. There are no systems or bots that can beat any house game even with an RTP of 99%.

Its impossible to be long term profitable by using those bots they provide, as i mentioned ive worked on this over a year and investigated this opportunity. On stake its not prohibited to use you own bots, users freely discussing this on reddit for example https://www.reddit.com/r/Stake/comments/138zmv9/are_there_stakecom_dice_bots/

I’m not using dice bot anymore especially from the 3rd party apps since most of the dice games has their own automated betting.

Is the casino still allows 3rd party software like bot to run on their website. Some casino ToS stated a general description about the prohibition of software to increase the chance of winning. If ever the usage of this bot will help me to win then I’m afraid that it might use it against my profit.

I believe this is still allowed on dice casino but I’m not sure if full casino is still ok with this.

Thats why i call it close to 50/50. To take an example, roulette is not close, dice is close, limbo is close, but for example mines since it has 25 squares cannot be divided in the way to become close.

Hope it explains

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I have a feeling that online dice is not something that can be called "50/50". We all know that we can set our win chance to 0.01%, and in that case the house would be at 99.99% to win.



So, that's not exactly 50/50, eh? The multiplier you get if you nevertheless hit the cunt is another story. But my point is, we can't call online dice "50/50".

Hey yes, sure im looking for risk takers, but reward if it works is also quite generous - high risk high reward. And no you dont need 200$ 200 of any currency is enough, like TRX for example.

And y i plan to grow trust in this bot, which is not easy and takes a lot of time, thats why i ask betatesters to post screenshots as a first step in this process, later will release some video clips and will take other similar steps.

It is nice for you to have taken your time to develop such a bot. I believe many would like it as it is a bot that can be programmed without any supervision or inspection for accuracy. I have taken my time to read through your post and I must really commend you for your innovation. You see this offer is more of a review on your bot which is likely very risky because no one would want to jeopardise with their already well established account with such a bot that has not been proven otherwise. I believe you know that running such a bot would need an established account for accuracy and maybe for the casino to not be able to detect the bot used by the customer.

Nevertheless, you talked about testers funding the account with a minimum of 200 buck for a bot not sure of by the testers. I believe you know that nobody would want to take such a risk for something that has not been proven but rather the sole originator of the innovation should be In position to fund the account for such test so as to be able get a good result from the test.  If you are sceptical about the funding aspect of it, you can hire the service of an escrow or a reputable manager here to help you organise your dice bot.

Ive spent a year creating stable dice autobetting(by using bot) strategy, which can run on virtually any platform having dice or anything close to 50/50, but first im stabilizing it on stake. I think i finally managed it and thats how it looks like:

~14 hours ago:
http://94.237.89.155:3000/stake1.png

5 hours ago (note the stoploss action from the bot):
http://94.237.89.155:3000/stake2.png

recently (bit adjusted parameters towards higher profitability):
http://94.237.89.155:3000/stake3.png

Now im thinking to leave it to run alone for atleast few days and will post shots here. Bot is capable to exit with relevantly small loses from unfavorable situations (which happens really rarely btw) so im quite sure it will not bust during those days. And including rakeback i expect it to be profitable. But this statement needs verification, so im verifying myself, on two accounts simultaneously, who else would like to join? You dont need big investment, bot can run any currency and 200 bankroll should be enough, so for example you can test it by using 200 TRX.

From beta testers i expect to post screenshots to this thread and in case bot will be successful ill keep the bot for them to use for free in this form they have received it (yeah you guessed right - i plan to sell it after the testing)

I dont think many people will trust me on this and will join the program, but if it will exceed 5 ill cherry pick five of them, sorry, dont want too much drag, because i need to kickoff and support each of them.

So whos in? IM me if you interested.