Topic: Hezbollah exploding pagers / Was it a false fflag??? (Read 389 times)

All countries engage in deceptions that have ends which are not immediately clear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8FDPU-tDBU

Britain has been trying to create a global Islamic front for decades with the final goal being to create a new rival to Chinese expansion, especially in resource rich Africa.

This strategy includes ending the state of Israel in its current form, something that will be complete soon.

Unfortunately for the British, they have been making a lot of careless mistakes as this part of their plan nears fruition, and that will become more obvious to more people soon.

The biggest problem of all in this is the US Government. They continue to arm and Finance the terrorism by Israel. Honestly, what do they have to lose by pulling off the plug, sanction and condemn Israel for the heinous acts?
Nothing! This world is bigger than Israel and each passing day, the nations are waking up and realizing that all the so-called world peace keeping organizations such as the United Nations are nothing but just useless. Imagine if the rest of the nations decide to boycott the UN and all the stupid sanctions and decide to create their own organizations. It will be game over for the US ad some allies.

In fact it is an unequal war which is killing innocent people and most of the world does not support it. Over a year of Israeli attacks in Palestine have killed around 45k innocent Palestinians, most of them children and women. Both countries have the right to self-defence but no country supports invading another country's territory, it is a direct attack on that country's sovereignty and every country should have the right to sovereignty. Since the attack on Palestine, Lebanon's Hezbollah has been firing rockets into Israel on several time, causing some damage. Recently, Israel carried out counter-air strikes in Lebanon and so far the number of dead has exceeded 600 and injured more than 400 which is very alarming and cruel. At the same time, Israeli army chief Harji Halevi told troops to prepare for a possible ground operation in Lebanon. Iran, on the other hand, has warned that it will increase support for Lebanon.

I can’t say I have enough knowledge of the situation to start insinuating that the attack was a false flag. What I will say is that if you were going to put on a false flag attack, blowing the testicles off of your own supporters seems like a pretty harsh and committed way of going about it. Probably would be my last choice of action.

I have not seen a single evidence that suggests that. In fact I've only seen the exact opposite, meaning all available intelligence suggests that those silly boys in M.I.Whatever were already celebrating delusionally thinking Palestine is already disappeared and the Resistance is dead. It is crystal clear from their intelligence reports on Sinwar and the Resistance in general.
They were the most surprised on October 7 as well when the fantastic operation Al-Aqsa Hurricane took place with a tremendous success. This is exactly why that Indian boy Sunak was one of the first who were flown to occupied Palestine to answer to the Zionist and to assure them of London's support. This is also why British military has sustained the second most number of casualties/damage among the foreign participants in the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

The plans for operation Al-Aqsa Hurricane (Storm) started back in 2020 when Trump signed the death warrant of Israel and called it the Abraham Accords. Then on 2023 the Zionists put the last nail in their own coffin with their silly Arab-Med corridor that would have ended Gaza and Palestine.
Palestinians had no other choice but to put themselves back on the map and they did it fantastically on October 7.

Maybe some day I post some intelligence in this forum regarding this operation. For now lets just say the initial plans for Operation Al-Aqsa Hurricane in the form we saw, was locked in by the end of 2022.

On the first day when pagers were exploding one of the early reports listed 13 deaths including one doctor and two or three children far too young to be employees of anything.

Again, the U.S. and Israeli governments are subordinate in policy and strategy to Britain due to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes

A fair amount of evidence seems to point to Oct7 and certain related acts as having originated with London.

Looks like some people do not know what a true definition of terrorist is, especially when they think they are supporting the right side. In the view of the innocent victims of the recent attacks by the Israeli soldiers, they are also seen as Terrorists. In fact, any sane person who does not like war knows that what the Israeli Army has unleashed on Gaza and Lebanon is nothing but terror.

I sincerely hope that these terrorists will be crushed. Israel is doing everything right. All the troubles are from Islam and their offspring.

Hezbollah is running out already, they seem to have requested a truce. Weak freaks.

You can't make this guess just because Hezbollah is part of Lebanon. It also doesn't justify the terrorist attack that US regime carried out with the help of Zionists.

Hezbollah is lots of service groups including military, social services, medical, and other. Some of the "hezbollah" people who got blown up were doctors, ambulance drivers/medics, social welfare workers etc.

That operation would not have been approved by a competent high level Israeli. Hence the false flag question.

Israel does have many incompetent people in high positions, but there are small things that suggest a possible UK connection to several recent "israeli' misdeeds, including the pager terrorism.

The UK will benefit strategically in a few months when Israel has been 'downsized'.

Do you expect Israel to claim responsibility for such a terrorist act? The plan was executed without consideration of the risk it posed to civilians. Most of these explosions happened in public places and at home, and innocent women and children became victims. Israel has a history of keeping silent after carrying out such attacks. The country's spokesman has the tradition of neither declining nor accepting that they are behind an attack.

The conflict is gradually escalating to a full-blown war. Isreal believes that have weakened Hezbollah so that might want to replicate what they did in Gaza. But they might be in for a big surprise.

The U.S., like Israel, relies on the "five eyes" intelligence infrastructure which is controlled by Britain.

This gives UK strategists tremendous power to influence every aspect of those governments.

I was really confused about seeing on the news that pagers where exploding, first I didn't want to believe it but when I saw videos that where uploaded on the internet of different occasions of explosions involving individuals that carried the pagers in their pockets and in their handbags, before I actually believed it.

Literally everybody is pointing fingers at Israel but I haven't seen any news where Israel have come forward to claim that they are the ones responsible for this Hezbollah attack. We know that Israel has existing  crisis with this people, but it has not been ascertain that the explosion of gadgets was done by them. However it is of great importance to Note that if not for this explosions, we wouldn't have known that Hezbollah are carrying and walking around with undercover gadgets for communication for which purpose we don't know.

Possibilities are endless here, all we can do is speculate & whatever we conclude is likely to be wrong. That probably won’t stop us though. All I can say with full commitment is that I pray for any innocent people that were affected by this event.

I have read about this weird situation in the middle east, and I can only say it is very disturbing to what extent the superpowers of the planet have access to electronic data and the capacities they seem to have over the behavior of our hardware.
If I had any guess, I would say this is about Israel or the United States seeking for a further escalation in the chaos actually going on in the middle east, seeking for Lebanon and Iran to get more involved in the conflict.
Those who are more into this kind of situation would even dare to say Israel is trying to put together what they call the "Greater Israel", and in order to pursue such a thing, they would need more war and get the United States to get more involved with the funding and providing more weaponry to Tel Aviv.

Anyways, it is always the worst part when it is the innocent and the non-soldiers who get wounded...

You need to have friends, not everyone is given this, but you need to!

More fake crap.
If real you would not be able to fly with phone or any such device.

That is unlikely.

England doesn't have the capability or resources to carry out a terrorist attack of this scale. They are of course participating in the ongoing genocide in Palestine and the terrorist attacks with their American coalition, but that is just participation.

There is also overwhelming evidence that shows the US regime was behind it. From the fact that they have done this before in Iraq all the way to the USAF electronic warfare planes being present in the region and used for this terrorist attack https://www.talkimg.com/image/gM5kP
And of course the fact that the US regime pulled out some pagers days before they carried out the attack https://www.talkimg.com/image/gXQGg

Actually it is Britain not the U.S. / Britain has been trying to create an Islamic superstate to contain China since the 1990s. All of the U.S.adventures in Afgh, Iraq, Africa etc were Britain using the U.S. for its strategy.

It is partly for internal use to give Israelis a false sense of power, but the bigger effect is external, and against Israel's interests.


Agree that Israel is a terrorist state preying on the indigenous locals, same as China, U.S., Aus etc.

But the question here is whether Israel actually carried out this attack.

Most people believe Israel contrived Oct7 to have an excuse to expel Pals.

What many people do not know is that Israel's security apparatus, including mossad, are basically run by Britain. Mossad has a nominal Israeli leader but all of its big actions and decisions are based on interpreted signals and other data fed carefully by the UK.


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Nice movie grade terrorism in style. Israel and Mossad excels in conducting highly sophisticated attacks as such.
A study shows one of the two batteries on the device was replaced with identical looking explosive during shipping.
Israel is openly a terrorist state and I do still condemn terrorism. But the pager attack is way better on moral level than bombing civilians.

This terrorist attack is carried out by United States not Israel since only US has this kind of capability and also has a history of carrying out this type of attack (in Iraq many years ago).

As for benefit, it is for an internal use otherwise it is not going to change anything on the ground. If you check the Hebrew media of the terrorist organization, they are selling this to the occupiers as a big win trying to cover up all their losses in Gaza and Northern border with Lebanon. The terrorists needed this specially after they were hit with a hypersonic missile: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5500581

It is a continuation of the attack.

If this kind of attack had occurred during heavy ground fighting it might have benefited Israel, but the timing is not beneficial to Israel.

Very possible this is more British antics, and the Brits know Israelis will stumble blindly to take  credit for anything that follows the 'all powerful mossad' delusion.

Also reminiscent of pre oct7 when Israelis were focused on a few 'hostile' tents in the north, only to get blindsided from the south. So maybe North Africa will heat up now and Egypt start to turn its guns East.


Wow.

It is baffling how Israel could imagine this will help them.

That's why the question "Is it a false flag". There is not any obvious scenario where this benefits Israel.

However it does strengthen the future Arab/Muslim catharsis the UK is trying to bring about after Israel is gone.

Psyop video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8FDPU-tDBU

 Israel has only a few months left.


1) Yeah, and Israelis involved in spyware murders in Mexico https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/jul/18/revealed-murdered-journalist-number-selected-mexico-nso-client-cecilio-pineda-birto and elsewhere need to be held accountable.

But it looks like somebody approached Israelis to get them to start spyware businesses, just so they could be exposed, taking heat off the 'five eyes' from Snowden leaks.

Why so heavy in Latin America? The U.S. / UK has been desperately fighting indigenous interests in Latin America for decades. Whether anti drug, anti terror, anti communist, the targets are always indigenous, never white. Why would Israel walk into that swamp except under pressure from U.S./UK.

2) Egypt is fully on board. They are waiting for the right moment, probably caused by something in Libya.

3) Even an ounce of the powder in firecrackers can cause great damage, not a high military explosive. Any explosive produces more oxygen than it needs, so the power is related to how compacted it is. Just like with a shaped charge you can put a cone under explosive and weight on the other side and it will create damage out of proportion.

4) In twenty years the truth will come out that the brits who largely run mossad arranged it, and then Israelis though it made them look slick so they took the credit.


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And many countries bought it. Some even used used this "Pegasus" software to spy on their political opponents.


There have been reports that the pagers that exploded were part of a batch of newly-purchased devices from a Taiwanese manufacturer. The manufacturing company, in turn, is reported to have said that this batch of devices had been made by a European distributor.

Nobody wants to take the blame We didn't make these, it was some Europeans!

It is worth knowing that the Resistance didn't start fighting the technologically superior (when it comes to communication and monitoring) Israeli terrorists yesterday. They've been fighting them for over 40 years now. They know the risks involved in using any kind of electronic devices. This is exactly why they've been installing land lines across southern Lebanon, a separated and isolated network that is what they use for their communication. It is not possible to hack into that or use it as a weapon like this.

This is also why from the 4000 injuries only a handful are a member of the Resistance aka Hezbollah and the rest are all civilians.

Your title is wrong as well.
This is not "Hezbollah pagers" exploding. This is a wide variety of civilian electronic devices that have been blowing up. It includes:
1. Pagers https://www.talkimg.com/image/gH8ya
2. Laptops (with Lithium-ion battery)
3. Smart phones (specifically iPhones) https://www.talkimg.com/image/gHKKo
4. Radios used by police department, emergency services, etc. https://www.talkimg.com/image/gHO71
5. Time attendance device https://www.talkimg.com/image/gHpHT
6. Even electric bikes https://www.talkimg.com/image/gHDIl
7. Solar panels

Not sure if it is misreporting or not but I read about a second attack involving hand held radios. Hard to tell if this is the same pager attack just picked up by a news outlet with some language barriers or if a new attack just happened hours ago. The story I just saw did report them as walkie talkie like radios and not pagers. Maybe this attack isn’t done yet?

One of the problems is that Sky News, which often is used by the British government to push false narratives, was the first to say that there was proof Israel was behind it, quoting anonymous sources. Even before any Israelis had spoken publicly.

What makes it hard to find the truth is that most Israelis, when they heard the news thought "The rest of the world is so amazed by out exploits". The truth is that most of the rest of the world is thinking "How much longer do we have to pretend to respect those bandits?". Like all of the recent anti Israel projects, Israelis have been tricked into imagining it helps them.


"Because they only receive messages over radio frequencies, pagers cannot be traced or tracked, just like the household radio cannot be tracked. A mobile phone’s location can be tracked because, apart from receiving signals, it also sends out signals. Any system meant to detect these signals can locate where they are coming from. This is the precise reason why an organisation like Hezbollah had been using these instruments. Another reason is the fact radio waves are more ubiquitous than mobile networks. They are available even in areas where mobile networks are not. Because of their limited functionality, pagers can sustain for months on a single battery, which is again a big advantage in remote areas where power supply is a problem. Also, in an army-like organisation that Hezbollah is, one-way instruction, addressed to the group as a whole, is often adequate communication."

https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-sci-tech/lebanon-attacks-pagers-9574627/


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this is unbelievable, something you see in a movie....

Pagers exploding. I'm confused! I regard a pager as an archaic messaging device
which belongs in the same museum as the Fax machine.

I understand them to be a small device with a small screen with a small  battery,
how can it explode?

This scenario is definitely smelly and has a smell of Israel off it for sure.

Investigations are still ongoing, but from the current situation, all fingers point at Israel. It is possible they got help from her allies to carry out this terrorist act on civilians. However, it is obvious that there was an infiltration of the supply chain of these pagers. Israelis are the main suspects because they have threatened Lebanon and are well-known for such attacks.

We cannot determine for now if it is an attempt by warmongers to destabilise the region for selfish interest because such an operation will be kept secret. There has been no response from the government of Israel about the attack, claiming or denying their involvement. For now, the Lebanese government will have to do a thorough investigation because there might be more attacks since it seems that the enemy has infiltrated some key areas of Lebanon.

Thousands of Hezbollah people injured by exploding pagers

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/dozens-hezbollah-members-wounded-lebanon-when-pagers-exploded-sources-witnesses-2024-09-17/

Obviously another example of Israeli mischief.

Or was it?

In 2013 Snowden released documents showing that the 'five eyes" had access to virtually all electronic traffic.

Shortly afterwards examples of intrusive spying on EU parliamentarians was a scandal that painted Britain and the 'five eyes' in a bad light... then more scandals...and more...

Then around 2015 several Israelis began selling intrusive spyware.

What would motivate Israelis to jump head first into a scandal plagued field right after Snowden's leaks? Those Israeli companies have been burned again and again, painting Israelis as a modern gestapo, and taking the heat off Britain and the 'five eyes'.

Now, if you mention spyware or intrusive surveillance, most people think of Israel's various spyware firms started right after Snowden exposed the five eyes.

~Fast forward to today~

The pager attack is not going to help Israel. It will galvanize Lebanese against whoever they think did it.

Strangely, just one day ago a new series of sanctions was initiated against another Israeli led spyware.

https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2581

Recently the UK appears to have engaged in a series of what look like false flags, Crocus being the most high profile.

Of course Israelis like the aura of being associated with complex spy tricks, so they will portray themselves as having done it, but did they?

Or is this another thinly covered British operation to bring the Israel war to a quicker end?