Topic: Hhampuz REAL Reputation Thread - Fortune Jack - Liars, scam pushers, extortion ? (Read 1180 times)

We possibly agree but only in part. Our reasons were:

The board full well knows this same evidence has been presented many times before. We were giving hhampuz a chance to say that he is not knowingly employing such persons and move straight to a thread for the sponsor. He has not given us a definite "no" answer.  However, he has confirmed that the sponsor is FULLY aware. They will need to explain their own actions in the next thread. Hhampuz seemed to know precisely to who we were referring to with no need of any further immediate evidence.

We need "concrete" evidence to start an investigation thread or we get red trust? how will anyone discuss "possible" infractions or possible scams if you need "concrete" evidence to start it is not permitted to release it in stages after the initial post?  If any DT brings an investigation thread without "concrete" evidence at the start must they too receive red trust? That is not what you are saying but it is what others are claiming in their red trust source links.

We accept presenting "concrete" evidence at the very start is MORE compelling and initially convincing. It is not more reliable. If the evidence presented at ANY point is observable then it is completely reliable. The evidence can not be cast in doubt due to the stage it is released in that case.

We in each stage of the initial post raised questions. We decided to release the evidence in stages so that any rebuttals or refutations could be clearly dealt with without confusion in some order.

So to recap - the extortion we believe is probable but we are open to debate, the lying and scamming is observable and undeniable, the trust abuse is clear to us on lauda's part, the previous trust abuse is self confessed on tmans part, the escrow debacle is not yet examined since there does not seem enough detail to make a full judgement but looks rather worrying. We may start an entire thread just on that very topic.

There have been 0 attempts to deny, excuse or refute the evidence by any of the persons involved. They have had time to leave multiple red tags in order to silence these observable events being examined.

Red trust is not a weapon to be used by liars and scammers to silence whistle blowers.

This argument, that you need to list all of the evidence right away, or else the evidence is in some way less valuable, seems unreasonable. If that is what you are saying. That is only possibly correct in terms of the initial post. In the context of the entire thread then a gradual release to allow ordered discussion and debate is a better way to go. In our humble opinion.

Read my post again and don't insert your preconceived ideas of what I'm trying to say.

"I'm waiting to see threads that provide concrete evidence right-away rather than saying they have some thereof."

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Is it not better to begin an accusational thread with that of the substantiated evidence?

What has more impact and sounds more reliable?

"We have evidence but we're not showing it right now."
"We have evidence and here it is:"

It is like dealing with persons that suffered serious brain trauma. Please read the initial post. Hhampuz does not need to defend his part in any extortion, scamming, lying, or anything else. He needs to make it clear if he is or is not hiring, sponsoring those individuals that are either guilty or were implicated in those types of behaviors. Hhampuz said he did not hire lauda. He did not say whether he has recruited any of the other people mentioned in this thread or not.
Actmyname seems to be claiming the evidence provided is not compelling enough for the initial post to be valid. We disagree. The evidence of lying and scamming is clear. The evidence for the extortion is compelling. The evidence for trust abuse is there is black and white and has been presented many times. You can not red trust a person for saying they will encourage others to review your post history.

You may not red trust a person for asking a set of questions that then are publicly examined and compelling evidence is provided which demonstrate those questions are valid and warranted.

Considering the DTs so keen to say the questions were defaming and untrue I see 0 denial or refutation coming from them. Looks like primarily a bunch of DTs all colluding to protect one another and their sponsor by using red trust as a weapon to silence whistle blowing or even public analysis of observable events.


Read the OP there is no reason to find Hhampuz name  on that thread.

Better than fighting for free speech on this forum?
You have never bothered reading or looking into the evidence that other core DT1 members are liars, scammers, extortionists ?? but you have got time to trawl the entire board looking for small time crooks?

This is a very strange attitude for a DT member to publicly announce.

The FBI is absolutely no question very concerned about a campaign manager who has to deal with peoples hurt feelings. Real talk.

That said, which is for sure the truth ..Hhampuz is a good buddy of mine and one of the reasons why I appreciate them as a friend is their integrity. They’re a good person and not out to fck anyone over. I know personally that they work hard to select the right people in a fair manner for their campaigns. They take it seriously. Not to mention they go out of their way to help people here ALL the time. I’ll change  my mind if you provide this proof otherwise.

Ah, don't you know the US government started outsourcing the FBI and has now gone corporate. Cheaper that way: more money can be dedicated to financing their military.

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I'm waiting to see threads that provide concrete evidence right-away rather than saying they have some thereof. It helps no one and can be used as a blanket statement so it devalues the impact of those that actually have something (or think they do)

Which one is it there champ

Nice story. You must be trolling. Your links are broken. Probably because the fbi would never use a .com domain. Also, in the other thread you started, you are not allowed to post doxing info in any section besides investigations. You will need to use your real account because newbies cannot post there or read it.

There is a FBI investigation into all these users which can be viewed here www.fbi.com/case/number/report/56€800s.
They are being run by a single individual who is using multiple accounts to pull a fake front.
The report also shows that the users are linked and shill Bidding to inflate auctions to scam people.
nOn of these users when questioned could not verify their identity and are running behind fake alt accounts with fake trust reputations.
The report also claims they have extorted over 20k in bitcoin via illegal activities on this forum which is being monitored.
One example is polymerbit runs an alt account named lesbiancow.
The FBI are still investigating polymerbits relationship with known extortionist and scammers.
All trusted users are abusing the trust and are accomplice to helping scammers run this forum.
The FBI is aware of this which can be seen in the report.
The FBI has also been tracking their social media accounts outside of this forum and is aware of the fake front that is being pushed by these scammers.
It's all illegal what is happening and if you have been a victim of their scams please send a report here www.fbi.com/make/a/report.
A quick glimpse into each of their feedback and trust ratings indicate they are running a scam ring and are associated with scammers.
The same users are leaving negative trust to abuse this forum.
They are a small gang/group of scammers who have overtaken the trust of this forum and using it to game this forum to their advantage.
We would strongly advise everyone to not deal with anyone who is abusing the forum trust.
Accounts can be bought and so can trust and the forum can be gamed to peoples advantage.
A quick Google search shows these people are also doxing anyone who disagrees with them to the point the victims are considering suicide.
The forum is rampant with scammers but the biggest scammers are the ones with alot of trust who abuse their place in this forum.
There are also claims of trusted members scamming people outside of this forum by using this forums trust reputation. Non of this is being monitored or spoken about. Users are being scammed non stop and the biggest scammers hang out in the Collectables section.

ok this is maybe the 100th time someone uses this thread as a "proof" of whatever claim they have , I have never really bothered reading it, but i used the search function to find "Hhampuz" name (which is what this topic's tittle implies) but i could not find it.

but for the sake of it, let's assume that the "gang" theory is real, and they do control the forum, aren't you tired of fighting them already? don't you have a better thing to do in life? just curious.

You really are a buffoon.  Maybe I'll take my next burger flipping paycheck and buy you a dictionary.

Here are some definitions I suggest you look up:

Demonstrated
Fact
Proof
Proven
Trust
Truth
Undeniable

What about your other claim? we cleared that up for you now?

Merits? no wonder we deleted those. They can successfully be targeted in many real debates, to locate the most misleading net negative shit posts. This is how we spot them so easily. You mean the conspiracy theories that are undeniable, and make you look foolish repeatedly when you tried to deny them?

Low brows often create straw men they believe exist. We did not whine about the lack of responses. We stated nobody had made any attempt to refute or deny the evidence we presented.

I see you missed the part where we mentioned they may present those deleted posts in the meta thread to theymos directly tomorrow.

Do you wish to discuss the evidence presented in this thread? If not we will delete you.

I prefer scotch generally.

I'm claiming you're deleting posts, including ones that have received merits, so your whining about the lack of response is disingenuous. Take your time to grasp this, sip some of that expensive wine, and come back with a conspiracy theory about corrupt merit circles. Thank you.

Are you claiming those posts contained a refutation to any of our points, or questions, in the OP? those deleted were valueless noise? they can post them once again in the meta thread addressed to theymos tomorrow if they believe that they were unfairly deleted.

We are simply stating, that in 24 hours, if those DT member that left red trust have not reviewed the evidence provided within this thread, and removed the red trust ( they left apparently because the questions asked there were accompanied by 0 evidence). Then we will bring it to the attention of admin, for them to either remove it, or explain why red trust can be used to silence those that ask legitimate questions about the observable past of DT members. Red trust can not be used as a weapon by scammers and scammers friends to silence the reporting or questioning of their own observably untrustworthy behavior.

It will serve as an appeal thread. Although trust is not moderated. We think it serves as a perfect example of trust being used by scammers and their friends to cover their tracks.

That's a lot for you to take in. Take your time. Your part in defending them continually. although you are in full knowledge of their actions. has not escaped our notice.

Edited 2020-11-30 to fix a broken image


Sounds like you're threatening to harass users (and their friends?) by spamming until you get admin's attention. I hope you do.

bump


We do not notice any denial from those that have seen this thread, taken the time to try to silence us with red trust, but know it is futile to deny the evidence that is there for all to observe.

We will be taking to meta board soon, to request theymos remove the red trust on our account, or give an explanation as to why there is a trust system that allows persons to be given red trust by observable :scammers, liars, and probable extortionists, simply for examining in public their previous behavior?  Red trust is supposed to be used to highlight these untrustworthy individuals, not be a weapon for scammers, liars and probable extortionists to silence whilst blowers.

The evidence has been submitted on this thread. The guilty members and their friends have 24 hours to remove the red trust else we will repeatedly ask  admin for a public examination and comment on the matter. We need to ensure that theymos is aware that red trust is being perverted in this manner and placing in danger the entire board.

We will repeatedly push for red trust abusers to be blacklisted from the trust system.

Hhampuz was invited to clear up the question, whether or not he did employ or directly sponsor these individuals. He indicated he did not directly sponsor Lauda. We invited him to comment on the other members so that his name could be removed from this public investigation.

It is clear that Fortune Jack are directly or indirectly sponsoring scammers, liars, and probable extortionists. We will create a separate thread later repeatedly calling for their public comment.

Oh, it is you. Okay, we will be a little more patient. We have read over the vicious blackmailing actions of Alice, and her annoying droning on relating to her phone being kindly liberated from her abusive custodianship by the victim and hero bob.


Read the OP. Campaign managers and sponsors, have to be careful, that their reputation is not tainted, by unknowingly employing or sponsoring liars, scammers, those implicated in extortion, and other shady looking behavior. We wish to save Hhampuz, and fortune jack, from multiple threads on this matter.

Keep to the topic, and you will be okay. We are interested in the truth, nothing more. You are free to discuss the evidence. You have speculated on our motives. We will allow them to stay. That is not the focus. We will not be derailed.

If you claim the truth does not interest you. Or if you claim innocent persons receiving red trust is a good thing. Then you will be deleted. We have no interest in changing your mind. You are free to post your ideas in other threads.

You have no idea the levels of stupidity I am capable of. Please refrain from imposing your expectations or judgement on me and my intellect.

All that you are doing is crating a flimsy little bridge to try and

This has nothing to do with Hhampuz; come on just admit it. So it probably could have just gone in any number of "Lauda did this threads", but I guess after a little while people stop responding so you and the totally independent separate person CryptoHunter feel the need to try and have the same "discussion" seeking a new end.

One thing you may not have seen from me is I won't follow these leads elsewhere. If I'm posting in this topic it stays with the original confines of the OP. Let's not forget Alice, Bob and the Cell phone.

Have another look and have a think about it in the full context of the initial post. You can not be this stupid. We are providing evidence that is required by the intial post. We have covered the extortion, the lying, the scamming, we will move to the final items after enough time has passed that we deem suitable. How would one conclude hhampuz and fortune jack are sponsoring these types of individuals without supplying the evidence above? For our red trust to be removed we must demonstrate what we are proposing as a possibility  is true or probable.

Yes we already mentioned it was cryptohunter than initially presented this evidence, of lying and scamming several times. It was useful you were able to take note of that.

Take care that your next reply contains something of value, or we will delete it.

I took a quick peek at that thread. Couldn't help myself, the only person I noticed arguing with Lauda there was your dear friend CryptoHunter.
Thought this thread was supposed to be about Hhampuz?? Or is that just another way to start a thread and move onto the same topic/repetitive complaints that seem to take over many discussion threads.

This shit is so irritatingly counter productive to anything. Just lock this shit show and move on.

It is clear that the probable extortionists are not willing to come and set the record straight. They have time to use their red trust to try to silence me asking questions about it though?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/laudatmanminifrijironmarvel2owlcatz-extortion-attempt-1764757

When reviewing the above thread, it serves as compelling evidence for the extortion questions that we opened with in the initial post. We draw from this and their lack of defense here while having time to apply red trust to this account on the basis " we are drawing attention to shady behavior in their past" that it is highly probable these people tried to extort another member of this forum.

Let us move to Lauda being a scammer.  Scamming is lying or deceiving for financial gain or unfair advantage.  This is clearly what scammers do.  We can observe from Laudas past that he firmly meets the definition of a scammer. This evidence was presented many times before by Cryptohunter  A TRUE LEGEND


We copy and pasted this from a post by our dear friend and inspiration cryptohunter

This is regarding a project that announced a fair pow launch (no premine/instamine)

It then did this

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7535561

lauda made these comments on many occasions over many months we had quite a few arguments over it

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6748208

Now this is clearly a financially motivated lie. Scammers are financially motivated liars.



It is observable that lauda is therefore a liar and a scammer.

These incidents alone are grounds for red trust, but together they culminate in providing evidence that Lauda is a continuous threat to the board.

The trust abuse will be covered next.

Thankyou for the bump. You've come to discuss the possible extortion attempt, that YOU are implicated in? That's great. What's a Quickscammer? Is he the whilstleblower that caught you guys trying to extort another member? how did you obtain the victims dox?why involve someones parents?That's not nice,I see your own dox is available, I hope that never happens to you.

We'd only like to get to the truth.
Accusing us of spreading false information? which information is false? we'll get that deleted right away.


A quote for the future

So did you bump that thread too, Quickscammer?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/laudatmanminifrijironmarvel2owlcatz-extortion-attempt-1764757

We should focus on the 1st item of evidence. More will follow. The questions asked in the initial post, must be addressed.  We want a thorough, sensible and complete investigation. We seek only the truth.

Only the god father of this forum can use this language freely ,  also this shows how educated and manners  few DT members have.... Power show



OP does not have any allegations on you but your childhood habit of putting your head into others issues is still not gone.

Yeah. If your posts were mainly like this one, no wonder why you didn't get any reward.  
Your posts still need to qualify as per the campaign terms.

Why did you join more than once if you didn't get reward anyway ?  

Hhampuz does his job very well and he rocks at it !

I was once joined Hhampuz sig campaign,twice or thrice but didnt have any rewards so ill leave this comment here. 

But in the OP it a clear direct attack.
This is a weak move which is just a waste of time. If you have something to say about someone, then at least have the evidence of their wrong doing ready and be sure of what you are saying but not just because of probably a past disagreement or pure hate. That's not how it works.

I don't know why you accuse me of opening that thread with an alt.Would i try to keep hunting that issue i wouldn't have locked the old thread and deleted all my messages on your threads.

Tec said in the old thread you are trying to change your actions so i belive in that and what i saw is nice (including Quickseller on livecoin) even i have to agree on some degree with OP.(Thats what i call the benefit of DT members)

I guess thats a result of fucking thepharmacist who throughs my nick on every thread which is negative and created by an alt.

Just for your information i reduced wasting my time on that forum since if theymos doesn't won't to change i'm not going to fight the battle for him by spending tons of my own time.


@Hhampuz

You should see instantly on the english writing skills that it can't be me.

Please stop accusing me of being thule. I am not he.

We are not attacking anyone. We are helping projects make sure they are not unknowingly sponsoring observably untrustworthy individuals and possible scammers.

Hhampuz, if you have not directly enlisted the people that we will bring for public examination, then you can be excused from this. We will go directly to the sponsor for their comment on the evidence we shall present. Then we shall bring for public debate whether a project should choose to give these types of individuals private, exclusive and lucrative deals to represent them. What that implies about the legitimacy of these sponsors, and the security of people using these services.

We shall continue to seek debate on it, for as long as it takes to ensure red trust is removed from all of those that have not scammed any person, or attempted to scam any person.

Our intention is to get to the truth, and nothing more.

Campaign managers must also make sure they are not showing favor to these types of persons, or any persons. They must do their very best to make sure all persons are fairly treated and not turned away, so they assist their friends get all the highest paying slots. Not that we are claiming you do that.


Let us start with the possible failed extortion ( or did it fail) attempt by  Lauda TMAN owlcatz.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/laudatmanminifrijironmarvel2owlcatz-extortion-attempt-1764757

Note that 2 of those persons have applied red trust to this account before they were named?

Read the thread  then we can discuss it. I have noticed senior and highly trusted members of this community insist the believe it was a real extortion attempt.

Senior members of the community, and trusted members with zero shady events in their own histories, said they had spoken to the victim and it was  a real extortion attempt.  Could it be feasible that since lauda, tman, and owlcatz had leverage over him so they were in a position to force him to say anything they liked to get them off the hook?  This will be the first examination of just one of the possible incidents we wish to examine in public. All questions we asked in the initial post will be validated and covered as we proceed.

We seek only the truth on these important matters of trust.

We invite the senior and trusted members of the community that we mentioned  believed it to be a real extortion attempt to come forward first, to give us their insight.

The most SAVAGE feedback I've ever seen from this day, lol.

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My guess is, this not even thule nor CH, This one of the sockpuppets of the ones who got rejected their application on FJ. Surely and maybe on all of your Campaigns


Its been a quite while now since I've seen something ridiculous about the one of the big and long term campaigns. Guess what, Chipmixer, Bitvest, Bustadice,777coin will be next 😂😂😂

(Okay, that's enough internet for me today,lol)

So just from the descriptions in the initial post you recognize the members we are going to examine? that is interesting and also troubling.  Perhaps fortune jack do not have the full picture of what perhaps these people are guilty of and how many threads examining this could negatively impact upon their business?

You claim you did not directly hire or recruit these members personally?

If you have not directly employed or facilitated the sponsorship of the members we will examine,  we can delete your name from this, and focus directly on the fortune jack themselves. No project should be kept in the dark as to the types of members that are enlisting and perhaps sullying their reputation. Once we have presented the evidence to fortune jack then we are expecting they will act appropriately. Should they still decide to directly sponsor these individuals, then we can then investigate this at a later stage in public. We seek only the truth.

This would be hypocritical if true. However the logic that some use to say that using two accounts in a single advertising campaign is a scam is nonsense. You can post this information if you wish, however this will not show Hhampuz is untrustworthy. 

This is an interesting prerequisite.

The existence of other self-moderated threads does not detract from my statement.
(I would rather message them privately than post publicly as to not repeat the same post throughout multiple threads)

Moreover, there is one critical component that you neglect: the fact that Hhampuz's reputation thread is not self-moderated yet yours is.

Would it not be better to post there? Your posts would not be deleted lest they be deemed spam.

Locate your DT friends SM threads here in reputation and paste your above message there so that I may witness you are not seeking to deploy double standards from the outset.

Failure to do so will result in any other posts you make here being deleted.

We shall not delete posts that meet the requisites stated in the initial post

A self-moderated thread shows that you are ill-fit to deal with criticism.

Spam can be handled through the report feature. Anything above that depicts an insecure position.

We will bring evidence to demonstrate this particular member is always first to back up the people we wish to examine. He may be complicit in their actions and he himself now lecturing on using an alt account is guilty of using alt accounts himself to troll sig spam extra sig campaign dollars out of this board.

The evidence will perhaps demonstrate it is likely he himself who is untrustworthy, and perhaps it is suspicious that his account is always first to back up those we are going to examine on this thread for more serious and far more untrustworthy actions?

We will examine the evidence and for that we notice red trust already being applied to this account ?

We are untrustworthy for wishing to examine their past ?  

  I'm not certain exactly which members you are eluding to; however, if it is who I suspect then it appears that they are not part of the signature campaign Hhampuz is running, but have some kind of independent arrangement. You can see who is currently enrolled under the campaign HHampuz is running on his spreadsheet, here. Also, you will notice that a couple members have the FortuneJack signature but not the avatar. I believe that the campaign that Hhampuz is running require participants to sport the avatar, too.

   Also, one of the campaigns that he is currently running is the one that I am involved in. HHampuz has graciously accepted Quickseller as well. So it appears that he is willing to give people with negative trust a chance.

Does Hhampuz  knowingly choose to employ and sponsor people that are Liars, Scam pushers, trust abusers and those implicated in extortion schemes and other shady escrow deals ? whilst refusing people into these lucrative campaign deals on the basis of the opinions  of these liars, scammers, possible extortionists and trust abusers?

Are these probable  crooks and liars are able to red trust who they like, for whatever reason they decide, and even get those people banned for telling the truth about them?

Does Fortune Jack know about this and are they complicit in sponsoring the activities of those types of individuals that use their powers here as DT members and merit sources to silence those that try to whistle blow on them?

This will be the first of many threads started to examine the possible actions of campaign managers and their projects and their sponsorship of perhaps some of the most shady people on this entire board whilst refusing honest members merely on some red marks actual scammers and liars wish to put on their accounts. Or some silly merit score that they and their friends control a vast proportion of?

Before we present the evidence for public analysis. Let see what other members have to say. Posts will be deleted if not accompanied by evidence, off topic or deemed irrelevant by myself.

Perhaps any fake red trust applied to honest members accounts not directly related to scams and scamming should be removed? Why should honest members suffer at the hands of those that have committed far worse atrocities ? whilst they cream off the best deals for them selves and their friends?  Perhaps anyone that has been banned for simply whistle blowing or under some false pretense should be reinstated immediately?


Edit - we notice already that one of the possible liars, scammers and probable extortionists has tried to damage my account for merely asking for an investigation?

A clear violation of DT and another clear example of red trust being used to prevent any whilst blowing. They are perverting the very nature of the trust system.

This thread and many others will not be going away until red trust can no longer be used to silence whilst blowing. They fear examination of facts to such an extent they will try everything to prevent it taking place on a public board.