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Quote from: Stalker22 on January 27, 2024, 03:09:55 PM

I dont fully buy the reasons for keeping the site private. It does nothing for your buddy but hides a potential threat from others. Places that out scams exist so people can share what they know and help each other avoid shady situations and seems better to put it out there.

Same thought.

From what I understand, they got the money back so case is pretty much over.

Quote from: Krleza on January 26, 2024, 03:01:05 PM

Got some news, kinda good. Convinced my buddy it's definitely a scam. It was Difficult, because he dropped 3K$ and got back 3,300$, so he's still skeptical. Not sure if the scammers will be satisfied with 300 bucks in the victim's account. We'll see.

Unless... OP's bud is still planning on putting in some more money to scammer's fake exchange hence the: if the scammer searched for the domain name and found this thread, they might know the victim's onto them statement. I hope I'm wrong though since this is some extremely risky thing.

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Quote from: Krleza on January 26, 2024, 03:01:05 PM

The domain is the name of a somewhat known exchange/wallet plus some random characters and .com.

This alone is reason enough not to trust that site. There is no legitimate business that would do that.

Quote from: Krleza on January 26, 2024, 03:01:05 PM

I think it's reason enough not to disclose it. I'll continue to provide updates as things go on. If everything finish without major issues, I'll share the domain, but I want to ensure my mate is out of danger first.

I dont fully buy the reasons for keeping the site private. It does nothing for your buddy but hides a potential threat from others. Places that out scams exist so people can share what they know and help each other avoid shady situations and seems better to put it out there.

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Quote from: Krleza on January 25, 2024, 07:06:01 AM

I've continued investigating, and it looks like a scam. Initially, I was surprised because the information came from a close friend who confirmed that he was selling small amounts of Tether and receiving deposits in the bank.

Don't believe everything with your close friends. If it's related to money, many of them are going to be happily selling their souls to anybody just for them to have that quick buck.
If he's not convinced that it's a scam, he'll likely be one of the victims soon and don't listen to anything he say when you know the truth. Listen to him but never follow the advises he'll say.
And that is because you know the reality that he's talking BS and it's just hard to swallow the pill when someone goes against you and that's what he's experiencing right now.

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Quote from: Krleza on January 26, 2024, 03:01:05 PM

Hey again!

Got some news, kinda good. Convinced my buddy it's definitely a scam. It was Difficult, because he dropped 3K$ and got back 3,300$, so he's still skeptical. Not sure if the scammers will be satisfied with 300 bucks in the victim's account. We'll see.

About sharing that domain some of you asked about, I've got reservations. Let me break it down.

The domain is the name of a somewhat known exchange/wallet plus some random characters and .com.

Not spilling it here 'cause, like I said earlier, it doesn't show up in any Google search or social media. I suspect it's a custom-made domain for this scam, so they can easily find threads like this one and check if the victim's onto them.

I think it's reason enough not to disclose it. I'll continue to provide updates as things go on. If everything finish without major issues, I'll share the domain, but I want to ensure my mate is out of danger first.

Anyway, thanks once again for all the responses!

No need to share it here though, if that is the definition of the site name, with some random characters and a .com it's 100% pure scam, sorry to burst the bubble for you. We as experience traders or investors know how this scammers are going to take advantage of newbies. And again, it might be better not disclosing it here as there could be noobs that might fall for it. So better keep it to yourself and to your mate. Hopefully, you and your mate will not deposit any more money to it, because the next time you deposit, for the hope that it will grow bigger, that website will be offline and before you realized it, gonna be too late.

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Hey again!

Got some news, kinda good. Convinced my buddy it's definitely a scam. It was Difficult, because he dropped 3K$ and got back 3,300$, so he's still skeptical. Not sure if the scammers will be satisfied with 300 bucks in the victim's account. We'll see.

About sharing that domain some of you asked about, I've got reservations. Let me break it down.

The domain is the name of a somewhat known exchange/wallet plus some random characters and .com.

Not spilling it here 'cause, like I said earlier, it doesn't show up in any Google search or social media. I suspect it's a custom-made domain for this scam, so they can easily find threads like this one and check if the victim's onto them.

I think it's reason enough not to disclose it. I'll continue to provide updates as things go on. If everything finish without major issues, I'll share the domain, but I want to ensure my mate is out of danger first.

Anyway, thanks once again for all the responses!

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Quote from: logfiles on January 24, 2024, 05:20:07 PM

You are probably referring to dark web marketplaces and yep, this major search engines do not index them. Some of those marketplaces do not have any clearnet address. You only access them through Tor browser. Some are popular in the dark web, others are not, the problem is figuring out which one is a scam and which one is not as there are so many scams over there so that 10% offer on tether could be a scam Who knows.

I think there are also Google like search engines inside the dark web. We can use them and look for feedbacks about that platform we are having interest with, to know if they are truly legit or not. If we are lazy to do that, or we simply don't know how to look for a genuine feedback, we can just refer to the ones that are more known in the marketplace. If they are known to be legit, we can use them right away.

But if they are known to be a scam, we can ignore them. Diving the dark web is still very risky, especially for the newbies, so I wouldn't advise them of doing it. If there is such thing as the OP is talking about, it is still not worth it once something bad happens to us.

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Quote from: Krleza on January 25, 2024, 07:06:01 AM

I performed a whois lookup on the domain, and it's from late 2023, the first red flag. That's why it's not indexed, and there's no mention of it anywhere. When I asked him where he got this exchange, he said a person from a crypto channel on Telegram contacted him—second red flag. This person has no references beyond the Telegram channel and is asking him to invest more money while urging him to keep the operations secret.

It's nice to know that you can at least sense some red flags. The fact that he got the buying/selling portal through some stranger on telegram means that it's 99% scam if I am being lenient. Advise him to stay away from the too-good-to-be-true deals and if he is still in doubt, invite him to read through the comments in this thread.

Also, why don't you do the community a favor by mentioning the so-called exchange here? Members will help to dissect and give out an alert if they see more red flags. This will help anyone else in the future who is trying to do their own research about the portal.

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Quote from: Krleza on January 25, 2024, 07:06:01 AM

I've continued investigating, and it looks like a scam. Initially, I was surprised because the information came from a close friend who confirmed that he was selling small amounts of Tether and receiving deposits in the bank.
~snip~

You always have to start from the assumption that such things have nothing to do with the truth, regardless of who you get the information from. Scammers use the "good friends" method in order to expand their network of naive users who in this specific case should believe that someone is buying the so-called stablecoin at a premium price of even 10%, which is one of the biggest nonsense I've read on the forum.

Lucky for you, you're not quite as naive as your friend who will soon find out what it means to be a premium victim when (if) he tries to sell a larger amount of that stablecoin at a premium price.

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Quote from: Krleza on January 25, 2024, 07:06:01 AM

I discussed all this with him yesterday, but he really wants to believe that it's not a scam. Let's see how it turns out.

What's with this hidden portal you heard from your friend and you decided to bring it here, if your friend can't find out for himself then he can't believe what you're saying cause the value rate seems too interesting for him and anything that sounds too good you should never believe first but make your research.
Everyday we hear a lot about scam and people have refused to learn from the mistake of others but rather any little juicy offer they will fall for it, and the funny part is scammers are always ready with new methods.

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Quote from: Krleza on January 25, 2024, 07:06:01 AM

I believe it's the kind of scam where they build trust by letting him make esmall withdraws to make him invest a huge amount of money, and then they disappear.

Yeah. Its a pretty common tactic with shady exchanges these days - they reel you in with promises of big signup bonuses and other perks, as long as you deposit funds first. Then once you have put in a chunk of coin, surprise surprise, you find it impossible to withdraw anything. It preys on people's greed and gullibility.

Quote from: Krleza on January 25, 2024, 07:06:01 AM

I discussed all this with him yesterday, but he really wants to believe that it's not a scam. Let's see how it turns out.

Unfortunately, some people seem to be destined to learn the hard way. Your friend appears to be one of them.

Still, best advice is dont get fooled by appearances and any offer that looks too good to be true almost certainly is.

This is something that happens to many people at telegram. Theyre offer some really easy job and make fast payments, then you invest and they disappear.

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Quote from: Krleza on January 25, 2024, 07:06:01 AM

I believe it's the kind of scam where they build trust by letting him make esmall withdraws to make him invest a huge amount of money, and then they disappear.

Yeah. Its a pretty common tactic with shady exchanges these days - they reel you in with promises of big signup bonuses and other perks, as long as you deposit funds first. Then once you have put in a chunk of coin, surprise surprise, you find it impossible to withdraw anything. It preys on people's greed and gullibility.

Quote from: Krleza on January 25, 2024, 07:06:01 AM

I discussed all this with him yesterday, but he really wants to believe that it's not a scam. Let's see how it turns out.

Unfortunately, some people seem to be destined to learn the hard way. Your friend appears to be one of them.

Still, best advice is dont get fooled by appearances and any offer that looks too good to be true almost certainly is.

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Too good to be true, it is definitely a scam. All beginners will think it is a golden opportunity, which is to buy USDT and sell it to them with a difference of 10%. A guaranteed and quick profit, but as soon as you make a deposit, the problems will begin and your money will disappear. Also, the absence of any search results and joining by invitation all confirm that it is a Pyramid marketing model, where they mostly rely on trust between friends.

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these kind of portals stand on deep web. And actually, this is the perfect post that these kind of website creators use to expand their clients.

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Quote from: Krleza on January 25, 2024, 07:06:01 AM

I believe it's the kind of scam where they build trust by letting him make esmall withdraws to make him invest a huge amount of money, and then they disappear.

I discussed all this with him yesterday, but he really wants to believe that it's not a scam. Let's see how it turns out.

P.S.: I'm not my friend xD

RIP.

Well, you did your part as their friend, it's out of your hands if they don't wanna listen, sadly.

BTW, could we get the domain name now that it is more or less confirmed it's a scam? all the more reason to reveal it for awareness and possible reporting e.g. some registars takes action on blatant scam domains.

I suggest wrapping the domain name with code tags, example:

Code:

google.com

How to:

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Hello! Thank you very much, everyone, for the responses!

I've continued investigating, and it looks like a scam. Initially, I was surprised because the information came from a close friend who confirmed that he was selling small amounts of Tether and receiving deposits in the bank.

I performed a whois lookup on the domain, and it's from late 2023, the first red flag. That's why it's not indexed, and there's no mention of it anywhere. When I asked him where he got this exchange, he said a person from a crypto channel on Telegram contacted him—second red flag. This person has no references beyond the Telegram channel and is asking him to invest more money while urging him to keep the operations secret.

I believe it's the kind of scam where they build trust by letting him make esmall withdraws to make him invest a huge amount of money, and then they disappear.

I discussed all this with him yesterday, but he really wants to believe that it's not a scam. Let's see how it turns out.

P.S.: I'm not my friend xD

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Quote from: Krleza on January 24, 2024, 10:06:53 AM

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Do you know about these types of portals, or can you provide more information on how and why they operate like this? Who is involved, and why are they selling Tether at these values?

Bro, the more hidden they are, the riskier it is for you, Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are plain in transactions even if they are decentralised, so the so-called hidden strategy or association is nonsense to me even as their transactions are obvious when they move money, so what? There is no big deal here and for you not to have found them through the search engine means that they are not popular. I do not think this should raise our curiosity for any reason but to forget them and follow the right/best procedures to own, hold and move your coins as you wish.

And please, be very careful about scams on the internet, I have seen similar packages like this where they use invitation to scam people even as they remain hidden when you search for them. But it was in fiat. Since it's USDT, what is the difference? They can come in divers ways. Be careful!

I personally won't be involved any investments that's sorounded in secrecy, and the more secret it is the more it's not likely to be genuine for me, and since the OP was not willing to give more information about the project, then how can the experienced members in this forum be able to understand better and offer advice. Let him just beware of being scammed, because I don't know how someone can be able to carry out research on something that's sorounded in secrecy. Let him just invest the amount that he can afford to loose, if he must engage in this hidden portal, so if it's a scam, the lose will not affect him much.

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Quote from: Krleza on January 24, 2024, 10:06:53 AM

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Do you know about these types of portals, or can you provide more information on how and why they operate like this? Who is involved, and why are they selling Tether at these values?

Bro, the more hidden they are, the riskier it is for you, Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are plain in transactions even if they are decentralised, so the so-called hidden strategy or association is nonsense to me even as their transactions are obvious when they move money, so what? There is no big deal here and for you not to have found them through the search engine means that they are not popular. I do not think this should raise our curiosity for any reason but to forget them and follow the right/best procedures to own, hold and move your coins as you wish.

And please, be very careful about scams on the internet, I have seen similar packages like this where they use invitation to scam people even as they remain hidden when you search for them. But it was in fiat. Since it's USDT, what is the difference? They can come in divers ways. Be careful!

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Quote from: Krleza on January 24, 2024, 10:06:53 AM

Hello! I've heard about a very mysterious cryptocurrency buying/selling portal. I haven't found its name indexed on any search engine, social media platform, or internet forum. Registration is exclusively by invitation, and as far as I know, they are buying Tether at 10% above its value.

The topic has sparked my curiosity. I don't want to share the URL because, since I haven't seen it anywhere on the entire internet, I don't want to be the first one to write it down Cheesy

Do you know about these types of portals, or can you provide more information on how and why they operate like this? Who is involved, and why are they selling Tether at these values?

They are buying with a premium price for Tether +10% of its market value?

Sounds fishy that they're buying that and it is not new that you've got get into this "hidden portal" or whatever they call it.

If you don't want to get scammed, you better just get on the actual market and exchanges to avoid some problems that you might regret dealing with if you continue this.

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You are probably referring to dark web marketplaces and yep, this major search engines do not index them. Some of those marketplaces do not have any clearnet address. You only access them through Tor browser. Some are popular in the dark web, others are not, the problem is figuring out which one is a scam and which one is not as there are so many scams over there so that 10% offer on tether could be a scam Who knows.

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Quote from: Krleza on January 24, 2024, 10:06:53 AM

they are buying Tether at 10% above its value.

Question: Why would they do that?

Quote from: Krleza on January 24, 2024, 10:06:53 AM

Do you know about these types of portals, or can you provide more information on how and why they operate like this? Who is involved, and why are they selling Tether at these values?

Oh, I see! You dont know either. No, I have never heard of such hidden portals either. I gotta say, sure sounds sketchy to me. Makes me wonder if its not just some kinda scam to sucker folks in. If it seems too good to be true. . . you know the saying. In any case, Id avoid anything claiming secret portals and higher payoffs unless you like tossing money into black holes.

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Quote from: Krleza on January 24, 2024, 10:06:53 AM

Hello! I've heard about a very mysterious cryptocurrency buying/selling portal. I haven't found its name indexed on any search engine, social media platform, or internet forum. Registration is exclusively by invitation, and as far as I know, they are buying Tether at 10% above its value.

If the platform is too obscure with little to no reputation, it's a hard pass for me.

In any custodial platforms, a good reputation is a must since they hold our coins, not to mention that there has been huge amount of never heard before fake exchanges that scammed people which is basically why the community has been telling people to stick with reputable services to play it safe.

Adding "they're buying above value" doesn't help either... as it could be said too good to be true.

Where did you get this info btw? from a random PM perhaps?

EDIT:

Serious question, do they call themselves "hidden portal" too lol?

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If it isn't Bisq I never heard of any hidden portals where to buy or sell crypto why not tell us more about what exactly this hidden portal is or share the website directly here instead so that we can check if this can be trusted or not?

There's no problem to share the website unless the website you share is illegal.

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Hello! I've heard about a very mysterious cryptocurrency buying/selling portal. I haven't found its name indexed on any search engine, social media platform, or internet forum. Registration is exclusively by invitation, and as far as I know, they are buying Tether at 10% above its value.

The topic has sparked my curiosity. I don't want to share the URL because, since I haven't seen it anywhere on the entire internet, I don't want to be the first one to write it down Cheesy

Do you know about these types of portals, or can you provide more information on how and why they operate like this? Who is involved, and why are they selling Tether at these values?

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