Topic: Hire Crypto Trader (Read 904 times)

probably you have so much time to do such thing and OP is a busy person reason why he wants to find signal group that can help him to trade..And perhaps we need to understand the fact as well that not all people whose interested in trading has a ability to understand the whole thing to cope trading because it all depends on the situation to be honest.

There are still people who do love to play with fire on which they do know the risk because it is really involving being manipulative which if you do get in too late then it would really be a total lost of money

but there are ones who do really love to play with risk because you could actually make profits if you done it right but newbies aren't really that suggested to play with this one.
Better to trade on your own and with this you could able to trade on your own and learn from it.

which in essence is a manipulative practice carried out by several groups that are already organized. I've seen a lot of pump and dump groups and the effects are visible and the disadvantages of this practice are also numerous.
It is better to stay away from such groups, trading manually using technical and fundamental knowledge is better and more useful.

The signals that are provided on these groups are for the benefit of group admins and some other insider people who decide which coin to pump, it's just a pump and dump scheme on most of the groups. They buy the coin first in small amounts and accumulate the coins over many days, once they have reached the threshold then they push the signal of that coin to buy and once the price goes up when people buy the coin then they dump their bags on the late comers and earn profits.

Nothing beats when you trade on your own on which in case you do lose up money or trades you wouldnt really regret since it is really jut on your own action on why you had able to commit such situation
unlike when you are following someone just because you do fully rely on it but on the time it losses those trades then you would really be having that kind of regret inside that it is much better that you
do lose those investment of yours by your own hands rather than with other calls.It is true that there are people who do really rely or believe that these things could really give out some significant
impact with their investment capital which we do know thats not how reality works.

As a rule, such signals seem accurate, but only until you try to put them into practice. But I can assume that after you stop following the signals, you see that some signal is really triggered by 100%, thereby compensating for previous unprofitable trades.

Good information there and I think I can agree to that, that even pro traders do also rely sometimes on software because it is impossible to predict all the outcomes by themselves. Using a bot can save him some money for hiring a person because a bot can run 24/7 and the bot can be configured in a way that it will provide different results from different trading platforms or traders. No need to hire different traders this way. This is a nice recommendation for the OP. let us hope he will consider this.

@Ararbermas if they a trader owns another group he can still offer his knowledge to other people to earn extra income. I think there is no disadvantage with it.

This could be done with a bot software and nothing else. That should tell you how ridiculously bad this idea is but it has been done for over 6 years now and I have seen them.

The reality is that there are tons of people who have done something like a bot, that they enter some indicators and whenever that indicator gets a hit, it signals the group and that way they end up with a lot of people who follow them because there is something official about it.

There are people who shill their bags as well but these indicator botters end up looking professional because of it. What people do not realize is that these are indicators and they are not results, all those "experts" use the same as well just not automatically, they manually check them.

I think most of the people who are commenting misunderstood what the op is really talking about here. From what I have understood, the op has a trade signal group for traders, so he is looking for traders who are interested in his services and wants to do business with him, but he didn’t really pass his message across the right way which made a lot of people here to misunderstand that.

So far I would say that most people are not going to be interested in this kind of business, and that’s because a lot of people here dreads relying or making use of signal groups, because majority of them usually don’t workout. Secondly, the op is a newbie, and most people here would find it difficult to trust someone who is still new to the forum and doesn’t have much activity yet to prove whether they are worthy to be trusted or not. Finally the op is not even engaging the comments that I have seen here so far.

That’s a fact, a lot of people in this forum would rather prefer to learn how to trade and do it themselves than having to join a trade signal group or paying someone to do the trade for them.

Most people don’t do that these days, they just prefer to handle their business all by themselves and not to get anyone else involved. Even the forum here is quite enough and will teach you a lot of things that you don’t know, because there are so many people here who are ready to share their thoughts. There are also lots of articles that would be found online that would help any Trader to be good as much as they want.

A few days ago I joined a group and they told me they would signal me to trade.  And what a regular signal they gave but I did not get good results from their signal.  I had a good amount of profit when I traded with my darna before I joined their group.

There would be always someone who would really be much better than you speaking off on how we do trade off but lets just accept the fact that if there are indeed good traders then so what?

It wouldnt really be just right that you would really be needing off to depend or rely on to those traders yet you could really make out profits for yourself and it does really need up some realization.

One thing you should be minding off on how you would able to sustain yourself with this very unpredictable market.

Come on, all sources can be found in today's media technology. honestly like VIP Signal or free Signal, etc. I do not believe it. I prefer the way I research myself, my fundamental instincts, and technical analysis that I learned from YouTube so that I can make my own conclusions without being influenced by FOMO. my money is my responsibility

I have seen great necrobumping and I have seen totally irrelevant ones. I wouldn't say it is totally bad, it just needs to be relevant. Like "I guess in 2021 we may see 60k+" when we never saw even above 1k back in 2013 could be necrobumped and the OP that wrote that could say "I told you guys so" and that would be awesome. But this one doesn't make sense.

I would say there are experts for sure, not like clear cut  profit by them that makes everyone rich type of deal, but I can name like 100 people who are better traders than me, I am not an amazing trader and I would never call myself amazing at anything, but there are people who do it better than I do. Would that make them experts? No, but it would make me trust them with my money if I knew them enough, like a friend for example and not some twitter influencer.

In my opinion it is better to learn to practice the market by yourself than to hire a crypto trader. Also, the correct market signals are not always in the same place you can easily get updated information about trading contacts by joining professional traders or different groups the risk is low here the current state of the crypto market may seem like a mystery to worry about, but it can also be fruitful. Learning from those who are more experienced than oneself is in many cases a key method of progress, and in one's own arsenal it is a good idea to learn the basics by using your knowledge.

But, what I feel like to suggest OP is, follow as much as groups and channels and learn to try signals similar to any of those groups who are good in predicting the direction of market. I mean you always need a role model to set your goals hence you may keep trying to generate your own signals with more accuracy.

But, I always believe into the existence of professional traders. Literally I am a long term holder/trader and I am just living out of cryptocurrencies. At the same time, I still doubt that I could lead a life out of active trading like day trading or swing trading.

I won't dare to try it.

Even if you guys tell me that you've been making profit with that guy's signals. I'm still not going to pay a visit to that channel even it's free. Congratulations to everyone of you if those signals have been helpful to you.

But I have never heard someone who's made a decent profit with proof living with it. Words are cheap but actual thing is hard to prove unless shown in the public.

Some people doesnt really mind off on bumping old threads without even tending to look at on the time on which this thread wasnt active.So its simply necrobumping which it isnt really that suggested to be done at all.

When it comes to trading then there's no such thing about being expert or someone could assure about precise predictions or assumptions thats why its better to make your own trading analysis

rather than on being relying into these stuffs or whatsoever because it isnt really just possible for someone to have that accurate predictions.

What makes you quote this very old post? Only just to say that? But, did not you read what he wrote? He said he was looking for an experienced trader and not someone that is new in crypto. I understand that you want to join his group to get free signals but I do not think he will open it publicly without a fee because he pays someone to run his business. Checking the profile of the Op I do not think he would comeback any moment to reply and give his link because his last online was from the year 2020.

My only advice to you is do not hope for this one but stick to what you already have, you already have top 3 groups and I bet they are good enough. Just keep on learning and you will become a successful trader soon.

If you want some signals and trade ideas then why don't you just join some existing signals groups? There are many groups that even provide you with such analysis for each of their trades. So why not just join them? I didn't understand the idea of finding someone to run a crypto signal group? Maybe you want to further monetize the channel so you can recover the amount you are paying to the person running the group? But in that case, why won't that person just start his own signals group? Even better as many of others have mentioned is to just learn by taking a course in the first place?

There are many ways to lose money in crypto and following a crypto signaling group is one of the fastest one. This guy is trying to tell people how to earn money in crypto by methods that will be told by a person he hired. This is the story of every signaling group, people with no knowledge are behind the group just earning money by giving fake signals.

Wow this is something new. First of all it’s worth noting that gaining profits from signal groups is perfect myth. I never seen anyone becoming successful trader from such groups. Moreover when you say it’s group then I am pretty sure there are huge number of investors into it and thus you are making bunch of millionaires everyday. Though I don’t see much of them but let’s understand it’s really in solved mystery how you guys do this or have guts to do this. Robbing investors money. Now hiring the manager for this group means you will need experienced mastermind of robbery. 

I know a person that have a big community on telegram. He is giving trading buy and sell signals from last few years. His telegram username is Rosycutee2. His signals are working. You have to pay a little fee to join their premium signals group. He guides you about account management too. You can join their Free telegram channel named " Rose Challenge" it has 92665 subscribers. So, check their quality signal results. If you liked it then join their premium channel to get signals. You can made good profit by following their signals. But choice is yours, that you liked it or not

Even though the first time we use our own analysis it doesn't always work, but at least we keep trying and learning,
so I think the decision to use our own analysis is much better than we just rely on other people's analysis,
actually it comes back to each person because of course they also have their own preferences

Usually, they give a trial to get trust from people to believe that those groups really have skills in trading. After that, those groups will ask people to pay subscriptions to get the next signal trading.

Yes, I agree that we better use our own analysis and not depend on other people's analysis because that is our way to learn to trade. Besides that, if we can learn by ourselves, we can improve the skills that will help us make a better analysis.

I think groups that give signals on social media like telegram and others have a specific purpose for the signals they give, I don't believe that.
it's better to trade with our own analysis because everything that will happen we will bear alone, therefore in trading we are required to continue to run many things to be able to analyze correctly without having to depend on others.

Indeed. If we only rely on the signal groups, it can be dangerous since we do not know if they really have good skills in analyzing the market or just share the signal from the other group trading. Many of them are waiting for the signal on the telegram, but the person who gave the signal does not give the right point when people should buy or sell and let them decide. So just be careful from the signal from the others and make sure you analyze before doing something.

The one who relies on signal group only who just enter the crypto market but for them who already have some experience they wont rely on the signal group, it's because no one guides them to do what and how. Its part of our responsibility when our friends want to learn how to become traders rather than got scammed by other people and trash talk. Signal only gave us a signal nothing more if they offer you something shady just avoid that.

Exactly, traders for the most part are secretive about their strategy and I cannot really blame them, when you take into account the hundreds of hours that they had put into developing their strategy and increasing their effectiveness it is not really difficult to understand why they would like to keep quiet about how they make money in the markets, after all if that information is leaked out to the public there is a high chance that this becomes a popular method of trading and this decreases the effectiveness of the method and the profits they receive out of it.

Imagine you want to become profitable trader but you keep depending on others by joining in signal groups or finding a fund manager. There is nothing wrong about it because it is your money after all, if you keep rely on the shit signals out there then it will be your own fault if you lose your hard earned money. Do not be deceived by the signals out there because most of them are scammers. Do not also have a wrong mindset where you think you can become profitable by just relying on signals.

It seems to me that it is safer to use a trading bot than a hired trader to trade cryptocurrency. Although in the best case, it is better to study the first basics of market analysis yourself, in order to try yourself in practice to trade cryptocurrency.

Most of the time only few chance of getting the right tips or only few traders who really care
for someone to share their knowledge.
The chance of getting the right person for this job is slim, crypto traders are quietly working
behind and keeps earning from this business.
They won't take their time just to earn a penny from those people who are lazy to take the
shortcut, everything needs to be learned in the right process.

This is very easy to know, he doesn't want to learn by himself because he probably knows that it will take him a lot of time and effort to do so, and let's be honest very few people have what it's necessary to become a good investor or trader, so he wants to skip that step and get someone to tell him what to do, but we know what is the end for someone like that, eventually he's going to listen to the advice of someone else and he is going to lose all his capital.

He's making a signal group and do hire a trader and gets some commission based on the sub fees from users but it is actually hard to get someone who do have better or good history of trades but to think that

someone can have its own group if he'd like to and get all of those fees on his own or without needing a team who would make up an arrangement since it doesnt really need too much people
when it comes to a signal group, you can create on your own or solo.

Also, its not already that much of interest for these signal groups yet people nowadays are already smart when it comes to this matter.

Why is it in need to hire a crypto trader at the first place when you can initially do it on your own? Indeed that at the first time doing trade, you will find it difficult most specially if you are just new into the crypto industry but upon getting along the process of first familiarizing yourself on the potential cryptocurrencies that are good for trading, surely you could do it all along by yourself.

My main concern is that why would you hire a crypto trader when basically you can do it for your own good. Well, if you do really insist on that, it would still be a good move to do to hire a crypto trader if you find doing trade a good opportunity to earn. With the right price surely you could find one. But since you are up into spending, better learn as well from your hired crypto trader on how he do his trades so you could learn it for yourself. In that way you are like hitting two birds with one stone. Also, with that, you could lessen the possibility of your expenses once you have already learn how to trade by yourself. My other concern is that you are seeking a crypto trader in this forum wherein personalities are anonymous. No one would entrust their funds into a stranger for sure basically because it involves money. Better to learn trading for yourself so that you won't need hiring a crypto trader anymore.

Why can't you just learn to trade by yourself? Let's say that someone had accepted your offer, there are no guarantees that his or her trades are profitable. You know why? It's because the market itself is so freaking unpredictable. I mean seriously, it's unpredictable. You are only guaranteed with losing.

It's better to learn how to trade by yourself rather than outsourcing it to someone else. There are many platforms out there that you can learn trading such as Youtube, NewsCrypto, Udemy, etc.

And of course, you are posting it on the wrong section. Much better if you post this on the Services section.

Most new traders want to know how to make a quick profit without any effort. Although they cannot be called traders, because an original trader knows how the market works. It is very risky to buy and trade such signals. Like you said, big traders and whales don't have time to sell their signals to others. None of the people involved in Signal Sales' group are professional traders. They are members of the Pump and Dump Group. So if you buy signals from them, the results will be come out very bad.

You are correct when you say that it doesn't really make sense but people are like that, they keep thinking about ways of making money which don't make sense, just a few hours ago I saw a thread about a newbie asking a top trader or a whale to give them signals and that they will pay good money to do so, but it's obvious that a top trader or a whale do not really have the time to do that and even if they did they are going to be incredibly expensive, but people blinded by their greed do not stop to think if their ideas make sense and that is why they never progress as traders or investors.

You might be open to scammers if you are not careful. They will even give you fake trading history just to make them look like a good trader just to hire them but you will be surprised nothing good will come out of it. Crypto trading is a very complex process that no one can be able to predict. Although you have already given a condition. I will advise you to learn trading for yourself. We have so many resourceful materials here and on the internet that can help you to start trading. You can use demo crypto account such https://demo.hitbtc.com/ to start

I doubt that anyone will agree to such conditions. They make little sense.

If I am good at trading and can give high-quality signals, then I will either do it myself, or I myself will look for a signal group manager.
Why do I need an intermediary who will not do anything, but only use my labor, creating on the basis of it those things that I can create myself.

But this is the problem with telegram group, they do pump and dump and few members benefit from the hyping. If there is a real signal group, it is a good thing to follow such. I have once joined such group but at the end, it didn't profit me.

Well the OP asked to know everything about the strategy from anyone interested in contacting him and if your strategy is a profitable one then this is privileged information, just look at how many seminars are out there teaching people how to trade charging thousands of dollars to each person and they do not really reveal anything, a successful strategy could be worth millions so while we do not know the intentions of the OP make no mistake information can be many times more valuable than money.

For profitable traders, as said in the old days: Sky is the limit. Why should I prove my success and show the proven track record? If I ever feel to feed my ego as the pro trader just making a few tweets with proofs will be enough. BTW, this is how crypto shill account plays the role of a pro trader in social media nowadays. The magic is persistence and having a trader mindset, the signal or mirror trading is the alt version of being successful. The original method was the same years ago and till today not many things have changed in the investing/trading world. I doubt stealing someone's success will be easy with luring the money-related stuff in open public forums, the experienced trader can identify the colleague from 100 meters if you got the point. Just my 2 cents. 

So you are running a business with a crypto signal group, I'm confuse because you said you need to understand how to trade.


If you like a tutor, you don't pay this, you need someone to help you but you have to pay first, that's what I know because these people would not waste their time for a performance based, even if you subscribe in a signal group, there's a premium that you have to pay before you get a signal.


This is what I'm talking, learn first, read online then hire someone to educate you, at least know the basics first.

I think running a crypto signal group has been done by many people, and it is quite profitable. Especially crypto signal group premium,
which is indeed the owner get income from its members. I don't want to help you if you want to create a crypto signal group that harms
the members. Like the pump and dump group, and I will also help you without me having to make a deposit first.

I think it's better to manage our funds. We can immediately perform the order when there is market movement. There is no delay and eliminating worries so that it can reduce stress. Unless if the funds planted on a real transparent and legit platform, as you mentioned.

A deceiver is fortunate if he only goes to prison. People who got deceived are now becoming more aggressive and begin taking lives.

The difference between this and hedge funds and so forth where people give money so they could do some stock trading on their behalf is the fact that if you do not follow through with bitcoin funds, you are probably not going to be jailed unless you did it for a ton of bitcoin that worths upwards of 100 million dollars or more.

So, if you can find that much money to invest, I am pretty sure you are going to be legit, like start a company and pay taxes and all that, if you do not do that and if you lose peoples money, you will be jailed no doubt, they will definitely find you. In my national section here on bitcointalk people did that a ton, and in the end it became a very bad taste thing since everyone lost people's money, nobody continued to profit all the time.

Not really sure how it's a scam though, what could he be stealing other than people's time?

To be honest, not all signals groups are disguised pump groups (though the vast majority are).

Not sure how you could pay a person for performance if it's not artificially looking to inflate a coin's value and secure a profit by dumping on members of the "signal" group though.

Its not that complicated but a very basic stuff that already had existed for years where a kind of modus for someone to suggest on making up deposits

before you can make a withdraw.For people who are still into their right minds and doesnt really have that high intensity of greediness will surely suspect and aware of the scamming attempt.

On topic reply where hiring out some profitable traders out there? They wouldnt mind too much because they can earn profit as they like without having
any groups or whatsoever.

The reason for not doing that is simple laziness, why bother to learn how to trade when you can try to pay someone else to do it for you but once we use common sense we will realize that it is almost impossible for the OP to find anyone remotely good, revealing your strategy to anyone especially if it is profitable is a mistake and anyone that can make money in the market is not going to bother with this offer that seems to me like it will end up with someone getting scammed.

We can prevent the volatility of cryptocurrency by learning more about trading, and I think we can use the volatility to make a profit. Besides that, in the crypto market, we have so many choices of the coin to trade, and we might have more than five coins that can help us make a profit. The knowledge for crypto trading and stock market maybe will almost the same, but the analysis will not be the same. Maybe crypto trading will be good to learn before you decide to trade in the stock market.

Oh boy! The modus is quite complicated thus I can say that I couldn't be able to think of such tendency in the very beginning. But well, I'm not too dumb to fall on "deposit now, withdraw later" kind of scheme so most probably I will stop helping him along the way if ever I'm on that situation .

Thanks for the advice dude, I learned something important. You made me realized that there's nothing wrong of helping others vocally, just be careful if you want to put it into actions.

I believe that trading in the stock market is more complex than trading in cryptocurrencies, although in the cryptocurrency market you also need to have a lot of knowledge and a sufficient amount of free time. nevertheless, you can learn to trade cryptocurrency yourself, but for trading on the stock market, it is better to hire your own broker. But you still need to take into account the fact that it is precisely because of the volatility of cryptocurrencies that the market is associated with very high risks.

Actually it's probably even worse than that. Investors get fund managers who have good quality due diligence. Licensed. Actually have a degree or education related to the field, usually works for the bank or some other established fund.

Did you read about the crypto fund that closed down this week? -70% losses. And they raised a LOT of money. Crypto trading's just a very different thing people need to understand this.

Well if there's anything I have learnt in my stay in this space is to never assume things as you think they're because most times they aren't. Have you been contacted by anyone with the storyline of you helping them to withdraw? Funny you might think they're in the worst position as you can easily scam them until you fall into their trap and end up getting scammed. The OP hasn't been active since this post was made, wasn't active for a long time as well before the topic was created probably he's getting his victim contact him on telegram.

Don't be surprised, when he likely give them some criteria
like for them to trade with the exchange he suggested so it'll be easier for him to keep track of the trade. Unknowingly you meant think he meant well not knowing the exchange in suggestion is likely controlled by him which might request for you to make some deposit before you'll be able too withdraw. It might sound funny to you but people still fall prey to this type of scams.

How come? I thought OP wants a crypto trader who work for him. So technically speaking, hist stance in the situation is a victim in the making and not the fraudster because of the fact that he is willing to let other people manipulate his own money. Am I missing something .
Indeed, studying cultivates your mind and body. And the knowledge you get gives you a sense of value as an individual. The wiser you become, the higher self esteem you can achieve. That's why I'm wondering why some are not fond of it, maybe because of laziness or fear of failure? Invalid excuse I think.

The OP is liking spamming or probably wanting to scam some gullible users out here. Spending time in the community, would make you understand the market is no respected of any human and those what she wants without considering if you'll profit or loss. Most individuals i have seen using alternative method in trading hardly make any profit and the funny thing is they don't get any life less either (that's experience to combat other trades when the need arises) since they weren't the one trading but relying on an external body.

The reason we're all advice to learn how to do things ourselves is because it enhances your life style. If you're an investor, investing by yourself it make you develop the been patience characteristics which will not only help you in investing but other areas of life. Same thing can be said about traders, most of them are usually smart as all they do is outsmarting the market. A little bit of patience also and mostly they become focus.

In conclusion, I'm not in support of relying on other to trade on your behalf just as the majority who have contributed to this discussion has highlighted.

Actually it is sad because those newcomers in the trading community are asking where they will find the best signals  best traders out there in order for them to be profitable. I understand what they feel because I also became like that before but I found out that it is wrong and it is better if we will trust our selves and forget other traders and also signals out there. Actually it is true that we should forget on finding signals, we should focus on finding the right trading system that is really fit to us.

That makes sense then but you should still be careful let's say you have a large amount of subscribers to your premium group and you would hire the wrong person giving, giving wrong information it might ruin your business.

Hiring a crypto trader is like finding a fund manager, this kind of strategy is usually do by some investors who want to make investment in cryptocurrencies but they do not have time to trade and it is the reason why they are hiring crypto trader or a fund manager. There is no guarantee to earn money by participating in signal groups or hiring crypto trader. Actually, many people are losing because of and it is the reason why we should only depend on ourselves when we do trading.

Funny but quite true. 
Just learn the system. thats it.




Its better to learn the loopholes of crypto trading than hiring a crypto trader itself. Here a knowledge is on  your own and you can get better positions or you can decide your own money. As a  tip, start on small amount first and practice, this way you gain experience and  hands on  skill of trading which you can apply also on stocks tarding.

I think does who actually go in to take a trading job are those who have lost out in their trade because if they are making money from their trade, they won't like to stress themselves to be trading for someone else. That is what I understand about trading.

Yes. It would be very risky entrusting your funds to someone else because the result of trading might not be the one you're expecting. I suggest do it on your own with your own funds. Start learning with yourself so you will be responsible with the outcome of your trading and not just solely relying on someone else's skills.

So true, But my worries is how do those new traders be like one of those big guys within a shot period of time ?

I doubt that and i dont really believe that much that there are good traders that would contact this one and as said they would rather trade on their own without any hassle nor have any responsibilities
to other people.

Getting up just only some commissions is just not really that too serious matter yet when it comes to money making then he can actually do things on his own without depending into those
subs fees.

So for sure he didnt go back to this thread and doesnt even get on what he do seek.

I think OP wants to hire a trader to provide trading signals to the group that OP has, That's why he's paying depending on the performance. Of course, we don't encourage this kind of method because most of us have bad feedbacks on past trading signal groups.

I think OP hired someone because the account is inactive since the thread has been posted.

Maybe someone already contacted him/her via telegram I guess that is why it didn't show up here, but hiring someone to do a trading signal service is not that attractive, I don't know if there are more people that is availing this kind of services which trading can be learn by our self by searching online, and as you say most of this signal groups are scam and there is no assurance that their signals are correct always they are not fortune tellers.

I wouldn't doubt if many users will going to contact you claiming their "Professional service" you should be careful in dealing with these kind of people specially they could harm your asset or worst they could run away with your money.

I'm not quite sure if there are some really good services that offer but you can study on your own and handle your own asset in that case you are fully responsible with your trades.

OP has never been back after the search, maybe he finds someone who accepts his offer. And I hope he got the right person to do the job for him.

Anyway, he'll be risking a lot to let other people trade instead of doing it by himself. He probably wants to lose his money by this wrong idea. Maybe someone has told him of what to do or that someone has a plan to create a group to scam people.

Not a good idea to hire someone to run a crypto signal group, usually a business like this won't last long. Because it's hard
to hire someone who has good trading skills for you to employ, although there is certainly a high fee to pay. Moreover with
the price of crypto it is volatile difficult to find traders who can always profit every time trading. There are so many problems
that you will face from members signal group that you created. My advice is you better trade by yourself, so you give the signal
to the group members yourself. Financially you can save even more and your trading skills will increase.

Do you think that in 2020 people follow signal groups? I don't think so.
If you are looking for pro crypto trader, it's hard to find because they are busy to trade and making profit. why don't you learn and try your own? it will be helpful for you and there will be no cost for hiring.

yeah thats his motive obviously and no one in thier normal minds will accept this  . if only he said that he is looking for a regular invdividual that will manage the group , that is more believable and many people are going to get interested with it but before that at first i think he is offering his service as a crypto trader due to his title of his thread but thats also sound strange because if he is a skilled trader he can just trade on his own .

This is true and correct, But as much as we can let us trade what we can afford to lose.
And day trading I think is one of the best tools for us to earn crypto or bitcoin. This is what I did
actually for a year now. And it's been very helpful to me honestly speaking.

What I don't understand is what he is looking for exactly, a trader who will do all the work in his group, and he just to harvest profit? Why would some traders accept this, when they can run their own groups, and to charge that and earn from that.
He is not the first newbie that came here with crazy suggestion, it's just fishing, and the fact he just disappeared after creating this topic proves this is just a fishing attempt, if someone hooks up it will be ok for him, if not than nothing. I wouldn't suggest anyone to accept this offer and contact this guy.

What a shocker, the OP wrote the post but hasn't come back to say anything since writing it.  Typical scam move, coming in, making some vague post about making money, then asking to contact them via some other way of communication (typically telegram) other than bitcointalk. Thankfully everyone has seen enough of these around here to know better.

True and  it doesnt make any sense for some trader to  be used by other partnership on where he do let himself to be a tool for them to make money.
Instead he would rather create a group on his own and he can get those fee in full without the help of others or making up some collaboration.
In case of op it seems that he would really  create a group, finding up a trader and just giving out some  percentage on what they can earn in fees
for those who do follow up.

Probably you should move this post to the marketplace section (services). You’ll find many people who would be willing to offer their services to you at an affordable price. Moreover, you can choose from multiple applicants. Although I wouldn’t be too sure if people are up for this job. I have been hearing this for the first time but sounds like some real deal. But, there is a saying that “successful traders don’t reveal their secret” so I don’t know how they will help your channel. Am just kidding am sure you will find some decent trader in the marketplace section.

He probably comes under that category of admin who has the resources and reach among people but doesn’t have the skill set to execute the assigned task. So, in that case its quite fair that he is hiring crypto traders to look after the group.

Although, I agree with your point that the people cannot be left hanging if something goes wrong. So, for such scenario he must have a backup trader ready who can resume the work if such situation is to occur. Anyways,I support your view that it would be quite better if he took the trade course and handled the group himself.

There are some people who really do is make analyze and call a trade.
And probably this guy who is looking for a trader already got a group that already subscribed to him/her, which for the trader guy will not manage to find some subscribers to their signal group.
And if this guys is only looking for trader, then it is much better since there is also some person assigned for the subscribers, how the payment is collected, how the signal is being delivered to subscribers, etc.

Why does a person who understands trading need an intermediary when creating a group of signals?
There is nothing difficult in this, simple broadcasting of signals to a group.

Why does he need you? Will you create a channel in the telegram and give the order when to send signals?
Weird...

Paying up premium just to join up a private signal group? It might work on earlier years but not this time yet people do know that majority
arent really giving out something new.

Its quite brave to post up something like this on where someone do find or seeking up a good trader for making it as a business via means of premium group trading signals.

Do they really believe that someone will really be willing to receiving a paycheck if they can make of on their own?

Looks like OP is setting up a business of crypto-trading signal group via paid subscribers (sort of premium picks etc).

They are hiring someone who can lure people to follow their signals so they need a knowledgeable one.

Even if they found "one", I doubt this signal group will be profitable as the reputation of this kind of a group is really not that good in the world of crypto now.

Lol you got it there. And you can now ask op what he will be doing when another person is doing the suppose analysis (if it is genuine)  . Signal groups are money conscious with fake people around all the time.

Or, you take the glory ...

I would say do not really hire anyone for a signal group, you are giving the keys to someone else and that is not something you should be doing if you ask me. The pay is performance based so you think you will not be screwed but even if he comes in and gives good advice at first and gets paid and then starts to give bad advises you would basically be doing a loss on top of a loss.

I would say try to learn trading by yourself and that way you would be doing much better, instead of giving you the fish, you should learn how to fish, that way you could profit whenever you want wherever you want all the time. Trading is not a 100% guaranteed thing as well, sometimes you will make a profit, sometimes you will lose, it is not always sunshines and rainbows when you are trading.

If you're going to hire a trader you might as well just go to eToro and use their Copy Trader feature. At least you could actually see the traders' past performances, rather than hiring some random person online.

I don't think it's needed to hire someone we don't know, its better to hire someone we know in the group or trained someone, Not all rich people will let their trading money into someone unless it's a real company that are from the same area or will come in the office to see them for themselves. There are trading companies who collect management fees, you might consider hiring from those agencies that are registered and known from doing it, than having it here and will give trouble to you later,there might trained agencies available in your area to test for yourselves.

And then, scammers have their guts to scam people with their huge incentives and offerings. It is quite somehow to say that these newborn traders are mostly become their victims. How it supposed to become a sort of learnings to newcomers of the scamming that is happening before?

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At OP, you are looking for a crypto trader but you are asking someone who can manage a signal group. What is the purpose of creating such a group if you only want people to trade on behalf? I'm not saying that you are a scammer or pretending to be good, but my assessment to you is that, you are planning something questionable. I hope I am wrong but you just have to prove it.

everyday new trader born, ready to send their money to "big guy"

I'm not sure anyone is interested, signals in trading are hard to believe.
I have been out a number of trading and pnd channels

And this isn't an appropriate board for this. You may move this topic into Marketplace for Bitcoin payment and  Marketplace (Altcoins) if you will pay altcoin for this.

However, reply above was right. That is a different thing between traders and signal groups and I think you are looking who expert in trading and do the job for you. This is very risky tho, trusting someone else with your fund isn't good idea.

I'm not sure if you are looking for crypto trader or crypto signal group.

If you can make a good offer, defintely, a lot of people will come to you asking your mercy to become a part of your team. It surely they will hard for it but how could they assure that they will got their payment once done? Are you considering a third party or an escrow to work on this?

Anyway, I understand that such a deal will make privately as you have mentioned. But much more appreciated if everyone could hear about your deal instead, so we can also evaluate if that is fairly enough in both parties.

Why you should have a crypto trader instead of trade on your own? Getting tired to make trade why not use the copy trading like the e-toro it's the same but you do not need to pay other people just to make a trade, also it's not good if you are getting dependent to a person who makes a trade on your if you want to make more money learn with the use of trading there are a lot of online courses out there if you don't want you can use the Google and youtube just to find out a lot of data and gather those to make information to avoid getting loss to your money. Feeling tired? I think there is no easy way to learn trading.

Also, we want to avoid blaming too what if the person you hired makes a mistake and losses a lot of your money the market of the coin are volatile trade at your own risk this is all of my opinions only better to gain knowledge at your own and be an independent trader, hope to look forward to your profit Good luck.

I thought I had already seen everything, but here is another thing that will make people lose money. If you can get that person to run your crypto signal group, do you intend to keep charging the members of the crypto group and you will also tell the members that you are not doing the technical analysis? and let's say that you can have 30 members and those 30 members pay the fee for 30 days and 15 days before the fee for those members ends, do you have no analysis guy, how will you be and how will the members be

I suppose a part of the answer to my questions is here:


I wonder if it would not be better for you to take a trade course and execute your group

Looking for someone to run a crypto signal group.

Pay is performance based. The better you do, the more you earn.

I would need to understand how you trade, so what leverage, how many take-profit targets, frequency of signals etc

Reach out to @SteReoby on Telegram if interested.